Fox News Channel HD

[Nazcar]

Does anyone have any news on when FNC is going to broadcast HD? Please stay on subject, I don't want anyones opinion on the channel. Thank you.

[D*HR-20]

No, we don't have anymore of an idea of when FNC HD is coming today as the guy who posted asking about it yesterday or the day before that or the day before that.

I don't know how accurate the info was, but in one of the other threads someone said Q3 of this year.

[JDubbs413]

I think we get a new thread asking about FNC HD everyday.

[Carl Spock]

Nazcar, welcome to the board.

The answer is they've said sometime in 2008. Who knows when?

[Old Tv Watcher]

How many times do we need to discuss this?

I hope this doesn't start a political fire like all the other threads on this subject!

[PetSounds66]

It's a pity Fox doesn't see the potential ratings boost having Laurie Dhue in HD...:sure:

[Nazcar]

How many times do we need to discuss this?

I hope this doesn't start a political fire like all the other threads on this subject!

I know, that's why I asked to please stay on subject. I wanted to do a search but couldn't seem to find a search option for this board... ??

Thanks for the input and the welcome :)

UPDATE... found the search, sometimes i just don't know how things get overlooked... i looked around for 5 minutes last time but found it in 5 seconds after I typed that lol

[Nazcar]

It's a pity Fox doesn't see the potential ratings boost having Laurie Dhue in HD...:sure:

Right ON:p

[Carl Spock]

Fox is the best about this, as mentioned in an old thread title. I can't remember what it was I was watching on Fox News last night - maybe it was O'Reilly - but there were two beautiful blond babes discussing serious policy matters with the host. Beats the pants off of Bill Bennett or James Carville anyday.

[Mocco71]

No, we don't have anymore of an idea of when FNC HD is coming today as the guy who posted asking about it yesterday or the day before that or the day before that.

I don't know how accurate the info was, but in one of the other threads someone said Q3 of this year.

Anyone know an easy way to see how many Fox News threads have been started and how many were locked?!?! I can remember approx 4 or 5 for sure. Thankfully this one has started out clean.

By the way, I know someone said Q3 in the other thread, but that seems a bit far out considering all of the revamping they have done with their sets. Perhaps they fear the fall out of seeing Greta's botched plastic surgery in HD.

[TANK]

It's a pity Fox doesn't see the potential ratings boost having Laurie Dhue in HD...:sure:


And Karl Rove in HD should reduce the ratings :lol:

[Indiana627]

And Karl Rove in HD should reduce the ratings :lol:
That's probably why the Larry King show hasn't gone HD either. :lol:

[ralphfurley]

Ive mentioned before that FOX -west palm beach, shows FOX NEWS SUNDAY in HD. Which is proof that the Washington DC studio (home to SPECIAL REPORT WITH BRIT HUME) is HD ready. I'd bet that the revamped FOX AND FRIENDS and FOX REPORT are HD ready. I thought FNC may flip the switch today (Super Tuesday) to show off their election set---very high tech.

[packfan909]

Ive mentioned before that FOX -west palm beach, shows FOX NEWS SUNDAY in HD. Which is proof that the Washington DC studio (home to SPECIAL REPORT WITH BRIT HUME) is HD ready. I'd bet that the revamped FOX AND FRIENDS and FOX REPORT are HD ready. I thought FNC may flip the switch today (Super Tuesday) to show off their election set---very high tech.

Just as with a lot of FOX's reality shows, it is possible that this show is actually Anamorphic LB Crop of 480p content. I have watched Fox News Sunday and it sure seems to me that the content is not 720p or 1080i.

Does anyone else feel the same way? If this is the case, then the set is not setup with HD cameras.

pf

[Indiana627]

Just as with a lot of FOX's reality shows, it is possible that this show is actually Anamorphic LB Crop of 480p content. I have watched Fox News Sunday and it sure seems to me that the content is not 720p or 1080i.
I've seen that show a few times on my FOX affiliate and it definitely looks like non-HD 480p. It's been awhile though since I've seen it.

