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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As Best Buy gears up for its important high-definition TV sales months, a new survey from the No. 1 electronics retailer reveals that almost 90 percent of Americans still don't understand HDTVs - and close to 50 percent underestimate the cost of buying one.
that one paragraph SAYS IT ALL. 90% don't know crap about HD TVs
and that ALONE is why SD isn't going away any time soon...
Cybercowboy
09-24-07, 01:52 PM
I think they mean that 90% of Best Buy employees don't know anything about HDTV's. :lol:
stblake10
09-24-07, 01:56 PM
I am part of the 10% that does, at Best Buy.
I think they mean that 90% of Best Buy employees don't know anything about HDTV's. :lol:
LOL +1
colel83
09-24-07, 02:01 PM
Those are some crazy statistics! I would think with all the HDTV commercials and all the advertising of HD programming that more than 10% of people would know about this stuff! I guess I could see people underestimating the cost of it though, cause it ain't real cheap. :)
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 02:01 PM
With the state of education (spelling and grammar for example) being as bad as is frequently demonstrated on these forums, how would one expect a much more complicated subject like HDTV to be understood by the population in general ?
At any rate, the masses will soon be forced to have HDTVs whether they understand them or not, as manufacturers cease making SD only televisions in the future.
Sirshagg
09-24-07, 02:06 PM
I think they mean that 90% of Best Buy employees don't know anything about HDTV's. :lol:
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So true!
dedalus_00
09-24-07, 02:10 PM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As Best Buy gears up for its important high-definition TV sales months, a new survey from the No. 1 electronics retailer reveals that almost 90 percent of Americans still don't understand HDTVs - and close to 50 percent underestimate the cost of buying one.
that one paragraph SAYS IT ALL. 90% don't know crap about HD TVs
and that ALONE is why SD isn't going away any time soon...
Firstly, this was a study commisioned by Best Buy. It's obvious to me that Best Buy as a general rule underestimates the intellegence of it's customers, so should these results really be that suprising? Their business practices have also contributed to the dropping IQs of their average customers (ie, does anyone who knows much about AV, drop their hard-earned money at Best Buy these days?)...
Also, from further down the article, it states "89 percent of people said they lacked a complete understanding of HDTV technology."
Apparently they were asking if you had a complete understanding of HDTV technology. Who can really state they have a complete understanding of ANYTHING, let alone HDTV.
This was a stupid poll commisioned by a stupid company, that does not give any real insight on ANYTHING.
lwilli201
09-24-07, 02:12 PM
With the state of education (spelling and grammar for example) being as bad as is frequently demonstrated on these forums, how would one expect a much more complicated subject like HDTV to be understood by the population in general ?
At any rate, the masses will soon be forced to have HDTVs whether they understand them or not, as manufacturers cease making SD only televisions in the future.
All TV have been required to be digital capable for some time now. TV do not have to be HD but they have to be digital.
oldfantom
09-24-07, 02:12 PM
With the state of education (spelling and grammar for example) being as bad as is frequently demonstrated on these forums, how would one expect a much more complicated subject like HDTV to be understood by the population in general ?
At any rate, the masses will soon be forced to have HDTVs whether they understand them or not, as manufacturers cease making SD only televisions in the future.
It wasn't that long ago that you could still by B&W TVs. Granted, they where usually the small portables, but still....
4:3 sets will be around for a long time until those 16:9 sets break the $300 mark.
I know a lot of people that simply don't care about HDTV and are satisified with SD picture quality, including analog cable. Out of my entire extended family and the majority of my friends I am the only one with an HD set.
lwilli201
09-24-07, 02:20 PM
With the state of education (spelling and grammar for example) being as bad as is frequently demonstrated on these forums, how would one expect a much more complicated subject like HDTV to be understood by the population in general ?
At any rate, the masses will soon be forced to have HDTVs whether they understand them or not, as manufacturers cease making SD only televisions in the future.
All TV have been required to be digital capable for some time now. TV do not have to be HD but they have to be digital.
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 02:27 PM
Nope, they don't have to be HD, but the way mass manufacturing works, it is going to be cheaper and simpler to make them all HD, if they are going to digital capable at all. When tube technology finally dies altogether, non-HD will be limited to the smallest panel sizes. Hell, even my 7 year old son's 21" LCD\DVD combo unit in his bedroom is HD (720p), with a built in ATSC tuner. It only cost us $300.
