View Full Version : SEC Network........just maybe!!!
quickfire
10-14-07, 11:05 AM
I typed in SEC Network into my browser....to see if any channel was in the works or was already availible.........and this is what I found --------->>> click link
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu6yBSxJHomwASZZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE4Y2lpdDR yBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0gwMjZfNzUEb ANXUzE-/SIG=133uvdfiu/EXP=1192467713/**http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2007-06-09-tv-network_N.htm
Needless to say I WANT THIS CHANNEL if it ever becomes availible!!!!!!
sjso395
10-14-07, 11:13 AM
Count me in also
Bowtaz3
10-14-07, 11:49 AM
I would LOVE this
Benny Blades
10-14-07, 12:28 PM
I would LOVE this
I would like to see this channel except for watching those god awful SEC officials.....they are horrible!
hornetsfan30m
10-14-07, 05:41 PM
I typed in SEC Network into my browser....to see if any channel was in the works or was already availible.........and this is what I found --------->>> click link
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu6yBSxJHomwASZZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE4Y2lpdDR yBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0gwMjZfNzUEb ANXUzE-/SIG=133uvdfiu/EXP=1192467713/**http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2007-06-09-tv-network_N.htm
Needless to say I WANT THIS CHANNEL if it ever becomes availible!!!!!!
this wont happen
it is called Cox's sports tv
heisman
10-14-07, 06:29 PM
An SEC network would be a tough sell based on demographics and too many hands in their pot--Lincoln, Cox, etc. Close to half the teams in the conference reside in some of the poorest states in the US. Also, if the SEC can get out of their contract with Lincoln, and Comcast wins the rights to the channel, what do you guys think the chances are D* ever has SECN is their lineup?
MTN (Comcast) 1 million homes in over a year
BTN (Fox) 40 million homes in 3 months.
I would pray for Fox all day and twice on Sunday if you want your local conference sports network to succeed.
kenpac89
10-14-07, 07:25 PM
As a Maryland alum, I would like to see an ACC Channel.
They really need an Ivy League network.
We already have enough pro football on TV.
JDubbs413
10-14-07, 07:39 PM
I would bet money that like Big Ten Network, DirecTV will be the first carrier for it.
heisman
10-14-07, 08:49 PM
I would bet money that like Big Ten Network, DirecTV will be the first carrier for it.
How much do you have? You will lose all of it.
flipptyfloppity
10-14-07, 09:04 PM
I have a crazy idea. Maybe there could be a single channel that airs all kinds of sports instead of wasting the bandwidth 24/7 and peoples monthly money for each conference in each sport?
(Yes, that includes Big Ten Network, even though I went to a Big Ten school)
DawgLink
10-14-07, 09:09 PM
How much do you have? You will lose all of it.
I think he would win it all. DirecTV would jump at the chance to acquire this channel.
SEC Network would be a huge hit across a good portion of the country. You say the demographics would be poor, I think it would be extremely good.
TriggerDeems
10-14-07, 09:17 PM
I love college football, and I think that the BTN is great for two reasons:
1) I get to see more Big Ten football
2) I get to see more football from other conferences that are now aired instead of the Big Ten Game that would have been on, but was instead on BTN.
So, I say, bring on a SEC channel too.
flipptyfloppity
10-14-07, 10:20 PM
I love college football, and I think that the BTN is great for two reasons:
1) I get to see more Big Ten football
2) I get to see more football from other conferences that are now aired instead of the Big Ten Game that would have been on, but was instead on BTN.
So, I say, bring on a SEC channel too.
If a game is aired on Big Ten Network, it is not aired locally on the over-the-air networks, although dorm residents get Big Ten Network.
Additional choices for free would be one thing. But Big Ten Network isn't actually free, and it takes away choices that people had before.
Snoofie
10-14-07, 11:17 PM
You can bet that all major conferences are looking very closely at Big Ten Network. If they can see profit in it, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC network or the Big East network or the ACC network. A few smaller conferences might even join together and start a combined network. I haven't watched the Big Ten Network for more than a few minutes, but I would be glued to an SEC network to check out the competition for my Cats.
