Sixto Report-D11 Status: In Operation July 31, 2008

[mcbeevee]

Parked at 99.217 :D :goodjob:

Is that the final location, or does it still need a small bump to 99.225?

:jump3:

[seltech]

:goodjob: :allthumbs :icon_hroc

[Sixto]

Updated previous post:
DirecTV-11(TLE129)
1 32729U 08013A 08203.60000000 -.00000118 00000-0 00000+0 0 1299
2 32729 000.0350 076.8670 0001892 177.7280 161.9040 01.00273712 1363

NORAD # 32729
COSPAR designator 2008-013-A
Epoch (UTC) 07-21-2008 14:24:00
Orbit # at Epoch 136
Inclination 0.035
RA of A. Node 76.867
Eccentricity 0.0001892
Argument of Perigee 177.728
Revs per day 1.00273712
Period 23h 56m 04s (1436.7 min)
Semi-major axis 42 164 km
Perigee x Apogee 35 778 x 35 794 km
Element number / age 129 / 0 day(s)


Perigee(bottom of orbit) x Apogee(top of orbit) - Target is 35,786 x 35,786 km (Circular)
TLE#129(07-21-2008 14:24:00) 35 778 x 35 794 km (+147.6hours,at 123.9 days, 99.21°)
TLE#128(07-15-2008 10:46:32) 35,785 x 35,787 km (+96.6 hours,at 117.7 days, 100.68°)
TLE#129(07-11-2008 10:11:30) 35,784 x 35,790 km (+22.0 hours,at 113.7 days, 100.73°)
TLE#127(07-10-2008 12:13:58) 35,784 x 35,790 km (+25.1 hours,at 112.8 days, 100.72°)
TLE#126(07-09-2008 11:08:35) 35,784 x 35,790 km (+22.1 hours,at 111.7 days, 100.72°)

Last 5 TLE's above ...

Post #2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1508286#post1508286) has the overview and complete TLE history ...

[LameLefty]

Is that the final location, or does it still need a small bump to 99.225?

:jump3:

It need a little bit of tweaking - the eccentricity isn't entirely damped out from the move, but it's close enough to begin location testing at or around its operational slot. Expect channels soon, I would think. Almost certainly within the next ten days, just as Satelliteracer predicted. :)

[man_rob]

The latest TLE doesn't bear that out. It is forecast to be many miles away and moving at a relative snail's pace. If you look back a few pages, I believe Sixto ran the model out a couple of months at the current course and speed to get to the destination.

You must be like psychic man! ...or not, :D


Anyway, Soon it will be time to break out the ice cream!

http://laurieliberrian.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/festivus-ice-cream.jpg

130 channels this summer!!!

[Matt9876]

Just to recap the last few pages:

If you own a Hxx unit D11 will show up on 99(a) "currently all zeros":)
If you own a HRxx unit D11 will show up on 99(c/a)

(s/b) is a spot beam not the D11 bird.

[jefbal99]

Is that the final location, or does it still need a small bump to 99.225?

:jump3:

Looks like its not quite circular yet, so there may be a bump to 99.225

[LameLefty]

You must be like psychic man! ...or not, :D


Anyway, Soon it will be time to break out the ice cream!

http://laurieliberrian.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/festivus-ice-cream.jpg

130 channels this summer!!!

He's just trolling - just put him on "Ignore" and you'll be able to miss out on lovely "gems" like that. :)

[petergaryr]

Just for fun I checked my HR20-700....and 99(c) is awake here in North Florida. SOON.

[katzeye]

I remember that D10 had issues in between parking and switch on, but does anyone remember the time frame?

[bjamin82]

It should show up on its own... DirecTV may not have sent the signal to the H2x line to have the signal meter for that satellite show up yet...

I see 99a on my H23-600

[LameLefty]

I remember that D10 had issues in between parking and switch on, but does anyone remember the time frame?

It had to do with an issue with one or more particular spotbeams and trying to maximize the use of the satellite and balance the load given that problem. As I recall it delayed full rollout of the national HD channels for a few weeks, but I'm sure Sixto or someone has the detailed timeline handy. Barring any similar problems, D11 should be ready to go much more quickly.

[merchione]

:icon_hroc :icon_hroc YEAH BABY!!!!!!!

[jefbal99]

I remember that D10 had issues in between parking and switch on, but does anyone remember the time frame?

D10 issues were with spot beams and then getting the authorizations set up for the receivers.

No issues at the test spots this time...

[Sixto]

It had to do with an issue with one or more particular spotbeams and trying to maximize the use of the satellite and balance the load given that problem. As I recall it delayed full rollout of the national HD channels for a few weeks, but I'm sure Sixto or someone has the detailed timeline handy. Barring any similar problems, D11 should be ready to go much more quickly.The delay was a software authorization problem. D11 could go "live" 7/30. D11 originally was to go "live" 7-10 days after parked.

[MIAMI1683]

It had to do with an issue with one or more particular spotbeams and trying to maximize the use of the satellite and balance the load given that problem. As I recall it delayed full rollout of the national HD channels for a few weeks, but I'm sure Sixto or someone has the detailed timeline handy. Barring any similar problems, D11 should be ready to go much more quickly.

As usual Lefty you are correct. D10 was delayed but not very much. Now D11 will be lit by next week :D . Hopfully :lol: :lol:

[cforrest]

Murphy's law, D11 will probably go live on 7/30 since I'll be taking an early AM flight to Vegas. Doesn't it always work that way? haha

[katzeye]

The delay was a software authorization problem. D11 could go "live" 7/30. D11 originally was to go "live" 7-10 days after parked.

Ah yes, Wednesday Morning. Always Wednesday.

[n3ntj]

Things are getting exciting.. can't wait for more HD. Crossing my fingers that all goes well with testing and that D11 is put into service very soon.

[msmith]

Murphy's law, D11 will probably go live on 7/30 since I'll be taking an early AM flight to Vegas. Doesn't it always work that way? haha

And I'll be out of town with the church youth group trip.

[hdtvfan0001]

The delay was a software authorization problem. D11 could go "live" 7/30. D11 originally was to go "live" 7-10 days after parked.
Thanks Sixto.

My definition of "live" is seeing reception on transponders with at least 1 or more channel....but that's just me. I still hold to my 8/4/08 guestimate of that activity....but am awaiting the expert information here as always.

[tunce]

Any active contracts with HD channels that you guys know of that will be lit up on D11?

[syphix]

I still hold to my 8/4/08 guestimate of that activity....but am awaiting the expert information here as always.B-b-b-ut 8/4 is a MONDAY....DirecTv has a history of honoring Wednesdays with channel lit-ups.

Peter Gibbons: Let me ask you something. When you come in on Monday, and you're not feelin' real well, does anyone ever say to you, 'Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays'?
Lawrence: No. No, man. S#*%, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.

[katzeye]

Thanks Sixto.

