View Full Version : What kinds of videos are you watching on your HR20/HR21??
I'm just curious...I don't have any/many videos on my desktop to stream to my HR20/HR21, so I'm wondering what you're all watching. Home videos? Downloads (if so, from where? Do iTunes videos, Amazon Unbox, Movielink movies work??) Video podcasts?
Just curious...
I don't believe anything with DRM will work.
jmschnur
03-03-08, 04:51 PM
home videos made with my camcorder
Supervolcano
03-03-08, 05:02 PM
Adult movies downloaded from some very safe websites ;)
They look better on my 26" HDTV than my 15" laptop screen.
bgullicksen
03-03-08, 05:17 PM
Adult movies downloaded from some very safe websites ;)
They look better on my 26" HDTV than my 15" laptop screen.
Isn't that what we all are doing! :) ... and a few home movies of the family.
Bill
jahgreen
03-03-08, 06:24 PM
Adult movies downloaded from some very safe websites ;)
They look better on my 26" HDTV than my 15" laptop screen.
You found some in HD? :D
Indiana627
03-04-08, 06:11 AM
home videos made with my camcorder
What format are they in? Mine download to my PC as .avi but they have a red X next to them when I try to play them from my HR20.
houskamp
03-04-08, 06:33 AM
home videos made with my camcorder
What format are they in? Mine download to my PC as .avi but they have a red X next to them when I try to play them from my HR20.
To OP: None.. same problem as Indiana627.. and not enough power in server for transcoding and I'm not going to reencode them...
Watched a downloaded episode of Bill Maher last night. Really worked well. Have watched a couple Youtube videos, thanks to help from some nice members here getting it to work. Quality of the Youtube videos wasn't so great but regular videos on my hard drive play nicely. I don't have a camcorder but do have a webcam. Maybe my cats would be willing to be test subjects :)
Supervolcano
03-04-08, 06:43 AM
You found some in HD? :D
Ummm, Yes I have!! :D
But I don't think the HR20 is capable of doing 1080i for mediashare. :(
Or at least not yet anyways. :eek2:
Or maybe my PC just isn't fast enough to transcode it, so TVersity is chopping it's bitrate? :confused:
All I know is it looks bigger on 26" than 15" :lol:
gregchak
03-04-08, 06:49 AM
I have setup my home movies and have ripped a few DVD's just to test it out. My CPU isn't strong enough to transcode so the movies were just done to test. I can't wait for when/if they enable the HR2x to accept H.264. Then I'll make a move towards backing up my DVD collection. Until then, I'm mainly using it for home movies. I render movies at DVD quality and then my HR20 upconverts it nicely.
Supervolcano
03-04-08, 06:52 AM
What format are they in? Mine download to my PC as .avi but they have a red X next to them when I try to play them from my HR20.
Sorry, MPEG2 is currently the only format the HR20 can accept.
To watch anything else right now, you'll need a media serving software (like TVersity) that can transcode (meaning reencode them "on the fly") your videos into a format the HR20 can accept ... Or reencode it yourself to MPEG2.
WMP11 isn't capable of transcoding videos.
bhelton71
03-04-08, 07:00 AM
I did use Stage6 until it was shutdown
National Geo Video Shorts
http://podcast.nationalgeographic.com/ng-video-shorts/
Cranky Geeks
http://rssnewsapps.ziffdavis.com/audioblogs/crankygeeks/cg.h.264.xml
Occassional YouTube videos - they look pretty bad compared to the h264 feeds
And some Shoutcast TV streams (by way of VLC)
http://www.sonic-lux.de/home/projekte/software/shoutcast_tv_lists/web/
And yes Supervolcano - they do have adult programming :D
Obviously some movies - kind of an on-demand setup. But I have been hesistant to commit on archiving the movies. I like the idea of a single interface for TV and all other media - but without shuttle controls and bookmarking its very hard to watch a full length movie. So if Hauppauge can bring a component capture device to market - I may go the other way - hang the HR20 off of a pc and let the pc be the 'entertainment hub'. Doesn't look that hard to control the HR20 from RS232-->USB.
trevorst
03-05-08, 03:45 AM
I did use Stage6 until it was shutdown
Obviously some movies - kind of an on-demand setup. But I have been hesistant to commit on archiving the movies. I like the idea of a single interface for TV and all other media - but without shuttle controls and bookmarking its very hard to watch a full length movie. So if Hauppauge can bring a component capture device to market - I may go the other way - hang the HR20 off of a pc and let the pc be the 'entertainment hub'. Doesn't look that hard to control the HR20 from RS232-->USB.
