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So I played golf and took down decorations while recording the NHL winter classic. So recording ends with 5 mins left to play since the program was at end of scheduled time period. One would think a signal could be sent to extend recording for live sports events that might go longer than planned. :mad: :mad: :mad:
So I played golf and took down decorations while recording the NHL winter classic. So recording ends with 5 mins left to play since the program was at end of scheduled time period. One would think a signal could be sent to extend recording for live sports events that might go longer than planned. :mad: :mad: :mad:
You have the ability to pad the ending time up to 3 hours I think it is.
That said I know what you mean.
I thought that the recorder did show recording, not time recording, but does not know how to determine the end of a program , other than time wise.
Jimbo
So you knew it was live sports and then *chose* not to pad it and now you're mad that your DVR made a different choice?
You understand the technology and it's capabilities, you need to direct those mad faces at yourself.
A lot of things can be done, but you need to deal with what is being done.
mightyb
01-01-08, 06:00 PM
The first RULE of recording sports with your DVR is to PAD YOUR RECORDINGS
Until they make a system to send some sort of signal to all DVRs to extend recording of a sports event that runs over, we'll have to pad it ourselves when making the recording.
Sucks when i forget but I know who to blame.
If you want to blame someone, blame the crappy job done by whoever set up the outdoor rink. If they had not had to spend so much time repairing the ice, the game would not have run over.
SPACEMAKER
01-01-08, 06:46 PM
The first RULE of recording sports with your DVR is to PAD YOUR RECORDINGS
QFT
I always assumed people figured that out after the 1st time they recorded a sporting event and the end cut off. I pad mine by an hour just because you never know...
ACILLATEM
01-01-08, 06:51 PM
QFT
Completely off topic........cool avatar! Best frontman to ever walk this rock, if you ask me!
adunkle
01-01-08, 07:06 PM
WTHR Indianapolis didn't even televise the game. I did a timed recording hoping they would be as I suspected they didn't televise it.
ThomasM
01-01-08, 07:08 PM
I'm not a big sports fan. But I know the stupid football game on CBS every Sunday night is going to run past it's scheduled time every week and screw up my recording of "Shark" at 9:00PM CST. So my prioritizer entry for Shark tells the DVR to record an EXTRA HOUR!! I used to have it set for only a half hour but I learned my lesson. And if it goes over, no problem, I get to watch the local news (or at least some of it) :D
Steve Mehs
01-01-08, 07:11 PM
If you want to blame someone, blame the crappy job done by whoever set up the outdoor rink. If they had not had to spend so much time repairing the ice, the game would not have run over.
:nono2: The men and women that make up the ice crew spent countless hours since last weekend Monday to try to make this the best it could be and this is what you have to say? Given everything that could have went wrong, combined with an effort to make sure everything was as to the book as possible, these hard working individuals did a great job and it was amazing to see the construction.
How many football stadiums have you transformed into hockey rinks lately?
I always pad but really, tho, how hard would it be for DTV to work out a MAINTAIN RECORDING code from the content supplier? Sounds like something a first grader could code in his sleep. Then the user could select from "AUTO EXTEND" or decline it in the record menu in case they had something they had to record at the tail that would conflict. Trivial to implement and save thousands of clipped-off OT periods every week.
HouseBowlrz
01-01-08, 07:28 PM
... my prioritizer entry for Shark tells the DVR to record an EXTRA HOUR!! I used to have it set for only a half hour but I learned my lesson. And if it goes over, no problem, I get to watch the local news (or at least some of it) :D
I also add an extra hour for Shark but was wondering whether I should make it 90 minutes after Thanksgiving weekend.
