Sixto Report-D11 Status: In Operation July 31, 2008

[VeniceDre]

Are you ready? We're not far from unsticking this thread ;)

.. and that's in a good way :grin:

Show me, don't tell me. :D

[Radio Enginerd]

Yeah it didn't send me to the normal 206, it said TEST 206 and didn't have an ESPN logo on the banner.hmmmmm, how did you get to TEST 206? You say it sent you there? Can you explain?

[dcowboy7]

t minus 5 hrs. 59 mins.

[Greg Alsobrook]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D

[VeniceDre]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D

Maybe some people are planning to, I just went into the chat room and there was "DirecTV HD" subroom... Nothin but crickets though.

I've been up late keeping my girl company as she works on a design project. If I'm up still up I may stick it out, otherwise I'll just turn the TV on in the morning.

[gulfwarvet]

Maybe some people are planning to, I just went into the chat room and there was "DirecTV HD" subroom... Nothin but crickets though.

I've been up late keeping my girl company as she works on a design project. If I'm up still up I may stick it out, otherwise I'll just turn the TV on in the morning.


yes there's a special room setup that will be open all night for this mornings festivities.

[smiddy]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D

I'm usually up by 5:30, so not any earlier than normal. Though I don't usually check things on a Thursday so hopefully I'm not too foggy at that time to check.

[Greg Alsobrook]

I'm looking forward to some X-Games action in MPEG-4 tomorrow night!! :D

[smiddy]

I'm looking forward to some X-Games action in MPEG-4 tomorrow night!! :D

How about AMP and Get Out in MPEG-4? :D

[VeniceDre]

yes there's a special room setup that will be open all night for this mornings festivities.

Maybe it's easier for you East Coasters to get up early, instead of us West Coasters staying up late.

I remember both of us being really, really sick last September while we waited for activation of D10. Thank God it's not a replay!

[dcowboy7]

I've been up late keeping my girl company....I may stick it out.

:D

[HD30TV]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D

If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I would just because I'm usually up that late on days off anyway.... but since these are just channel rearrangements and not new channels, not quite excited enough to stick it out.


I know, I'm a bad HD enthusiast. :(

[Sirshagg]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D

I was wondering exactly the same thing.

[gulfwarvet]

ok.. so who's staying up all night/getting up early?? :D


i think i may take a pass on this time, i think i'm still recovering from when D10 lit up.

[smiddy]

i think i may take a pass on this time, i think i'm still recovering from when D10 lit up.

That was a wild ride. I think DirecTV 11 is not so much hyped up, especially in light of the direction DirecTV is taking to bring it on line.

[gulfwarvet]

That was a wild ride. I think DirecTV 11 is not so much hyped up, especially in light of the direction DirecTV is taking to bring it on line.

yupper, you may indeed be correct. now in a couple weeks when the new channels comes online. this maybe will become a different story.

[Sirshagg]

That was a wild ride. I think DirecTV 11 is not so much hyped up, especially in light of the direction DirecTV is taking to bring it on line.

Yep, kinda tough to get all excited about the same channels just with a different compression codec. Now there's the definition of geek.

[VeniceDre]

:D

I think you're trying to be dirty! :lol:

[Greg Alsobrook]

yupper, you may indeed be correct. now in a couple weeks when the new channels comes online. this maybe will become a different story.

yep... i'm sure we will have a mad-house indeed when new channels start coming online...

[VeniceDre]

Could be a surprise tomorrow morning though. ;)

Would take the wind out of Dish's sails.

[Greg Alsobrook]

If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I would just because I'm usually up that late on days off anyway.... but since these are just channel rearrangements and not new channels, not quite excited enough to stick it out.


I know, I'm a bad HD enthusiast. :(

We'll let it slide this time... :lol:

[bruinfever]

Could be a surprise tomorrow morning though. ;)

Would take the wind out of Dish's sails.

That's cruel to give me hope like that....:)

[Sixto]

T minus 5 :)

[VeniceDre]

That's cruel to give me hope like that....:)

Hey there were some surprises on Sept. 26, 2007. Some channels popped up that the masses weren't expecting, while others we had seen on Test Channels took weeks to get activated. National Geographic anyone?

Chances are slim though.

[VeniceDre]

T minus 5 :)

You put a lot of work into this thread. You must be especially proud that your baby will begin transmitting to the masses.

[Doug Brott]

No you will want to watch 206 instead of 73. 206 will be MPEG 4, 73 will be MPEG 2

I believe 206 will be MPEG2 .. on the HR10s or if an HR20 is connected to a Ku-only dish.

[Sixto]

You put a lot of work into this thread. You must be especially proud that your baby will begin transmitting to the masses.Looking forward to it! The future is bright ...

[Doug Brott]

I've opened a Chat Room that should be available all night (and morning) long ..

[Paul A]

While I'm bummed about the rollout, it's impossible not to get excited as heck about finally flipping the switch. Congrats at all who brought D11 into, and out of, this world.

Special thanks to all the hard working folks contributing to this excellent forum!!!

More HD for all!!! And more HBO HD channels, SOON!

[Igor]

DIRECTV is doubling its high-def capacity. D11 seems to be of the same size of D10!!!

The switch may flip tonight to kill HD MPEG2 from our lives, but much more must be coming with such big addition. I share the excitement, more HD and SOON :)

[Greg Alsobrook]

I would also like to offer my personal thanks to Sixto for all of the hard work he has put into this thread. Even though I didn't have too much to add to this thread, I did enjoy following it and waiting on the next "Sixto Report". :)

Thanks for taking time out of your day to keep us up to date Sixto! :goodjob:

Now... Let's bring on the MPEG-4 and new HD channels!! :D

[Newshawk]

I believe 206 will be MPEG2 .. on the HR10s or if an HR20 is connected to a Ku-only dish.

206 will be MPEG2 SD on an HR19 as it doesn't have the capability to display two different channels with the same channel number. That is a feature only the H2x and HR2x have.

[VandyCWG]

I for one, am very excited! I get off work at 3am CST and will hopefully be up for the switch tonight!

Exciting times here!

[P Smith]

We have some changes !

TEST, 136
TEST, 145
TEST, 281
TEST, 306
TEST, 552
TEST, 9321
TEST, 245
TEST, 206
TEST, 9324
TEST, 9325
TEST, 9327
TEST, 9328
TEST, 9329
TEST, 9330
TEST, 9331
TEST, 634
TEST, 58
TEST, 501
TEST, 9341
TEST, 209
TEST, 537
TEST, 9346
TEST, 392
TEST, 398
TEST, 396
TEST, 390
TEST, 9352
TEST, 9353
TEST, 259
TEST, 9355
TEST, 138
TEST, 180
TEST, 181
TEST, 139
TEST, 9363
TEST, 9366
TEST, 9369
TEST, 9370
TEST, 292
TEST, 9376

[Steve615]

We have some changes !