All TV have been required to be digital capable for some time now. TV do not have to ge HD but they have to be digital.
cartrivision
09-24-07, 02:37 PM
I really don't care how long the ignorant masses and luddites hang on to their beloved SD sets. Their ignorance doesn't change the fact that soon almost all programming will be originated in HD, and the programs that they watch on their SD sets will be a downconverted version of the HD broadcast, so they will either be paying a satellite or cable company to downconvert it for them, or they will have to buy a set top box that receives the HD program and downconverts it to SD, and soon the SD TV selection at the local Best Buy will be as rare as black and white TVs are today regardless of how many people currently know about HD.
cartrivision
09-24-07, 02:42 PM
It wasn't that long ago that you could still by B&W TVs. Granted, they where usually the small portables, but still....
4:3 sets will be around for a long time until those 16:9 sets break the $300 mark.
HD 16:9 sets have already broken the $250 mark. Sales of 4:3 SD sets will soon be looked back at like the dinosaurs.
Nope, they don't have to be HD, but the way mass manufacturing works, it is going to be cheaper and simpler to make them all HD, if they are going to digital capable at all. When tube technology finally dies altogether, non-HD will be limited to the smallest panel sizes. Hell, even my 7 year old son's 21" LCD\DVD combo unit in his bedroom is HD (720p), with a built in ATSC tuner. It only cost us $300.
Yup, eventually it will cost more to buy an NTSC tv than it's going to buy a TV with a digital tuner.
lwilli201
09-24-07, 02:45 PM
I really don't care how long the ignorant masses and luddites hang on to their beloved SD sets. Their ignorance doesn't change the fact that soon almost all programming will be originated in HD, and the programs that they watch on their SD sets will be a downconverted version of the HD broadcast, so they will either be paying a satellite or cable company to downconvert it for them, or they will have to buy a set top box that receives the HD program and downconverts it to SD, and soon the SD TV selection at the local Best Buy will be as rare as black and white TVs are today regardless of how many people currently know about HD.
As long as there are people that can not afford all the stuff that we can afford, there will be a market for low end tube type digital TV's.
I think they mean that 90% of Best Buy employees don't know anything about HDTV's. :lol:People who do know a lot about HD do not go to BestBuy based on past experiences like this (me included) and the people who do not know about HD are not likely to learn from a BestBuy employee.
I was at BestBuy a couple of weeks ago to look for some DVDs and noticed that all of the exterior windows were covered by HDTV posters and there was a lot of in store HDTV advertisements. Perhaps they are trying to train their employees and pass the information onto the consumers.
lwilli201
09-24-07, 02:49 PM
Yup, eventually it will cost more to buy an NTSC tv than it's going to buy a TV with a digital tuner.
All TV's sold today are required to have a digital tuner.
Q: Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?
cartrivision
09-24-07, 02:51 PM
As long as there are people that can not afford all the stuff that we can afford, there will be a market for low end tube type digital TV's.
The reality is, economies of scale will soon drop the price of HD TVs to what SD tube TVs cost today, and manufacturing and sales of SD TVs will be virtually nonexistent very soon.
As long as there are people that can not afford all the stuff that we can afford, there will be a market for low end tube type digital TV's.Does anyone make them any longer? I read of some manufacturers no longer making them since the low end LCD TVs could be sold for the same price as a CRT TV and cost less to manufacture. I cannot recall seeing any in the last year or so but I have not looked for one either.
hilmar2k
09-24-07, 02:52 PM
Nope, they don't have to be HD, but the way mass manufacturing works, it is going to be cheaper and simpler to make them all HD, if they are going to digital capable at all. When tube technology finally dies altogether, non-HD will be limited to the smallest panel sizes. Hell, even my 7 year old son's 21" LCD\DVD combo unit in his bedroom is HD (720p), with a built in ATSC tuner. It only cost us $300.
Only OTA is switching to digital. Anyone with cable or satellite will not ever need to upgrade their TV's. And the FCC has been working on a cheap receiver (~$50) to prevent people w/o cable or satellite currently from having to replace their TV's.
I do agree, however, that more and more manufacturers and resellers will be focusing more and more on HDTV in the coming months and years.
By the way, how is my grammar and spelling? ;)
cartrivision
09-24-07, 02:52 PM
Q: Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?