MIKE0616
10-14-07, 11:31 PM
You can bet that all major conferences are looking very closely at Big Ten Network. If they can see profit in it, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC network or the Big East network or the ACC network. A few smaller conferences might even join together and start a combined network. I haven't watched the Big Ten Network for more than a few minutes, but I would be glued to an SEC network to check out the competition for my Cats.
You can rest assured that all the conferences are looking at it already. All of us in the south are not a bunch of rubes and some of us have very nice incomes. :lol:
As an alum of Big East, ACC, and SEC schools (did the levels all at different schools), I would love to see it as my wife already has her BTN covering OSU and IU.
ESPN (aka Disney) has made a fortune off these schools, as has CBS, so I don't really see much of a way that these new conference based networks will not come about.
BTW, Jefferson Pilot sux. lol
VandyCWG
10-14-07, 11:31 PM
I believe that an SEC channel would work...
BigTen has done pretty good.....and the SEC would be in control of its own ad money....
Come on, money talks....CBS Sports paid BIG money a few years ago to get one SEC game a week, so the money is there....
turbo_oasis
10-15-07, 05:07 AM
As an SEC guy and an SEC alum I would love to see the greatest conference known to mankind have its own network and take all of those games off Lincoln Financial Sports (old JP Sports). Heck if the Big 11 can have a TV network, why not the conference where football is a religion and they treat Saturday like the sabbath day
LameLefty
10-15-07, 07:48 AM
As another southerner with a good income, and as an alum of not just one but two different SEC schools (BS from the real UT and JD from Vanderbilt), I think this would be an awesome channel. Sign me up on the bandwagon.
LMUBill
10-15-07, 07:54 AM
You can bet that all major conferences are looking very closely at Big Ten Network. If they can see profit in it, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC network or the Big East network or the ACC network. A few smaller conferences might even join together and start a combined network. I haven't watched the Big Ten Network for more than a few minutes, but I would be glued to an SEC network to check out the competition for my Cats.
Especially since due to the Big Blue Network and FSN you would probably never see the cats on a SEC network in football or basketball.
heisman
10-15-07, 07:55 AM
I think he would win it all. DirecTV would jump at the chance to acquire this channel.
SEC Network would be a huge hit across a good portion of the country. You say the demographics would be poor, I think it would be extremely good.
I suggest checking their suitors. If Comcast/Cox/Lincoln own the channel, I doubt it would be on D* first.
I would love to have an SEC channel (especially if it's in HD!!).
Close to half the teams in the conference reside in some of the poorest states in the US
I don't believe that would be a huge deal. People in the South love their teams and support them with as much fervor as those who follow Big 10 schools. And they actually go to the games wearing shoes! ;) Seriously, the markets may not be high-dollar but the fan base is extremely strong and that's important to sponsors. CBS recognized that.
I heard grumblings about a possible SEC network if the BTN succeeded and as a Tenn fan who no longers lives in the great state (or the south anymore :() I would love to see this network succeed so that I can see more SEC games. SEC has as big or bigger fan base than Big 11 - so I think it could work (even though parts of the south are poor - I'm sure a similar % has cable/satellite compared to Big Ten country)
I would be disappointed if comcast (or any major cable/satellite provider) was a majority owner as they could make it difficult/expensive for D* (or other services) to carry it...
JeffreyT
10-15-07, 08:04 AM
I'm in. I would love a SEC network channel.
DawgLink
10-15-07, 01:12 PM
I suggest checking their suitors. If Comcast/Cox/Lincoln own the channel, I doubt it would be on D* first.
I have and all contracts with ESPN/ESPN2/LF/CBS all end after 2009 and the SEC'S FSN contracts end in 2008. The SEC would never sell their rights to a Cable contractor nor would they sell it to JUST DirecTV or Dish. The SEC Network would follow the Big 10 Network and go national.
The argument about "poor states"...I still don't see what those has to do with absolutely anything. Most of the Cable Operators throughout the South do just fine financially and Cox down here would probably jump at any chance to grab it. The SEC presense goes quite strongly across a lot of this country. The initial talks that the SEC had with several providers (from the old USAToday article) stated that the response was very good from several operators.
tuff bob
10-15-07, 01:17 PM
I have and all contracts with ESPN/ESPN2/LF/CBS all end after 2009 and the SEC'S FSN contracts end in 2008. The SEC would never sell their rights to a Cable contractor nor would they sell it to JUST DirecTV or Dish. The SEC Network would follow the Big 10 Network and go national.
