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amahdi
02-27-08, 02:57 PM
on my HR21? If so - how should I connect the receiver with a phone line if my Vonage adapter is in the other room?

Thanks in dvance.

Earl Bonovich
02-27-08, 02:59 PM
Yep... been running that way for a long time now.

run a phone line to your vonage adapter, and put a splitter on the vonage output.

If you have a cordless phone...

Move your vonage adapter to your HR21, connected it to Port #2 of the HR21... Plug the cordless phone base right there at your TV.

pman_jim
02-27-08, 03:07 PM
I've been getting caller ID through Vonage on my HR20-700 and -100 as well as my H20-600 for over 2 years.

Easiest way to run the phone, disconnect the lines on the outside of the house (as long as you don't use DSL), run the phone line from the Vonage router to your house phone jack, and all the phone jacks in the house will work like normal, so you will just have to plug the HR21 straight into the wall jack. Voila!! You'll have caller ID.

mhayes70
02-27-08, 03:28 PM
I have Vonage and the caller ID on Vonage works better than when I had Verizon with the Directv receivers.

Kansas Zephyr
02-27-08, 04:30 PM
I've been getting caller ID through Vonage on my HR20-700 and -100 as well as my H20-600 for over 2 years.

Easiest way to run the phone, disconnect the lines on the outside of the house (as long as you don't use DSL), run the phone line from the Vonage router to your house phone jack, and all the phone jacks in the house will work like normal, so you will just have to plug the HR21 straight into the wall jack. Voila!! You'll have caller ID.
+1

"Back feeding" the house phone jacks is the way go. You can even use a phone jack "splitter" to both back feed and use that jack for a telephone, etc.

Newer telco interface boxes have only a single modular connector to simply unplug, and you're physically disconnected from the "land-line".

I've also used the power line cordless phone extensions on my D* boxes with no issues.

I get CID with no problems.

ColonelJulius
02-27-08, 06:32 PM
I use ViaTalk as my voip provider and have had zero issues with CID.

bobnielsen
02-27-08, 07:44 PM
When I switched to Vonage, I disconnected the Qwest feed from the terminal block outside my house and fed the Linksys Vonage adapter to the house phone wiring. It works great and caller ID is pretty solid (occasionally a call won't pop-up on the screen but it shows in the log, probably a HR20 problem).

ctaranto
02-27-08, 07:53 PM
When I switched to Vonage from POTS, I disconnected the house wiring from the outside world, and plugged the Vonage box into one of the house phone jacks. This makes all the phone jacks "live" in the house. When I had Dish Network (4+ years ago), CID worked fine.

I have since moved onto a better VoIP provider (VoicePulse), and CID works fine on the HR21-700 I have.

-Craig

DrFever
02-27-08, 08:48 PM
My service is Verizon Voicewing. Has anyone had success 'back-feeding' with Voicewing? I tried, but no success :(

amahdi
02-27-08, 09:15 PM
+1

"Back feeding" the house phone jacks is the way go. You can even use a phone jack "splitter" to both back feed and use that jack for a telephone, etc.

Newer telco interface boxes have only a single modular connector to simply unplug, and you're physically disconnected from the "land-line".

I've also used the power line cordless phone extensions on my D* boxes with no issues.

I get CID with no problems.

Ok - this might sound ignorant but can someone explain how to "backfeed" the house phone jacks in more detail. How do you cut the lines from outside (sounds risky) and then convert the jacks inside the house.

Also - if you do this - can you ever go back to the orginal set up.

Thanks...

Grentz
02-27-08, 10:48 PM
All you have to do is disconnect the line going into your house from the NID (the box on the side of your house where the phone company lines and your internal house lines meet). There should be a user side and a telco side in the box, and you would want to disconnect your line from the user side (some are very easy and just a standard phone jack connection).

Then, inside the house you can just plug the output from the Voip router into one of your phone jacks, in most homes it will "backfeed" the rest of the jacks as phone wiring is really just a bunch of lines all put together (there are no smarts or hubs or anything going on).

Now, this will not work in ALL houses as some are wired using different configurations that would require the input to be where the NID input was (for simple explaination, there are other areas you could input it but lets not get that complex). So really you will just want to try it and see if it works. Most newer homes are wired in a way which allows them to be backfeed from any recepticle easily with nothing more than plugging it in.

Kansas Zephyr
02-28-08, 10:39 AM
+1

The key is finding the "telephone network interface" box.

This is the point where the former Ma Bell meets your house's wiring. It's probably on the outside, or in the garage, etc.

As posted above, there is a telco side and a customer side.

Open the customer side, "modern" NIs have a simple RJ-11 modular connector (like on a normal phone cord) that feeds the telco to your wiring.

Just unplug it, and you are done.

Then by plugging your VoIP phone line into any wall jack, it "back feeds" the wiring for the rest of the house.

This assumes that one only had a single land line, so all of the home's jacks will become "hot" on your VoIP service.

amahdi
03-08-08, 09:56 AM
Good idea about moving my vonage adapter near my HR21 but my problem is the internet connection to the vonage adapter is coming from the other room so I can't move the vonage adapter. If i could, that would have been the best way. Not sure how I can move the adapter if the internet connection is in the other room? If you have nay suggestions I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Yep... been running that way for a long time now.

run a phone line to your vonage adapter, and put a splitter on the vonage output.

If you have a cordless phone...

Move your vonage adapter to your HR21, connected it to Port #2 of the HR21... Plug the cordless phone base right there at your TV.

amahdi
03-08-08, 09:58 AM
I actually did that - opened the telco box and disconnected the two phone plugs. THen I took my vonage adapetr and ran a line from it to a phone jack. But my other jacks are not giving any phone signal. Maybe its something to do with the house wiring..... Not sure what else I can do....


+1

The key is finding the "telephone network interface" box.

This is the point where the former Ma Bell meets your house's wiring. It's probably on the outside, or in the garage, etc.

As posted above, there is a telco side and a customer side.

Open the customer side, "modern" NIs have a simple RJ-11 modular connector (like on a normal phone cord) that feeds the telco to your wiring.

Just unplug it, and you are done.

Then by plugging your VoIP phone line into any wall jack, it "back feeds" the wiring for the rest of the house.

This assumes that one only had a single land line, so all of the home's jacks will become "hot" on your VoIP service.

spartanstew
03-08-08, 10:33 AM
I have Verizon FIOS (Internet and previously phone) and can't figure it out. Opending all the Verizon boxes reveals no telephone jacks to unplug.