TEST, 136
TEST, 145
TEST, 281
TEST, 306
TEST, 552
TEST, 9321
TEST, 245
TEST, 206
TEST, 9324
TEST, 9325
TEST, 9327
TEST, 9328
TEST, 9329
TEST, 9330
TEST, 9331
TEST, 634
TEST, 58
TEST, 501
TEST, 9341
TEST, 209
TEST, 537
TEST, 9346
TEST, 392
TEST, 398
TEST, 396
TEST, 390
TEST, 9352
TEST, 9353
TEST, 259
TEST, 9355
TEST, 138
TEST, 180
TEST, 181
TEST, 139
TEST, 9363
TEST, 9366
TEST, 9369
TEST, 9370
TEST, 292
TEST, 9376

Still looking at 40 test channels,eh?
Thanks for the update P Smith. :)

[P Smith]

Yeah, I thought someone will see the table as a source of new channels ;).
If you miss the point, then I will telly straight -replace SOME "TEST" names with real names where you see changes from last post.

[VeniceDre]

Yeah, I thought someone will see the table as a source of new channels ;).
If you miss the point, then I will telly straight -replace SOME "TEST" names with real names where you see changes from last post.

TEST, 136 PPV
TEST, 145 PPV
TEST, 281 HD Theater
TEST, 306 HD Net
TEST, 552 HD Net Movies
TEST, 9321
TEST, 245 TNT
TEST, 206 ESPN
TEST, 9324
TEST, 9325
TEST, 9327
TEST, 9328
TEST, 9329
TEST, 9330
TEST, 9331
TEST, 634 MSG
TEST, 58
TEST, 501 HBO East
TEST, 9341
TEST, 209 ESPN2
TEST, 537 SHO East
TEST, 9346
TEST, 392 East DNS
TEST, 398 East DNS
TEST, 396 East DNS
TEST, 390 East DNS
TEST, 9352
TEST, 9353
TEST, 259 Universal HD
TEST, 9355
TEST, 138 PPV
TEST, 180 PPV
TEST, 181 PPV
TEST, 139 PPV
TEST, 9363
TEST, 9366
TEST, 9369
TEST, 9370
TEST, 292 Toon Dis HD
TEST, 9376


I see 9 old MPEG2 going to MPEG4 (306 & 552 are for HDNet & Movies) also 6 PPV channels and MSG (634) & ToonDis (292) moving from D10 to D11.

I see the East Coast HD DNS feeds. That's 21 of the feeds.

And another 19 TEST feeds, 12 of which are RSNs I guess. What are the other 7?

[ziltomil]

We have some changes !

TEST, 136
TEST, 145
TEST, 281
TEST, 306
TEST, 552
TEST, 9321
TEST, 245
TEST, 206
TEST, 9324
TEST, 9325
TEST, 9327
TEST, 9328
TEST, 9329
TEST, 9330
TEST, 9331
TEST, 634
TEST, 58
TEST, 501
TEST, 9341
TEST, 209
TEST, 537
TEST, 9346
TEST, 392
TEST, 398
TEST, 396
TEST, 390
TEST, 9352
TEST, 9353
TEST, 259
TEST, 9355
TEST, 138
TEST, 180
TEST, 181
TEST, 139
TEST, 9363
TEST, 9366
TEST, 9369
TEST, 9370
TEST, 292
TEST, 9376
306<HDNet?
58 <new channel?
552<HDNet Movies?
292<repeated mpeg4 channel, possible new channel on D10?
634<repeated mpeg4 channel, possible new channel on D10?

[petergaryr]

306- HDNet is live!

[Stuart Sweet]

Yes, it is!

[VandyCWG]

Looks like the new ESPN is live! WOW!!! Exciting day!

edit...

OK...maybe not...now I am getting a blank / black screen. But it is happening!!!

[ziltomil]

206 went dark

[petergaryr]

281 is dark also

[Pop72&9]

292 is showing CNBC.

[ziltomil]

292 is showing CNBC.
:lol:

[Doug Brott]

Chat room is Open ..

http://chat.dbstalk.com

Double Click on the 'DIRECTV HD TV' room

[petergaryr]

TNT 245 is also asleep.

[Pop72&9]

As is 209 ESPN2

[Laker44]

As 259 UHD

[petergaryr]

Toon Disney 292 has become CNBC HD.

[Bofurley]

I just checked and here is SE Kansas all the channels are live:
306
352
390
396
398
209
245
281
259
552
206 on my HR29-700 but is live on my 10-250

[petergaryr]

206 245 and 209 are back. 281 has disappeared.

[Doug Brott]

Looks like the switch has been made ..

[Pop72&9]

206 245 and 209 are back. 281 has disappeared.

I've got 281

[petergaryr]

I've got 281

Yup...just came back.

[Dolly]

Wow :sunsmile: What a picture and it is even raining here!

[Bofurley]

I just checked my channel 292 is not CNBC!
Petergaryr is your 292 still showing CNBC?

[petergaryr]

292 is back to Toon Disney. They must be close to done with the migration.

BTW, 306-HDNet is looking really good.

[Tiger62]

On 7/31/2008 ... waiting for morning ... expecting the 9 legacy HD channels to be in MPEG4 (Ka)
206/73 - ESPN HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 720p
209/72 - ESPN2 HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 720p
245/75 - TNT HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
259/74 - Universal HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
281/76 - HD Theater (was Discovery HD Theater) MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
306/79 - HDNet MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
501/70 - HBO East HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
537/71 - Showtime East HD MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i
552/78 - HDNet Movies (a,u) MPEG4(Ka)/MPEG2(Ku) 1080i

May be a dumb question, but will those 70's channels eventually disappear, or will the MPEG4 versions be placed there? ... are they at two places now for compatibility purposes?

[inkahauts]

May be a dumb question, but will those 70's channels eventually disappear, or will the MPEG4 versions be placed there? ... are they at two places now for compatibility purposes?

they are there only for compatability purposes.. the 70's will go away soon

[Piratefan98]

I saw in an earlier post that some of the national channels were also doing an MPEG2 to MPEG4 transition, namely.

CBS HD East - 80 to 390
NBC HD East - 82 to 392
ABC HD East - 86 to 396
FOX HD East - 88 to 398

After seeing that, I was wondering whether you have to subscribe to a certain package to get those channels. I don't get them with Choice Xtra w/HD. Not a big deal, as my locals are in HD.

Jeff

[lovswr]

292 is back to Toon Disney. They must be close to done with the migration.

BTW, 306-HDNet is looking really good.

I concur. Just before I left for work this morning , I tuned in to 306. As the picture was just some kind of antique room, it was the vivid & saturated colors that really stood out to me. This was at about 0608 Eastern.

[syphix]

Good morning, D11!! Glad to hear from ya'! :D:D:D:up::up::up:

[hdtvfan0001]

I concur. Just before I left for work this morning , I tuned in to 306. As the picture was just some kind of antique room, it was the vivid & saturated colors that really stood out to me. This was at about 0608 Eastern.
Likewise here early this morning....MPEG4 HD looks mighty fine. :)

D11 is alive and well.

[Jimmy 440]

WWOR 9 & WPIX 11 NY are gone. 771 error !!

