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wjmacnaughton
12-31-07, 11:08 AM
I am looking to put an MFH2 into one of my buildings and lease it out to a
DirecTV vendor. Can anyone tell me what the bill of materials would be for an
MFH2. The connection from the head end to the telco closets will be one or
more single mode fibers. There is one head end and fourteen telco closets, each serving twenty units.

doctor j
12-31-07, 11:27 AM
Contact Pacemso or PDI-Sat or North American Cable for a design request and bill of materials quote.
Anything more here is just speculation.

Doctor j

Earl Bonovich
12-31-07, 12:02 PM
Anything more here is just speculation.


Not necessarily...

We have a handfull of certified MFH-2 installers that are participating in this forum... as well as DirecTV themselves monitoring the forum.

The $$$ aspects, that will depend on the vendors you ultimately get them from.

But for as what is needed...

doctor j
12-31-07, 12:22 PM
Earl;
I'll grant you what you say.
I am certified. As you know not my day job.

The OP needs to be way more specific than posting here can really allow. I don't believe anyone other than those I posted can actually provide him the equipment and they all will give him a design request with bill of materials and a price quote if he fills out the several page request.

Just saying that without the full design request a quick summary of materials won't be very helpful.

Doctor j

doctor j
12-31-07, 12:35 PM
A very general overview is here:

http://www.multicominc.com/active/information/technical_data/MFH2/mfh2_info_and_toc.html

Here is a post from CES last year with primary focus MFH-1 but a good explaination of the options :

http://www.foxcom.com/satlight/Design%20for%20Garden%20Style%20MDU-Feb%2022%202006.pdf

Here is a list of the MFH2 equipment available :

http://www.pdisat.com/mfh2.html

Doctor j

Earl Bonovich
12-31-07, 12:39 PM
Earl;
I'll grant you what you say.
I am certified. As you know not my day job.

The OP needs to be way more specific than posting here can really allow. I don't believe anyone other than those I posted can actually provide him the equipment and they all will give him a design request with bill of materials and a price quote if he fills out the several page request.

Just saying that without the full design request a quick summary of materials won't be very helpful.

Doctor j


True....

But ball-park estimates, before going through the whole process of a design request.... could help.

AntAltMike
12-31-07, 03:02 PM
I will be surprised if this installation is a candidate for fiber. Probably four RG-11 trunklines for the satellite, with one or two TV trunklines for off-air and franchised cable servicing each of the 14 distribution nodes will do the trick.

Will this system need to fully support 100% of the units? If so, then you might need 54, six SWM capable chassis (three in each closet) even if two of the SWMs SWMs in each closet service two residential units each.

You're looking at about $60,000 in SWM devices if you want to pre-build it for 100% service at the prices that have been paid by the commercial dealers for the hardware that has been made available. Add on trunklines, amplifiers and splitters, as well as installation labor and this job will eat up nearly all of $100,000.

If not, then you probably want to have one chassis in each closet with a convenient stash of SWMs, as well as some high frequency splitters. DIrecTV presently requires approved MDU systems to be able to allow immediate connection of 40% of all residential units at each floor or node, but that contract has not been revised to be applicable to a multisat system. At this point, I don't even know if it is better, architecturally and econimically, to have MFH-1 alongside MFH-2, as I don't know how many residents would be satisfied with Ku only programming.

Realistically, any commercial MDU service company that is capable of servicing this system will probably insist on designing and installing it or not be interested in bothering with it. At some point next year, DirecTV and its hardware providers will probably make some kind of hardware incentive program available to its MDU dealers that will not be available to you, and at that time, someone will offer to take on the whole headeache for you for less money that it would cost to build this yourself.