My definition of "live" is seeing reception on transponders with at least 1 or more channel....but that's just me. I still hold to my 8/4/08 guestimate of that activity....but am awaiting the expert information here as always.

I would have to assume for many of us "live" means new channels being turned on.

[Matt9876]

Ah yes, Wednesday Morning. Always Wednesday.

So True !

14 transponders, times 5 HD channels per transponder = 70 HD channels !! :) :)

[hdtvfan0001]

B-b-b-ut 8/4 is a MONDAY....DirecTv has a history of honoring Wednesdays with channel lit-ups.

Today's a Monday. :D

[seern]

A question for someone who is a little confused. :confused:

We are seeing 14 transponders on 99 (a/c). Does this mean there are only 14 conus transponders on D11, or is this just what they are going to currently use?

OK, one more, when the spots go live will we see more then the number of transponders that are currently active on 99 (b/s)?

[Sixto]

Thanks Sixto.

My definition of "live" is seeing reception on transponders with at least 1 or more channel....but that's just me. I still hold to my 8/4/08 guestimate of that activity....but am awaiting the expert information here as always.Yep, agree, for clarity, D11 could start transmitting new national HD channels on 7/30 at 6am. Very likely for 8/6 or 8/13, but certainly possible for 7/30. It all depends on the internal DirecTV timeline. Seems like they may want to beat DISH's 8/1 date for their new channels.

This all does seem to match Satelliteracer's timeline of "end-of-month" (July).

[syphix]

So True !

14 transponders, times 5 HD channels per transponder = 70 HD channels !! :) :)Remember: some of those will probably be used up by HDNet, HDNet Movies, Universal HD, ESPN/ESPN2 HD, TNT-HD, HBO-HD, and SHO-HD moving to D11.

[MIAMI1683]

I would have to assume for many of us "live" means new channels being turned on.

For me live is active transponders and stable. They could "balance the load" between D10 and D11 before they light up any "new" channels. Also local DMA's should start to light up. Whoever D* has carriage agreements with will know shortly about when D11 is going live!

[Sixto]

A question for someone who is a little confused. :confused:

We are seeing 14 transponders on 99 (a/c). Does this mean there are only 14 conus transponders on D11, or is this just what they are going to currently use?

OK, one more, when the spots go live will we see more then the number of transponders that are currently active on 99 (b/s)?14 national transponders is what was expected.

[moonman]

It's official: Boeing turns control of Direct-11....
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html

[syphix]

It's official: Boeing turns control of Direct-11....
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html
Posted four pages ago:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1688773&postcount=4465

Welcome to the festivus, though! :D

[LameLefty]

It's official: Boeing turns control of Direct-11....
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html

Man, we posted that pages and pages ago! :D

[Doug Brott]

It's official: Boeing turns control of Direct-11....
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html

Man, we posted that pages and pages ago! :D

plus it's on the DBSTalk.com home page :)

[merchione]

I would have to assume for many of us "live" means new channels being turned on.


That is correct sir

[hdtvfan0001]

Yep, agree, for clarity, D11 could start transmitting new national HD channels on 7/30 at 6am. Very likely for 8/6 or 8/13, but certainly possible for 7/30.
I was figuring perhaps about 8/4, in time for migrating some of the MPEG2 channels over, as well as perhaps a new local or two - all in time for the Olympics 8/8...but that's just speculation.

I know technically the bird is "live" in terms of its active operation, but I added the view that actual 1 channel transmission or more would demonstrate the business purpose "live" for D11.

In any case...things are actually ahead of schedule.

[Ken984]

Wow a guy tries to get some work done and everything goes nuts. Congratulations DirecTv and Boeing. Thanks to Sixto for doing a masterful job with the news and tech stuff for this massive thread!

Now for more HD!!!

[merchione]

Wow a guy tries to get some work done and everything goes nuts. Congratulations DirecTv and Boeing. Thanks to Sixto for doing a masterful job with the news and tech stuff for this massive thread!

Now for more HD!!!


Yes Sixto Thank You for all the updates and getting us though this launch!

[Greg Alsobrook]

Thanks Sixto!! :goodjob:

[doctor j]

Glad to be part of FESTIVUS!!!!
99 c on in Alabama.

MAYBE Wednesday??!!

Doctor j

[jefbal99]

Thanks Sixto!! :goodjob:

:righton:

[JoeNY72]

I have an H21-200 and as of this morning have all 0's on my 99(a) readings.


Joe

[hdtvfan0001]

So just wondering out loud if we're close to the point of a new D11 thread on "what channels, when" and what future channels....maybe some kind of:

"Now that D11 is in place, what channels?" thread.....just asking...:D

[katzeye]

So just wondering out loud if we're close to the point of a new D11 thread on "what channels, when" and what future channels....maybe some kind of:

"Now that D11 is in place, what channels?" thread.....just asking...:D

I thought smiddy already started a version of that thread
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=132095

Of course the short answer is. "We need all of them"

[mhayes70]

Thanks Sixto!! :goodjob:

:goodjob: Great Job Sixto and all his helpers!!!

[hdtvfan0001]

I thought smiddy already started a version of that thread
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=132095

Of course the short answer is. "We need all of them"
That's only a sorta-kinda thread of channel availability....

I'm talking about

"What Channels are on D11 " sorta-kinda thread...where we can discuss or share what is activated, and perhaps what may be forthcoming.

The other thread is super, but an open inventory of what new HD channels are available, not necessarily which ones we will see.

[LameLefty]

:goodjob: Great Job Sixto and all his helpers!!!

I believe he prefers the term "minions" . . . :lol:

[katzeye]

That's only a sorta-kinda thread of channel availability....

I'm talking about

"What Channels are on D11 " sorta-kinda thread...where we can discuss or share what is activated, and perhaps what may be forthcoming.

The other thread is super, but an open inventory of what new HD channels are available, not necessarily which ones we will see.

So, does anyone in here have any REAL information?

[hdtvfan0001]

So, does anyone in here have any REAL information?
Sixto. :D LameLefty. :)

...and perhaps some others... :D

[Sixto]

So just wondering out loud if we're close to the point of a new D11 thread on "what channels, when" and what future channels....maybe some kind of:

"Now that D11 is in place, what channels?" thread.....just asking...:DI'll be updating the "DirecTV HD - Current Listing (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1191378#post1191378)" thread soon, hopefully very soon ...

[katzeye]

I'll be updating the "DirecTV HD - Current Listing (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1191378#post1191378)" thread soon, hopefully very soon ...

Oh, now you are just playing with us...
so cruel.

[LameLefty]

Sixto. :D LameLefty. :)

...and perhaps some others... :D

Nah, I just make very informed suppositions based on stuff I know (general spacecraft engineering), past history, or stuff that makes sense in context. Once in a great while I do get tidbits thrown my way from lurkers who really are in a position to know, but not about upcoming new channels.