That Sunday, when Chicago beat Denver in OT, I was wondering if things were going to be more than an hour late. It wound up being 55 minutes behind schedule so I was still safe ... (thank goodness the Redskins were on the road that weekend so I could keep an eye on it)
That goes back to CBS scheduling their prime time shows to start at 1900/7pm ET on their doubleheader Sundays when the late games do not start until 1615/4:!5pm ET. Anything less than three hours for a football game is unrealistic.
cheers
BTW, it happened to be snowing heavily and that flat ice surface is built on top of a 9" crown that a football field maintains to allow runoff so they had to build an extensive styrofoam shim system to overcome the hump in the middle of the field. All in all, a huge labor of love and dedication by the crew to give us all a little pond hockey nostalgia. One of the delays was caused by a Zamboni that got a big hunk of ice caught up in it. The game was a huge success on all levels, and the weather was perfect!
ThomasM
01-01-08, 07:40 PM
I also add an extra hour for Shark but was wondering whether I should make it 90 minutes after Thanksgiving weekend.
That Sunday, when Chicago beat Denver in OT, I was wondering if things were going to be more than an hour late. It wound up being 55 minutes behind schedule so I was still safe ... (thank goodness the Redskins were on the road that weekend so I could keep an eye on it)
That goes back to CBS scheduling their prime time shows to start at 1900/7pm ET on their doubleheader Sundays when the late games do not start until 1615/4:!5pm ET. Anything less than three hours for a football game is unrealistic.
cheers
"Shark" is an excellent show that viewers take extra steps to see (like us). Things weren't so rosy when they stuck "Without A Trace" in that same dreaded 9PM slot on Sunday night. So they moved it back to the plum slot after CSI on Thursday night and it's ratings went back up. (Where SHARK used to be!) :D
Moral of the story: Irregardless if you love hockey, Shark, or any show-if it involves the uncertainty of a sports broadcast TAKE EXTRA STEPS TO BE SURE YOU AREN'T DISAPPOINTED LATER!!
TheRatPatrol
01-01-08, 07:41 PM
I always pad but really, tho, how hard would it be for DTV to work out a MAINTAIN RECORDING code from the content supplier? Sounds like something a first grader could code in his sleep. Then the user could select from "AUTO EXTEND" or decline it in the record menu in case they had something they had to record at the tail that would conflict. Trivial to implement and save thousands of clipped-off OT periods every week.
I agree. Or they could make all sporting events padded by one hour over. On my old Ultimate TV DVR it would automatically pad sporting events by 30 minutes, unless there was a conflict on another channel.
Thats why I always record the shows after a sporting event.
JMartinko
01-01-08, 07:43 PM
If you want to blame someone, blame the crappy job done by whoever set up the outdoor rink. If they had not had to spend so much time repairing the ice, the game would not have run over.
I think the 'person' responsible for scheduling the weather was really the one to blame. If they had more constant temperatures without the snow/rain/grain it would have been a better show.
:alterhase
Steve Mehs
01-01-08, 07:44 PM
BTW, it happened to be snowing heavily and that flat ice surface is built on top of a 9" crown that a football field maintains to allow runoff so they had to build an extensive styrofoam shim system to overcome the hump in the middle of the field. All in all, a huge labor of love and dedication by the crew to give us all a little pond hockey nostalgia. One of the delays was caused by a Zamboni that got a big hunk of ice caught up in it. The game was a huge success on all levels, and the weather was perfect!
AMEN! In the news interviews of the ice crew you could see the look of pure exhaustion on their faces, but were as upbeat and excited as anyone. You could tell how much the loved doing this even though they had just over a week to get it done.
Steve Mehs
01-01-08, 07:56 PM
I think the 'person' responsible for scheduling the weather was really the one to blame. If they had more constant temperatures without the snow/rain/grain it would have been a better show.
:alterhase
Now this I’m baffled at. This is Buffalo, it can snow, rain, sleet and hail any day in between October and April. Temperatures can be between -10 and 65 in December and January. Today’s weather was perfect for an outdoor hockey game. When I went to the Sabres season opener, the thermometer in my truck registered a high in the mid 80s when I was heading downtown in the afternoon, I’m guessing there would have been a few more problems with the ice then there were today had it been like that.
