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saleen351
10-12-07, 08:53 AM
I know we have VOD which imho is worthless, I have a DVR for a reason, but it's still coming. So once we get VOD and all our channels in HD the question is, what's next??

cnmsales
10-12-07, 09:03 AM
Hopefully MRV or Video streaming via media share.

reweiss
10-12-07, 09:05 AM
I know we have VOD which imho is worthless, I have a DVR for a reason, but it's still coming. So once we get VOD and all our channels in HD the question is, what's next??

BSOD - Brain Scan on Demand. You just think about a show or movie and it will start playing. :grin:

Earl Bonovich
10-12-07, 09:05 AM
:D

OOOHHHH I know... I know...
But other then DoD, Remote Booking, and Video streaming from your home network...

I can't tell you... :D

JeffBowser
10-12-07, 09:08 AM
Forced On\Off timers to get couch potatos to rediscover their families, the great outdoors, and social activities, perhaps.... :lol:

TermiNader
10-12-07, 09:08 AM
I've heard that holograms will be viewable between where you sit and the television set. :)

reweiss
10-12-07, 09:12 AM
:D

OOOHHHH I know... I know...
But other then DoD, Remote Booking, and Video streaming from your home network...

I can't tell you... :D

Earl, you must be ready to bust some days when people ask the questions, you know the answers but cannot talk. I'd go out of what's left of my mind.

Of course if you want to provide hints so that you don't bust completely, we're here for you. :sure:

Earl Bonovich
10-12-07, 09:37 AM
Earl, you must be ready to bust some days when people ask the questions, you know the answers but cannot talk. I'd go out of what's left of my mind.

Of course if you want to provide hints so that you don't bust completely, we're here for you. :sure:

There are days... :D

MikeR
10-12-07, 09:41 AM
:D

OOOHHHH I know... I know...
But other then DoD, Remote Booking, and Video streaming from your home network...

I can't tell you... :D

Let us review

DoD ----Check
Remote Booking ----Check
Video Streaming from your home network......Sweeet!
:D

Greg Alsobrook
10-12-07, 09:43 AM
There are days... :D

tell you what.... if you tell us... we will all pitch in and get you a basket of mini muffins...

man_rob
10-12-07, 09:45 AM
Okay, the video streaming thing has me intrigued. Would this be functionality similar to a Slingbox? Is it streaming only within the home network? Between DVRs?

flipptyfloppity
10-12-07, 09:47 AM
The next thing will be lots of content delivered not over traditional "channels", but instead delivered similar to video podcasts over the internet on a point-to-point basis.

This will allow much more specialized narrowcast content (content that applies to a small group strongly instead of a broad group weakly) to be delivered bandwidth-efficiently to PVR owners.

TiVo is already doing this with Rocketboom, for example.

Basically, you will just subscribe to the shows you want by show name instead of by channel, and it will show up on your PVR on a regular basis. In this way, it is very similar in use to current methods of recording broadcast shows even though it isn't the same technology behind it.

MikeR
10-12-07, 09:48 AM
Okay, the video streaming thing has me intrigued. Would this be functionality similar to a Slingbox? Is it streaming only within the home network? Between DVRs?

Initially, I would think it would encompass sharing media between each DVR on the home network. I'll take some of that please. A good start would be the ability to manage your cummalative playlist from any of the units on the network, then build from there....with the ability to stream media to any DVR...

kevinwalton
10-12-07, 09:49 AM
I think the next logical thing would be to share the media from one HR20 to another and be able to burn shows onto DVD to take with you.

That would be my next guess of what is next.

Right Earl?

man_rob
10-12-07, 09:53 AM
I think the next logical thing would be to share the media from one HR20 to another and be able to burn shows onto DVD to take with you.

That would be my next guess of what is next.

Right Earl?

I would prefer the ability to transfer recorded programs files to portable devices, such as phones, ipods, etc.

medic4jc7
10-12-07, 09:56 AM
Next will be,,,
DBS Talk Channel in Full HD:lol:

reweiss
10-12-07, 11:15 AM
How about storing shows on both the internal as well as an external eSATA drive instead of one or the other?

