What to do with an old H10?

[Mike Huss]

So we're cleaning out the basement storage area today and I came across an old H10 and an old RCA POS SD receiver as well. What in the heck do I do with these things? I don't feel right just throwing them in the landfill. Does anyone like to tinker with these old receivers?

[mcbeevee]

So we're cleaning out the basement storage area today and I came across an old H10 and an old RCA POS SD receiver as well. What in the heck do I do with these things? I don't feel right just throwing them in the landfill. Does anyone like to tinker with these old receivers?
You might find a buyer for the H10 on ebay, but since the new mpeg4 channels came out, there is very little demand for them. The RCA needs to be tossed, imo.

:)

[litzdog911]

Best bet is eBay. But don't expect much.

[curt8403]

So we're cleaning out the basement storage area today and I came across an old H10 and an old RCA POS SD receiver as well. What in the heck do I do with these things? I don't feel right just throwing them in the landfill. Does anyone like to tinker with these old receivers?


I say take them to a place that recycles electronics. that way they will be disposed of properly. Neither is really any good anymore:)

[Ext 721]

It's still a very nice standard-def receiver....if your TV has anything better than an antenna port for connections.

[hdfan01]

I have 2 still in use. I use them in my RV. The OTA feature is nice. Put one in your workshop or garage. I've been able to find spots for a lot of my old receivers around the house. $4.95/mo..........

[Tonedeaf]

I have 2 still in use. I use them in my RV. The OTA feature is nice. Put one in your workshop or garage. I've been able to find spots for a lot of my old receivers around the house. $4.95/mo..........

Or $0.00 for just OTA usage. :D

[Mike Huss]

Thanks for all the ideas everyone. I got a PM from someone about using Craigslist as well, I might try that first. We've had good luck getting rid of stuff there for a fair price.

If I don't get any takers locally does anyone know how to find an electronics recycler? Closest thing I can find is the local landfill wants $10 for computers. Nothing like charging someone who's trying to do the right thing. :mad:

[Stuart Sweet]

If you donate them to your local Salvation Army then you are at least rid of them.

[Mike Huss]

The Salvation Army takes them? Wow....never thought of them. I did think of Goodwill but I don't think they take that kind of stuff?

[JLucPicard]

Just a question from someone close to the Salvation Army - do they really do anything with them in terms of providing service to the needy, or is this just a way to junk them without having to pay for it?

I'm aware of some of the Thrift Stores where people dump their stuff, then the Thrift Store has to pay fees at the landfill to dump them.

If they can use them, then go for it. If it's just a place to dump them where you don't have to pay for it, realize that someone winds up paying for their disposal.

[Stuart Sweet]

I'm not discussing the ethical implications of dumping your old electronics with someone else who then has the burden of paying for their disposal. It may well be unethical depending on your point of view. However, at this point the Salvation Army will accept these items, and this acceptance carries with it their responsibility for proper disposal if they are unable to accept them.

If you don't think it's ethical to do, don't do it.

[JLucPicard]

Fair enough. Then why not just stick it in your trash bag along with all the other household trash and let the garbage man toss it in the back of his truck?

[Stuart Sweet]

If that is legal in your municipality, and ethical to your way of thinking, then do so.

[JLucPicard]

Me personally? I take my old stuff to the recycling center and pay the piper. It is, after all, MY old stuff.

[Mike Huss]

The discussion between you two reflects the problem I'm having with this. I don't want to just dump them in the landfill. I'm sure there are some nasty metals in the circuit boards. However, I don't want to PAY to get rid of them either. That's just asinine. I pay tons of money every year in taxes to my municipality to haul away my garbage, it's insane that I should have to pay more on top of that to get rid of something that needs to be broken down for scrap. I understand the reasoning behind charged to recycle things that need to be broken down, but I still don't think it's right, not with how much I'm already paying in taxes to the waste removal company.

[JeffBowser]

I think a lot of disposal concern with electronics is overblown. Once a solid state electronic device is manufactured, the thing is fairly inert and stable - toxic chemicals leaching into the environment is a tiny concern. Most, if not all, of the problem is during manufacturing, or even during a recycling process where the device is broken down into reusable materials. In a world where raw or nearly raw sewage is being pumped into our waters both onshore and off, is a shiny metal box the appropriate place to put our concern and limited resources ?

[Draconis]

The problem is that it all adds up. One diaper is no cause for alarm, 1,000,000 of them start becoming a problem.

So the nutshell is, sell, dispose, or recycle it. They are not really good for anything any more.

Of you are looking for a place to recycle it do a search on Earth911.

http://earth911.org/

[JeffBowser]

My point is, we have limited resources to spend, in both time and money. I feel we should concentrate at the source, not at the end of the line.

[sheureka]

You might check with a local highschool tech department - I got rid of a computer that way - they were really happy to get something they could tear apart. - sheureka

[Thaedron]

The discussion between you two reflects the problem I'm having with this. I don't want to just dump them in the landfill. I'm sure there are some nasty metals in the circuit boards. However, I don't want to PAY to get rid of them either. That's just asinine. I pay tons of money every year in taxes to my municipality to haul away my garbage, it's insane that I should have to pay more on top of that to get rid of something that needs to be broken down for scrap. I understand the reasoning behind charged to recycle things that need to be broken down, but I still don't think it's right, not with how much I'm already paying in taxes to the waste removal company.

Have you looked into city or county recycling centers? Local to the Twin Cities, Hennepin county where I live accepts a variety of hazardous materials some for a fee, some at no charge. They have limits per household to the number of some devices, but I dropped off a couple of old electronics devices and several half-empty gallons of paint this fall and it didn't cost me a dime.