The SEC Network would probably learn from the mistakes of the Big Ten network. You should see all of the Comcast subscribers defend Comcast in the BTN carriage battle.
DawgLink
10-15-07, 01:24 PM
True.
heisman
10-15-07, 02:51 PM
I have and all contracts with ESPN/ESPN2/LF/CBS all end after 2009 and the SEC'S FSN contracts end in 2008. The SEC would never sell their rights to a Cable contractor nor would they sell it to JUST DirecTV or Dish. The SEC Network would follow the Big 10 Network and go national.
The argument about "poor states"...I still don't see what those has to do with absolutely anything. Most of the Cable Operators throughout the South do just fine financially and Cox down here would probably jump at any chance to grab it. The SEC presense goes quite strongly across a lot of this country. The initial talks that the SEC had with several providers (from the old USAToday article) stated that the response was very good from several operators.
You're misunderstanding, either me, or the situation at hand. Going "national" has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Of course, they are going "national." BTN is produced by Fox who owns 49% of the channel. The reason Comcast does not carry it, is because they were burned by BTN as they wanted to own and produce the channel. The SEC would have to give ownership to Lincoln if they want to go in 2008, and Comcast (with its cable partners) is SECN's biggest suitor to own and produce SECN. If they win the rights to own and produce SECN, you still think it would be on D* before Comcast???
heisman
10-15-07, 02:53 PM
The SEC Network would probably learn from the mistakes of the Big Ten network. You should see all of the Comcast subscribers defend Comcast in the BTN carriage battle.
I hang out at all the tOSU forums and I would say that less than 10% blame BTN over their greedy cable companies. Especially after WOW, RCN, and Insight came aboard.
tonyd79
10-15-07, 03:06 PM
The SEC and the Pac-10 are no brainers. A Big 12 network would also succeed. Not as sure about the Big East or any others.
The SEC has national attention in football and basketball. The Pac-10, the west coast alone would support it enough (time zone differences would be tough for it to do well with live sports in the East but replayed games would get more attention for the conference than it gets now).
The only real losers are the RSNs.
I would love more of them. The Big Ten Network is very well done and I find (even being a Big Ten alum) that I am paying even more attention to the Big Ten because of it.
MIKE0616
10-16-07, 06:01 AM
I hang out at all the tOSU forums and I would say that less than 10% blame BTN over their greedy cable companies. Especially after WOW, RCN, and Insight came aboard.
Which is kind of funny, if you think about it, as Insight is a ******* step-child of Comcrap. Comcrap is selling their 50% later this year (so they say) to a stand-alone Insight, but without their OK on the deal, BTN would have never been picked up on the "Insight Cable System."
I heard grumblings about a possible SEC network if the BTN succeeded and as a Tenn fan who no longers lives in the great state (or the south anymore :() I would love to see this network succeed so that I can see more SEC games. SEC has as big or bigger fan base than Big 11 - so I think it could work (even though parts of the south are poor - I'm sure a similar % has cable/satellite compared to Big Ten country)
I would be disappointed if comcast (or any major cable/satellite provider) was a majority owner as they could make it difficult/expensive for D* (or other services) to carry it...
We sub to all the RSNs and the college football package and get to see most if not all Tennessee games and many other SEC matchups. Heck, 90% of why we sub to football stuff is Tenn games as my wife is a RABID UT fan.
LMUBill
10-16-07, 07:59 AM
The SEC and the Pac-10 are no brainers. A Big 12 network would also succeed. Not as sure about the Big East or any others.
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The only real losers are the RSNs.
There already is a Big East network..... it's called ESPN. Who do you think was the driving force behind the forming of the Big East to begin with?
As for the RSN's they can find other programming. There are a lot of smaller D-1 schools and a lot of D-II's that would love the airtime and have decent-sized fan bases. That's not even counting the pro sports they could carry....