[tcusta00]

I'd bet that the revamped FOX AND FRIENDS and FOX REPORT are HD ready.

I think I recall Steve, Gretchen and Brian from F&F saying that the new set was HD ready when they moved to it late last year. But I could be inhaling the propaganda fumes too. :lol:

[Indiana627]

But I could be inhaling the propaganda fumes too. :lol:
Here we go...

Please keep all personal feelings about FNC and all other news channels out of this thread. Please keep this simply a thread about when FNC will go HD. There's been too many other threads that have been closed because comments like that snowball into a huge fight.

[okbyme]

On Fox & Friends last week, maybe Thur. or Fri, Steve Doocy said it would be soon. Geraldo was the guest and commented about the show being in HD. Steve D. said that it wasn't in HD yet, but that it would be in HD soon, very soon.

I read somewhere else that it may go HD in March.

[tcusta00]

Here we go...

Please keep all personal feelings about FNC and all other news channels out of this thread. Please keep this simply a thread about when FNC will go HD. There's been too many other threads that have been closed because comments like that snowball into a huge fight.

I was KIDDING, trying to bring some levity, hence the :lol:

I wouldn't be watching the channel if I didn't agree with it. In fact I'm watching FBN right now, for the record.

Jeez, lighten up, people!!

[raoul5788]

It's a pity Fox doesn't see the potential ratings boost having Laurie Dhue in HD...:sure:

Maybe they see the ratings loss potential of having Ann Coulter in hd. Yuck!

[Jeremy W]

Just as with a lot of FOX's reality shows, it is possible that this show is actually Anamorphic LB Crop of 480p content.
It's not an "anamorphic LB crop of 480p content" but it is 480i widescreen.

[Indiana627]

I was KIDDING, trying to bring some levity, hence the :lol:

I wouldn't be watching the channel if I didn't agree with it. In fact I'm watching FBN right now, for the record.

Jeez, lighten up, people!!
Sorry, but that's how the all out wars get started on this topic.

[tcusta00]

Sorry, but that's how the all out wars get started on this topic.

Okay, sorry, my bad.

[stogie5150]

It's not an "anamorphic LB crop of 480p content" but it is 480i widescreen.


Did you check it with TSReader? If you haven't I will this Sunday and let the board know, if y'all want me to. :)

[Jeremy W]

Did you check it with TSReader? If you haven't I will this Sunday and let the board know, if y'all want me to. :)
What exactly do you think TSReader will tell you? It'll say it's a 720p signal, somewhere around 10-15mbps. The exact same signal your affiliate is sending out 24x7x365.

[packfan909]

It's not an "anamorphic LB crop of 480p content" but it is 480i widescreen.


I knew as I typed that it was incorrect. :grin:

Thanks for setting that straight.

pf

[packfan909]

What exactly do you think TSReader will tell you? It'll say it's a 720p signal, somewhere around 10-15mbps. The exact same signal your affiliate is sending out 24x7x365.

Even if FOX is upscaling some of its content. I think it is a lot better than showing pilar boxes.

pf

[Jeremy W]

Even if FOX is upscaling some of its content. I think it is a lot better than showing pilar boxes.
I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, 16:9 SD is obviously better than 4:3 SD. However, 16:9 SD could lead to complacency, with people thinking it's "good enough" and skimping on true HD. The difference between 4:3 SD and 16:9 HD is completely obvious, but the difference between a good 16:9 SD upconvert and true 16:9 HD is much less obvious. Most people believe that Fox's 16:9 SD programming is actually HD.

[packfan909]

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, 16:9 SD is obviously better than 4:3 SD. However, 16:9 SD could lead to complacency, with people thinking it's "good enough" and skimping on true HD. The difference between 4:3 SD and 16:9 HD is completely obvious, but the difference between a good 16:9 SD upconvert and true 16:9 HD is much less obvious.