Other than that, I'm just a regular "outsider." :p

[P Smith]

14 national transponders is what was expected.

So far, no signals in a IF range 250...750 MHz using Slim dish..

[tcusta00]

I'll be updating the "DirecTV HD - Current Listing (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1191378#post1191378)" thread soon, hopefully very soon ...

;) Thread subscription added. :lol:

[JohnJ]

Fairly newbie here and I am amazed at all the detail, work, and info you guys ferret out.

This new satellite is to do two major things for Directv, add National HD capacity and increase Local Channel Offerings. With the new satellite in place will both things happen together or will Directv try and bring up National capacity and work on Locals over time?

Thanks for all that you guys do.

[mauijiminar]

We're all waiting it find out... No one knows...
I don't remember how many days since the last TLE.
Either way, it should be very soon.

What is a TLE?

[TimGoodwin]

I'm getting an 86 on transponder 6 on 99 (c) for a second or so then it goes away.

[syphix]

I'm going to lunch...someone page me if D11 lights up! ;)

[LameLefty]

What is a TLE?

Two Line Element set - a standard format of numbers for describing in detail a spacecraft's trajectory around the earth. These are calculated and published by the U.S. government regularly.

[Paul A]

The latest TLE doesn't bear that out. It is forecast to be many miles away and moving at a relative snail's pace. If you look back a few pages, I believe Sixto ran the model out a couple of months at the current course and speed to get to the destination.


WHATEVER!

[LameLefty]

WHATEVER!

What? Harsh is wrong again about something to do with Directv? Say it's not so! :lol:

[vurbano]

Norfolk DMA 43 HD LIL please D*?

[mcbeevee]

Two Line Element set - a standard format of numbers for describing in detail a spacecraft's trajectory around the earth. These are calculated and published by the U.S. government regularly.
Maybe the TLE definition should be part of Sixto's post #2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1508286&postcount=2), since it has been asked many times in this thread.

:)

[rey_1178]

Fairly newbie here and I am amazed at all the detail, work, and info you guys ferret out.

This new satellite is to do two major things for Directv, add National HD capacity and increase Local Channel Offerings. With the new satellite in place will both things happen together or will Directv try and bring up National capacity and work on Locals over time?

Thanks for all that you guys do.


:welcome_s :newbie:

[merchione]

Norfolk DMA 43 HD LIL please D*?

If my info is correct they will be added

[Sixto]

Maybe the TLE definition should be part of Sixto's post #2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1508286&postcount=2), since it has been asked many times in this thread.

:)It is. The TLE description has been there, right before the data. Will make it more visible. Thx.

[LameLefty]

Maybe the TLE definition should be part of Sixto's post #2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1508286&postcount=2), since it has been asked many times in this thread.

:)

Probably, but if you follow these kinds of threads often, you know pretty much no one (newbies that is) reads the whole thing - they just jump to the last page and take off. :nono2:

[raoul5788]

What? Harsh is wrong again about something to do with Directv? Say it's not so! :lol:

Speaking of Harsh, where is the little ray of sunshine? He hasn't posted since early this morning! I wonder why? :rolleyes:

[Tigerman73]

What? Harsh is wrong again about something to do with Directv? Say it's not so! :lol:


But you don't understand, D* was supposed to have this sat up and running over a year ago. They can't do anything right! :lol:

[hdtvfan0001]

I'll be updating the "DirecTV HD - Current Listing (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1191378#post1191378)" thread soon, hopefully very soon ...

Thanks.

[Tigerman73]

Speaking of Harsh, where is the little ray of sunshine? He hasn't posted since early this morning! I wonder why? :rolleyes:


Since D* is about to spank that E* booty again, he's tucked tail and run. I'm sure given enough time he'll find something negative and be back before you know it. :grin:

[VaJim]

If my info is correct they will be added



..When??:confused: :lol:

[bjamin82]

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet...

http://forums.directv.com/pe/action/forums/displaysinglethread?rootPostID=10420775&returnExpertiseCode=

Not the first post, the reply from the "Tech"

[Inches]

:icon_hroc :icon_hroc YEAH BABY!!!!!!!
Got one!!! If only until the next scan...

[grump]

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet...

http://forums.directv.com/pe/action/forums/displaysinglethread?rootPostID=10420775&returnExpertiseCode=

Not the first post, the reply from the "Tech"

He's not a Directv Tech, just a customer. Probably got those rumors from DBSTalk.

[katzeye]

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet...

http://forums.directv.com/pe/action/forums/displaysinglethread?rootPostID=10420775&returnExpertiseCode=

Not the first post, the reply from the "Tech"

It appears that "texasbrit" is just a fan and not an insider, best I can tell.

[bjamin82]

It appears that "texasbrit" is just a fan and not an insider, best I can tell.


yea... i saw his profile after i posted the link

[braven]

Speaking of Harsh, where is the little ray of sunshine? He hasn't posted since early this morning! I wonder why? :rolleyes:


I'll admit it. That made me giggle.

[John4924]

..When??:confused: :lol:

SOON!

Where is eaglepc??:lol:

[VeniceDre]

Sounds like you guys are finally seeing the wait come to an end .. ;)

I forgot to post, "So I got a haricut this weekend..." :lol:

[man_rob]

SOON!

Where is eaglepc??:lol:

I think we've graduated to
REALLY, REALLY SOON!
now.

[texasbrit]

yea... i saw his profile after i posted the link

Yes, it's me: I am one of the techknow guides at DirecTV forum and you will also see my posts here.
I am just like everyone else, picking up info where I can. satelliteracer's posts on this forum are interesting though, since he is an "insider".

[LameLefty]

I hope we get some solid continuous Tps showing up by tonight but who knows? I am out of the office for work for the remainder of the day. 'Til then, carry on!

And in the immortal words of the great American Beavis, "May we all have Tp for our . . ." er, idiot boxes! :D

http://www.avforums.com/dvdreviews/images/BeavisAndButthead/BeavisS1R1_1.jpg

[Doug Brott]

I think we've graduated to
REALLY, REALLY SOON!
now.

http://www.sizethis.com/s/b/super_smilies037.gif

[bigref]

OK I am confused. I have 2 h20's and only am showing 99a and 99b?

[hdtvfan0001]

I hope we get some solid continuous Tps showing up by tonight but who knows? I am out of the office for work for the remainder of the day. 'Til then, carry on!

And in the immortal words of the great American Beavis, "May we all have Tp for our . . ." er, idiot boxes! :D

http://www.avforums.com/dvdreviews/images/BeavisAndButthead/BeavisS1R1_1.jpg
Yeah...yeah...yeah...thats it...yeah...yeah (in beavis voice)...

[jefbal99]

I think we've graduated to
REALLY, REALLY SOON!
now.

and when we see a solid TP or two will we then graduate to a third really?