Stuart Sweet
10-16-07, 10:09 AM
Why would you want a channel about the Securities and Exchange Commission?
Why would you want a channel about the Securities and Exchange Commission?
Somebody's in a good mood today!
LMUBill
10-16-07, 11:55 AM
Why would you want a channel about the Securities and Exchange Commission?
The same reason they wanted a channel about a supposedly academically strong conference that can't count the number of members they have? :lol:
badgerdave
10-16-07, 01:01 PM
I heard grumblings about a possible SEC network if the BTN succeeded and as a Tenn fan who no longers lives in the great state (or the south anymore :() I would love to see this network succeed so that I can see more SEC games. SEC has as big or bigger fan base than Big 11 - so I think it could work (even though parts of the south are poor - I'm sure a similar % has cable/satellite compared to Big Ten country)
I would be disappointed if comcast (or any major cable/satellite provider) was a majority owner as they could make it difficult/expensive for D* (or other services) to carry it...
No it doesn't have a bigger fan base, that's why the Big Ten launched first. Every B10 school save Iowa and Northwestern has an enrollment above 38,000 putting them all in the top 16 public univerities by size. The only SEC school in that group is Florida.
Alabama has about 23,000 students, Mississippi and Arkansas about 17,000 and Mississipi State about 14,000. The Big Ten has the most graduates in the country, so from a purely demographic standpoint they made the most sense.
heisman
10-16-07, 01:16 PM
The same reason they wanted a channel about a supposedly academically strong conference that can't count the number of members they have? :lol:
I'll let you in on a little secret. The conference has had 11 members since 1950, and 12 since 1990. So, they haven't been able to count for a lot longer than most people think.
heisman
10-16-07, 01:18 PM
No it doesn't have a bigger fan base, that's why the Big Ten launched first...
Actually, MTN was first. BTN, however, will actually succeed. ;)
No it doesn't have a bigger fan base, that's why the Big Ten launched first. Every B10 school save Iowa and Northwestern has an enrollment above 38,000 putting them all in the top 16 public univerities by size. The only SEC school in that group is Florida.
Alabama has about 23,000 students, Mississippi and Arkansas about 17,000 and Mississipi State about 14,000. The Big Ten has the most graduates in the country, so from a purely demographic standpoint they made the most sense.
I don't know whether the demographics make sense or not, but I'm pretty sure that the number of current students or almuni isn't very relevant. Notre Dame is, by Bowl-Division football standards, a small university with a small number of alumni, yet they have a huge national following and the TV deals to match.
As a transplanted Ohioan who has lived south of I-10 for most of the past 20 years, I have to say that the level of passion for college football down here is astounding. I gotta think an SEC network could be a money maker.
projectorguru
10-16-07, 01:36 PM
it would be hard to justify the SEC channel, cuz nobody watches the SEC
I'll let you in on a little secret. The conference has had 11 members since 1950, and 12 since 1990. So, they haven't been able to count for a lot longer than most people think.
Huh? Are you talking about the Big 10?
University of Chicago, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern , Purdue, and Wisconsin were the originals in 1895 (7). Indiana and Iowa joined in 1899 (9). Ohio State joined in 1912 (10). Chicago dropped out in 1946 (9). Michigan State joined in 1949 (10). Penn State joined in 1990 (11). So out of 113 years it's been 7 teams for 4 years, 9 teams for 16 years, 11 teams for 18 years, 10 teams for 75 years, and never 12 teams.
heisman
10-16-07, 01:53 PM
The Big Ten is an academic conference defined by more than sports. University of Chicago is an original and current member.
gobucks100
10-16-07, 02:11 PM
If a game is aired on Big Ten Network, it is not aired locally on the over-the-air networks, although dorm residents get Big Ten Network.
Additional choices for free would be one thing. But Big Ten Network isn't actually free, and it takes away choices that people had before.
Looks like you have been drinking some of that Comcast Kool Aid.