[smiddy]

I can't recall the name of the cartoon, but there was a tag line that went something like this: Twizzle-twazzle twiddle dum, time for this thread to be closed. ;) Hey this has been a lot of fun. Thanks to Sixto for keeping us monkeys well informed and to the multitude of <cough> geeks who keep it real, you all do fantastic stuff for DBSTalk. Keep it coming and let's hope that DirecTV 12 will come <cough> SOON! :)

[hdtvfan0001]

I can't recall the name of the cartoon, but there was a tag line that went something like this: Twizzle-twazzle twiddle dum, time for this thread to be closed. ;) Hey this has been a lot of fun. Thanks to Sixto for keeping us monkeys well informed and to the multitude of <cough> geeks who keep it real, you all do fantastic stuff for DBSTalk. Keep it coming and let's hope that DirecTV 12 will come <cough> SOON! :)

Or else "Johnny Five is ALIVE" :D

In any case. I share you view that thanks to many contributors here, especially Sixto...we have had a terrific run, and this story is on the past page.

[dshu82]

I saw in an earlier post that some of the national channels were also doing an MPEG2 to MPEG4 transition, namely.

CBS HD East - 80 to 390
NBC HD East - 82 to 392
ABC HD East - 86 to 396
FOX HD East - 88 to 398

After seeing that, I was wondering whether you have to subscribe to a certain package to get those channels. I don't get them with Choice Xtra w/HD. Not a big deal, as my locals are in HD.

Jeff

These are only for people who cannot recieve their locals via Sat or OTA. Waivers need to be acquired from local stations to be turned on.

[Piratefan98]

These are only for people who cannot recieve their locals via Sat or OTA. Waivers need to be acquired from local stations to be turned on.

Thanks!

[dem]

These are only for people who cannot recieve their locals via Sat or OTA. Waivers need to be acquired from local stations to be turned on.
You may also be able to get some of them if your local stations are owned by the networks. I still get NBCE and ABCE because the corresponding locals in my market are O&O by the networks, and it was useful to have them before my locals were available via Ka/MPEG4.

[wilbur_the_goose]

Wow - another great success for DirecTV :)

[WERA689]

I'm currently watching 306 HDNet, and, while the picture is superb, it does not show up in the guide at all! When I hit the blue button, it shows channel 327 CMTHD. If I bring up the entire guide, it doesn't show 306 either.
How soon til they get this corrected?

EDIT: This turned out to be a function of my favorites list not having 306 on it yet. Once I switched to "Channels I Get", it shows properly.

[jefbal99]

I had to reset my H20-600 to get the new version of ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, Universal, and HD Theatre. All were just black when I would tune to them around 625am ET. HDNet and HDNet Theatre worked fine.

After the reset, all channels came in, however, the new ESPNs had horrible audio/video sync issues. It was fairly close to spot on when I left for work at 730am

I noticed that the new channel slots for the HDNets and East DNS feeds have (D11) listed when you look at the channel information.

[steveken]

I just noticed on my H20-600 that my 206, 209, 245, 306, and 610 were taken out of my list. Not sure why, but thought I would post that up to see if anyone else might have had that problem.

[loudo]

I just noticed on my H20-600 that my 206, 209, 245, 306, and 610 were taken out of my list. Not sure why, but thought I would post that up to see if anyone else might have had that problem.
If you are using a favorites list, you may have to add them to the list.

[Stuart Sweet]

With DIRECTV11 now live, I believe it's time to retire this thread. I'll leave it open but unstuck, and I ask you to move general discussion about DIRECTV11,now properly called 99(c), to this thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=134636

We all owe Sixto our thanks for all his hard work here.

[Steve Robertson]

I guess it is time to start a D12 thread

[loudo]

With DIRECTV11 now live, I believe it's time to retire this thread. I'll leave it open but unstuck, and I ask you to move general discussion about DIRECTV11,now properly called 99(c), to this thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=134636

We all owe Sixto our thanks for all his hard work here.
Thanks to Sixto and all of you who have helped educate us during the wait. Sometime we get Off Topic, but between TO, a lot of good information was shared.

[seltech]

Thank you Sixto! what a ride these past couple months have been. From watching the Sea Launch footage live to following TLE's for the next 4 months, to the launch of all mpeg 4 content for the first time this morning. We get to do it all again next year :D

[LameLefty]

With DIRECTV11 now live, I believe it's time to retire this thread.

Thanks kids, it's been fun. :)

Thanks again to Sixto for keeping the info correlated and up to date.

This is Lefty . . . signing off!

[Sixto]

Thanks for all the teamwork ... looking great this morning ... also looking forward to 8/14 ... and beyond ... and D12!

[Paul A]

Thanks for all the teamwork ... looking great this morning ... alos looking forward to 8/14 ... and beyond ... and D12!

GREAT JOB SIXTO!!! What a ton of dedication and work. We really appreciate it!

Paul

[FHSPSU67]

Thanks, Sixto and Lamelefty!
It's been a fun ride:)

[Radio Enginerd]

58 <new channel?I believe 58 is KQCA My Network TV in Sacramento. I assume it's moved to D11. I tunned it and it looked great this morning.

[Radio Enginerd]

You da man Sixto. Thanks for all the information.

[webby_s]

Thanks Sixto! Great info!

[HoTat2]

Thanks as well Sixto;

For all the hard work and no pay of course. You really don’t get that kind of dedication from people much nowadays. Without some sort of monetary compensation anyway.

And compliments to LameLefty as well. For all his expert input on commercial satellite technology. Been a great occasion. Look forward to doing it all over again with D12. :D

[syphix]

I can't begin to thank Sixto, LameLefty, P Smith and EVERYONE who made this thread the powerhouse source of D11 info! This thread was bookmarked, and my first source for "what's up" with D11. THANKS SO MUCH!!

** CONGRATS TO DIRECTV, BOEING AND SEA LAUNCH!! PERFECT EXECUTION -- "NOMINAL"! **

There's no downside to these MPEG2->MPEG4 conversions: beautiful picture, and less bandwidth. It even makes the HD Extra package sell itself!

Now...onto more nationals and D12...:)

[kw2957]

Sixto and LameLefty-
Hats off to you both. You guys showed such dedication and commitment to keeping us in the loop with the latest happenings from D11. I learned so much from this thread and for all of that I have to say THANK YOU. :)

Take a much needed break and I look forward to the adventures of D12!

~kw2957

[HOAGIEHEAD]

A Big THANKS Sixto you have been a fountain of great information. You hard work and dedication have been phenomonal. This site is better because of people like you. THANK YOU!!!

[reweiss]

Sixto, you've made Long Island proud (I'm a former Long Islander). Great work in keeping us all aware of the latest statuses of D11.

[HIGHWAY]

thank you sixto, lamelefty & p smith for info.

[bruinfever]

Wow, seeing this thread unstuck kinda made my heart sink for a second!! Great work Sixto for keeping us informed everyday and can't wait till D12 launches!!