I can see that side. It is really hard to tell when you just use 16:9 SD...where it is almost annoying is when you mix SD and HD on the same program. NBC golf coverage and local news where studio cams are HD and remote cams are SD. You can DEFINITELY tell the differences.

pf

[bluemoose]

:confused: I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, 16:9 SD is obviously better than 4:3 SD. However, 16:9 SD could lead to complacency, with people thinking it's "good enough" and skimping on true HD. The difference between 4:3 SD and 16:9 HD is completely obvious, but the difference between a good 16:9 SD upconvert and true 16:9 HD is much less obvious. Most people believe that Fox's 16:9 SD programming is actually HD.

Fox should really go HD quickly. I wonder why they haven't done it yet...
(money or personnel problems?)

I watched nothing but CNN HD last night. The HD picture(including the graphics)
was simply amazing.... (even when I project it to 133-inch) To be honest, I
don't care rat's [rear end] about politics or the election, but I was just mesmerized
by the HD picture.... then CNN HD switched coverage to SD picture with big
"HD" on either side, soe I went to sleep.(yeah, right... I popped a Japanese
Blu-ray porn movie into my PS3) Come to think of it, I rarely watch anything
unless it's in HD... heck, I'll even watch infomercials if they are shot in HD... :D

[Mocco71]

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, 16:9 SD is obviously better than 4:3 SD. However, 16:9 SD could lead to complacency, with people thinking it's "good enough" and skimping on true HD. The difference between 4:3 SD and 16:9 HD is completely obvious, but the difference between a good 16:9 SD upconvert and true 16:9 HD is much less obvious. Most people believe that Fox's 16:9 SD programming is actually HD.

I agree. A similar discussion was had regarding the Austrialian Open Tennis on ESPN2 and the Tennis Channel. It was 16:9 SD and looked good and people raved about it. However, it could have been better!

[Carl Spock]

Within a few years this won't be an issue. It still costs a goodly amount to switch over to HDTV. But as the price of equipment comes down and HD becomes the standard, EDTV, which is what we are talking about here, will become unnecessary.

[bluemoose]

Within a few years this won't be an issue. It still costs a goodly amount to switch over to HDTV. But as the price of equipment comes down and HD becomes the standard, EDTV, which is what we are talking about here, will become unnecessary.

Wait a minute.... I'm sure Fox can get a tax break for converting to HD. At the
very least, they can write it off as business expenses.

In addition, I don't think Fox can afford not to upgrade to HD as soon as possible.
HD news programming brings in a lot more advertising dollars... (according to
what I read last month)

[tcusta00]

Wait a minute.... I'm sure Fox can get a tax break for converting to HD. At the
very least, they can write it off as business expenses.

In addition, I don't think Fox can afford not to upgrade to HD as soon as possible.
HD news programming brings in a lot more advertising dollars... (according to
what I read last month)

Plus Fox has the #1 cable morning show and O'Reilly raking it in hand over fist... and Rupert Murdoch's deep pockets too! I'm sure money isn't the holdup, but I could be wrong...

[Indiana627]

I don't think Fox can afford not to upgrade to HD as soon as possible.
Quote from an October 2007 article with Greg Ahlquist, senior network director and project manager of the digital newsroom integration for FNC and FBN:

With FBN up and running in HD, News Corp. has begun exploring doing HD at FOX News, he said. “We are full speed ahead. It’s tough living in both worlds. I don’t think it is an opportunity to pause,” Ahlquist said.

They are definitely working on FNC HD.

http://broadcastengineering.com/newsrooms/news-corp-fox-business-hd20071019/

[techdimwit]

Just as with a lot of FOX's reality shows, it is possible that this show is actually Anamorphic LB Crop of 480p content.

A tad off-topic from FNC but this post made me wonder. We're watching American Idol on Fox in HD (OTA) for the first time and the picture is spectacular. If it's not the real deal HD-wise, they have me fooled. The picture is as good as anything I've seen on FoodHD, DiscoveryHD or any like that.

[paule123]

It's not an "anamorphic LB crop of 480p content" but it is 480i widescreen.

Correct. It's easy for me to discern this on my 50" 1080p plasma. Fox News Sunday ain't HD.