[katzeye]

I hope we get some solid continuous Tps showing up by tonight but who knows? I am out of the office for work for the remainder of the day. 'Til then, carry on!

And in the immortal words of the great American Beavis, "May we all have Tp for our . . ." er, idiot boxes! :D

http://www.avforums.com/dvdreviews/images/BeavisAndButthead/BeavisS1R1_1.jpg


!rolling

[jefbal99]

OK I am confused. I have 2 h20's and only am showing 99a and 99b?

99a is D11

on the HR2Xs its 99s and 99c
on the H2Xs its 99b and 99a

[hdtvfan0001]

OK I am confused. I have 2 h20's and only am showing 99a and 99b?
99a on your H20 is comparible to 99(c) on the HRx series of DVR's for the D11 transponder range...

[FHSPSU67]

SOON!

Where is eaglepc??:lol:
Eagle PC flew in for a short visit earlier this morning:)

[jared52]

OK I am confused. I have 2 h20's and only am showing 99a and 99b?

That's what you want to see on the H2x's. 99(a) is 99(c) on the HR2x's I think.

EDIT: Wow, I was slow!

[hdtvfan0001]

It is notable that D10's handover was never formally announced by Boeing.
But then...neither was Echostar 2 by its manufacturer... :D

[syphix]

Any insiders (Satelliteracer?) have knowledge of a "test channel", like what we had with D10?

[hdtvfan0001]

Got one!!! If only until the next scan...
Curious how many tries you gave it before one came up...I've been running about 2 a minute on 99(c), with all zeros...

[jefbal99]

Curious how many tries you gave it before one came up...I've been running about 2 a minute on 99(c), with all zeros...

my god, 2 a minute?

slow down before you blow up your HR2X

[hdtvfan0001]

my god, 2 a minute?

slow down before you blow up your HR2X
Mouse...meet slingbox remote....:D

[jefbal99]

Mouse...meet slingbox remote....:D

i need a slingbox...

[hdtvfan0001]

i need a slingbox...
Everyone does... :D

They just don't all know it... :lol:

Perhaps they can put one on D12? :eek2: :D :hurah:

[MikeR7]

I just had a signal on TP 7, and then it disappeared

[MIAMI1683]

Everyone does... :D

They just don't all know it... :lol:

Perhaps they can put one on D12? :eek2: :D :hurah:

I have been looking at them for a while. Once I move maybe. Now I will need a switch too cause I have used up all of my ports on my router.

[MikeR7]

I have a SB, but it's no good at work because the sys admin blocks it.

[hdtvfan0001]

I have a SB, but it's no good at work because the sys admin blocks it.
Job hunting time? :D :lol:

It's all a matter of priorities.

[Hdhead]

Does anyone recall the test channel numbers used by D10? I remember testing that came and went at various times before the networks went "live"on their permanent designated channel numbers.

[VeniceDre]

Does anyone recall the test channel numbers used by D10? I remember testing that came and went at various times before the networks went "live"on their permanent designated channel numbers.

Wasn't it in the 9000s? maybe 9700

[merchione]

..When??:confused: :lol:


SOON (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P1400108)

[hdtvfan0001]

Wasn't it in the 9000s? maybe 9700
Seems about right..

[MikeR7]

480/481 they are still there

[MikeR7]

oh, the ones way up there, cant remember

[Greg Alsobrook]

There were some in the 9300's... and something like 498...

[VeniceDre]

480/481 they are still there

Different test channels. I recall 9300 being Nat Geo channel while they were testing... The we had to wait a few weeks for it even after D10 went live. :lol:

I still remember the Fishing village and Whale documentaries they had on that 1st night.

[Dave]

JOhnJ,

Welcome aboard dbstalk. As you can see you picked an exciting day to make your first post. We have been waiting excitedly since this past March to see any kind of number at all coming from D11. I for one and very glad to say that my prediction from yesterday did not come true. If you have any questions, concerns or just want to ask a question just jump right in. I think this is the best satellite forum board going on anywhere. The knowledge is so vast of the boards memebers you will be amazed as many are, including myself.

Once again welcome aboard dbstalk.

[VeniceDre]

BTW

Does this mean I have to stock up on Diet Coke, Beer, and snacks again for the chat room?

Those late night chats sessions for D10 were crazy!

[DarinC]

If the model is any good, it should be able to synthesize snapshots at any point in time.The key phrase here is "reasonable prediction" which is not a record of the actual position at any point in time.

As has been stated here before, the prediction can't be accurate when an artificial force is applied to it. NO TLE is going to be accurate on a space object that has active thrusters.

The biggest question is: knowing the potential of inaccuracies with predictions based on TLEs in a situation like this, why did you continue to make predictions based on TLEs?

:rolleyes:

[dettxw]

I zipped up and got this pic of D11 for you all. ;)

14638

[DarinC]

I zipped up and got this pic of D11 for you all. ;)


Well no wonder we're getting zeros... the antennas are pointing in the wrong direction!

;)

[Steve615]

Just checked for 99 (c) on both of our HR20-700s here and see the same results.
14 TPs ( Nos. 1-14 ) with 0% signal strength currently.
TPs 15-32 showing N/A.

I am also seeing 14 transponders on 99(c) with 0% on all. Very encouraging. :)

[RichardMcCarty]

Why are the new channels always made live on Wednesdays?

Ah yes, Wednesday Morning. Always Wednesday.

[Sixto]

As a point of reference ...

We received our first signal from D10 on Wednesday 9/12/2007.

D10 was scheduled to go "live" on Wednesday 9/19/2007.

Because of a last-minute "authorization issue", got pushed to Wednesday 9/26/2007.

Very possible for 7/30/2008, unless DirecTV has other plans for 8/6 or 8/13 being a better day.

[mcbeevee]

Why are the new channels always made live on Wednesdays?
My guess is Wednesday is a low volume call day for the CSR's, so they can handle the extra calls for the new channels (if needed).

:)

[dgsiiinc]

Wednesday is a great day for pushing patches, uploading content and modifying services. Late enough that staff can be prepared for potential issues and early enough that those issues can be resolved prior to the end of the work week.

[bakerfall]

I have a SB, but it's no good at work because the sys admin blocks it.

I use the free service at logmein.com to connect to my home PC and then launch my slingbox. It's totally inadequate for actually watching TV, but for checking status, recordings, etc, it's completely functional.

[hdtvfan0001]

I use the free service at logmein.com to connect to my home PC and then launch my slingbox. It's totally inadequate for actually watching TV, but for checking status, recordings, etc, it's completely functional.
I've always said for every lock there's a key... :D

Thanks for sharing.

[MikeR7]

I use the free service at logmein.com to connect to my home PC and then launch my slingbox. It's totally inadequate for actually watching TV, but for checking status, recordings, etc, it's completely functional.

Just tried logmein.com when I got back here to work after lunch at home. They have that site blocked too!:lol:

[I WANT MORE]

I have a SB, but it's no good at work because the sys admin blocks it.