With all of the new HD channels and shows taking up more space, I bet that would make a lot of people happy. :hurah: :grin: :lol: :) :D

DCSholtis
10-12-07, 11:33 AM
Next will be,,,
DBS Talk Channel in Full HD:lol:

The Earl Chat monthly in HD on the 101. :D

B-Town Blues
10-12-07, 11:34 AM
How about 3-D HD. Wasn't one of the NBA playoff games last season broadcast with 3-D cameras and views had to wear those goofy Red / Blue glasses to see the effect.

michaelyork29
10-12-07, 12:54 PM
Let us review
DoD ----Check


Wait a sec...the check doesn't count for those of us waiting for a stable NR... :)

M3 Pete
10-12-07, 04:05 PM
Star Trek's holodeck ... I wish.

If there was such a thing, who would date "real" people? :lol:

gslater
10-12-07, 04:21 PM
If you're talking streaming media around the network, then why not to any device on the network. If I had a DVR (which I don't), I'd like the ability to stream the recorded content to a PC to watch at my desk, or to a non-DVR receiver elsewhere in my home. If I miss the game, I can record it, and then instead of sitting in front of the TV in the family room, I could work around my house and have it streamed to any compatible display device in the room I'm at.

morgantown
10-12-07, 04:25 PM
The Earl Chat monthly in HD on the 101. :D

Now that would be cool. Do it at 3AM so we could just record it and the masses can remain blissfully uninformed :).

I wish DIRECTV would make more of an effort to include its customer base in the details that they can release about planning and future changes. Although it would probably be better to just let an unrelated third party (i.e., Earl or an Earl-like party) be the conduit so the corporation has some distance from the commentary.

As to the OP's question: I'd vote for MRV, more network capabilities, a more reasonably priced portable option that can get HD, and a formal program to offer more advantages to long term customers (ability to get new features / equipment prior to the full release).

If they can't deliver on all that, I'll just take the new HD and be happy :D.

n3ntj
10-12-07, 09:27 PM
I know we have VOD which imho is worthless, I have a DVR for a reason, but it's still coming. So once we get VOD and all our channels in HD the question is, what's next??

'Higher' Definition.

Davenlr
10-12-07, 09:39 PM
I'd go for an option to dump a HD recording directly to an external blue ray dvd burner.

And as stupid as this may sound to most, I would like to see a copy of firefox web browser added to the hr20.

And allowing the Hr20 to play mpeg2 compliant videos directly off a network shared drive without having to use an external computer or wmp11.

TreyS
10-13-07, 08:14 AM
Smell-o-vision. :D

mazter
10-13-07, 08:19 AM
DLB:lol:

cs19
10-13-07, 11:49 AM
This isn't a new idea... but I would still like to see some type of a "To Go" ability. Preferably requiring only some software on your own laptop, and not any new hardware.

A plane flight would be much more enjoyable if I could open up my laptop and catch up on all the Colbert Reports from the week I had recorded on the DVR and then transfered to my laptop.

Ed Campbell
10-13-07, 03:45 PM
I have already streamed 1080p on my home network. The source just isn't satellite - it's via cable broadband on the internet. It's one of the reasons - albeit unneeded - I advanced to the other half of the family for a new TV set. Which should be here in about a week-and-a-half.

A couple of geek shows we watch are available in 1080p online, now. Erratic scheduling means I usually record them rather than stream them over 80211.n - but, I have done it as an experiment.

I still don't have all the links in the chain up to true 1080p even after the set arrives; but, I don't expect it to be far away.

ActiveHDdave
10-13-07, 03:58 PM
I think 3D TV from D* will be next.

In fact it is already here!
I heard some TV maker is going make some kind of 3D TVs for sale next year.


Here is an article I found

3-D TV That Actually Works
Seán Captain Email 08.22.06 | 2:00 AM

I entered a conference room in Manhattan and a woman on the TV tossed a handful of rose petals out of the screen, where they floated in the air before my eyes.

At least, that's what I saw. In truth, the image resided on a perfectly flat, 42-inch LCD screen. But the 3-D illusion was fully believable, and I didn't have to wear a dorky set of polarizing glasses.

A new line of 3-D televisions by Philips uses the familiar trick of sending slightly different images to the left and right eyes -- mimicking our stereoscopic view of the real world. But where old-fashioned 3-D movies rely on the special glasses to block images meant for the other eye, Philips' WOWvx technology places tiny lenses over each of the millions of red, green and blue sub pixels that make up an LCD or plasma screen. The lenses cause each sub pixel to project light at one of nine angles fanning out in front of the display.

A processor in the TV generates nine slightly different views corresponding to the different angles. From almost any location, a viewer catches a different image in each eye.

Providing so many views is key to the dramatic results. Sharp Electronics makes an LCD display that projects just two views, requiring an audience to sit perfectly still in front of the screen. With the Philips technology, viewers can move around without losing much of the effect -- one set of left/right views slips into another, with just a slight double-vision effect in the transitions.