I'd like to know why Fox doesn't use FBNHD for simulcast of some of the more popular shows. For example, they show infomercials on FBNHD Saturday morning when they could be showing the first-run Saturday morning money programs on FNC (Forbes on Fox, Cashin' In, etc.). But I suppose that would be "splitting" one revenue source instead of "adding" the infomercial revenue in the same time slot. :rolleyes:

[Jeremy W]

A tad off-topic from FNC but this post made me wonder. We're watching American Idol on Fox in HD (OTA) for the first time and the picture is spectacular. If it's not the read deal HD-wise, they have me fooled. The picture is as good as anything I've seen on FoodHD, DiscoveryHD or any like that.
American Idol is the sole exception. It is shot in 720p HD.

[cartrivision]

A tad off-topic from FNC but this post made me wonder. We're watching American Idol on Fox in HD (OTA) for the first time and the picture is spectacular. If it's not the read deal HD-wise, they have me fooled. The picture is as good as anything I've seen on FoodHD, DiscoveryHD or any like that.

The PQ on DirecTV's feed of the Los Angeles FOX local went to crap a few weeks ago. Now with every jump cut between cameras, the picture pixelates. The same defect isn't present on the OTA feed. This started hapening around the time of the reported moving around of locals on the transponders a few weeks ago, but I don't know if it is related. Didn't notice it on the Superbowl broadcast but it has been present on last few week's American Idol broadcasts.

[bwaldron]

I'd like to know why Fox doesn't use FBNHD for simulcast of some of the more popular shows. For example, they show infomercials on FBNHD Saturday morning when they could be showing the first-run Saturday morning money programs on FNC (Forbes on Fox, Cashin' In, etc.). But I suppose that would be "splitting" one revenue source instead of "adding" the infomercial revenue in the same time slot. :rolleyes:

I think you answered your own question. ;)

[ghostdog]

I think we get a new thread asking about FNC HD everyday.

As we should;)

[n3ntj]

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[homebase]

I'm jumping in here. Any word on when this long time D* subscriber can finally watch Jamie Colby in HD ? :D

[Jeremy W]

Any word
No.

[bwaldron]

No.

No is a word ;)

[Wisegoat]

The PQ on DirecTV's feed of the Los Angeles FOX local went to crap a few weeks ago. Now with every jump cut between cameras, the picture pixelates. The same defect isn't present on the OTA feed. This started hapening around the time of the reported moving around of locals on the transponders a few weeks ago, but I don't know if it is related. Didn't notice it on the Superbowl broadcast but it has been present on last few week's American Idol broadcasts.

Haven't noticed that on my end. I am in SoCal and I watch live TV off OTA and record the SAT version. I have not noticed any pixelization or motion blur in Amercian Idol (which I am forced to watch by the wife).

I have a 5 year old Sony CRT Rear Projection and use DVI>HDMI cable.

[jdspencer]

I have noticed that the last several days the PQ of the studio pictures on FNC are quite a bit more vibrant. Could this be evidence that they have HD quality cameras and are ramping up for an HD launch?

[bruinfever]

It's a pity Fox doesn't see the potential ratings boost having Laurie Dhue in HD...:sure:

If its any consolation Laurie Dhue has left Fox News about two weeks ago because they couldn't agree on a new contract. She deserves to go somewhere where they'll show her in HD anyways!!:nono2:

[Steve Rhodes]

I have noticed that the last several days the PQ of the studio pictures on FNC are quite a bit more vibrant. Could this be evidence that they have HD quality cameras and are ramping up for an HD launch?

I sure hope so, since during the presidental season, I find myself flipping between 360 and 202 all of the time. I wish the picture quality was the same.

[gizzorge]

I sure hope so, since during the presidental season, I find myself flipping between 360 and 202 all of the time. I wish the picture quality was the same.

I did the same thing at the beginning of the political season. I started watching 202 the entire time a few weeks into it. The PQ is just better. I like that.

[Indiana627]

From Swanni:

"Time Warner says... By the end of April... Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island will offer 50 high-def channels... Fox News HD."