+1
I just don't understand employers these days.:)

[MudMover]

Hey if Harsh wants to get pedantic, I can put my aerospace and mechanical engineering degree up against his (along with my posting history here) any time. :)

Of course it's not a literal snapshot, but then again, neither is it a "model." It is an actual mathematical depiction of an orbit at a specific moment in time (e.g., a "snapshot.")

The "model" itself is something called the SGP4/SDP4 model, which uses this mathematical depiction. But I'm sure Harsh already knows that. ;)

Hey..I see your aerospace and mechanical engineering and call you with my electrical engineering and Amateur radio experience...(including multiple radio contacts on satellites.)

Just kidding...you're talking good words there!

[woj027]

Didn't the Boeing Report say they are turning the Sat over 8 days early?

If so would we have expected to have service on 7/30 just one or two days after turnover?
Or would we have expected 8/6?

[HDTVFreak07]

Man, I'm checking two forums the last few days. One is this one in anticipation of D11 to go live and the other is on AT&T Wireless in anticipation of getting Windows Mobile 6.1 for my AT&T Tilt phone. PLUS, my business is awful slow which makes this anticipation unbearable!

[Sixto]

Didn't the Boeing Report say they are turning the Sat over 8 days early?

If so would we have expected to have service on 7/30 just one or two days after turnover?
Or would we have expected 8/6?The original rumor (for a few months) was 8/13.

The new rumor has been 7/30, so that DISH never has the lead. But just a guess. May still be 8/13 or 8/6.

My money is on 7/30.

[woj027]

As usual, thanks Sixto.

[DarinC]

the other is on AT&T Wireless in anticipation of getting Windows Mobile 6.1 for my AT&T Tilt phone.

Strange place to get it, but thanks for the heads up. :D

[hancox]

My money is on 7/30.


Either that or the 31st, but I think you're right.

[Steve Robertson]

My money is on SOON

[harsh]

But then...neither was Echostar 2 by its manufacturer... :DEchostar 2 was built by Lockheed Martin, so I wouldn't have expected its handoff to be announced by Boeing.

[beakor]

what exactly happens after boeing turns over the bird to d*?

[Sixto]

what exactly happens after boeing turns over the bird to d*?The bird is then ready (and fully tested) for commercial use.

[NorfolkBruh]

So I'm reading a 29 for about 3 seconds on this one!

[Hdhead]

what exactly happens after boeing turns over the bird to d*?

D* writes Boeing a BIG check. :grin:

[tcusta00]

483,000 views...

As a side note... this thread has been looked at (roughly) every 11 seconds, on average) since it opened four months ago. :eek2:

Boy, do we love our HD! :lol:

[Sirshagg]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6530/soonvg7tw8.png

[grump]

D* writes Boeing a BIG check. :grin:

I hate those things. They're so hard to fold up and fit in your wallet.

[hdtvfan0001]

Echostar 2 was built by Lockheed Martin, so I wouldn't have expected its handoff to be announced by Boeing.
That's why I didn't name Boeing...I said "by its manufacturer"...

[ub1934]

483,000 views...

As a side note... this thread has been looked at (roughly) every 11 seconds, on average) since it opened four months ago. :eek2:

Boy, do we love our HD! :lol:

Am now showing 14 transponders on 99c , got a sig. on transponder # 4 of 100 for 1 or 2 sec & then it went away .:hurah:

[harsh]

That's why I didn't name Boeing...I said "by its manufacturer"...Indeed and I wasn't paying attention.

Lockheed Martin has never been in the habit of announcing handovers, so it isn't unexpected that E2 wasn't announced.

[P Smith]

So I'm reading a 29 for about 3 seconds on this one!
I'm pretty sure you got some blips from local radars or so.

We should see real signals at West Coast first ( a hint - El Segundo ).

[Tom Robertson]

I'm pretty sure you got some blips from local radars or so.

We should see real signals at West Coast first ( a hint - El Segundo ).

While interesting in theory, since several of us had that same blip at the same time, that either had to be one very powerful radar or the simpler solution of D11 testing :)

(Yes, I had TP 3 at 50 for a few seconds.)

Woohoo!

Cheers,
Tom

[Chaos]

If I remember from D10, we should start seeing signal popping in and out and at different levels for a couple of days while they adjust for the optimum power levels from each of the transponders.

[DEF]

47,59,58 on 1,3 and 5 in Ohio.

[NorfolkBruh]

And as they say... the simple solution is usually the most accurate... except when discussing rocket science! lololol :lol:

[DarinC]

I'm pretty sure you got some blips from local radars or so.

I wouldn't think local radar could give you a reading on the receiver. The "signal strength" meters on most DBS receivers I'm aware of aren't really measuring signal strength so much as signal quality. I would expect local radar to appear pretty much as jibberish to a DBS receiver, and therefore not show any signal "strength".

[P Smith]

While interesting in theory, since several of us had that same blip at the same time, that either had to be one very powerful radar or the simpler solution of D11 testing :)

(Yes, I had TP 3 at 50 for a few seconds.)

Woohoo!

Cheers,
Tom
I have real job to do rather then watch a screen 24/7 :).

[tuff bob]

just saw an 83 on tp8 :)

[Tom Robertson]

(Sniff) How quickly they grow up. So recently I was with m'boy as he was wrapped in proper Packer color swaddling blankets awaiting a cab ride home. Now he's all grown up, ready to shine and spread joy throughout the DIRECTV land. I'm so proud. (sniff, sniff.)


My last picture with him: http://hr20.dbstalk.com/images/Boeing/SEF08-00032_007-small.jpg

(From my thread How I spent my Winter Vacation (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=119725)) :)

Happy for m'boy,
Tom

[bruinfever]

Just checked in today...FINALLY, some signs of life drom D11!!!!

[Doug Brott]

(Sniff) How quickly they grow up. So recently I was with m'boy as he was wrapped in proper Packer color swaddling blankets awaiting a cab ride home. Now he's all grown up, ready to shine and spread joy throughout the DIRECTV land. I'm so proud. (sniff, sniff.)

And so far it has flown .. :)

[harsh]

I wouldn't think local radar could give you a reading on the receiver.RADAR usually employs frequencies from 8GHz to 40GHz. It is conceivable that RADAR (or a harmonic) might show up on a satellite receiver.

[merchione]

Norfolk DMA 43 HD LIL please D*?


..When??:confused: :lol:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=131690

[mhayes70]

(Sniff) How quickly they grow up. So recently I was with m'boy as he was wrapped in proper Packer color swaddling blankets awaiting a cab ride home. Now he's all grown up, ready to shine and spread joy throughout the DIRECTV land. I'm so proud. (sniff, sniff.)