IMO the BTN has been a huge success. Did not have to buy Gameplan this year (except OSU Purdue Night Game). All of the games on BTN are HD (and all should be available in HD on D* but thats another discussion.) The Gameplan channels always had sub SD quality. So bad the letters in the score bug were constantly pixelated. The SD versions of BTN network games have been better than Gameplan. All of the BTN games last year were SD ESPN Plus channels. When watching ESPN now, all of the updates on SEC games on Lincoln are always in SD. My D* bill did not go up directly due to the adding of BTN. It actually went down with out the $109 Gameplan charge.
True the games are no longer available in local markets off air, but I do not know anyone that does not have either cable or Satelite coverage today. Cant get ESPN off air either.
BTN is a great deal, just need to dump Compcrap or Time Warner.
I hope you guys get your SEC network. It is worth it.
An SEC network would be great. A couple times a year (including this week
against Vandy, though at least it's a home game in Real Definition), Carolina
plays on either PPV or Lincoln Financial, both of which suck when it comes
to video quality... bad SD... ugh.
Having those games hit the SEC Network instead in HD would be great! I just
hope they can keep the stupid cable companies around here like Comcast/Charter
and TWC out of the mix since I have DirecTV.
badgerdave
10-16-07, 02:34 PM
The Big Ten is an academic conference defined by more than sports. University of Chicago is an original and current member.
Not sure you can really count CIC membership as being part of the "Big Ten".
gobucks100
10-16-07, 02:35 PM
The SEC Network would probably learn from the mistakes of the Big Ten network. You should see all of the Comcast subscribers defend Comcast in the BTN carriage battle.
I believe the reason Comcast and Time Warner have not added the BTN is less about money and more to do about competition. The BTN wants to be on the analog channel so users dont need a set top box to see. Most of the guys who have agreed have newer technology. The cable guys with the older networks do not have the bandwidth to compete with D* and E* in HD offerings. They want to get channels off of the analog space as they can broadcast more digital channels in the same space the analog channel is taking.
It has been stated that the BTN is asking 2/3 of what Comcast charges for it own sports channels (which are available in most places on analog). It is more convenient for them to blame the cost of BTN than for them to admit they dont have the capacity to add the BTN while they are busy building new systems to only send channels users are requesting vs sending all the channels down the line like they do now.
JMHO
LameLefty
10-16-07, 02:55 PM
No it doesn't have a bigger fan base, that's why the Big Ten launched first. Every B10 school save Iowa and Northwestern has an enrollment above 38,000 putting them all in the top 16 public univerities by size. The only SEC school in that group is Florida.
Alabama has about 23,000 students, Mississippi and Arkansas about 17,000 and Mississipi State about 14,000. The Big Ten has the most graduates in the country, so from a purely demographic standpoint they made the most sense.
Just FYI, don't forget undergrad my alma mater: Tennessee. UT has a student population of 26,400 and 300,000 alumna (plus all the rednecks who are fans :D ;) ). It actually used to be bit higher but they made a conscious decision about ten years ago to keep it around 25,000 +/-.
it would be hard to justify the SEC channel, cuz nobody watches the SEC
Ratings don't bear that out.
ESPN won the prime-time cable ratings the next-to-last week of September due in large part to the Georgia/Alabama game they televised on 9/22.
CBS should be happy with the SEC viewership. The game between LSU and Florida a few weeks ago won it's time slot with a 5.7 share according to Nielsen. And the KY/LSU game on 10/13 drew a 4.4 share the following week. ABC, by contrast, drew only a 3.5 share on 10/13 by showing games that featured USC and Penn State. (http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2007_10_15_archive.html)
Just for reference, the ALCS is averaging a 5.3 rating (pretty low considering that huge Boston market). Game 2 of the NLCS drew only a 2.2 rating.
DawgLink
10-16-07, 03:07 PM
No it doesn't have a bigger fan base, that's why the Big Ten launched first. Every B10 school save Iowa and Northwestern has an enrollment above 38,000 putting them all in the top 16 public univerities by size. The only SEC school in that group is Florida.
Alabama has about 23,000 students, Mississippi and Arkansas about 17,000 and Mississipi State about 14,000. The Big Ten has the most graduates in the country, so from a purely demographic standpoint they made the most sense.
Huh? Who cares? The Big 10 Network started first because they came up with the idea first and had the right people push the right buttons to get it rolling. Kudos to them, they got the ball rolling.
