Single Wire Hookup for HR20-DVR

[jn185000]

I know there must be some kind of device that can be used at the point of the DVR duel tuner to use one wire and and provides 2 wire hookup for duel tuners. Like some type or kind of switch. To be more clear, 1 satellite cable > into a device to get 2 satellite cables for the duel tuner on a DVR.

Thanks

Gary....

[F1 Fan]

I know there must be some kind of device that can be used at the point of the DVR duel tuner to use one wire and and provides 2 wire hookup for duel tuners. Like some type or kind of switch. To be more clear, 1 satellite cable > into a device to get 2 satellite cables for the duel tuner on a DVR.

Thanks

Gary....

There is. It is called Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM) and is in field trials at present. It is being selectively rolled out nationwide and we hope to have it available soon.

There are lots of threads about SWM on here.

[veryoldschool]

I know there must be some kind of device that can be used at the point of the DVR duel tuner to use one wire and and provides 2 wire hookup for duel tuners. Like some type or kind of switch. To be more clear, 1 satellite cable > into a device to get 2 satellite cables for the duel tuner on a DVR.

Thanks

Gary....
"Not at this time".
Currently a multi-switch is needed to run two coax feeds to both tuners.
"There will be" something called SWM, that will do that, but it's still in field testing.

[jn185000]

Thanks, too many acronyms to keep track of.

[beer_geek]

Can't the OP just put a multiswitch between the wall and 2 ports on the DVR?

[veryoldschool]

Can't the OP just put a multiswitch between the wall and 2 ports on the DVR?
If there were FOUR coax feeds from the wall, then yes.
It takes four coax connection from the dish to carry all of the channels.

[jn185000]

I just browsed the info regarding SWM's on this site, what a lot of information just to split out a single lousy wire. I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated. I guess the Kanutin valve and the whatchimacallit are not perfected yet!

[Radio Enginerd]

I just browsed the info regarding SWM's on this site, what a lot of information just to split out a single lousy wire. I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated. I guess the Kanutin valve and the whatchimacallit are not perfected yet!Gary,

As a field tester I'll speak to your comment.

It's not complicated at all. Just like any multi switch it has FOUR inputs that need to be connected to the Dish and 2 SWM outputs. Each output can be ran to a SWM capable receiver directly AND/OR to an ordinary splitter to run to multiple receivers. There is also 2 legacy ports for use with older (non SWM) recievers and/or DVR's.

You're seeing a lot of information because field testers like to post information. It's what we do best! :) The 5ch (5 tuner) SWM has generated a lot of positive feedback and very few issues have been reported.

[veryoldschool]

I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated.
A multi-switch is simple. Four feeds are switched to individual outputs.
The SWM is a "pre-tuner", where is uses the same four feeds, but then selects only one transponder [requested by each tuner] and converts it to a new frequency for each tuner.
The "end result" is quite simple, but "how it does it" isn't [compared to the multi-switch].

[glennb]

I just browsed the info regarding SWM's on this site, what a lot of information just to split out a single lousy wire. I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated. I guess the Kanutin valve and the whatchimacallit are not perfected yet!

If you simply cannot believe it has to be some complicated maybe you should design one on your own.:lol:

[F1 Fan]

I just browsed the info regarding SWM's on this site, what a lot of information just to split out a single lousy wire. I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated. I guess the Kanutin valve and the whatchimacallit are not perfected yet!

The idea is simple but the implementation isnt. The dish is pointing to many satellites and each channel is on a specific transponder on a specific satellite. So as you change channels not only are you instructing the receiver to retune but your multiswitch and the multiswitch in the dish are also being told to select a different transponder on a different satellite. So that signal has to be sent UP the wire not just signals down from the dish.

I am going to assume (maybe incorrectly) that you have a single wire there now and want to use both tuners? You can either wait it out for a few more months until SWM is released or run a second cable. The easiest way to do this is to get a 2core rg6 cable. Then attach them (I prefer to use connectors than tape) to the existing cable you have in the wall. Then pull the existing cable back up the wall (either attic or basement) and it will pull the new dual cable with it (helps to have someone feed it through for you) and then connect it up. You then have the 2 cables in place ( I also opted to swap out the wall plate too for a dual output one.

Took me 30 minutes to do a 40ft run to the bedroom.

Of course this isnt possible for everyone but it is for most as long as you have access to your existing run and the equipment (the rg6, connectors and tools I bought from Lowes and other places).

[bobnielsen]

Complicated? Lets see -- it allows each tuner to independently be able to select one of five satellites, one of two polarizations for each satellite and one of as many as 32 transponder frequencies. It does this for as many as eight tuners simultaneously, without using unlimited bandwidth (i.e., compatible with RG6 cable and commercially-available splitters). Oh yes, it needs to be somewhat cost-effective as well. If there is a simple way to accomplish all that, I don't know what it is.

[beer_geek]

If there were FOUR coax feeds from the wall, then yes.
It takes four coax connection from the dish to carry all of the channels.

Thanks for the clarification

[dmurphy]

Complicated? Lets see -- it allows each tuner to independently be able to select one of five satellites, one of two polarizations for each satellite and one of as many as 32 transponder frequencies. It does this for as many as eight tuners simultaneously, without using unlimited bandwidth (i.e., compatible with RG6 cable and commercially-available splitters). Oh yes, it needs to be somewhat cost-effective as well. If there is a simple way to accomplish all that, I don't know what it is.

To be even clearer - it's 5 satellite "orbital slots", with 11 actual physical satellites in the sky!

FAQ Entry (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=942518&postcount=16) on satellite dishes.

[dms1]

I just browsed the info regarding SWM's on this site, what a lot of information just to split out a single lousy wire. I simply cannot believe it has to be that complicated. I guess the Kanutin valve and the whatchimacallit are not perfected yet!
Look at patent US 2004/0060065 A1 if you want to get an idea of just how involved the SWM design is.

[jn185000]

My point was, can the SWM be plugged in behind my receiver making one (1) cable in to 2 cables to feed 2 tuners, that all I wanted to know. One (1) into two (2) - but evidently you cannot buy these SWM's so I will need to run a second line.
Thanks...

[carl6]

No, the SWM cannot turn one line into two. What it does is turn four lines into one.

Carl