Happy for m'boy,
Tom

:lol:

[Steve615]

With people now reporting various signal strengths from D11,what are the odds that we may see some "TEST" channels showing up in the guide sometime soon?
:)
BTW,still seeing all 0% strengths on TPs 1-14 here.

[Newshawk]

RADAR usually employs frequencies from 8GHz to 40GHz. It is conceivable that RADAR (or a harmonic) might show up on a satellite receiver.

Except that the angles are all wrong. The entire dish is designed to look at a group of points in space, not receive any RF form any angle. The radar would have to be in the same sight line as the satellite for the LNB to see it, unless it was strong enough to bleed through into the LNB from the side.

It's got to be D11.

[Tom Robertson]

Blips on signal strength are very short, sometimes just seconds right now. We should see them settle to full strength in a couple days, I'm thinking.

Woohoo! They're coming! They're coming! :)

Cheers,
Tom

(You know, I can understand why I got so excited about the first group, yet I'm almost just as excited for this group. Interesting... Now back to our regularly scheduled Woohoos!) :)

[Greg Alsobrook]

Blips on signal strength are very short, sometimes just seconds right now. We should see them settle to full strength in a couple days, I'm thinking.

Woohoo! They're coming! They're coming! :)

Cheers,
Tom

(You know, I can understand why I got so excited about the first group, yet I'm almost just as excited for this group. Interesting... Now back to our regularly scheduled Woohoos!) :)

Settle down Tom... It's just radar... ;)

[DarinC]

RADAR usually employs frequencies from 8GHz to 40GHz. It is conceivable that RADAR (or a harmonic) might show up on a satellite receiver.

Yes, I understand that radar can be in the same frequency range as DBS, and these transmissions can actually be received by the LNB. My point, however, is that the signal "strength" meters in DBS receivers are actually considering signal quality... they incorporate the signal to noise ratio into the reading. A radar transmission, if picked up by the receiver, is considered noise, not a valid signal that it understands. Given no other valid (satellite) transmissions, I would expect a radar signal to not show up at all. If stray radar signals were received in addition to the satellite transmission, it would actually reduce the reading in the signal strength screen, not increase it.

[hdtvfan0001]

With people now reporting various signal strengths from D11,what are the odds that we may see some "TEST" channels showing up in the guide sometime soon?
:)
BTW,still seeing all 0% strengths on TPs 1-14 here.
Likewise...I've done about 100 spot updates readings on Tuner 1 alternating with Tuner 2...all zeros here this afternoon every time I checked.Even at checking as many as 8 times per minute...still all zeros...so its a hit-or-miss endeavor.

[machavez00]

add me to the list, 99(c) is on the screen

[bobojay]

Thing is, even with all this new HD programming, there's still very little that's worth watching! Mostly reruns from SD programming.

[Sixto]

Today is a happy day.

For those with HD receivers, we will soon see much more HD.

For those lacking HD LIL, many more LIL markets will soon be lit up.

Can we have a nice sunny summer afternoon, and possibly move the TLE chatter to the "Harsh against the World" thread ... :)

A beautiful day it is!

[merchione]

Today is a happy day.

For those with HD receivers, we will soon see much more HD.

For those lacking HD LIL, many more LIL markets will soon be lit up.

Can we have a nice sunny summer afternoon, and possibly move the TLE chatter to the "Harsh against the World" thread ... :)

A beautiful day it is!

You took the words right out of my mouth Sixto!

[mhayes70]

Today is a happy day.

For those with HD receivers, we will soon see much more HD.

For those lacking HD LIL, many more LIL markets will soon be lit up.

Can we have a nice sunny summer afternoon, and possibly move the TLE chatter to the "Harsh against the World" thread ... :)

A beautiful day it is!

I totally agree. :)

[davring]

Thing is, even with all this new HD programming, there's still very little that's worth watching! Mostly reruns from SD programming.

They are just paving the road, the traffic will come.

[dogs31]

I always enjoy coffee while watching radar. - Dark Helmet

[DodgerKing]

Thing is, even with all this new HD programming, there's still very little that's worth watching! Mostly reruns from SD programming.
The station has to be there first

[hdtvfan0001]

Happy Day.

[bjamin82]

I always enjoy coffee while watching radar. - Dark Helmet

http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/space/images/jamradar.jpg

[Tom Robertson]

And we think this thread gets lots of hits... the poor signal meters on the receivers nationwide must be getting exhausted....

(I'll call DIRECTV and see if they can play a song on the 8 notes of TP 1-8...) !rolling

[hdtvfan0001]

And we think this thread gets lots of hits... the poor signal meters on the receivers nationwide must be getting exhausted....

(I'll call DIRECTV and see if they can play a song on the 8 notes of TP 1-8...) !rolling
Great idea Tom...right now the flatline of 0's is getting a bit old... :lol:

[t-stark]

From Tom
(I'll call DIRECTV and see if they can play a song on the 8 notes of TP 1-8...)

Directv contacted me and I will be building a mountain from mashed potatoes ;)

[bleggett29]

Dang! 12 pages of posts since I first posted about my sighting of D11 this morning. Unlike others, I haven't seen anything other than a bunch of 0's. I'm still waiting for something above 0.

[I WANT MORE]

Every forum I belong to has these types of people. All they do is instigate, and all you do by responding is encourage it. You are as much to blame as he is.....

[dogs31]

This is bigger than "Dark Knight". To quote the words from Joker "Let's put a smile on that face."

[Inches]

Curious how many tries you gave it before one came up...I've been running about 2 a minute on 99(c), with all zeros...
I initially checked and while the 0's were scrolling on TP 7 there was a 96, I looked away and read something on the computer screen and looked back at the TV and there was a 0. Was it one of those am I dreamin' moments? I went to 99(s) and let it fill while getting the camera and switched back to to 99(c) and there was a 96 again so I took a picture. After I took the picture (about 10 seconds) it changed to a 0. Tried it a few more times and got the 96 on another TP, took the picture and then quit.

[hdtvfan0001]

I initially checked and while the 0's were scrolling on TP 7 there was a 96, I looked away and read something on the computer screen and looked back at the TV and there was a 0. Was it one of those am I dreamin' moments? I went to 99(s) and let it fill while getting the camera and switched back to to 99(c) and there was a 96 again so I took a picture. After I took the picture (about 10 seconds) it changed to a 0. Tried it a few more times and got the 96 on another TP, took the picture and then quit.
Thanks...that's what I figured....a sneeze may cause one to miss seeing things...so it is kinda hit-or-miss...

Soon enough...we'll probably start seeing more solid numbers on one or more transponders..this stugg is D10 dejavu.. :)

[Greg Alsobrook]

Thanks...that's what I figured....a sneeze may cause one to miss seeing things...so it is kinda hit-or-miss...