With that said, I am not sure why anyone would even try to argue about which conference has "more fans" or "more excitment" because to each his own.
You will find ACC, Pac-10, BigXII, Big10, and SEC fans swearing that their conference has the best fans, most support, etc...
As a homer SEC fan, I don't even think it is close that anyone touches the SEC fan base wise but you know what? I admit that I am bias and I could be wrong.
The Big Ten is an academic conference defined by more than sports. University of Chicago is an original and current member.
Funny then that the Big Ten's website says they left in '46. And that UofC plays Division III basketball (and probably football though I'm too lazy to look that up).
heisman
10-16-07, 05:46 PM
Funny then that the Big Ten's website says they left in '46. And that UofC plays Division III basketball (and probably football though I'm too lazy to look that up).
That's why I said it has nothing to do with sports. It has to do with the academic Big Ten which includes the biggest and best library network in the world.
heisman
10-16-07, 05:52 PM
Huh? Who cares? The Big 10 Network started first because they came up with the idea first and had the right people push the right buttons to get it rolling. Kudos to them, they got the ball rolling.
I will repeat for the second time in this thread, the Big Ten didn't come up with anything original. BTN is a piggybacked idea from MTN, which not only got the ball rolling, but BTN execs have openly stated it's where they got their idea. It is also the reason I said I would wager that SECN would not be on D* first, because the same company that produces and owns MTN is SECN's biggest suitor--Comcast. I don't thing MTN is even available on a single non-Comcast provider at this point.
That's why I said it has nothing to do with sports. It has to do with the academic Big Ten which includes the biggest and best library network in the world.
Jeez, give it up. That's not what you said, and even if it was it's wrong. The "Academic Big Ten" is a nickname for the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (and which BadgerDave pointed out previously). U. Chicago is part of that, yes, but it has nothing to do with the Big Ten sports conference and this thread is about sports conferences and their affiliated TV networks.
mx6bfast
10-16-07, 08:43 PM
it would be hard to justify the SEC channel, cuz nobody watches the SEC
Weekly Saturday afternoon on CBS, ESPN and ESPN2 primetime games. Naaa, no ones watching. :sure:
ARKDTVfan
10-16-07, 08:55 PM
it would be hard to justify the SEC channel, cuz nobody watches the SEC
right!!! :rolleyes:
keep enjoying those 11 am central kickoffs :lol: we'll gladly keep the primetime slots :D
heisman
10-16-07, 09:37 PM
Jeez, give it up. That's not what you said, and even if it was it's wrong. The "Academic Big Ten" is a nickname for the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (and which BadgerDave pointed out previously). U. Chicago is part of that, yes, but it has nothing to do with the Big Ten sports conference and this thread is about sports conferences and their affiliated TV networks.
The thread is about SECN, which if they follow in BTN's footsteps will be a channel that also promotes academic interests. They have tons of academic campus programming throughout the day.
I do believe University of Chicago is as much affiliated with the Big Ten as much as I believe Ntre Ame is affiliated with the Big East.
According to the Big Ten conference, "The University of Chicago was a co-founder of the conference and still maintains affiliation through the Committee on Institutional Cooperation."
I consider any member participating in one aspect of that conference to be a member. If you define it by all activities/sports, then the Big Ten has far less than ten members, because they don't participate equally outside of the revenue producing sports.
heisman
10-16-07, 09:41 PM
Weekly Saturday afternoon on CBS, ESPN and ESPN2 primetime games. Naaa, no ones watching. :sure:
right!!! :rolleyes:
keep enjoying those 11 am central kickoffs :lol: we'll gladly keep the primetime slots :D
I think he was looking for a reaction, why oblige?
The Big Ten plays in 3 time slots almost every week, 12:00, 3:30, and 8:00.
LMUBill
10-16-07, 09:44 PM
Just FYI, don't forget undergrad my alma mater: Tennessee. UT has a student population of 26,400 and 300,000 alumna (plus all the rednecks who are fans :D ;) ). It actually used to be bit higher but they made a conscious decision about ten years ago to keep it around 25,000 +/-.