[raoul5788]

I can't recall the name of the cartoon, but there was a tag line that went something like this: Twizzle-twazzle twiddle dum, time for this thread to be closed. ;) Hey this has been a lot of fun. Thanks to Sixto for keeping us monkeys well informed and to the multitude of <cough> geeks who keep it real, you all do fantastic stuff for DBSTalk. Keep it coming and let's hope that DirecTV 12 will come <cough> SOON! :)

It went like this: trizzle, trazzle, trozzle trome, time for this one to come home!

[ddobson]

This has been fun. Thanks to everyone who helped.

Its kind of like building a house. Some of the fun is in building. Can't wait for it to be done, but when it is done there's mixed feelings. Some of the excitement is gone when its all done...

We can look forward to D-12. You guys all did an AWESOME job.

[Radio Enginerd]

While we're thanking everyone, honorable mention to Satelliteracer for providing some legitimate information about the offical go live of D11.

[yankeesfan]

I called D* this morning to add the HD Extra Pack and they told me my Burlington, VT were available in HD. I told her to add them but nothing has showed up yet but I have my fingers crossed.

[gpg]

Thanks to everyone who kept us informed.

[Ernie]

I guess it is time to start a D12 thread

and a RB-1 thread

[Doug Brott]

I guess it is time to start a D12 thread

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=134248&highlight=D12

[hdtvfan0001]

D11? D11?

D11 is so................so.................so........... ........yesterday......:D

[dalime]

Thank you to Sixto and LameLefty for keeping us so informed.

[Drew2k]

A big thanks to Sixto, LameLefty and the many others who provided information and patiently answered questions from dunderheads like me....

Off to the 99°(C) and D12 threads!

[PoitNarf]

I'd like to add my own big thank you to all that have contributed to this thread. You've taught many of us a whole lot!

[Ed Campbell]

Just adding thanks from a cranky old geek who truly appreciates the folks like Sixto who keep us on course. Especially skipping beyond the odd troll, now and then, who have anything but the best interests of D* subscribers in mind.

Y'all exemplify exactly the best reasons why we always stick with the forum.

That includes - of course - Earl who is presumably still lurking.

[merchione]

Thank You Sixto, lamelefty, p smith and Satelliteracer for all of your information and knowledge. Now on to the next one! D12 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=134248&highlight=D12)

[mcbeevee]

Thanks to the sat pros in this thread. Lets hope D12 is Nom-Mee-Null, just like D11!

:righton:

[smiddy]

It went like this: trizzle, trazzle, trozzle trome, time for this one to come home!

Ding ding ding ding ding, we have a winner! Thanks! :)

[katzeye]

Thanks to all!

[dcowboy7]

since alot of people are:

a) getting 771s on the new mpeg4s.
b) getting 771s on wwor/wpix ny.

i guess this thread isnt done yet.

[Newshawk]

What a long, strange trip it's been... but now we get to reap the rewards of that trip. Thanks to all who shepherded us through the "birth" of D11.

Let the Festivus begin!

[Canis Lupus]

I remember watching the launch with many of you in the Chat Room. Seems like it was actually a very short time ago. :)

Thanks to all of you for monitoring the skies so earthbound users like myself didn't have to learn math. :lol:

Thanks sixto, lamelefty, psmith and everyone else.

[Button Pusher]

Thanks to sixto,lamelefty and the rest that have made this thread great to read everyday!

[Dolly]

A big thanks to Sixto, LameLefty and the many others who provided information and patiently answered questions from dunderheads like me....

Off to the 99°(C) and D12 threads!
Well said so I will just add my thanks :sunsmile: And Drew2k
you are not a dunderhead like I am ;)

[GlennDio]

It went like this: trizzle, trazzle, trozzle trome, time for this one to come home!

It was tutor the turtle ... Mr.Wizard the lizard would turn him into something each espisode that Tutor thought he would like to be (e.g. a knight in King arthurs court) and then when he was about to be killed jousting he would scream for Mr. Wizard and Mr. Wizard would bring him back with "trizzle, trazzle, trozzle trome, time for this one to come home!"....and the quote "tutor, always I tell you be what you is not what you is not folks that do this is the happiest lot"!

[bwaldron]

It was tutor the turtle ... Mr.Wizard the lizard would turn him into something each espisode that Tutor thought he would like to be (e.g. a knight in King arthurs court) and then when he was about to be killed jousting he would scream for Mr. Wizard and Mr. Wizard would bring him back with "trizzle, trazzle, trozzle trome, time for this one to come home!"....and the quote "tutor, always I tell you be what you is not what you is not folks that do this is the happiest lot"!

I'm feeling old...

[steveken]

wow, COMPLETELY off topic now. :) I guess it IS time to poke this turkey and call it done. Great job everyone!!! Lovin the new content.

[n3ntj]

I'm waiting for D11 to turn on new HD channels and PBS HD feeds to get excited.

[VeniceDre]

Somebody help me here with the math here if I miss something:

So they moved (9) MPEG2 nationals over last night to D11:

ESPN
ESPN2
HDNet
HDNet Movies
UHD
HBO
SHO
TNT
Discovery HD Theater

And from P Smith's info (8) MPEG4 chans left D10 and migrated over to D11, which were 6 PPVs, MSG, & Toon Disney.

Then we have (8) West Coast and East Coast DNS + (12) RSNs going fulltime on D11.

So D11 has 37 slots already allocated.

If they keep to 5 Channels per TP does that leave us with 33 slots for new future channels until D12 goes up?

Where does NFL Sunday ticket play in here also?

Seems like D11 is going to get full pretty fast.

[Sixto]

Been out most of today but may need to re-think the latest for 8/14 (more positive).

With P. Smith's latest D11 channel map, it looks like D11 now has the 9 legacy HD channels in MPEG4, 6 PPVHD's (at least 5 moved from D10), Toon Disney & MSG moved from D10, and the four East DNS. All "live".

In test, there's 4 DNS west, 1 Movie's Now, that Sacramento HD, ABC Family, and the 12 new fulltime RSN's.

So now maybe there aren't 6 new HD, just mostly moved from D10, to avoid to sharing that goes on now with the game only RSN's.

That leaves many possibilities for D11 on 8/14 ... gotta look at this further ... to make a better educated guess at 8/14 ... but it certainly looks like D10 is relieved as of right now. at least 7 channels have moved from D10.

[Sixto]

Somebody help me here with the math here if I miss something:

So they moved (9) MPEG2 nationals over last night to D11:

ESPN
ESPN2
HDNet
HDNet Movies
UHD
HBO
SHO
TNT
Discovery HD Theater

And from P Smith's info (8) MPEG4 chans left D10 and migrated over to D11, which were 6 PPVs, MSG, & Toon Disney.

Then we have (8) West Coast and East Coast DNS + (12) RSNs going fulltime on D11.

So D11 has 37 slots already allocated.

If they keep to 5 Channels per TP does that leave us with 33 slots for new future channels until D12 goes up?

Where does NFL Sunday ticket play in here also?

Seems like D11 is going to get full pretty fast.Just read your post after also posting.

Yep, mostly agree with the math. Gotta check channel 181, not sure that was on D10.

And there's that Movie's Now channel, and the Sacramento channel ...

[rey_1178]

thanks sixto and the rest of you that helped :)

[Sixto]

Figured it out ... looks like 6 PPVHD channels did move from D10 to D11, not 5.

They slightly changed the PPV HD channel assignments. Still 14 PPV HD in MPEG4, just now 8 on D10 and 6 on D11.

[hdtvfan0001]

Figured it out ... looks like 6 PPVHD channels did move from D10 to D11, not 5.

They slightly changed the PPV HD channel assignments. Still 14 PPV HD in MPEG4, just now 8 on D10 and 6 on D11.
Thanks Sixto.

I guess what the various posts are getting at....what's left in terms of space on D10 and D11 total after all these moves (for National HD channels)?

[Sixto]

Thanks Sixto.

I guess what the various posts are getting at....what's left in terms of space on D10 and D11 total after all these moves (for National HD channels)?8 moved from D10.

4 new East DNS, shutting off 110 (NBCE), 119 (CBSE, FOXE, ABCE) eventually.

4 new West DNS, shutting off 101 eventually.

9 new legacy, shutting off 110/119 eventually.

Totals 25.

12 RSN's makes 37. All on D11.

Same math as VeniceDre.

33 left assuming 5 per and only 14 transponders.

And 1 for Movie's Now.

And some space for 1080p.

And not sure if more needs to move from D10, especially if turning off 2 transponders eventually.

[curt8403]

8 moved from D10.

4 new East DNS, shutting off 101 eventually.

4 new West DNS, shutting off 101 eventually.

9 new legacy, shutting off 110/119 eventually.

Totals 25.

12 RSN's makes 37. All on D11.

Same math as VeniceDre.

33 left assuming 5 per and only 14 transponders.

And 1 for Movie's Now.

And some space for 1080p.

And not sure if more needs to move from D10, especially if turning off 2 transponders eventually.


East HD DNS from 119 not 101
West HD DNS has been gone from 119 for months (to 103)

[l8er]

Thanks to all who contributed positively to the D11 thread. It's been real. :D

[syphix]

I'm confused reading this thread....:confused:

So, Sixto, there's only space for 33 more HD nationals on both D10 & D11? Is that BEFORE or AFTER the 8/14 additions?

Just counted the channels in the "national HD channels NOT carried by DirecTV" thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=132095): 25, not counting channels not launched yet (ESPNU HD, Chiller HD, etc. etc.).

Would/could DirecTV use 110/119 to transmit MPEG4 HD's (I'm guessing they can, but wouldn't because of the new Slimline3 being actively installed soon, and fewer new installs even "seeing" 110/119)?

Next fall is a LONG way away (latest timeline for D12's launch)...

[xxx]

I'm really confused at the whole thing now. D:confused: :confused: :confused:

Perhaps, Sixto, you may know this. How many and what channels (national) will be launching on 8/14?

Do we have a COMPLETE list yet or are we speculating. We know from the PR that Showtimes, Planet Green, etc. will be there but wondering what is in store for us on that day.

I think ESPNU will be launching on 8/28 or 8/31---I forget. And I am guessing that DTV will be carrying ESPNU (only wish that they wouldn't have that channel in the sports pack, but oh well)

Any light shed, will be mostly appreciated. Thanks!

[VeniceDre]

East HD DNS from 119 not 101
West HD DNS has been gone from 119 for months (to 103)

I think the West HD DNS were actually moved temp to 101 but in MPEG4 to help with MDU transition. I don't think you need BBC converters connected for those. I read it somewhere here.

Either way, they are up on D11 under TEST channels so they are moving there eventually with the East Coast counterparts.

[VeniceDre]

I'm confused reading this thread....:confused:

So, Sixto, there's only space for 33 more HD nationals on both D10 & D11? Is that BEFORE or AFTER the 8/14 additions?

Just counted the channels in the "national HD channels NOT carried by DirecTV" thread: 25, not counting channels not launched yet (ESPNU HD, Chiller HD, etc. etc.).

The math I came up with that Sixto is quoting shows around 33 slots even less when you consider a couple of the other TEST channels (Movie Now, etc). It seems to me after they balance D10 to 70 channels, and they add the 12 fulltime RSNS we'll have around only 30 slots left. Maybe that's why they say "Beginning August 14, DIRECTV will launch more than 30 additional HD channels, bringing the total HD channel lineup to 130."

14 TPs x 5 Channels on D10 + 14TPs x 5 Channels on D11 = 140 Channels.

[syphix]

The math I came up with that Sixto is quoting shows around 33 slots even less when you consider a couple of the other TEST channels (Movie Now, etc). It seems to me after they balance D10 to 70 channels, and they add the 12 fulltime RSNS we'll have around only 30 slots left. Maybe that's why they say they'll start adding 30 more HD channels.Wow...I never thought D11 would fill up that quickly!:eek2: That means that it'll be full by the end of the year! And as someone posted, how does the NFL package work in??

Well, they have space for the only five channels I want:
Travel Channel HD
WGN America HD
AMC HD
Fox News HD
and the rest of the HBO's

(ok....so that's more like 8...but they have the room!:);))

[curt8403]

I think the West HD DNS were actually moved temp to 101 but in MPEG4 to help with MDU transition. I don't think you need BBC converters connected for those. I read it somewhere here.

Either way, they are up on D11 under TEST channels so they are moving there eventually with the East Coast counterparts.

no, they were moved to 103 lo hence they do not need a b band,

[curt8403]

Wow...I never thought D11 would fill up that quickly!:eek2: That means that it'll be full by the end of the year! And as someone posted, how does the NFL package work in??

let me guess. when the nfl starts, they will just compress the channels a bit more to squeeze a few more channels
but a channel that has 10% compression will not suffer much if it jumps to 12% compression

[evan_s]

no, they were moved to 103 lo hence they do not need a b band,

103 lo would require a bbc. 103 hi would be the one that wouldn't need a bcc and that is currently only Spaceway and doesn't have any Conus transponders so I don't see how the DNS could be on that.

[curt8403]

103 lo would require a bbc. 103 hi would be the one that wouldn't need a bcc and that is currently only Spaceway and doesn't have any Conus transponders so I don't see how the DNS could be on that.

you are correct, I should have said that they were on the 103 Lo, I always confuse the 2 bands and frequencies

[Malibu13]

My Thanks to all who contributed to the success of this thread and for keeping it civil (most of the time :D ) It was a most interesting and very informative ride. I have been here at DBSTalk nearly 4 years now and must say that you guys are amazing with your knowledge and (speculation :lol: )

Now have fun and enjoy the new HD content. :)

[Sixto]

East HD DNS from 119 not 101
West HD DNS has been gone from 119 for months (to 103)As of 7/27 ...

East DNS HD were 110 (TP12: NBCE) and 119 (TP24: CBSE, FOXE, TP32: ABCE).

West DNS HD were 101 (TP2: NBCW, ABCW, FOXW, TP24: CBSW).

Have corrected the post for East DNS.

[VeniceDre]

As of 7/27 ...

East DNS HD were 110 (TP12: NBCE) and 119 (TP24: CBSE, FOXE, TP32: ABCE).

West DNS HD were 101 (TP2: NBCW, ABCW, FOXW, TP24: CBSW).

Have corrected the post for East DNS.

I knew I wasn't losing my mind on WEST DNS HD being on 101, even though they switched it to MPEG4 they kept it somehow on 101 so the MDUs that hadn't upgraded to the new dish systems could still see it off 101 using the H & HR MPEG4 series boxes.

[Sixto]

Perhaps, Sixto, you may know this. How many and what channels (national) will be launching on 8/14?The press release says 130 on 8/14.

Currently have 95.

130-95=35.

35 new using the counting methodology from all along ...

[syphix]

So, after 8/14, there's only 33 slots left for HD nationals?

[VeniceDre]

So, after 8/14, there's only 33 slots left for HD nationals?

Nope, after they add West Coast DNS and the 12 part RSNS there will be about 33 slots left.

9 MPEG2, 4 East Coast DNS, Toon Dis, MSG, 6 PPV went live on D11 this morning. Thats 21 existing channels right there, add 12 RSNs, and 4 West Coast DNS we'll be at 37 before we get to the additions. So 33 slots for new channels.

That's all based on 5 channels on each TP, and 14 TPs.

[curt8403]

Nope, after they add West Coast DNS and the 12 part RSNS there will be about 33 slots left.

9 MPEG2, 4 East Coast DNS, Toon Dis, MSG, 6 PPV went live on D11 this morning. Thats 21 existing channels right there, add 12 RSNs, and 4 West Coast DNS we'll be at 37 before we get to the additions. So 33 slots for new channels.

remember 9 MPEG2 = 5 MPEG4

[dcowboy7]

So, after 8/14, there's only 33 slots left for HD nationals?

Nope, after they add West Coast DNS and the 12 part RSNS there will be about 33 slots left.

9 MPEG2, 4 East Coast DNS, Toon Dis, MSG, 6 PPV went live on D11 this morning. Thats 21 existing channels right there, add 12 RSNs, and 4 West Coast DNS we'll be at 37 before we get to the additions. So 33 slots for new channels.

That's all based on 5 channels on each TP, and 14 TPs.

im lost....didnt he say that ?

[syphix]

Nope, after they add West Coast DNS and the 12 part RSNS there will be about 33 slots left.

9 MPEG2, 4 East Coast DNS, Toon Dis, MSG, 6 PPV went live on D11 this morning. Thats 21 existing channels right there, add 12 RSNs, and 4 West Coast DNS we'll be at 37 before we get to the additions. So 33 slots for new channels.Still confused...the 8/14 additions were supposed to amount to 30+...how many will be left??

[VeniceDre]

remember 9 MPEG2 = 5 MPEG4

Huh?

It has nothing to do with compression size. DirecTV is putting 5 "MPEG4" channels per TP on D10 and D11.

[VeniceDre]

im lost....didnt he say that ?

:lol:

I think he meant after the new channel additions on 8/14. Whatever NEW NATIONAL CHANNELS added on the 8/14 will come out of the 33 number (Planet Green, ABC Family, the SHOs, and whatever else they add on that day.

It all depends on what they launch that day.

[VeniceDre]

Still confused...the 8/14 additions were supposed to amount to 30+...how many will be left??

The release says they will start adding 30+ channels that day.

I'm shutting up now.

:lol:

[syphix]

:lol:

I think he meant after the new channel additions on 8/14. Whatever NEW NATIONAL CHANNELS added on the 8/14 will come out of the 33 number (Planet Green, ABC Family, the SHOs, and whatever else they add on that day.

It all depends on what they launch that day.Do the "additional PPV HD's count? That's in the press release for 8/14...if NOT...then..

Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD

That's four channels out of the 33, so 29?

And if the PPV HD's count, then who knows how many will be left...D11 is filling up faster and faster!!

[VeniceDre]

Do the "additional PPV HD's count? That's in the press release for 8/14...if NOT...then..

Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD

That's four channels out of the 33, so 29?

And if the PPV HD's count, then who knows how many will be left...D11 is filling up faster and faster!!

Now we're on same page buddy. :lol:

I hope they don't add more than a few HD PPV channels. For chrissakes, how many do we need?

[curt8403]

Now we're on same page buddy. :lol:

I hope they don't add more than a few HD PPV channels. For chrissakes, how many do we need?

just remember a HD PPV is a bigger money maker than Planet Green

[hdtvfan0001]

Wow...I never thought D11 would fill up that quickly!:eek2: That means that it'll be full by the end of the year!
Isn't that assuming that all the available transponders are activated and used?

Somehow, with 130 HD Channels...it would appear there would still be at least 4 free transponders left.

But then...I only got B's in math. :D :lol:

[syphix]

Now we're on same page buddy. :lol:

I hope they don't add more than a few HD PPV channels. For chrissakes, how many do we need?I counted (from the "HD channels not on D*" thread) 23 channels (not counting Planet Green HD and ABC Family HD)....and that's not counting channels coming up later this year (ESPNU, Chiller HD, etc. etc.). D11 will be filled before Christmas.

Now, I understand the philosophy: "Add as many PPV HD's as they need to fill D11...mine as well use the transponders/bandwidth..you're paying for it." But I hope they're willing to REMOVE PPV HD's to get NATIONAL HD's up...

[syphix]

Isn't that assuming that all the available transponders are activated and used?

Somehow, with 130 HD Channels...it would appear there would still be at least 4 free transponders left.

But then...I only got B's in math. :D :lol:Four ACTIVE transponders left on D11? Or total, between D10 & D11?

[mlb]

Now, I understand the philosophy: "Add as many PPV HD's as they need to fill D11...mine as well use the transponders/bandwidth..you're paying for it." But I hope they're willing to REMOVE PPV HD's to get NATIONAL HD's up...

Exactly. That is the issue. As long as Dish, cable, and FiOS are pushing them then they will be motivated to cut back on the PPV and add the nationals.

[Drew2k]

Now, I understand the philosophy: "Add as many PPV HD's as they need to fill D11...mine as well use the transponders/bandwidth..you're paying for it." But I hope they're willing to REMOVE PPV HD's to get NATIONAL HD's up...Satellite Racer did make a comment to that affect in the Press Release thread - that it's easier to put up a PPV HD channel and take it away as needed, than to remove a dedicated national HD channel.

[syphix]

Does D* currently count PPV HD's to get to their claimed "95 HD channels"?

[hdtvfan0001]

Four ACTIVE transponders left on D11? Or total, between D10 & D11?

Total.....20 channels worth...

[Sixto]

Does D* currently count PPV HD's to get to their claimed "95 HD channels"?Yes. 15 of 95 are PPV-HD. All detailed here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1191378#post1191378

[Doug Brott]

You guys let me know when you're done calculating :)

[hdtvfan0001]

You guys let me know when you're done calculating :)
I still have 24 fingers and toes to work with... :D

(True Confessions :lol: )

[Tom Robertson]

Simple answer--they ain't dun yet, the pattern isn't full. :)

[syphix]

I just "calculated" that if D* were to count their 1 VOD-HD channel (Smithsonian, to be fair) and all their "part time" HD RSN's, they'd be at 115 HD's right now.

They beat Dish Network's claim of going to 114 HD's tomorrow. :)

[TheRatPatrol]

Do the "additional PPV HD's count? That's in the press release for 8/14...if NOT...then..

Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD

That's four channels out of the 33, so 29?

And if the PPV HD's count, then who knows how many will be left...D11 is filling up faster and faster!!
I know.

I just counted 9 HD PPV channels as of right now, and out of those 9, three of them have the same movie on.

My question is, whey do we need so many PPV channels? Instead of having the same movie on 3 different channels, and showing the same movie on the same channel through out the day, why not spread the movies out on less channels over they day? I mean we can always find the movie we want, record it and watch it later. ;)

[syphix]

I know.

I just counted 9 HD PPV channels as of right now, and out of those 9, three of them have the same movie on.

My question is, whey do we need so many PPV channels? Instead of having the same movie on 3 different channels, and showing the same movie on the same channel through out the day, why not spread the movies out on less channels over they day? I mean we can always find the movie we want, record it and watch it later. ;)I love your idea, but I have a sneaky suspicion that we'd be surprised by how FEW DirecTV customers actually have a DVR...

[bobnielsen]

I love your idea, but I have a sneaky suspicion that we'd be surprised by how FEW DirecTV customers actually have a DVR...

I suspect the percentage is much higher for those with HD than for SD.

[spectrumsp]

Well now...now that we have this mission accomplished, what's the launch date for D 12?

[TheRatPatrol]

I love your idea, but I have a sneaky suspicion that we'd be surprised by how FEW DirecTV customers actually have a DVR...
Then they need to upgrade. :D

[DodgerKing]

just remember a HD PPV is a bigger money maker than Planet Green
Seriously, how many do they need? The all pretty much show the same things.

[DodgerKing]

I counted (from the "HD channels not on D*" thread) 23 channels (not counting Planet Green HD and ABC Family HD)....and that's not counting channels coming up later this year (ESPNU, Chiller HD, etc. etc.). D11 will be filled before Christmas.

Now, I understand the philosophy: "Add as many PPV HD's as they need to fill D11...mine as well use the transponders/bandwidth..you're paying for it." But I hope they're willing to REMOVE PPV HD's to get NATIONAL HD's up...

If they are simply using them as place holders, which allows them to make money, then I have no issues with it.

[DodgerKing]

I just "calculated" that if D* were to count their 1 VOD-HD channel (Smithsonian, to be fair) and all their "part time" HD RSN's, they'd be at 115 HD's right now.

They beat Dish Network's claim of going to 114 HD's tomorrow. :)

There's my new sig. Thanks!

[l8er]

You guys let me know when you're done calculating :) Can I cipher too? I was a double knot spy in a former life. :D

[hdtvfan0001]

Can I cipher too? I was a double knot spy in a former life. :D
You go Jethro.... :D

[DarinC]

So, after 8/14, there's only 33 slots left for HD nationals?

Even if that were the case, is that a huge deal? It almost seems like the numbers are becoming more important than the content. Personally, beyond Travel, and maybe a few more premiums, there's not much more HD I would watch. 80% of what's recorded on my HR now, I'll never get around to. I would MUCH rather they focus on quality before quantity. I'd really hate to get back to where we ended up with SD: hundreds of channels that look like @ss, but are less fullfilling. :nono:

[syphix]

@DarinC: point taken. Well said, and I completely agree. I'm only waiting for about 6-8 more channels that I want (Travel Channel HD!!!), and I'm set.

[DarinC]

And I wasn't ragging on you... I spent a lot of time reading a thread today about the Dish PR, and it just seems like so many (on both sides) are caught up in a channel count competition. We just TODAY got rid of the last of the last of the overcompressed HD channels. Just hoping we don't go back. DirecTV wants to market themselves as a premium provider. Let's see if they mean it. :)

[JayPSU]

Honestly, all I want in addition to what we already have is the HBO/Cinemax/Starz multi-plex channels. When/IF they add those, I'll be 100% happy.

[Sixto]

Parked ... a little tighter ...
DirecTV-11(TLE135)
1 32729U 08013A 08214.23405301 -.00000141 00000-0 00000+0 0 1356
2 32729 000.0208 092.0612 0001405 133.9712 069.1766 01.00270629 1464

NORAD # 32729
COSPAR designator 2008-013-A
Epoch (UTC) 08-01-2008 05:37:02
Orbit # at Epoch 146
Inclination 0.021
RA of A. Node 92.061
Eccentricity 0.0001405
Argument of Perigee 133.971
Revs per day 1.00270629
Period 23h 56m 06s (1436.10 min)
Semi-major axis 42 165 km
Perigee x Apogee 35 781 x 35 793 km
Element number / age 135 / 0 day(s)

Lon 99.2163° W
Lat 0.0243° S
Alt (km) 35 784.310

Perigee(bottom of orbit) x Apogee(top of orbit) - Target is 35,786 x 35,786 km (Circular)
TLE#135(08-01-2008 05:37:02) 35,781 x 35,793 km (+47.1 hours,at 134.5 days, 99.22°)
TLE#134(07-30-2008 06:33:57) 35,779 x 35,795 km (+47.6 hours,at 132.5 days, 99.21°)
TLE#133(07-28-2008 06:57:49) 35,779 x 35,795 km (+19.5 hours,at 130.6 days, 99.21°)
TLE#132(07-27-2008 11:26:19) 35,779 x 35,795 km (+27.4 hours,at 129.7 days, 99.21°)
TLE#131(07-26-2008 08:01:32) 35,779 x 35,794 km (+ 0.0 hours,at 128.6 days, 99.20°)

Last 5 TLE's above ...

Post #2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1508286#post1508286) has the overview and complete TLE history ...

[LameLefty]

And I wasn't ragging on you... I spent a lot of time reading a thread today about the Dish PR, and it just seems like so many (on both sides) are caught up in a channel count competition. We just TODAY got rid of the last of the last of the overcompressed HD channels. Just hoping we don't go back. DirecTV wants to market themselves as a premium provider. Let's see if they mean it. :)

Excellent point. It kind of reminds me of the "Megahertz Wars" between Intel, AMD and the PowerPC consortium in the 90's and early 2000's. Everyone fussing and fuming about the numbers of cycles per second their processors could churn through, but never mind graphics performance, memory and disk bandwidth, etc. It was all about who could claim the fastest clock speed. Usability and functionality took a back seat.

I agree that Directv's 30-odd remaining national HD should be plenty for the next year or so. D12 will fill in the gaps later. :)

[hdtvfan0001]

I agree that Directv's 30-odd remaining national HD should be plenty for the next year or so. D12 will fill in the gaps later. :)
I'm with ya on that....besides....we won't have to squint while watching our HD, like that other sat brand's customers... :D :lol:

[tkrandall]

I vote give me quality of picture over quantity of channels.