ThomasM
01-01-08, 08:01 PM
I think the 'person' responsible for scheduling the weather was really the one to blame. If they had more constant temperatures without the snow/rain/grain it would have been a better show.
:alterhase
They were probably watching "The Weather Channel" to get an updated forecast, but all they got was "Storm Stories" or some other stupid program that did not give viewers the local forecast.
Weather Channel = Good luck getting a forecast.
MTV = Good luck getting a video
:mad:
Steve Mehs
01-01-08, 08:06 PM
All updated forecasts came courtesy of NBC Weather+ :)
I always pad but really, tho, how hard would it be for DTV to work out a MAINTAIN RECORDING code from the content supplier? Sounds like something a first grader could code in his sleep. Then the user could select from "AUTO EXTEND" or decline it in the record menu in case they had something they had to record at the tail that would conflict. Trivial to implement and save thousands of clipped-off OT periods every week.
There you go then, get a bunch of first graders and take on the project if it's so easy. :rolleyes:
The UTV solution mentioned later in the thread would be easier and essentially protect those that forget. But then again, I'm in favor of auto pad settings on all recordings that don't conflict ala the old hack Endpad Plus.
masterdeals
01-01-08, 08:15 PM
HERE YOU GO:
Channel 74 UHD has a full replay tommorrow at 5pm.
If you don't get it, you can still get the 3 month free for adding the HD extra pack.
The game was very fun to watch, and the ending was by far the best.
:nono2: The men and women that make up the ice crew spent countless hours since last weekend Monday to try to make this the best it could be and this is what you have to say? Given everything that could have went wrong, combined with an effort to make sure everything was as to the book as possible, these hard working individuals did a great job and it was amazing to see the construction.
How many football stadiums have you transformed into hockey rinks lately?
If I work hard and my work product stinks, it stinks and those are simply the facts. Doesn't mean I shouldn't be proud or that these men and women shouldn't be proud either, but the ice surface stunk and it took away from the game.
Sharkie_Fan
01-01-08, 08:20 PM
If you want to blame someone, blame the crappy job done by whoever set up the outdoor rink. If they had not had to spend so much time repairing the ice, the game would not have run over.
All in all, I didn't think they spent that much time repairing the ice. The extra zamboni runs in the middle of periods added MUCH more time than any repairs to the ice did. Especially when they had to do it with 1 zamboni for at least 1 run after the 2nd zamboni froze up or something!
I thought, for having a hockey rink in the middle of a football field, it went pretty darn good.
bwaldron
01-01-08, 08:42 PM
I thought, for having a hockey rink in the middle of a football field, it went pretty darn good.
Agreed. They did a great job, esp. w/ the snow involved, and it was quite a show and a fun afternoon of pond hockey.
:nono2: The men and women that make up the ice crew spent countless hours since last weekend Monday to try to make this the best it could be and this is what you have to say? Given everything that could have went wrong, combined with an effort to make sure everything was as to the book as possible, these hard working individuals did a great job and it was amazing to see the construction.
How many football stadiums have you transformed into hockey rinks lately?
What I have or have not done has nothing to do with it. You are out of line making it personal.
Steve Mehs
01-01-08, 09:20 PM
:rolleyes: Making it personal, oh boy. Sure whatever, the rink sucked, now go play somewhere else since the general consensus from players and fans was that it was a great game.
If you have any constructive input on how the rink should have been built, designed and maintained during falling snow, by all means contact the NHL, maybe you could have an impact on the design if and when they have another outdoor game.
:rolleyes: Making it personal, oh boy. Sure whatever, the rink sucked, now go play somewhere else since the general consensus from players and fans was that it was a great game.
If you have any constructive input on how the rink should have been built, designed and maintained during falling snow, by all means contact the NHL, maybe you could have an impact on the design if and when they have another outdoor game.You are still out of line. The game was delayed because they had to repair the surface. That is a fact. I will concede that the weather had a lot to do with the problems. As a matter of fact, I never said it was not a great game. I have the same right to post my opinion here as you do. The forum is about Directv and the thread is about the necessity for padding on sports broadcasts.
myselfalso
01-01-08, 10:03 PM
If adding a little signal to tell TiVo to keep recording...and first graders could do it...why wouldn't they do it?
Probably because it's not that feasible to do. Not to mention, think of the PR horror D* would have if--for whatever reason--a sporting event got cut off because the signal didn't get sent properly. Maybe D* doesn't want to do it, because they'd rather have people be responsible for themselves padding their TiVos.
Sharkie_Fan
01-01-08, 10:03 PM
You are still out of line. The game was delayed because they had to repair the surface. That is a fact. I will concede that the weather had a lot to do with the problems. As a matter of fact, I never said it was not a great game. I have the same right to post my opinion here as you do. The forum is about Directv and the thread is about the necessity for padding on sports broadcasts.
I watched the game live, so I don't know how long over it went, but, IIRC from looking at the guide during the game, it went over by a significant amount. The amount of overrun was WAY more than the time spent repairing the ice.
The extra Zamboni runs halfway through each period was MUCH more of a delay than were the few minor fixes they had to do to the ice.
Ice repairs are a part of the game, and I've seen repairs to "good" ice surfaces take longer than the few repairs they had to make during today's game. They weren't the sole cause, or IMHO, even a major contributor to the game running over today.
I watched the game live, so I don't know how long over it went, but, IIRC from looking at the guide during the game, it went over by a significant amount. The amount of overrun was WAY more than the time spent repairing the ice.
The extra Zamboni runs halfway through each period was MUCH more of a delay than were the few minor fixes they had to do to the ice.
Ice repairs are a part of the game, and I've seen repairs to "good" ice surfaces take longer than the few repairs they had to make during today's game. They weren't the sole cause, or IMHO, even a major contributor to the game running over today.I agree that there was more to the delays than just the ice repairs. I also believe that it was one heck of a job to construct and get an outdoor rink ready to play an NHL game outdoors. We can all agree that it was a good game and all sports programming recorded should be padded if you want to make sure you get to see it all when you watch it later. It does appear that it will be rebroadcast on UHD so those who missed the end can get another chance. :)
How can you "be responsible" if you have no idea how long the event is going to go for? The only reasonable system is for the content provider in cooperation with the distributor to provide an "EXTEND RECORDING" code that DVRs can decode and continue recording. Oh ya, this is truly rocket science in the age of HD and MPEG4 and streaming data with tons of extra info imbedded in them.
If they could do it why haven't they??? These are the same guys who COULD have provided us with a simple dedicated slo-mo button like every video recording device since the stone age has, but who DIDN'T.
Sure the outside game has extra tedious delays built in. But the fans loved it in the stands and at home. And more efficient maintenance can be worked out for future games. Perhaps even an automated system of sweepers and hot watering. It's an idea whose time has come. It's good for hockey, and like Crosby said, "it's pretty pure."
sharksfan
01-02-08, 04:05 AM
BTW, it happened to be snowing heavily and that flat ice surface is built on top of a 9" crown that a football field maintains to allow runoff so they had to build an extensive styrofoam shim system to overcome the hump in the middle of the field. All in all, a huge labor of love and dedication by the crew to give us all a little pond hockey nostalgia. One of the delays was caused by a Zamboni that got a big hunk of ice caught up in it. The game was a huge success on all levels, and the weather was perfect!
+1
How can you "be responsible" if you have no idea how long the event is going to go for? The only reasonable system is for the content provider in cooperation with the distributor to provide an "EXTEND RECORDING" code that DVRs can decode and continue recording. Oh ya, this is truly rocket science in the age of HD and MPEG4 and streaming data with tons of extra info imbedded in them.
Let's get this straight. You want the content providers, those whose true content is advertising cloaked in the packaging of interesting programs, to work in cooperation with those that are designing a device that not only allows, but facilitates you avoiding their true content? Good luck with that.
If you understand broadcast television, you understand that you are not the customer, you are the product being delivered to the customers (advertisers) and the way you willingly allow that delivery is through the silly programs.
When you know something is prone to go over, and have the only tools available in the marketplace to protect what you want and you choose not to use them, I'd call that responsible.
wilbur_the_goose
01-02-08, 06:13 AM
Heck - D*'s control room cuts off the end of NHLCI programming all the time. What should they do?
mtnagel
01-02-08, 06:21 AM
If you want to blame someone, blame the crappy job done by whoever set up the outdoor rink. If they had not had to spend so much time repairing the ice, the game would not have run over.It still went into OT and penalty shots though. Can't blame that on the people responsible for the ice. And what do you expect, they built an ice rink on a football field in 1.5 weeks. I thought it was an awesome game. I didn't miss anything because I padded.
I will remember to pad, I will remember to pad. However 30 min pad wouldnt have been enough here most hockey games are done in 2:30 even with OT. This one went well beyond normal 30 minute pad. Still would like the feature of somehow having the DVR pad. I had thought I also took extra precautions to leave the DVR on the channel so I had buffer to use as well however wife decided to change channels right before I started to watch the recording. I guess I need to train the wife as well
Upstream
01-02-08, 07:38 AM
A friend of mine has a DVR (I don't know what kind) that prompts "This is a live event, do you want to extend the end time" when he schedules a sporting event.
While this might be a nice reminder, it is still the responsibility of the user to decide if and how long to pad sporting events.
The bigger problem is shows that air after a sporting event (especially if a series-link), since the recording start time of those shows don't get moved when an event runs long.
Ideally, the solution is a dynamic guide, which automatically adjusts as shows run long, or get changed. Then you would never have to worry about padding a live event, because the guide would show that the event is still being aired (and it would continue to record), until it actually ends.
Of course, I can see a lot of technical issues with the ideal solution, such as how to get the dynamic guide to the DVR (especially ones that dial out to get guide updates), or how to handle recording conflicts which happen as the guide changes.
But I expect that we'll see some sort of dynamic guide solution within 10 years.
i am surprised the NHL network is not rebroadcasting this game in the next few days. if you look at their website, it isnt listed up to this saturday. youd think they would broadcast that instead of some 1999 red wings game that noone cares about.
i am surprised the NHL network is not rebroadcasting this game in the next few days. if you look at their website, it isnt listed up to this saturday. youd think they would broadcast that instead of some 1999 red wings game that noone cares about.It is being rebroadcast on UHD Channel 74 at 5:00 PM EST today.
cool. i should be able to see it then.
DarkAudit
01-02-08, 11:18 AM
The unis looked awesome. Apparently the Penguins have petitioned the league to use the blues as their alts next season. Sweet. :D
webhype
01-02-08, 11:35 AM
I padded this recording by an hour, thus I didn't miss the end - however my old HD8300 DVR from TWC used to ask to extend "a live event" by 30 minutes. Frankly I think the provider of TV listings to D* is inferior to what I have seen on TWC, thus the no "Live Event" flag. As a matter of fact the other day I realized the D* guide doesn't provide a rating similiar to how many "Stars" **** the movie received.
The first RULE of recording sports with your DVR is to PAD YOUR RECORDINGS
Ditto.. that is something that everyone that records sports has to be prepared to do. Add time to the end. You never know when a high scoring game, injury delays, weather delays, etc. can prolong a sporting event past its TV schedule allotted time.
bwaldron
01-02-08, 03:33 PM
Ditto.. that is something that everyone that records sports has to be prepared to do. Add time to the end. You never know when a high scoring game, injury delays, weather delays, etc. can prolong a sporting event past its TV schedule allotted time.