The TV can also display standard two-dimensional images, close to HD quality.

The uncanny 3-D illusion stops people in their tracks, as it's meant to. Philips is initially selling the 42-inch screens -- which debuted at the Society for Information Displays conference in June -- to retailers who will create 3-D ads to grab the attention of passing shoppers.

Casinos are interesting in the screens -- the mesmerizing effects may help patrons part with more of their money. Holland Casino just announced plans to install the screens throughout its locations in the Netherlands.

Finding content for home users is more of a challenge.

One nearly ready-made source of content is modern video games, which actually generate three-dimensional objects internally, then flatten the images into 2-D representations for standard monitors. Philips has developed hardware and software that can extract the original depth information from the game engine and use it to create 3-D images on a WOWvx display.

In New York, the company demonstrated the technique with the first-person shooter Call of Duty. It looked almost perfect, except for a little shimmering around the edges of objects, which Philips says will be fixed in the coming months.

The company also has plans for video. The ultimate hope is that studios will produce more 3-D content, like the recent 3-D version of Sony Pictures' Monster House that screened in 162 U.S. theaters. But Philips is developing software to convert standard video to 3-D by analyzing movement to determine the original depth position of people and objects.

A standard laptop running Philips' software was able to convert the DVD The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King into 3-D in real time and display it on Philips's new 20-inch "3D 4YOU" LCD monitor -- a retail-kiosk implementation of the 3-D screen.

The result looked vaguely 3-D, though it was marred by some blurriness and double images.

"I think for consumers this is simply not good enough," said Philips executive Rob de Vogel. "But the progress in the past year is amazing." He expects the company to show a better version of the conversion software to the public in the coming months -- possibly at the next Consumer Electronics Show in January 2007.

Nick
10-13-07, 04:37 PM
I kinda like the AUTO-OFF feature, a mandatory 3-4 hour block during dinner hour
and prime time when all TVs go off and cannot be switched on - except for my own
TVs, of course. :grin:

You people need to get out and cut the grass, sit down to dinner together, and play
Charades afterward. None of the above applies to me, of course. :shrug:

kevinwmsn
10-14-07, 09:35 AM
Don't forget about Channels I Receive Feature and scanning for Over the Air Channels. I hope the next big thing is Multi Room Viewing.

DarkAudit
10-14-07, 11:06 AM
Where's my holodeck? :D

Carl Spock
10-14-07, 06:35 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if the next revolution made all this technology easy to use and possible for the Average Joe to hook up?

Naw, it will never happen.

Jaysv
10-14-07, 08:41 PM
Video streaming from your home network does not equal Video streaming to your home network...ie think of the current Media Share.

SatNoob
10-14-07, 08:43 PM
I heard they're going to give us all a discount and apologize for all the major cable/sat companies overcharging us and adding on extra fee's and changing our packages pretty much on a monthly basis.

Oh I made that up.

mikey6719
10-14-07, 08:51 PM
There are days... :D

Hey Earl do you have a stupid overweight brother, HOT ex-wife and bushy mustache? No? Wrong Earl. Sorry back to the subject matter.......

CJTE
10-14-07, 10:28 PM
Don't forget about Channels I Receive Feature and scanning for Over the Air Channels. I hope the next big thing is Multi Room Viewing.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/2598-directv-multi-room-satellite-receiver.html

?

lman
10-15-07, 03:48 AM
DLB:lol:

Yeah, that's something that should have already been there.

dblake15
10-15-07, 05:51 AM
What about software to make the HR20 into a slingbox as well?? That would be cool. You don;t even need it through the HR20, D* can have it and you login to their site and chose the show from the TV listings that you would like to watch. Gotta love technology. I think that would be pretty easy to do.

mhking
10-15-07, 06:08 AM
Telepresence?

CJTE
10-15-07, 09:31 AM
Super HD...
Then Super Duper HD.
Then Ultra HD..

:lol:

OconRecon
10-15-07, 10:16 AM
UHDV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

"The new format with a resolution of 7,680 × 4,320 pixels is four times as wide and four times as high (for a total of 16 times the pixel resolution) as existing HDTV"

jasonblair
10-15-07, 03:38 PM
Star Trek's holodeck ... I wish.

If there was such a thing, who would date "real" people? :lol: I assume you mean Vivid and Wicked would be the #1 and #2 holodeck companies in the universe?