You may want to checkout the forums for Sagetv, Beyondtv etc. They may have the info you need for control of the HR.
Everything from home videos, tv shows, movies everything I can i have about 500-600 GB of movies i can watch anything I want through tversity.
Sorry, MPEG2 is currently the only format the HR20 can accept.
To watch anything else right now, you'll need a media serving software (like TVersity) that can transcode (meaning reencode them "on the fly") your videos into a format the HR20 can accept ... Or reencode it yourself to MPEG2.
WMP11 isn't capable of transcoding videos.
yeah this is too bad. Any info on when or if this will be addressed? I made some AVI files on my digital camera I would like to watch. Now I do it with my PS3.
The HR20 seems to be doing pictures better though. I still think it shoudl show subfolders seperately instead of everything in one area.
What does the GUI for playback look like? Could anyone post a pic of it?
Earl Bonovich
03-05-08, 08:54 AM
What does the GUI for playback look like? Could anyone post a pic of it?
It is the same playback as Media Share (the photos/music).
You select the video's from the similar menu structure, and then playback starts.
Depending on your media server, you may or may not have any trickplay control.
CrazyforYeshua
03-05-08, 09:12 AM
I have everything set up for networking on my HR20. I can play music, look at pics on it, and it looks good.
I have been looking for the how-to on getting videos on it, I have some on my pc I wanna see if I can watch.
I have TVersity downloaded,so where is the thread on how to get it to work? (If there is one).
Thanks!
say-what
03-05-08, 09:22 AM
I've only been able to play a video I made with my camera and even then, I had to recode it as mpeg-2 with a separate utility before it would play. Weird thing is it plays fine on the HR20's but not the HR21..... go figure.
The unconverted video plays fine on my PS3, which I'm going to use for media share in the future anyway, but I still test the HR2x with each update.
bonscott87
03-05-08, 10:24 AM
I simply use Miro on my PC. http://www.getmiro.com/
I then subscribe to several online TV shows (like Tom Green's show or the many at Revision 3) as well as several video podcasts. The NASA HD monthly updates are awesome.
Anyway, Miro just puts the videos on my shared drive and Tversity shares them out to the HR20. Only manual thing on my part is that i need to delete the ones I watch on the HR20 later thru Miro.
Having said that, I just got a new monitor for my computer, 22" widescreen so I've actually taken to watching my video on my computer vs. the TV. Mostly because I have no FFW or RRW of videos on the HR20 vs. just watching in the Miro player.
oldcrooner
03-05-08, 11:30 AM
A question from an old man who only understands such things marginally...am I correct in thinking that it is possible (using TVersity) to stream LIVE TV stations such as can be seen on such websites as channelking.com, tvovernet.com etc. to the HR21 or does that require another setup? If so, how is it done? My HR21 is networked...I can view photos and listen to music files...but I have TVersity installed and could never understand how it works. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Tnx! :)
deltafowler
03-05-08, 07:25 PM
I'm watching downloaded movies.
Recent titles include movies about a guy who is a legend, a psycho who flips coins, a missing child, a covertly funded war in the 80's, a lawyer who developed conscious, a college dropout who moved North, a pregnant teenager, a really mean oil man, a westerner making sure he didn't miss a train to a town in Arizona, an entire month of darkness, a coward who shot an outlaw, and a girl riding a polar bear.
Where do I get them?
From a file-sharing system that's been in existence longer than the world wide web has been. ;)
bobnielsen
03-05-08, 10:32 PM
I have downloaded several old (copyright expired) movies from archive.org (http://www.archive.org/details/feature_films). I also watch a number of my DVDs which I have ripped and converted to a transport stream with MPEG Streamclip.