Actually it's around 30,000 but 5,000 or so are trapped in UT Parking Lot Hell somewhere on or around campus. :lol:
projectorguru
10-17-07, 05:48 AM
right!!! :rolleyes:
keep enjoying those 11 am central kickoffs :lol: we'll gladly keep the primetime slots :D
GEEZE! I was kidding!:hurah:
The thread is about SECN, which if they follow in BTN's footsteps will be a channel that also promotes academic interests. They have tons of academic campus programming throughout the day.
Tons? I see about an hour and a half of academic programming per day for the remainder of the month of October on the BTN website. None of it that I see is for the UofC.
I do believe University of Chicago is as much affiliated with the Big Ten as much as I believe Ntre Ame is affiliated with the Big East.
Notre Dame plays basketball and many other sports in the Big East. Chicago plays no sports in the Big Ten. How you would equate those is beyond me (and any other reasonable person, I think). For crying out loud, Chicago is not even in the same NCAA division.
According to the Big Ten conference, "The University of Chicago was a co-founder of the conference and still maintains affiliation through the Committee on Institutional Cooperation."
The CIC is not the Big Ten. Chicago is affiliated with Big Ten member schools through the CIC, but is not affiliated with the conference. There's a not too subtle distinction there.
I consider any member participating in one aspect of that conference to be a member. If you define it by all activities/sports, then the Big Ten has far less than ten members, because they don't participate equally outside of the revenue producing sports.
While you can consider it whatever you want, the conference itself disagrees with your assessment of its membership. From the Big Ten's official website (http://bigten.cstv.com/school-bio/big10-school-bio.html): The Big Ten Conference is an association of 11 world-class universities...
This has gotten really silly and I am stupider for having participated in it; I'll stop now.
Kapeman
10-17-07, 07:40 AM
I would love to see this as well, as long as Lincoln Financial has NOTHING to do with it.
They have abysmal broadcast and production values!
LameLefty
10-17-07, 07:46 AM
Actually it's around 30,000 but 5,000 or so are trapped in UT Parking Lot Hell somewhere on or around campus. :lol:
I'm glad to see nothing much has changed since I graduated 17+ years ago . . . :grin:
(Actually, it used to be a lot worse - a lot of those fancy new parking garages didn't even exist then. I lived on campus and couldn't keep a car there until my junior year when I lived in Andy Holt and could park in the lot/garage behind the building near the tennis stadium).
heisman
10-17-07, 08:14 AM
I would love to see this as well, as long as Lincoln Financial has NOTHING to do with it.
They have abysmal broadcast and production values!
If they want to launch the network in 2008, Lincoln will have ownership. If they wait until 2009, all bets are off.
heisman
10-17-07, 08:24 AM
While you can consider it whatever you want, the conference itself disagrees with your assessment of its membership. From the Big Ten's official website (http://bigten.cstv.com/school-bio/big10-school-bio.html): The Big Ten Conference is an association of 11 world-class universities...
This has gotten really silly and I am stupider for having participated in it; I'll stop now.
That is from their "athletics" website. Answer me this, if MSU joined the conference in 1950, but not athletics until 1953, and Penn State joined the conference in 1990, but not athletics until 1993, what do you think they are talking about?
That is from their "athletics" website. Answer me this, if MSU joined the conference in 1950, but not athletics until 1953, and Penn State joined the conference in 1990, but not athletics until 1993, what do you think they are talking about?
Please point us to their "academics" website.
ARKDTVfan
10-17-07, 12:30 PM
GEEZE! I was kidding!:hurah:
OH ok, I was having a bad day yesterday and my mood was not the greatest,so I was kind of jumpy
Tigerman73
10-17-07, 12:40 PM
I believe the SEC contracts w/ CBS and the like are up after next year 08-09. Once that happens they will be free to do what they like. I would hope they would work a deal w/ FOX for the marquee game and some double headers and stay w/ ESPN for the 2nd game and move the rest inhouse to a SEC Network. CBS does us no favors, they don't pimp the SEC like ABC/ESPN pimp the Big 10 and USC...LOL That's all they talk about too. I know that Slive is looking at it but he's considering options with Lincoln Financial which might possibly be the worst broadcast in the history of bad TV. Dump them ASAP!!
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