Rules on 2 dishes, one household

[jaguar325]

I have been helping a friend get a lake home set up with DTV. The dish is mounted on a post in front of the home and, due to trees, can't be moved. There is a need to feed signal to another building and the distance is probably 200 ft.. Worse yet, there is a paved driveway between the existing dish and other building and no desire to disturb it.

Is there any reason why we can't just hook-up a second 5 LNB dish on the other building and activate an additional receiver/DVR (connected to that second dish) under the same account that is already in-place for the house? I wanted to get some G2 before deciding what path to take on this with DTV. I'd hate to see them get clipped for a second subscription just to avoid running a cable under his driveway (that's assuming it would even be possible given the distance from the dish).

Thanks in advance for your advice.

[harsh]

To achieve the goal, either another dish or a run of RG11 would likely be required. This is not so much for the signal survival, but for the receiver power to make it all the way to the dish/multiswitch.

It is likely that one would have to argue pretty hard to get an outbuilding 200' away to be considered part of the "home".

[Villanman]

2 Dishes will work fine.
If the building is located at the same address, and/or uses the same phone number under your account, there should be no problem in activating the new receivers under the same account. Just call and activate as you would if it was all connected to the current dish.

[jaguar325]

2 Dishes will work fine.
If the building is located at the same address, and/or uses the same phone number under your account, there should be no problem in activating the new receivers under the same account. Just call and activate as you would if it was all connected to the current dish.

This is exactly what we are trying to do.. the reason for this post is that I remember reading a thread on vacation homes (where people were taking their DVR with them to another location) and I could swear I read that somebody said that DTV did some sort of matching of the receiver ID and the specific dish it is attached to (implying they'd be checking on you and this would be a problem). I have used my own receiver on a different dish for a few days at a cabin without problems but was wondering if this would eventually be tagged as an issue. There would definitely be one address/phone number for this setup.. just trying to get sat TV piped into a personal woodworking shop on the property.

Thanks.

[mjones73]

They don't marry the dish and receiver together.

[carl6]

They don't marry the dish and receiver together.

Yet.

That might happen with the SWM Slimline, I believe the technology will be there to do that.

Carl

[glennb]

Yet.

That might happen with the SWM Slimline, I believe the technology will be there to do that.

Carl

What would the point of that be ?

[MarkN]

What would the point of that be ?

exactly, talk about a waste of time!!

[Grentz]

Not really a waste of time. Its a further way to crack down on people using receivers under the same account at different locations.

[tuff bob]

What would the point of that be ?

to stop you taking the receiver to another dish, say at your neighbors house or at your summer cabin. I'm pretty sure I saw that the receiver will marry to the SWM.

[Tom Robertson]

What I know: The patent application included a section describing marrying SWM with receiver for security reasons. (And some discussion of methodology, if I recall.)

I do not know: if any receiver or SWM currently supports such.

I do suspect it will be supported in the future, tho I have no inkling as to how far out that future might be.

Cheers,
Tom

[Hansen]

To the OP, you will have no problem with what you propose. DirecTV does not monitor what particular dish the receiver is attached to. There are many folks in condos and town homes that put a single 5LNB dish on the roof and several or many separate owners will tie into that same dish but they have their own independent accounts for their receivers. If DirecTV cared what dish was being used then that scenario would throw up red flags everywhere. It doesn't make economic sense to police it.

[codespy]

Still have 2 dishes on my house-

5 LNB slimline

30" round for SD to eliminate rain fade.

When I had my Trip Sat dish, I had 3 inputs from the triple sat and 1 input from the 30" round into 1 multiswitch.

So technically 10 IRD's hooked up to 2 dish antenna's for years with no problems.

[glennb]

to stop you taking the receiver to another dish, say at your neighbors house or at your summer cabin. I'm pretty sure I saw that the receiver will marry to the SWM.

Taking your own receiver to your own summer cabin.
BFD
I didn't know that was a crime.

[harsh]

I didn't know that was a crime.At one time, this kind of activity was spoken to directly in the Customer Agreement. DIRECTV has been known to discontinue service to violators in the past. Now it is a little vague. Either way, it doesn't really matter what you think as DIRECTV is the one interpreting its rules.

As they say in the courts, ignorance is no excuse.

[paulman182]

Not really a waste of time. Its a further way to crack down on people using receivers under the same account at different locations.

They don't use the method they already have in place, the phone line, so it seems strange that they need a "further" method.

[GLJones]

I don't use phone lines. All my receivers (H21, HR21, HR21) are all connected to ethernet through my cable modem. I assume they compare IP addresses to verify they are at the same address OR do they not really care and that is just for PPV purchase reporting?

Jerry

[crashHD]

Still have 2 dishes on my house-

5 LNB slimline

30" round for SD to eliminate rain fade.

When I had my Trip Sat dish, I had 3 inputs from the triple sat and 1 input from the 30" round into 1 multiswitch.

So technically 10 IRD's hooked up to 2 dish antenna's for years with no problems.

I'm interested in how you hooked those together.

I currently have a 24" dish that is almost invulnerable to rain fade. I'm shopping for HDTV's, and expect to upgrade soon. I would like to use my 24" for 101, and the slimline for the rest (99,103,110,119). Is there a way to hook them together like that, or did you just hook different receivers to different dishes?

[Clarkson TV & Appliance]

The slimline dish has little or no rain fade on any sat location IF it is aligned correctly. Weasel

[litzdog911]

I'm interested in how you hooked those together.

I currently have a 24" dish that is almost invulnerable to rain fade. I'm shopping for HDTV's, and expect to upgrade soon. I would like to use my 24" for 101, and the slimline for the rest (99,103,110,119). Is there a way to hook them together like that, or did you just hook different receivers to different dishes?

There's no way to combine just the 101-deg W dish with a Slimline. See the link in my signature below for a few known schemes to combine multiple dishes.

[crashHD]

I was afraid that would be the case. I found this image while researching the subject:
http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13224&stc=1&d=1208026679, which went a long way in helping me to understand which signals are carried on which cables. I had been hoping it would be possible to feed 101 to the multiswitch from the other dish, but it looks like if I did that, the 99 signals would be lost.

I think I will install the slimline, aligning it as precisely as possible. If I get rain fade with it, then I'll put the 24" back up, and let it feed the SD receivers only.