It is the same playback as Media Share (the photos/music).
You select the video's from the similar menu structure, and then playback starts.
Depending on your media server, you may or may not have any trickplay control.
Do you know if they intend to have trick play via the normal remote working with Media Share? It works via the PS3 controls when I use my PS3 for the media share client. So I would hope the HR2x would get to that level of capability. Can we assume that is the ultimate goal? I hope so. That is why I always try it out on the HR20 with each new CE. But if I have company over and I want to show them the real show from my vacation (350 photos, many panoramics I made from some of them, and several 30 second AVI videos I took with my Minolta 6Meg digital camera) I use my PS3. I would hope to be able to do all that on the HR20.
rudeney
03-06-08, 09:56 AM
What format are they in? Mine download to my PC as .avi but they have a red X next to them when I try to play them from my HR20.
The AVI’s downloaded directly from your camcorder will use the codec native to the camera (presumably DV). DV does use some compression, but not as much as MPEG. For example, one second of DV video is about 4 megabytes. DVD-quality MPEG2 is about 1 megabyte. I use Pinnacle Studio to edit my home movies. I use its import function to get the video from my camcorder and have it transcode on the fly in DVD-compatible MPEG format. The resulting MPG file is readily playable on my HR20’s.
Draconis
03-06-08, 02:02 PM
The question is more of a, "What am I NOT playing?"
Funny commercials, animated shorts, a TV episode I forgot to set a series link for but downloaded online, home videos. You name it.
When I find something humorous that I want to share with the family it is easier to play it on the HR20 instead of having them cram into the office to see it.
Thanks to TVersity’s transcoding capabilities I am able to play most of the video files I have on my PC. The only files I am having issues with are files that use the AC3 audio CODEC, but that is a TVersity issue and not an HR20-700 issue.
bhelton71
03-06-08, 02:23 PM
The question is more of a, "What am I NOT playing?"
Funny commercials, animated shorts, a TV episode I forgot to set a series link for but downloaded online, home videos. You name it.
When I find something humorous that I want to share with the family it is easier to play it on the HR20 instead of having them cram into the office to see it.
Thanks to TVersity’s transcoding capabilities I am able to play most of the video files I have on my PC. The only files I am having issues with are files that use the AC3 audio CODEC, but that is a TVersity issue and not an HR20-700 issue.
Ratara - AC3 should be fine also if you are using TVersity - the only thing needed is an AC3 filter usually. The catch is - any shared 'vob' material - you will have to change the individual transcoding settings to always.
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ac3filter/ac3filter_1_46.exe
Draconis
03-06-08, 02:40 PM
I am using the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack v3.8.0 (http://codecguide.com/) which includes AC3Filter v1.46.
It does not matter is I set AC3 or ffdshow to decode the audio, in the TVersity player and on the HR20 the audio sounds like it is missing an entire audio range and I only get partial audio.
However, the audio is normal when the same file is played in WMP11 or Media Player Classic.
I have been posting this on the TVersity forum in hopes of getting this resolved.
bhelton71
03-06-08, 02:54 PM
I am using the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack v3.8.0 (http://codecguide.com/) which includes AC3Filter v1.46.
It does not matter is I set AC3 or ffdshow to decode the audio, in the TVersity player and on the HR20 the audio sounds like it is missing an entire audio range and I only get partial audio.
However, the audio is normal when the same file is played in WMP11 or Media Player Classic.
I have been posting this on the TVersity forum in hopes of getting this resolved.
Wow - you found a good one - I can honestly say I have never heard that.
It should just split the audio/video take the 6 channel and downmix to 2 in the AC3 filter (as long as AC3 filter is set for 2 channel of course) and that should go into the ffdshow (ffmpeg) encoder. You might try updating your audio driver ??? Beyond that I am out of ideas.
You can pretty much find any episode of most TV shows if you know where to look, but I suspect downloading them may not be legal. If it was legal I'd be downloading episodes of shows that I missed, BBC shows not in the states yet, old tv shows, etc. Of course it's very convenient for home movies. I'm using tversity.
-steve
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