I'd say eBay is the best route if there isn't a free recycling center available and you're concerned with burdening someone else with the responsible disposal of your trash.

[JLucPicard]

My "toss it in the trash" response was, admittedly, idiotic as there are laws against that, as Stuart pointed out. I don't recommend that.

I think the closest we get to free is if the municipality has a "recycle day" or something where they will take that kind of stuff. Recently a company involved in the recycling end of the electronics thing (in conjunction with the Mall of America) had set up a three-day 'free electronics recycling' event. They expected 1 million pounds of equipment (30 truck loads) over the three days. They shut it down at noon on the second day because of overwhelming turnout. They wound up with 50 truckloads shutting down half-way through the event.

Just another reason you're not likely to find too many free outlets for this type of stuff.

[Mike Huss]

The problem is that it all adds up. One diaper is no cause for alarm, 1,000,000 of them start becoming a problem.

So the nutshell is, sell, dispose, or recycle it. They are not really good for anything any more.

Of you are looking for a place to recycle it do a search on Earth911.

http://earth911.org/

Good call! I knew there was a computer recycler around here somewhere but I couldn't find them until I saw that website. They have a drop box, they collect for free for residential people, and they take all consumer electronics! :)

[jefbal99]

This reminds me that I need to snag an SD receiver for my guest bedroom. Currently the TV in there is not hooked up to anything. Would be a nice thing to have when company is staying over.

[Mike Huss]

This reminds me that I need to snag an SD receiver for my guest bedroom. Currently the TV in there is not hooked up to anything. Would be a nice thing to have when company is staying over.

I'd offer the H10 to ya for the cost of shipping but you can probably get a D11 for free from D*....

[Moocher]

Somewhere I got the impression that electronics which are supposed to be properly recycled get sent to sweat shops where improperly protected adults and children from third-world countries tear them apart and dispose of them in ways most of us would not approve of.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Mooch

[Draconis]

Unknown, but I doubt it. I would think that the cost of shipping the equipment to a 3rd world country is more than it is worth to recycle it locally.

[JeffBowser]

There has actually been a couple exposes (20/20, something like that), where it did show huge shiploads of our "recycled" computers and stuff were merely sent overseas and "improperly" handled. What, exactly, they do with the stuff once it is out of our sight is really anyone's guess, but 3rd world countries are usually more concerned with surviving and finding their next meal than with our tender sensibilities here over where our crap goes.
:D

Somewhere I got the impression that electronics which are supposed to be properly recycled get sent to sweat shops where improperly protected adults and children from third-world countries tear them apart and dispose of them in ways most of us would not approve of.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Mooch

[dragonbait]

Unknown, but I doubt it. I would think that the cost of shipping the equipment to a 3rd world country is more than it is worth to recycle it locally.
There was a story on NBC news about a week or two ago about this woman that built a paper recycling empire in China based on shipping recycled paper from the US. Most of the freighters are going back to China empty so shipping costs to China are very low for her company to get the paper from the US.

[curt8403]

Somewhere I got the impression that electronics which are supposed to be properly recycled get sent to sweat shops where improperly protected adults and children from third-world countries tear them apart and dispose of them in ways most of us would not approve of.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Mooch

I've seen a situation where a Improperly protected adult, tore the cover off the equippment to get the aluminum, and threw the circuit board in a grinder to turn it to chaff, but they take the chaff and soak in in chemicals to extract the metals

[mx6bfast]

So we're cleaning out the basement storage area today and I came across an old H10 and an old RCA POS SD receiver as well. What in the heck do I do with these things? I don't feel right just throwing them in the landfill. Does anyone like to tinker with these old receivers?
1) Sell on ebay, craighslist, etc
2) Use H10 for OTA only
3) Activate, then ask D* to upgrade them
4) Provide H10 to local affiliate who has a problem with HD and have them monitor the feed
5) Dispose of

[ronrico51]

Best bet is eBay. But don't expect much.

Well, I just checked ebay. Hr10-250s go for about $125, sd dtivos like the hdvr2 go for about $50. Sounds like they would be worth listing there. But if you just want to get rid of them, and they work, I would pay the shipping to take them off your hands.
People still want those sd dtivos, they work well, and are easy to use. I use one every day, the majority of folks still use sd on one or more sets.

[Redlinetire]

Well, I just checked ebay. Hr10-250s go for about $125, sd dtivos like the hdvr2 go for about $50. Sounds like they would be worth listing there. But if you just want to get rid of them, and they work, I would pay the shipping to take them off your hands.
People still want those sd dtivos, they work well, and are easy to use. I use one every day, the majority of folks still use sd on one or more sets.

HR10 with Tivo, yes.

H10 - which I believe the OP is talking about, not so much.

[hdtvfan0001]

Do you own a small boat? :lol:

(as in....do you need an anchor?...in case you didn't get my lame joke)

OK...seriously....I wonder if you can trade it in for something newer that you may be able to use....it's worth a call to DirecTV perhaps.... :D

I must have 4-5 old receivers floating around here myself, and am thinking "what can I do with these" as well...

[Stuart Sweet]

Somewhere I got the impression that electronics which are supposed to be properly recycled get sent to sweat shops where improperly protected adults and children from third-world countries tear them apart and dispose of them in ways most of us would not approve of.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Mooch

I've read similar stories and can't confirm them.

[JLucPicard]

I must have 4-5 old receivers floating around here myself, and am thinking "what can I do with these" as well...
If you have old receivers that are floating around, I'm not sure that an anchor is a viable option for them! :D

[hdtvfan0001]

If you have old receivers that are floating around, I'm not sure that an anchor is a viable option for them! :D
Good comeback! :lol: