View Full Version : Combine 101, 110, 119 Signals
Puraavida
02-03-08, 04:42 AM
Hello,
Iam trying to combine 3 signals using individual dishes. Unfotunatelly I have many trees sorounding the house and I cant get a clear signal from the phase III tripple lnb dish.
So I bought 3 round dishes and pointed each one at the 101, 110, 119. I have a battery operated signall meter and they are all alighned and getting strong signals. They are scattered around in different areas along my roof. My problem is how do I combine the three dishes so that I can plug it into my reciever.
I have looked at diiferent multiswitches and combiners and I cant find the right one. I have not found a multiswitch that says it can combine all three of these signals.
What do you guys recomend.
I was thinking of getting a 4x4 multiswitch to combine 110 and 119 then getting a 6x8 multiswitch and conecting the 2 lnb wires from 101 and two wires coming out of the 4x4 multiswitch with the 110 and 119 combined.
Will this work. Is their an easier way. like a single multiswitch that will combine all three birds.
For the 101 and 119 you use a 4x4 switch. For the 110 you add a Sat C kit.
AntAltMike
02-03-08, 08:31 AM
The Sat C kit, which now can be found for about $20 or less, includes a special diplexer that combines the three Sat C even transponders with the six Sat B even numbered transponders into one coax, which then connects to the Sat B, 22 KHz, 18 volt input on the switch.
Last time I checked, Sats B and C only had nine HDTV channels on them. If you really want access to the new HDTV programming from the 99 and 103 degree Ka satellites, you will have to come up with a more elaborate solution, which may require running a second, separate coax to your receiver location where it can manually be switched in as need. or I suppose it might be possible, with a two tuner receiver, to connect one AU9 coax to one input and some more conventional Ku, 3 satellite coax to the other, but my concerrn is that the receiver might start throwing up some "signal not found" messages on the screen at inopportune times.
There is also a thread here on combining the 99/101/103 AT9 dish, which is the predeccessor of the AU9 but with physically separated LNB units for Sat B and C reception, with your separate Sat B and C dishes that are located elsewhere.
110 uses an entirely different type of LNB, and requires a special combiner to mix it and the 119 together. So you need both a Sat C LNB and a Sat C combiner.
Once you have 110 and 119 combined, you feed them collectively to the second set of inputs on the multiswitch. Any 4 input, 5 input or 6 input multiswitch will work for this purpose.
If you are considering HD, then you want to look at what AntAltMike suggested.
Carl
litzdog911
02-03-08, 12:21 PM
See the link in my signature below for tips and diagrams on combining multiple dishes to get around trees.
As Carl points out you need a special LNB and combiner for the 110-deg W dish called a "SatC Kit". Not sure how easy it will be to find these days.
Puraavida
02-04-08, 11:55 AM
I found the sat c combiner.
Eagle Aspen SSC-1 SAT-C / SAT-B 18V/22 Khz Combiner (SSC-1)
Can I use the standard LNB with the sat c/sat b combiner. Or do I need to find the this special sat c LNB.
You need the special LNB.
What programing are you trying to get?
Puraavida
02-06-08, 01:56 PM
I actually live in the Dominican Republic and the signal here is very very week. I have three 6' dishes all alighned and pointed to 101, 110, 119.
Currently I have the 110 and 119 setup to run my dishnetwork recievers. I have the 101 running only to my h20 directv reciever.
I would like to add the 110 and 119 birds to my directv signal.
Via 101 I get the majority of all programming, at 119 I would get the spanish programing "paratodos" which I really dont care for. And I was hoping to integrate the 110 signal to get my local broadcasting and some HD chanels.
Are their still any HD chanels on 110 or did they move all HD to the KA birds.
I also remember something that you had to be on the spot beam to recieve the locals. Is this still tru. My reciever shows the local chanels on the menu but it just says serching for satellite signal when I tune to the station.
If I cant get locals or some HD on the 110 Iam not even going to bother changing my setup.
veryoldschool
02-06-08, 02:21 PM
Are their still any HD chanels on 110 or did they move all HD to the KA birds.
I also remember something that you had to be on the spot beam to recieve the locals. Is this still tru. My reciever shows the local chanels on the menu but it just says serching for satellite signal when I tune to the station.
If I cant get locals or some HD on the 110 Iam not even going to bother changing my setup.
There are still HD channels from the three transponder off the 110 SAT. They will be moving to the new Ka SATs in time.
Locals are all on spot beams.
Puraavida
02-06-08, 02:27 PM
There are still HD channels from the three transponder off the 110 SAT. They will be moving to the new Ka SATs in time.
Locals are all on spot beams.
So your saying that the locals will ony work if I am actually in the area. Even though my reciver shows the channel in the program guide it wont recieve it in the Dominican Republic?
Bill Broderick
02-06-08, 02:56 PM
So your saying that the locals will ony work if I am actually in the area. Even though my reciver shows the channel in the program guide it wont recieve it in the Dominican Republic?
Yes. That's correct. The program guide gets the locals based on the zip code that you enter. If the beamwidth of the spot beam, that services the zip code that you entered, doesn't reach the location in which the dish is located, you won't receive that programming.
veryoldschool
02-06-08, 02:57 PM
So your saying that the locals will ony work if I am actually in the area. Even though my reciver shows the channel in the program guide it wont recieve it in the Dominican Republic?
That is correct.
veryoldschool
02-06-08, 02:58 PM
The program guide gets the locals based on the zip code that you enter.
The zip code is only for OTA channels and the SAT locals are from the service address.
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