Most definitely. And pad by *a lot* if you are recording an NHL playoff game ;)
Our eyeballs are being provided to the advertiser, so the advertiser wants us cut off before they show us all their ads??? And in an incredibly PO'd mood so we hate their products? Yeah, right.
If the NHL CI channels can stop recording AT THE END OF THE GAME, and MLB does the same, and many others, why not all sports events? Answer, it's easy and they can.
For instance, I'm watching an MLB package game, and from about :10 seconds after the final out to about 2 or 3 minutes later, the recording automatically stops and I get the "do you want to delete?" screen. The recording last the length of the game. What was my original setting for record length? None in particular, just the default "record game". So what does DTV do? IT RECORDS THE GAME. ALL OF IT.
So the correct question is: if they already do it on some channels, why not all?
JLucPicard
01-03-08, 05:20 AM
Maruuk,
I'm not positive, but I think on the sports packs as you've outlined, once the game is over they cut the signal essentially, therefore the recording stops. That is not an option on network TV where the game is followed by other programming - can't just cut the signal on that channel.
Our eyeballs are being provided to the advertiser, so the advertiser wants us cut off before they show us all their ads??? And in an incredibly PO'd mood so we hate their products? Yeah, right.
You're right, the adveritsers would prefer to make DVR use easy in order that you're not mad whaen you're FAST FORWARDING over their ads. :rolleyes:
You're not watching them and they know that.
Hey with this new crappy FF on the HR20/21 instead of the vastly superior :30 advance on Tivos, my cortex absorbs some of the ad images so we don't get off scot-free!
cwdonahue
01-03-08, 12:16 PM
I have a suggestion for the next Winter Classic.
Hold it in Chicago and feature an Original Six matchup - Red Wings vs. Blackhawks. Blackhawks are coming back with Kane and Toews and, as for the Red Wings, they keep rolling along. It would be great to see the game in Soldier Field. I'd buy a ticket in a heartbeat for that.
and...I'll remember to pad my recording time to allow for Overtime and a Shoot Out!
Hey with this new crappy FF on the HR20/21 instead of the vastly superior :30 advance on Tivos, my cortex absorbs some of the ad images so we don't get off scot-free!
:) You got a friendly laugh out of me. :)
Just don't let your TiVo reboot or you'll have to re-enter the secret code. :)
I think they need to hold the Winter Classic at Dolphins Stadium. Rangers at the Panthers. It's not like 1/2 of NY isn't in Florida this time of year anyway :).
Okay, so it'd have to be roller hockey...
Billsfan69
01-03-08, 09:45 PM
You are still out of line. The game was delayed because they had to repair the surface. That is a fact. I will concede that the weather had a lot to do with the problems. As a matter of fact, I never said it was not a great game. I have the same right to post my opinion here as you do. The forum is about Directv and the thread is about the necessity for padding on sports broadcasts.
Well You could just pad yourself. It takes like 5 seconds.
Billsfan69
01-03-08, 09:47 PM
I think they need to hold the Winter Classic at Dolphins Stadium. Rangers at the Panthers. It's not like 1/2 of NY isn't in Florida this time of year anyway :).
Okay, so it'd have to be roller hockey...
The NHL actually played an outdoor pre-season game in Las Vegas when it was over 80 degrees out.
Billsfan69
01-03-08, 09:50 PM
The unis looked awesome. Apparently the Penguins have petitioned the league to use the blues as their alts next season. Sweet. :D
Cool thing! I wish my Sabres would go back to those uniforms. They are bringing back their old logo but with the new design of their jersey.
O man, the new unis are totally embarrassing! My Sharks look like Louis Catorce's court jesters in those getups. They ought to play Renaissance bourees when they skate out instead of "Are You Ready for This?".
An Original Six outside game is totally where it's at. As long as it's snowing.
Cool thing! I wish my Sabres would go back to those uniforms. They are bringing back their old logo but with the new design of their jersey.