Soon enough...we'll probably start seeing more solid numbers on one or more transponders..this stugg is D10 dejavu.. :)

Or.... maybe you're just too slow.... :p

[curt8403]

Or.... maybe you're just too slow.... :p

dozens have seen, but thousands who have not seen, have believed. Blessed be those who have not seen but have believed.
:grin:

[hdtvfan0001]

Or.... maybe you're just too slow.... :p
Yeah...that could be it..in the mean time...gotta go back to watching transponders...

...its what I live for today...

[Dolly]

dozens have seen, but thousands who have not seen, have believed. Blessed be those who have not seen but have believed.
:grin:
All I have seen is zeros, but I still believe :) And here I thought I was the only one wearing out my receiver checking for numbers ;) :lol: Does anyone remember E.T.? Come on D11 call home :D

[cygnusloop]

dozens have seen, but thousands who have not seen, have believed. Blessed be those who have not seen but have believed.
:grin:

Amen!
:gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown:
:bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott:
:gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown: :gott: :bowdown:

[Greg Alsobrook]

Yeah...that could be it..in the mean time...gotta go back to watching transponders...

...its what I live for today...

I need a slingbox!! :(

[hdtvfan0001]

I need a slingbox!! :(
I've been telling you that now for some time.

Now D11 has proven it all over again...conform! :lol: :lol:

[cajunbug]

dozens have seen, but thousands who have not seen, have believed. Blessed be those who have not seen but have believed.
:grin:


Songs like a slogan from a particular presidential candidate.

:angel:

[Greg Alsobrook]

I've been telling you that now for some time.

Now D11 has proven it all over again...conform! :lol: :lol:

I shoulda listened to you a year ago when you first told me... :lol:

(now if they would just hurry up with that iPhone sling app :D)

[I WANT MORE]

And BlackBerry

[hdtvfan0001]

I shoulda listened to you a year ago when you first told me... :lol:

(now if they would just hurry up with that iPhone sling app :D)
In the mean time...as I play "toggle the tuner" on the signal level screens.... :D

I'm just thinking happy thoughts about all the new HD from D11....

Ahhhhhhhhhh........ :) :) :) :)

[LameLefty]

Wow, I'm out of the office working in another town for a few hours and five pages of posts! Holy moley. :)

Still all zeros on my signal meters but in the immortal words of Mulder, "I want to believe." :D

[curt8403]

Songs like a slogan from a particular presidential candidate.

:angel:


I would love to be president. My campaign slogan would be "I will do whatever I want, whenever I want, and that should be enough of a change for anyone."

[Sixto]

I know that there will be an announcement tomorrow morning around 6:30 am CST. ;)So who is smiddy hanging out with? :)

He makes the post above and then at 6:26am ET, we get a post of 99(c).

Smiddy a clairvoyant? or holding back on us? or just lucky? :) :)

[syphix]

So who is smiddy hanging out with? :)

He makes the post above and then at 6:26am ET, we get a post of 99(c).

Smiddy a clairvoyant? or holding back on us? or just lucky? :) :)I was gonna ask that earlier today....

C'mon smiddy....who do you know...what MORE do you know??

[Sirshagg]

No....

Might I suggest that a new thread be started "Nerd Wars: What is a TLE" and this debate can be continued there.

[hdtvfan0001]

Might I suggest that a new thread be started "Nerd Wars: What is a TLE" and this debate can be continued there.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[man_rob]

So who is smiddy hanging out with? :)

He makes the post above and then at 6:26am ET, we get a post of 99(c).

Smiddy a clairvoyant? or holding back on us? or just lucky? :) :)

He called it. Smiddy seems to really know what he is talking about!

Smid, give us more details! You are proving to be a reliable source!

[Sixto]

Added this TLE info earlier to post#2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1508286#post1508286):http://celestrak.com/columns/v04n03/

Discussion can continue in the referenced "Nerd Wars: What is a TLE" thread. :)

Enjoy ...

[Newshawk]

Can we have a nice sunny summer afternoon, and possibly move the TLE chatter to the "Harsh against the World" thread ... :)!

I've looked all over and can't find that thread... :sure:

[FHSPSU67]

I'm getting intermittent, but consistent numbers (39-52) nearly every other scan on TP's 3, 4, or 5. Never more than one at a time.
Closer and Closer!

[urnote96]

just a quick question....do you guys look at your signal strengths everyday or are ya just bored....

[man_rob]

Added this TLE info earlier to post#2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1508286#post1508286):http://celestrak.com/columns/v04n03/

Discussion can continue in the referenced "Nerd Wars: What is a TLE" thread. :)

Enjoy ...

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

We're not worthy! We're not worthy!

[HDTVFreak07]

just a quick question....do you guys look at your signal strengths everyday or are ya just bored....

Or maybe, maybe I - I - I have no life. :nono:

[Radio Enginerd]

Holy crap, I disappear for a few meetings in the afternoon and return to this... Can someone summorize in 1 post what the heck is going on?

Is this like when 103c went live and we all watched TP4?

[Radio Enginerd]

just a quick question....do you guys look at your signal strengths everyday or are ya just bored....No, I work a 9-5 but I press F5 every 3 seconds to see if I've missed anything. :)

[Sirshagg]

last few hundred posts - sat is essentially parked, no steady readings on TP's, what is a TLE war. Did I miss something?

[woj027]

Holy crap, I disappear for a few meetings in the afternoon and return to this... Can someone summorize in 1 post what the heck is going on?

Is this like when 103c went live and we all watched TP4?

Nothing really is going on. Lots of reports of short bursts of readings on TP's but no video, no nothing. Lots of exictement. No Action.

We've been spending our time talking about the Finer points of TLE's

[syphix]

QUESTION (wow...a post actually related to D11...): what satellite tells our boxes to allow metering of a new satellite? Like when D10 started to light up, or now...when D11 is almost ready to begin talking. Prior to today, we weren't able to even register 0's on 99(c)...what changed that? A signal from 99(c) itself, or from 101?...or a different one?

[henryld]

A dumb question. If 99c is conus why can't everyone see these little short test bursts.?:confused:

[DodgerKing]

A dumb question. If 99c is conus why can't everyone see these little short test bursts.?:confused:

You can. You just have to get a little lucky and check at the exact time.

[syphix]

A dumb question. If 99c is conus why can't everyone see these little short test bursts.?:confused:Most likely because your metering the wrong transponder at the wrong split second...seriously.

I have yet to see anything on 99(c), but get wonderful signal on 99(s) and 103(c), so I have no doubts of 99(c) coming up fine once things settle down.

[jodyguercio]

A dumb question. If 99c is conus why can't everyone see these little short test bursts.?:confused:

Everyone might be seeing them and just not know it as they may not all be looking at their sig strength at the same time....just a guess.:D

[evan_s]

QUESTION (wow...a post actually related to D11...): what satellite tells our boxes to allow metering of a new satellite? Like when D10 started to light up, or now...when D11 is almost ready to begin talking. Prior to today, we weren't able to even register 0's on 99(c)...what changed that? A signal from 99(c) itself, or from 101?...or a different one?