Because the letters "USA" on maps are too blurry to be legible on their SD sets.
Hell, even my 7 year old son's 21" LCD\DVD combo unit in his bedroom is HD (720p), with a built in ATSC tuner. It only cost us $300.You got an excellent deal. I was slumming the electronics stores yesterday and saw HD LCDs in the 19" range going for well upwards of $400. Even the 14" SD LCD TV/DVD combo was over $300 and it had a horrible picture.
The cutthroat pricing of the RP units is being taken out on the entry level customers. This reminds me of the old days when color portables cost as much as consoles that were twice the size.
Anyone with cable or satellite will not ever need to upgrade their TV's.And we'll all be using the metric system by 1980. :shrug:
Cable is currently fighting tooth and nail to get rid of analog. At the same time, they don't want to cooperate with Cablecard.
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 02:57 PM
Perhaps we did - it was not a featured set, it was on a bottom shelf, some off-brand. We asked to open it up and connect it for a demo, and it was as good as or better than the pictures being shown on much more expensive sets. We got it at BestBuy :lol: :lol: I figured, for the kids room, I didn't need stunning 1080p and 4ms response times :D
You got an excellent deal. I was slumming the electronics stores yesterday and saw HD LCDs in the 19" range going for well upwards of $400. Even the 14" SD LCD TV/DVD combo was over $300 and it had a horrible picture.
The cutthroat pricing of the RP units is being taken out on the entry level customers. This reminds me of the old days when color portables cost as much as consoles that were twice the size.
You got an excellent deal. I was slumming the electronics stores yesterday and saw HD LCDs in the 19" range going for well upwards of $400. Even the 14" SD LCD TV/DVD combo was over $300 and it had a horrible picture.
The cutthroat pricing of the RP units is being taken out on the entry level customers. This reminds me of the old days when color portables cost as much as consoles that were twice the size.
Funny thing is, at BB, I was able to get an HD LCD 720p 20" w/DVD built in for $329. It's for my daughter, but if you have coupons, BB is sometimes a good place.
cartrivision
09-24-07, 03:01 PM
You got an excellent deal. I was slumming the electronics stores yesterday and saw HD LCDs in the 19" range going for well upwards of $400. Even the 14" SD LCD TV/DVD combo was over $300 and it had a horrible picture.
The cutthroat pricing of the RP units is being taken out on the entry level customers. This reminds me of the old days when color portables cost as much as consoles that were twice the size.
Bestbuy.com currently lists a 19" HD set for $250, although availability is listed as "Backordered: Usually leaves our warehouse within 1-2 weeks".
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 03:09 PM
You are correct in that people will not be forced to replace their TVs. My daughter has an old 36" SD tube in her bedroom, I just convert the signal to 480i in a box for her, and she's quite happy. I ask if she wants an LCD, but she likes her big bright tube better than my son's smaller LCD (and no way am I buying her a 4 figure large screen LCD for her bedroom)
:D your spelling and grammar is better than average. Can you tell what one of my pet peeves is ? Can anyone correct the title of this thread - seeing definitive spelled like that is driving me insane :p
Only OTA is switching to digital. Anyone with cable or satellite will not ever need to upgrade their TV's. And the FCC has been working on a cheap receiver (~$50) to prevent people w/o cable or satellite currently from having to replace their TV's.
I do agree, however, that more and more manufacturers and resellers will be focusing more and more on HDTV in the coming months and years.
By the way, how is my grammar and spelling? ;)
You got an excellent deal. I was slumming the electronics stores yesterday and saw HD LCDs in the 19" range going for well upwards of $400. Even the 14" SD LCD TV/DVD combo was over $300 and it had a horrible picture.
You need to slum a bit further than just the CE big-boxes. Sam's Folly has had 21" 720p models under three bills for at least the last six months, while both Wally and Tarr-ZHAY have 32"/720p models under six. All LCDs, too, not those weird converted-to-picture-tube abominations that Sam's Kids were pushing so hard last Xmas.
It is true that, once you start going below about a 17" LCD, prices start bouncing back up again -- but that's probably reflective of the costs associated with getting all the gear necessary to receive, decode and display HD signals into progressively smaller boxes.
At any rate, the masses will soon be forced to have HDTVs whether they understand them or not, as manufacturers cease making SD only televisions in the future.
And just when might that happen? I have never seen anything that suggests that SD tv's will no longer be manufactured. (Analog NTSC will be, but not SD).
Carl
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 03:26 PM
When tubes go out, SD will go out for all but the smallest screens. The very physics of LCD panels (and plasma) dictate this.
And just when might that happen? I have never seen anything that suggests that SD tv's will no longer be manufactured. (Analog NTSC will be, but not SD).
Carl
djwww98
09-24-07, 03:28 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all. It's easy to forget the mentallity and intelligence of the general population. Go to the nearest Wal-mart, pick a check out line with 10 people in it and it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was only one that could tell you what was actually necessary to watch HD in their home.
I work with a couple of guys who bought big flat screen HD televisions. When I asked them if they were getting HD, they weren't sure. (This was 2 different people, 2 different and nearly identical conversations.) When I asked them if their TV's were HD, they weren't sure. (They were). They both said that movies looked good on them. But they really had no clue about HD after spending thousands of dollars on a big HD TV.
jahgreen
09-24-07, 03:28 PM
Hell, even my 7 year old son's 21" LCD\DVD combo unit in his bedroom is HD (720p), with a built in ATSC tuner. It only cost us $300.
Oy. 7 year olds are now given HDTV/DVDs for their bedrooms?
The apocalypse approaches. :lol:
cartrivision
09-24-07, 03:30 PM
And just when might that happen? I have never seen anything that suggests that SD tv's will no longer be manufactured. (Analog NTSC will be, but not SD).
Carl
I think that you will see an almost nonexistant selection of SD TV sets available in stores by the end of 2009 even though many people will still be watching downconverted SD programming on their old SD sets for years after that. Have you looked at the limited selection of SD sets in your local Best Buy lately.... it's over there in that one aisle over by the walls and walls of HDTVs.
JeffBowser
09-24-07, 03:30 PM
:confused:
Oy. 7 year olds are now given HDTV/DVDs for their bedrooms?
The apocalypse approaches. :lol:
I believe it, none of my family members understand or even really care about HDTV, except me. All my mother knows is that she doesn't like those black bars, she was in awe of my setup though. My sister went and bought an HDTV and hooked it up to an SD E* box. Looks like complete cr*p, said that was the most disappointed they had been after a purchase in a long time.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As Best Buy gears up for its important high-definition TV sales months, a new survey from the No. 1 electronics retailer reveals that almost 90 percent of Americans still don't understand HDTVs - and close to 50 percent underestimate the cost of buying one.
that one paragraph SAYS IT ALL. 90% don't know crap about HD TVs
and that ALONE is why SD isn't going away any time soon...
I think that you will see an almost nonexistant selection of SD TV sets available in stores by the end of 2009 even though many people will still be watching downconverted SD programming on their old SD sets for years after that. Have you looked at the limited selection of SD sets in your local Best Buy lately.... it's over there in that one aisle over by the walls and walls of HDTVs.
I agree, market forces will probably result in most if not all TV sets sold being HD. However the point I was really trying to make is the mandated implementation of digital transmission over the air really has nothing to do with a conversion from SD to HD, yet there are so many people who think they are one and the same.
Interesting personal anecdote. My wife, who would normally fit right smack dab in the middle of the "what's HD" crowd happened to switch on one of our older (SD) TV sets today that she hasn't watched for a couple of months. It's a 32" CRT, and actually has a darned good picture for a 32" SD. But she's been watching our 42" plasma HD mostly. She called me in and asked me what was wrong with the TV, the picture was so "fuzzy":D
Carl
Q: Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?
Would those be U.S. Americans? :lol:
cartrivision
09-24-07, 04:17 PM
I agree, market forces will probably result in most if not all TV sets sold being HD. However the point I was really trying to make is the mandated implementation of digital transmission over the air really has nothing to do with a conversion from SD to HD, yet there are so many people who think they are one and the same.
They are technically separate, but for all practical matters they are closely linked. The forced conversion of all TVs to digital tuners is quickly decreasing the number of non-HD sets being manufactured and sold even though a digital ready TV is not required to be HD ready, and also, all the major networks are broadcasting in HD even though they are not required to.