Word, When I drink coffee out of my Bison and Cross-swords logoed mug, I always cringe at what the logo has become. At least we're a step better than the goat head they gave us for 10 years. I honestly thought it was a joke when I first saw it. I couldn't believe a group of adults would select it.
wilbur_the_goose
01-04-08, 04:52 AM
It's the banana slug!
bwaldron
01-04-08, 02:52 PM
It's the banana slug!
Heh. I thought it was some sort of hamster. :)
mtsz52784
01-04-08, 05:43 PM
HAHA ... I was smart enough to record the show following it because of how dumb of a time limit they gave it. I even went to it and seen myself on wonderful HD. But yeah something should be able to happen for sporting events
Steve Mehs
01-04-08, 07:35 PM
I love the new logo, never cared for the original, I liked the colors though, the goat head was a step in the right direction, but black and red aren't Sabres colors, blue and yellow are..
Long live the slug!
Sharkie_Fan
01-04-08, 07:52 PM
I love the new logo, never cared for the original, I liked the colors though, the goat head was a step in the right direction, but black and red aren't Sabres colors, blue and yellow are..
Long live the slug!
So YOU are the ONE sabres fan the likes the new banana slug logo!:lol:
Actually, I probably shouldn't talk... the new Sharks jerseys with the ORANGE trim are just awful! It's probably why we play so poorly at home - they're all embarassed to be seen in front of their loving fans wearing those gawd awful unis!
Steve Mehs
01-04-08, 08:37 PM
I actually think the slug is pretty popular. Sabres merchandise has been red hot the last year and a half. I see more people with slug apparel, the I ever have with the goat head. I myself have probably spent $800 since the beginning of the season alone. Hats, tshirts, cups, mouse pads, and the official Sabres Reebok trainers and staff jacket, paper thin, but it looks great. :) I'm really seriously considering getting the Sabres bed in a bag set but at I think $300, I'll spend my money on electronic toys first :)
I love the new logo, never cared for the original, I liked the colors though, the goat head was a step in the right direction, but black and red aren't Sabres colors, blue and yellow are..
Long live the slug!
Yeah but if I remember correctly, you're fairly young, so you didn't spend any adult years with the bison and cross swords and I don't even think you were out of the womb when they played the flyers for the cup. You don't really get an opinion on anything before the goat. :p
The killer touch on our new Sharks unis are the additional shark emblems on the epaulets/shoulders. That totally puts the look squarely into Bozo territory. I'm pretty sure the new jerseys were designed by Matthew Lesko.
TheRatPatrol
01-05-08, 02:42 PM
Sorry for the short notice, but this game will be on again in about 20 minutes on NHLN, channel 215.
JLucPicard
01-05-08, 04:29 PM
Just flipped this on. Is that a regulation sized rink? The few minutes I've watched it looked awfully small.
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 04:45 PM
If the rink wasn't regulation size, I don't think the NHL would have allowed the game. Regulation is 200' x 85', a football field is 360' x 160', taking the difference in those numbers, and comparing them to what I saw on TV, the rink does seem about the right size.
mtnagel
01-05-08, 04:45 PM
Just flipped this on. Is that a regulation sized rink? The few minutes I've watched it looked awfully small.Maybe it looks small because it's in the middle of a football field :)
JLucPicard
01-05-08, 04:52 PM
I haven't seen any wide shots - they are pretty tight on the rink. I'm more or less judging from how big the guys look in comparisson to the "real estate" between the blue lines and center lines. They just look proportionatly bigger in there than I'm used to in other games. I don't watch an awful lot of hockey, though. And what I do see is usually the ice at the Xcel Center and I don't know how that compares in size to other ice.
It also looks a lot tighter behind the goal than I'm used to seeing.
Maybe just an optical illusion.