[TerryB]

This weekend I will try a tweak of the sl5 dish to raise the 99(c) from a usable but dodgey 75-80 range up to a 90+. The other birds are between 95-100 so I'm hoping a nudge in elevation will make the numbers look better.

TerryB

[baker60]

And I wasn't ragging on you... I spent a lot of time reading a thread today about the Dish PR, and it just seems like so many (on both sides) are caught up in a channel count competition. We just TODAY got rid of the last of the last of the overcompressed HD channels. Just hoping we don't go back. DirecTV wants to market themselves as a premium provider. Let's see if they mean it. :)

I agree, can't watch all that's on now and have any kind of family life, to say nothing about work life. I want the channels I watch to be worth watching and to have good PQ. "E.T." looked great on channel 552 last night and what I saw of TNT and ESPN were of high PQ. D-11 certainly was worth the wait.

[syphix]

And I wasn't ragging on you... I spent a lot of time reading a thread today about the Dish PR, and it just seems like so many (on both sides) are caught up in a channel count competition. We just TODAY got rid of the last of the last of the overcompressed HD channels. Just hoping we don't go back. DirecTV wants to market themselves as a premium provider. Let's see if they mean it. :)I completely agree. 110%. I was hoping to just point out how surprised I was at how quickly D11 was filling up.

And, unfortunately, we're a "quantity" driven market ("size matters";)).

[kd3yt1]

I posted this question in a separate thread yesterday and no replies at all. Maybe you guys can answer it here as it concerns D11. Will they be adding more HD locals after the first of the years. I am in Johnstown-Altoona Pa DMA 98 or 99 and we are not on the list of the 44 to be done by end of the year.

[syphix]

I posted this question in a separate thread yesterday and no replies at all. Maybe you guys can answer it here as it concerns D11. Will they be adding more HD locals after the first of the years. I am in Johnstown-Altoona Pa DMA 98 or 99 and we are not on the list of the 44 to be done by end of the year.Only DirecTV knows the answer to that...sorry.

[jefbal99]

I posted this question in a separate thread yesterday and no replies at all. Maybe you guys can answer it here as it concerns D11. Will they be adding more HD locals after the first of the years. I am in Johnstown-Altoona Pa DMA 98 or 99 and we are not on the list of the 44 to be done by end of the year.

yes

[kymikes]

I posted this question in a separate thread yesterday and no replies at all. Maybe you guys can answer it here as it concerns D11. Will they be adding more HD locals after the first of the years. I am in Johnstown-Altoona Pa DMA 98 or 99 and we are not on the list of the 44 to be done by end of the year.

Will they be adding additional HD locals? Yes but who and when seems to be one of life's major mystery's. I'm in Lexington, KY DMA (#60 something) and all local majors have been broadcasting in HD and "penetration" numbers are good (opportunity metric best I can determine) and we aren't in that list either. I can't see any vehicle to determine any of the 'why's' and I am guessing that you are in a similar situation. Good luck.

[dcowboy7]

Honestly, all I want in addition to what we already have is the HBO/Cinemax/Starz multi-plex channels. When/IF they add those, I'll be 100% happy.

ok so it sounds like u are a movie fan....then why wouldnt u want amc hd ?

or fox movie channel hd (if there is) as well ?

[Hdhead]

I posted this question in a separate thread yesterday and no replies at all. Maybe you guys can answer it here as it concerns D11. Will they be adding more HD locals after the first of the years. I am in Johnstown-Altoona Pa DMA 98 or 99 and we are not on the list of the 44 to be done by end of the year.

Maybe a better question is - Does the announced locals to be added this year fill out the current capacity for D* to add more locals? Any takers? If this is the case you will have to wait for D12.

[syphix]

ok so it sounds like u are a movie fan....then why wouldnt u want amc hd ?Commercials. :)or fox movie channel hd (if there is) as well ?I wish their was one.

[dcowboy7]

Commercials. :)

not with a dvr. (basically)

[harsh]

Only DirecTV knows the answer to that...sorry.But you may find someone at each of the local stations that is willing to blab.

[l8er]

...then why wouldnt u want amc hd ?
.... Cutting, editing and commercials would be 3 reasons. :grin:

[Tom Robertson]

Maybe a better question is - Does the announced locals to be added this year fill out the current capacity for D* to add more locals? Any takers? If this is the case you will have to wait for D12.

The locals thru the end of the year should not fill the entire capacity of the constellation of Ka satellites. Since DIRECTV can and does move them around as capacity comes online, it doesn't seem to matter if D11 is filled, really we're pretty sure they haven't filled the 1,500 channels capacity of the group.

As previously mentioned, the tricky part is knowing which/when.

And the local stations might have a clue--that they very well might be wrong about. :)

Cheers,
Tom

[dcowboy7]

Cutting, editing and commercials would be 3 reasons. :grin:

but they showed planet of the apes the other day....i would say not much is really cut and edited....plus i cann ff thru commercials.

[Paul A]

Honestly, all I want in addition to what we already have is the HBO/Cinemax/Starz multi-plex channels. When/IF they add those, I'll be 100% happy.

I'm with you!

[MrDad0330]

My number one on the wish list is Fox News in HD. With the election coming up and how good all those Fox babes look....HD would be wonderful... in total viewing time, I probably watch ch 360 more than any other....Please "D" give us Fox New HD...or even better yet...give us that and drop CNN HD...

[yuppers519]

My number one on the wish list is Fox News in HD. With the election coming up and how good all those Fox babes look....HD would be wonderful... in total viewing time, I probably watch ch 360 more than any other....Please "D" give us Fox New HD...or even better yet...give us that and drop CNN HD...


I could'nt agree with you more. PLEASE D* give us Foxnews HD

[Old Tv Watcher]

I could'nt agree with you more. PLEASE D* give us Foxnews HD

Me too!

[curt8403]

Me too!

Fox Business Network is in HD, let us all work to request that Directv add Fox news IN HD as soon as possible

[Tom Robertson]

Guys, this isn't a "Request your favorite channel" thread. We already have those.

If you're saying that this thread is done... ;)

Cheers,
Tom

[Radio Enginerd]

Guys, this isn't a "Request your favorite channel" thread. We already have those.

If you're saying that this thread is done... ;)

Cheers,
TomI think you might want to put a fork in this bad boy. :)

[P Smith]

DONE, done.

Time to close it.

[curt8403]

DONE, done.

Time to close it.

sad to say, but I vote to close this thread as well, useful discussion has run it's course, and it will just get more crocked the longer it goes on/

[techrep]

Wait untill Monday.

[MikeR7]

sad to say, but I vote to close this thread as well, useful discussion has run it's course, and it will just get more crocked the longer it goes on/

I agree. :lol:

[Tom Robertson]

Since I only seem to be posting warnings in this thread these days, and now the thread has become a vote about to keep the thread open, I think I'll close. :)

(I don't mind the suggestions to close or not close. Thanks.)

Cheers,
Tom