That alone will get the current "SD only" crowd hungry for HD programming when they buy a new TV and just happen to get a HD one because that’s what’s mostly available and it's as cheap as SD sets were not too long ago. Then some of them will hook their new HD sets to an OTA antenna and compare the HD network broadcasts to the SD versions that they get via satellite or cable, and soon after, many of those people will upgrade their satellite or cable packages to include HD to get all the other cable channels in HD.
msmith198025
10-12-07, 06:58 AM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As Best Buy gears up for its important high-definition TV sales months, a new survey from the No. 1 electronics retailer reveals that almost 90 percent of Americans still don't understand HDTVs - and close to 50 percent underestimate the cost of buying one.
that one paragraph SAYS IT ALL. 90% don't know crap about HD TVs
and that ALONE is why SD isn't going away any time soon...
Which has nothing to do with whether or not they are buying HDTV's. 90% of americans dont understand the inner workings of a computer or a car, yet they are sold every day.
Because the letters "USA" on maps are too blurry to be legible on their SD sets.
Because they arent americans
Does anyone make them any longer? I read of some manufacturers no longer making them since the low end LCD TVs could be sold for the same price as a CRT TV and cost less to manufacture. I cannot recall seeing any in the last year or so but I have not looked for one either.
There's a complete line of cheap CRT (Digital ready) TVs at Wal-Mart from 13" up to about 27 or 32". They are cheap, very cheap, heavy (very heavy), bulky (very bulky). So if someone wants digital but not HD, Wal-Mart offers them starting a little over a hundred bucks up to about 300 for the 27 or 32 (can't recall).
I'm betting they will continue to be carried well past 2009, as the demand will be there. What I'm wondering is where are these "mandated set top boxes"....I haven't seen one yet...the ones that are supposed to be subsidized for easy affordability?
JeffBowser
10-12-07, 08:02 AM
I saw a business article just last week that the set-top boxes are to be subsidized at a rate of two $40 coupons per household. However, the article conveniently left out what the qualifications were, and how to apply for them, so I guess the Feds are still "working on it".
Those cheap sets at WalMart are cheap because they are assembled by 34 cents an hour peasants in a communist country. I won't shop at WalMart at all, that company is the pits. I know from an inside view, as well - I sold them a ton of software a few years back. They were not much better than communist dictators themselves, the way they treat people.
There's a complete line of cheap CRT (Digital ready) TVs at Wal-Mart from 13" up to about 27 or 32". They are cheap, very cheap, heavy (very heavy), bulky (very bulky). So if someone wants digital but not HD, Wal-Mart offers them starting a little over a hundred bucks up to about 300 for the 27 or 32 (can't recall).
I'm betting they will continue to be carried well past 2009, as the demand will be there. What I'm wondering is where are these "mandated set top boxes"....I haven't seen one yet...the ones that are supposed to be subsidized for easy affordability?
Those cheap sets at WalMart are cheap because they are assembled by 34 cents an hour peasants in a communist country. I won't shop at WalMart at all, that company is the pits. I know from an inside view, as well - I sold them a ton of software a few years back. They were not much better than communist dictators themselves, the way they treat people.
:rolleyes:
WHATEVER!
JeffBowser
10-12-07, 12:31 PM
Still wet behind the ears are we ?
:rolleyes:
WHATEVER!
soon almost all programming will be originated in HD.
Sales of 4:3 SD sets will soon be looked back at like the dinosaurs.
I seriously question your use of the word 'soon.'
SD has years of life ahead of it by even the most aggressive schedules.
Even among people who can afford to go out and buy a new TV if they want to, most people do not want dead space on the left and right, so they will want 4x3 screens available until the VAST majority of their prefered programming goes wide, enough to make the catalog of the last 50 years seem less important.
I predict a decade at least before John Q. Public reaches the point where a 4x3 screen in a TV shop would seem odd to them, like a turntable among CD players would be now.
I DO understand HD, and I like video tech more than most people I know, and I still don't own a widescreen TV.
Not sure why it really matters though. The exisitance of SD programming and 4x3 sets doesn't seem to be holding HD back very much. The peaceful coexistance might even be helping.
ApK
(Eagerly awaiting the 1st of the year so I can order my ATSC STB coupon.)
Still wet behind the ears are we ?
No, more like just sick of self-righteous ill-informed political rants on a dbs forum.
As for the coupons, go to dtv.gov. They don't start till the first of the year.
Tom Robertson
10-12-07, 02:18 PM
I saw a business article just last week that the set-top boxes are to be subsidized at a rate of two $40 coupons per household. However, the article conveniently left out what the qualifications were, and how to apply for them, so I guess the Feds are still "working on it".
...
The coupons will only be for converters not new TVs (unless Congress changes the enabling law.) Each household will qualify for two, and yes the Feds are still working on the details. Note, there aren't any converters available in stores just yet. :)
Cheers,
Tom
michaelyork29
10-12-07, 03:00 PM
I think they mean that 90% of Best Buy employees don't know anything about HDTV's. :lol:
:D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :) :)
So true...
msmith198025
10-12-07, 03:05 PM
The coupons will only be for converters not new TVs (unless Congress changes the enabling law.) Each household will qualify for two, and yes the Feds are still working on the details. Note, there aren't any converters available in stores just yet. :)
Cheers,
Tom
+1 .
There has been ALOT of confusion going around about what the Gov. was going to do about this. Dont know where the new tv idea came from though
No, more like just sick of self-righteous ill-informed political rants on a dbs forum..
Exactly. Couldn't of said it better myself.
JeffBowser
10-12-07, 03:37 PM
Yes, that is correct. Not sure about the convertor statement - if all it is is a digital tuner with appropriate outputs for any TV, they are already in stores. If they plan something special, then, I guess they'll need to wait.
The coupons will only be for converters not new TVs (unless Congress changes the enabling law.) Each household will qualify for two, and yes the Feds are still working on the details. Note, there aren't any converters available in stores just yet. :)
Cheers,
Tom
JeffBowser
10-12-07, 03:38 PM
How does my comment to Tunce have anything to do with you ? However, since you have now injected yourself, please, tell me what I am ill-informed about, and cite your source.
No, more like just sick of self-righteous ill-informed political rants on a dbs forum.
As for the coupons, go to dtv.gov. They don't start till the first of the year.
Go find a political forum in which it would be appropriate to do so, and learn when to keep your opinions to yourself. And if you wanted a private conversation with Tunce, why post on a public forum, Sherlock?
cartrivision
10-12-07, 03:51 PM
I seriously question your use of the word 'soon.'
SD has years of life ahead of it by even the most aggressive schedules.
Even among people who can afford to go out and buy a new TV if they want to, most people do not want dead space on the left and right, so they will want 4x3 screens available until the VAST majority of their prefered programming goes wide, enough to make the catalog of the last 50 years seem less important.
I predict a decade at least before John Q. Public reaches the point where a 4x3 screen in a TV shop would seem odd to them, like a turntable among CD players would be now.
I think that you are way off. Within 5 years the availability and selection of 4:3 sets in the local consumer electronics stores will be similar to the selection of turntables today, and that's probably going to happen a lot sooner than 5 years from now.
Similarly, in less than 5 years the vast majority of TV programming will be in 16:9 format whether it's HD or not, and virtually every TV being sold will have a 16:9 screen, and the low end TVs will be 16:9 SD-only sets.
The fact that today you can find smaller size HD TVs starting at around $250 should tell you that there will be virtually no market for SD or 4:3 sets in a few years.
I think that you are way off. Within 5 years the availability and selection of 4:3 sets in the local consumer electronics stores will be similar to the selection of turntables today, and that's probably going to happen a lot sooner than 5 years from now.
Bet you a drink...meet me back here in 5 years. :goodjob:
Tom Robertson
10-12-07, 03:59 PM
Lets play nice, lads and lassies. No more snipes towards one another, but stick to the topic.
Thanks,
Tom
bwaldron
10-12-07, 04:01 PM
Bet you a drink...meet me back here in 5 years. :goodjob:
Is this like EaglePC's bet? Can everybody get in? :D
Tom Robertson
10-12-07, 04:06 PM
Yes, that is correct. Not sure about the convertor statement - if all it is is a digital tuner with appropriate outputs for any TV, they are already in stores. If they plan something special, then, I guess they'll need to wait.
I guess what I'm more expcting is something that is less than $50, has an RF modulated signal output, and in walmart not just BestBuy. :)
Cheers,
Tom
JeffBowser
10-12-07, 04:23 PM
Aye, I see your point. What good is a $40 cert, if you can only go to one store, and the box is $199 retail.
I guess what I'm more expcting is something that is less than $50, has an RF modulated signal output, and in walmart not just BestBuy. :)
Cheers,
Tom
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