I wouldn't say this qualifies as proof that Fox News HD is imminent, but it is another piece of evidence.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/tw040308.htm

[JimH]

I saw a posting on the Time Warner website today that said that Time Warner is expanding their HD channels in the NYC area by the end of April. It listed the channels they would be adding and Fox News HD was on the list. Does Time Warner know something we don't?

[wmj5]

I haven't watched fnc in about 4 months or more except to check to see if they have gone hd or not, you talk about rupert murdoch, from what I hear he don't call the shots for fnc anymore, they are supposed to be #1 but I sure can't understand what their holdup is for hd, I just can't believe it is $$$$$.

[Indiana627]

I saw a posting on the Time Warner website today that said that Time Warner is expanding their HD channels in the NYC area by the end of April. It listed the channels they would be adding and Fox News HD was on the list. Does Time Warner know something we don't?
Please see the post immediately above yours.

[mbuser]

A couple of days ago the morning show people were talking about problems with Botox, and they said "when we go HD". That's the first on-air mention of HD that I've heard, and would seem to indicate the HD switch for Fox News is imminent. Hope so.

[tcusta00]

A couple of days ago the morning show people were talking about problems with Botox, and they said "when we go HD". That's the first on-air mention of HD that I've heard, and would seem to indicate the HD switch for Fox News is imminent. Hope so.

I heard them make a comment like that a few months ago. <sigh> Oh well, it will come eventually I suppose.

[bruinfever]

I find it rather pathetic that the #1 news channel on cable has taken so long to move to HD :nono2:

[tcusta00]

Yeah, it is rather surprising that it's taken them this long.

[Steve Mehs]

I saw a posting on the Time Warner website today that said that Time Warner is expanding their HD channels in the NYC area by the end of April. It listed the channels they would be adding and Fox News HD was on the list. Does Time Warner know something we don't?


Sweet! Hopefully Fox News HD and Fox Business News HD make their way over to Time Warner in Rochester.

[n3ntj]

Hopefully to D*, too.. (FBN HD is already on D*).

[durl]

I find it rather pathetic that the #1 news channel on cable has taken so long to move to HD :nono2:

I've wondered if they simply don't see it as a pressing matter. They're #1 so people are watching and that's all that matters to advertisers. Survivor still did extremely well in the ratings but it wasn't HD. People watched for content, not the PQ. Fox stepped up to the plate when it came to NFL coverage because, we have to assume, demand for football in HD was extremely strong. I may be speaking out of ignorance here but I can't help but think that the demand for news in HD is not nearly as strong as it was for sports.

I'm not saying that they would view HD as a "gimmick" but when you're doing well in the ratings, is it necessary? Just a thought.

[Jeremy W]

I may be speaking out of ignorance here but I can't help but think that the demand for news in HD is not nearly as strong as it was for sports.
If the demand wasn't strong for news in HD, I don't think we'd be seeing so many local stations going HD with their newscasts. The demand is obviously there.

[Herdfan]

^^^

I would probably agree with you that HD news would not be the draw that the NFL in HD would be, but I have to admit that I found myself watching CNNHD for election coverage because the graphics were so much better. And I hate CNN.

If FOX News wants me to watch election coverage, they need to be in HD.

[Hdhead]

^^^

I would probably agree with you that HD news would not be the draw that the NFL in HD would be, but I have to admit that I found myself watching CNNHD for election coverage because the graphics were so much better. And I hate CNN.

If FOX News wants me to watch election coverage, they need to be in HD.

Same here, I just can't watch SD anymore even though I prefer FOX. There is one benefit. Campbell Brown is much easier on the eyes than Bill O'Rielly.:eek2:

[Gus]

The news shots of the FNC will still be mostly SD I expect, and that is probably why they haven't made the change any sooner, but they may not really understand why we watch F & F...the babes first and the brand of political commentary second...I don't know though maybe they do understand because they kept the coffee table short on their new set.

F&F First is the real gas these days with Alyson and Brian and sometimes Alyson and Steve as the only persons on the set...it is a hoot. I for one miss the Texas Gal on main F&F though...Gretchen is not bad though, just a bit too intense and she wants to argue with Brian a bit too much which dampens his silly humor a bit.