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 05:21 PM
Yeah but if I remember correctly, you're fairly young, so you didn't spend any adult years with the bison and cross swords and I don't even think you were out of the womb when they played the flyers for the cup. You don't really get an opinion on anything before the goat. :p
True, but I've seen a lot of classic Sabres game and started following the Sabres with the cross swords in the early '90s with Lalalalalalafontaine, so I should have a say in the matter :D I really wouldn't be too surprised if the original logo returns at some point. Last year they did go throwback during a few games.
This bring back any memories?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuyLUd36Wfg&feature=related
No matter which logo you like better, Cross swords, goat or slug, this is something we can all agree on. :)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6606/sabres12yi4.png
:) I'm so old I consider Lafontaine new school. :) I'm a Perreault guy. Give me 11 in a white home cross swords uni and I'm smiling!
ETA: I just watched the video. NICE! I have that song on a 45.
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 06:10 PM
What’s a 45? :lol: I have the 1999 version of the song on MP3 on my iPod. :)
I was at Tully's Bar & Grille the other day and they had a French Connection jersey showcase, 7, 11 & 14 in white, looked great! Across the street from where I work is a garage that we do business with, when my uncle worked where I do back in the late '90s, he used to run into Perreault every now and then there.
Sweet.
FYI, I grew up in Wales Center. You sir are my brother Chief!
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 06:55 PM
Wales Center, wow small world. I'm just north in Marilla. I lived in Holland until I was 5 then we moved here.
TheRatPatrol
01-05-08, 08:06 PM
Lalalalalalafontaine
Man I used to love that, it gave me goose bumps. :D
I'd like to find that on you tube.
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 08:14 PM
Man I used to love that, it gave me goose bumps. :D
I'd like to find that on you tube.
Here ya go :)
Pat LaFontaine's Tribute Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TZL4BCePwA)
Top 10 Rick Jeanneret Calls (#9) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfbyrKnKc0&feature=related)
TheRatPatrol
01-05-08, 08:54 PM
Here ya go :)
Pat LaFontaine's Tribute Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TZL4BCePwA)
Top 10 Rick Jeanneret Calls (#9) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfbyrKnKc0&feature=related)
There goes the goose bumps. :D
I love the "tis the season" LaFontaine one. Rick Jeanneret is such a great announcer.
Man I love hockey. :)
Steve Mehs
01-05-08, 09:16 PM
Rick Jeanneret is such a great announcer
Yes he is!
Steve Mehs
01-06-08, 02:09 AM
I have a suggestion for the next Winter Classic.
Hold it in Chicago and feature an Original Six matchup - Red Wings vs. Blackhawks. Blackhawks are coming back with Kane and Toews and, as for the Red Wings, they keep rolling along. It would be great to see the game in Soldier Field. I'd buy a ticket in a heartbeat for that.
and...I'll remember to pad my recording time to allow for Overtime and a Shoot Out!
I didn't see this until now. I'll tell you right now that will never happen. An outdoor hockey game at Ford Field in Detroit maybe, but never in Chicago. While with Buffalo born Kane, the Blackhawks aren't living up to ESPNs Worst Sports Franchise in History title this year, Chicago doesn't strike me as an overly passionate hockey market.
Buffalo and Pittsburgh were two excellent picks by the NHL. You have one of the most passionate hockey markets in the country hosting the event, and the visiting team just happens to be the one with the NHLs new wonder boy and who they want to make the face of the sport like Gretzky was for so many years. Choosing these two teams for the Winter Classic was an excellent marketing move.
lmunster
01-06-08, 07:06 PM
So I played golf and took down decorations while recording the NHL winter classic. So recording ends with 5 mins left to play since the program was at end of scheduled time period. One would think a signal could be sent to extend recording for live sports events that might go longer than planned. :mad: :mad: :mad:
And what sport is this? Oh, it's a hockey fight.
REDSKINSFAN47
01-06-08, 08:18 PM
i like watching hockey outdoors in the snow,that adds alot to the game.
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