It should be coming down as part of the guide and channel data that currently come from either 101 or 119.

[curt8403]

A dumb question. If 99c is conus why can't everyone see these little short test bursts.?:confused:
because they are there, and ftttpt/ they are gone. it's a matter of being in the right place at the right second

[Tom Robertson]

Might I suggest that a new thread be started "Nerd Wars: What is a TLE" and this debate can be continued there.

Done: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=133780

:D:

So this means all discussion of the metaphysical or existential nature of TLEs can continue there. TLEs about D11 can remain here.

Cheers,
Tom

[syphix]

Thank you for cleaning the thread, Tom. :up:

Are we there yet??


;)

[BoxLunchAtTheY]

Yummy!

[LameLefty]

I got nuthin'. :p

[HIGHWAY]

99c i have 0s

[GP245]

17 is Odd,

While 22 is Even!

[Sirshagg]

17 is Odd,

While 22 is Even!

But 22 - 17 = 5
and 5 is prime!!!

[man_rob]

I got nuthin'. :p

http://www.wendellwit.com/wp-content/uploads/i_got_a_rock.jpg

[Sirshagg]

So I'm kinda curious on something...

Using a slimline dish I'm getting good signal strength on 103 (including D10), 110, 101, and 119. Is it safe to say that I'll be good on 99 too? Note: My locals are on 103 so to the best of my knowledge I currently get nothing from 99.

My gut tells me it would probably be very difficult to aim the slimline such that 4 locations come in good but not the 5th.

[evan_s]

If you are getting all other sats, 103c especially, at good levels you should be set on 99c.

[syphix]

If you get 101, 103, 110, and 119, it's fair to assume you will get 99.

[Tom Robertson]

So I'm kinda curious on something...

Using a slimline dish I'm getting good signal strength on 103 (including D10), 110, 101, and 119. Is it safe to say that I'll be good on 99 too? Note: My locals are on 103 so to the best of my knowledge I currently get nothing from 99.

My gut tells me it would probably be very difficult to aim the slimline such that 4 locations come in good but not the 5th.

Wise gut. :)

[syphix]

Those testing 99(c)...are they in California or Colorado? Did we determine that last time with D10? Just curious as to when they are done with their "testing" for the day and go home...

[sticketfan]

if i can't get sat 119 because of trees, will i have a problem with the new sat. i am in vermont. one reason i look forward to the new sat is the movement of the stations frome the 119. i hope i will not be left in the dark again

[syphix]

if i can't get sat 119 because of trees, will i have a problem with the new sat. i am in vermont. one reason i look forward to the new sat is the movement of the stations frome the 119. i hope i will not be left in the dark again99 is on the opposite side of 119...so hopefully not. If you get 110, 103, and 101...you will get 99 (read: should). Now, if they decide to put a satellite up at 121, you might be SOL...

[smiddy]

Smiddy, what's the announcement?

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html

I hope this answer some of the mail, sorry I was away all day in training.

[Draconis]

Good link smiddy, have another.

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=70508

[syphix]

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080721b_nr.html

I hope this answer some of the mail, sorry I was away all day in training.That's not an answer as to how you knew that announcement was coming today at that particular time...

[P Smith]

Those testing 99(c)...are they in California or Colorado? Did we determine that last time with D10? Just curious as to when they are done with their "testing" for the day and go home...
El Segundo.

[keithtd]

Just saw TP3 at 33

[VaJim]

Norfolk DMA 43 HD LIL please D*?

...actually we're number 42...thank you:D

[MIAMI1683]

That's not an answer as to how you knew that announcement was coming today at that particular time...

You have to trust that he had a gut feeling.

[Fibertec]

DIRECTV 11
Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:01:50 GMT
Latitude: 0.03°
Longitude: -99.22°
Right Ascension: 14h 21m 28s
Declination: -6° 55' 12''
Azimuth: 190.83°
Elevation: +45.48°
Altitude [km]: 35779.31
Altitude [miles]: 22183.17
Speed [km/s]: 0
Speed [miles/s]: 0
Eclipsed? NO

Check this out!!!:D

[MIAMI1683]

DIRECTV 11
Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:01:50 GMT
Latitude: 0.03°
Longitude: -99.22°
Right Ascension: 14h 21m 28s
Declination: -6° 55' 12''
Azimuth: 190.83°
Elevation: +45.48°
Altitude [km]: 35779.31
Altitude [miles]: 22183.17
Speed [km/s]: 0
Speed [miles/s]: 0
Eclipsed? NO

Check this out!!!:D


Cetainly looks good to me!

[Sixto]

DIRECTV 11
Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:01:50 GMT
Latitude: 0.03°
Longitude: -99.22° ... Check this out!!!:DWelcome to the discussion.

The latest TLE (posted this morning), would put D11 at 99.22 this evening. Actually, 99.2282 at this moment, assuming no changes. But we do expect some minor correction to get D11 to an exact geostationary orbit. This morning's TLE was slightly off at 35,778 x 35,794 km.

[smiddy]

That's not an answer as to how you knew that announcement was coming today at that particular time...

Yep, you are right...how could I that? ;) Hey, wasn't it funny how the transponder page came up too? :D

[smiddy]

I just saw the new TLE pop up too...good catch...we're getting closer now!

[curt8403]

That's not an answer as to how you knew that announcement was coming today at that particular time...

maybe Smiddy has become an insider

[LameLefty]

maybe Smiddy has become an insider

Maybe he's always been the "Ogre on the Inside" . . . hmmmm . . . :grin:

[P Smith]

Blips on signal strength are very short, sometimes just seconds right now. We should see them settle to full strength in a couple days, I'm thinking.

Woohoo! They're coming! They're coming! :)

Cheers,
Tom

(You know, I can understand why I got so excited about the first group, yet I'm almost just as excited for this group. Interesting... Now back to our regularly scheduled Woohoos!) :)

And again - you see no DTV signals from D11 because:
a) the sat not parked yet
b) antennas doesn't oriented yet
c) TWTAs not warmed up yet
D) I don't see any signal on spectrum analyzer's screen ! :)
E) D11 should yeld his start time for testing to E11 at 138.5W. ;)

[Greg Alsobrook]

Maybe he's always been the "Ogre on the Inside" . . . hmmmm . . . :grin:

A good Ogre never reveals his sources... :)

[LameLefty]

And again - you see no DTV signals from D11 because:
a) the sat not parked yet
b) antennas doesn't oriented yet
c) TWTAs not warmed up yet
D) I don't see any signal on spectrum analyzer's screen ! :)

I can't speak to the rest, but your (a) is incorrect, or at least incorrect enough. The small amounts of drift in the current TLE over the past few hours are insignificant for national transponders. Is it enough to interfere with spot aiming? Could be, I don't know. But D11 is "parked" from the perspective of most people, even if another small tweak or two are ultimately required.