Oops, I may have strayed.

[mirwin101]

F&F First is the real gas these days with Alyson and Brian and sometimes Alyson and Steve as the only persons on the set...it is a hoot. I for one miss the Texas Gal on main F&F though...Gretchen is not bad though, just a bit too intense and she wants to argue with Brian a bit too much which dampens his silly humor a bit.

Oops, I may have strayed.

I stopped watching F&F soon after they dumped ED for Gretchen. Kiran leaving for CNN was the final straw. :)

[bruinfever]

I have been really skeptical about Fox News HD coming since I have seen no promotions whatsoever about it but here's some more official news (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/10/time-warner-cable-bringing-fox-news-hd-to-brooklyn-queens-ny/)from Engadget HD which shows an actual channel number assgined for FNC HD for Time Warner Cable..

[Araxen]

May 1st on Timer/Warner according to Engadget, so I assume we'll get it around that date. I doubt Fox would give them any sort of exclusive deal.

[Jeremy W]

May 1st on Timer/Warner according to Engadget, so I assume we'll get it around that date.
D11 is supposedly going to start sending down channels to us on April 30th, so it's possible. But we won't see any new HD channels until D11 is up and running.

[inkahauts]

If the demand wasn't strong for news in HD, I don't think we'd be seeing so many local stations going HD with their newscasts. The demand is obviously there.

Agreed... I used to watch my local NBC news all the time. I haven't watched it since the other channels started going HD 3 years ago, and I don't expect to be watching it again till it goes HD in 2011 or so....

[Mocco71]

D11 is supposedly going to start sending down channels to us on April 30th, so it's possible. But we won't see any new HD channels until D11 is up and running.

I may not fully understand the D11 impact, but is D*'s current bandwidth at maximum capacity that they wouldn't be able to absorb the space of one additional channel? Its not a big deal to me if they are and we have to wait a few days or weeks for D11 to light up, but I have a hard time understanding they don't have room for one more channel.

[Jeremy W]

is D*'s current bandwidth at maximum capacity that they wouldn't be able to absorb the space of one additional channel?
I believe that to be the case, yes.

[bwaldron]

...but I have a hard time understanding they don't have room for one more channel.

That line of thinking is how we got progressively worse picture quality with the MPEG2 birds. I don't have any knowledge of how "full" D10 is, but if it is at capacity I personally would prefer that they wait to add new channels rather than increase compression on current ones.

[juventuz]

I've read that D10 still has the capabilities to put out another 1 or 2 national HD channels.

[Indiana627]

That line of thinking is how we got progressively worse picture quality with the MPEG2 birds. I don't have any knowledge of how "full" D10 is, but if it is at capacity I personally would prefer that they wait to add new channels rather than increase compression on current ones.
+1

[Jeremy W]

I've read that D10 still has the capabilities to put out another 1 or 2 national HD channels.
If that were the case, I believe we would have gotten ABC Family HD last week.

[dwrats_56]

D11 is supposedly going to start sending down channels to us on April 30th, so it's possible. But we won't see any new HD channels until D11 is up and running.


Swammi says, again today, not until September.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/askswanni041108.htm

Q. Do you know why DIRECTV hasn't added WGN HD or the Travel Channel HD? -- Mike W.
Despite the rhetoric, DIRECTV's satellite capacity is nearly maxed out; it really doesn't have the room to add several HD channels now. That will change in September when its new HD satellite is operational.

[Jeremy W]

Swammi says, again today, not until September.
Swammi has absolutely no information aside from the DirecTV press release, which did indeed say September. However, all signs point to new channels being added much sooner than that.

[n3ntj]

He gets his info from DBSTalk, doesn't he?

[Jeremy W]

He gets his info from DBSTalk, doesn't he?
Sometimes. In this case, he didn't.

[haus20]

Suprise suprise, Fox News is now in HD on DirecTV. Quite interesting since there was no promos and nothing in the DirecTV newsletter.

[Stuart Sweet]

Please continue discussion here:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=142768