More receivers, not enough outputs. Help.

[chuckyHDDTV]

I have a Zinwell WB68 with all eight outputs occupied by DVRs. I need 2 more outputs to install 2 D11 receivers. I have a spare WB68 as well. Could I use my spare WB68 to add more outputs? If so, what needs to be done to achieve this? Or if not, what could I do?

[harsh]

Could I use my spare WB68 to add more outputs?http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=100826&highlight=WB68+splitters

[F1 Fan]

I have a Zinwell WB68 with all eight outputs occupied by DVRs. I need 2 more outputs to install 2 D11 receivers. I have a spare WB68 as well. Could I use my spare WB68 to add more outputs? If so, what needs to be done to achieve this? Or if not, what could I do?

Yes you can daisy chain the two.

Take your four lines from the dish to the first wb68 inputs. Then take 4 lines from the first wb68 outputs to the 4 inputs of the second wb68. Use the 8 outputs from the second and 4 outputs from the first to give a max of 12 outputs.

[paulman182]

Yes you can daisy chain the two.
Take your four lines from the dish to the first wb68 inputs. Then take 4 lines from the first wb68 outputs to the 4 inputs of the second wb68. Use the 8 outputs from the second and 4 outputs from the first to give a max of 12 outputs.

I don't doubt your sincerity, but are you sure this will work and give all channels at all outputs? I have not seen this before and it sure would help me out!

[F1 Fan]

I don't doubt your sincerity, but are you sure this will work and give all channels at all outputs? I have not seen this before and it sure would help me out!

100% sure it will work.

The only thing I should mention is that it is better to use all outputs of the 1st wb68 then the outputs from the second as this helps with dish switching.

So 4 inputs from the dish to first wb68 then 4 outputs from that to four inputs of second wb68. the remaining 4 outputs of first wb68 to go to receivers THEN use any or all of the 8 outputs from the second wb68 (doesnt matter if you have some unused ones on the 2nd wb68 but dont have any spare on the first).

[chuckyHDDTV]

Ok, got it. Thanks. Now does it matter to which MS I connect my 2 HR20s to?

[carl6]

Because both multiswitches are non-powered, the general recommendation is to not cascade them, but rather to run them in parallel. That will also give you 16 outputs rather than 12.

If you run them in parallel, use high frequency splitters that are dual port power passing, as both WB68's will have to pass voltage through to the dish.

One potential risk with cascading is the dc power drop you get through both switches. If your coax runs are on the long side, that can become an issue.

Carl

[chuckyHDDTV]

I just read up on that from another post. So use 4 dual port power passing splitters to supply the signals to my 2 WB68s (giving me 16 outputs). This setup sounds more stable than cascading. From what I read, cascading is a hit and miss and is not recommanded. Any splitter recommendations? Thanks everyone for your input.

[Lord Vader]

If you don't mind spending the money, the easiest thing to do is get the WB616 multiswitch. It has 16 outputs and is powered.

It lists for around $125, but you can often find new ones on ebay for $50-$75 or so. I got a new one for $49 from there.

To see what this looks like, check it out here:

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?prod=WB616

Remember, you can get it elsewhere for less.

[lukep10]

It's not an approved way to set up your system, you could have transponders drop out this way, and you can run into more issues trouble shooting your setup if there is ever an issue. The wb6X16 from zinwell is the better way to go.

[lukep10]

I just read up on that from another post. So use 4 dual port power passing splitters to supply the signals to my 2 WB68s (giving me 16 outputs). This setup sounds more stable than cascading. From what I read, cascading is a hit and miss and is not recommanded. Any splitter recommendations? Thanks everyone for your input.

This is better than the cascading, but you can still see channel dropout if you have any long runs. If you do go this route, High Freq Power Passive splitters that have at minumum a 50 - 2250 Mhz range are the way to go. Solid Signal sells the PV23302 and I've always had great success with them. Although, this is not the DTV approved method.

[chuckyHDDTV]

Well, I like the idea of putting my other WB68 into good use and not have it sit around wasting away.

Carl, would a 5-3000Mhz power passing splitter do the trick? I see alot of splitters that go up to 2150Mhz only. What is considered high frequency?

[lukep10]

Well, I like the idea of putting my other WB68 into good use and not have it sit around wasting away.

Carl, would a 5-3000Mhz power passing splitter do the trick? I see alot of splitters that go up to 2150Mhz only. What is considered high frequency?



the actual signal runs from 250 - 2250Mhz however High Freq generally refers to up to 3Ghz and down to 5 Mhz

[techrep]

You have 2 WB68's so, a signal locker will take care of the posible voltage problems and give you 16 outputs.

http://www.solidsignal.com/manuals/Sheet_HRPID1422_11.pdf

[CJTE]

After asking many of the same questions myself, here's what I've determined.

WB68's are cascadable. You can run 4 lines from the dish to the first WB68, then 4 lines from the first WB68 to the second WB68. However, in the owners manual it says they (the WB68's) are not, and it is not recommended.
Running them in parrallel with power passing splitters seems to be a much more commonly 'approved' idea. So long as your power passing splitters can handle the frequency.
Just be careful to make sure you wire the multiswitches to the splitters correctly. 1+1, 2+2, 3+3, 4+4.

If you're worried about signal strength, look into signal lockers (Sonara is thrown around alot).
Another option, which I actually am in the process of going with, is getting a WB6x16 multiswitch. They can be found for relatively 1/2 the price an installer may charge you at solidsignal.com