Curious about 24 hour PPV limit

[bearcat250]

Sunday evening I bought & recorded No Country for Old Men on PPV onto my Tivo SDVR-40. I expected it to be gone in 24 hours, but on Tuesday morning it's still there. I confused. Can someone explain? :confused:

[BubblePuppy]

Sunday evening I bought & recorded No Country for Old Men on PPV onto my Tivo SDVR-40. I expected it to be gone in 24 hours, but on Tuesday morning it's still there. I confused. Can someone explain? :confused:

The 24 hour limit starts when you begin watching the show and pay for it.

[RobertE]

Sunday evening I bought & recorded No Country for Old Men on PPV onto my Tivo SDVR-40. I expected it to be gone in 24 hours, but on Tuesday morning it's still there. I confused. Can someone explain? :confused:

The 24 hour limit is not enforced on Tivo based units yet.

[ansky]

The 24hr limit also does not apply to PPV 'Event' purchases.

[TimGoodwin]

The 24hr limit also does not apply to PPV 'Event' purchases.

This is not an event. I was wondering about this last week I ordered The Bee Movie for the kids and it stayed in my list after 24 hours. But when I went to watch it again we got the " would you like to order this movie message again." So I just pressed no and deleted the movie so the kids would not replay it.

So it seems that if you try to watch it again you have to repay for it.

[jfalkingham]

This is not an event. I was wondering about this last week I ordered The Bee Movie for the kids and it stayed in my list after 24 hours. But when I went to watch it again we got the " would you like to order this movie message again." So I just pressed no and deleted the movie so the kids would not replay it.

So it seems that if you try to watch it again you have to repay for it.

exactly as they want it to act. I think its absurd, but my opinions are not valued at DIRECTV or the content producer :nono:

[tcusta00]

exactly as they want it to act. I think its absurd, but my opinions are not valued at DIRECTV or the content producer :nono:

It's not DirecTV it's the studios.

[Earl Bonovich]

Specific Reason:

TiVo units have not been updated to enforce the rule yet.

[gregjones]

There is also an extremely long thread where every possible interpretation of the rules were covered at least three times each.

[jfalkingham]

It's not DirecTV it's the studios.

It's absolutely DIRECTV's decision to enforce the desires of the content providers and studios. If you lay over and give in to their demands, there is more motive than simply blaming the studios. They do it to be able to keep charging for PPV, any hit to customer service must have been weighed and they determined it was worth it. DIRECTV takes the black eye because I am their customer. That is to be expected, you may not like it, but that is they way it is when you have customers. If it truly was solely the studio or content producer, then DIRECTV should come out and market it as such.

[Drewg5]

The 24 hour rule is not cool. Than again I have not gotten any PPV after the rule went into affect and instead reinstated netflix.

[DTV-888]

It's absolutely DIRECTV's decision to enforce the desires of the content providers and studios. If you lay over and give in to their demands, there is more motive than simply blaming the studios. They do it to be able to keep charging for PPV, any hit to customer service must have been weighed and they determined it was worth it. DIRECTV takes the black eye because I am their customer. That is to be expected, you may not like it, but that is they way it is when you have customers. If it truly was solely the studio or content producer, then DIRECTV should come out and market it as such.

what?

the 24 hr window IS 100% studio driven. DTV has no choice but to honor this.

if you want to be so darn angry, you can at least direct your hostility to the deserving party.

edit: from direct.com


Effective April 15, 2008, DVR recordings of PPV movies will be available for 24 hours of unlimited viewing after purchase. Major movie studios have required that satellite and cable providers alike may no longer allow their customers to view these recordings for longer than 24 hours. During the 24 hour viewing period, you will continue to enjoy all of your DVR features such as pause and rewind.

[DiSH Defector]

It's absolutely DIRECTV's decision to enforce the desires of the content providers and studios. If you lay over and give in to their demands, there is more motive than simply blaming the studios. They do it to be able to keep charging for PPV, any hit to customer service must have been weighed and they determined it was worth it. DIRECTV takes the black eye because I am their customer. That is to be expected, you may not like it, but that is they way it is when you have customers. If it truly was solely the studio or content producer, then DIRECTV should come out and market it as such.


It hardly was a "decision" that was made after weighing pros and cons. As has been repeated enough to beat a herd of dead horses, this is INDUSTRY-WIDE. Not an option. I'm sure D*, E* & cable companies nationwide would rather not "fight the power" or "stand up to the man" if the consequence is to lose access to certain studios' PPV releases.

And as for marketing, I can't think of too many examples of Fortune 500 companies marketing limitations of their product. Like, where in the DishDVR commercial does it "market" that the multi-room DVR really only gives you single-tuner functionality in each room?

The Writer's Guild strike did more bad than prematurely end a decent season of Heroes. Maybe after the Actors strike later this year SAG will make everyone do away with All Day Tickets.


:lol: :lol: Damn the man! Save the Empire!:lol: :lol:

[gregjones]

MODS: can we consolidate the several PPV 24 hour sky is falling threads?

[tcusta00]

It's absolutely DIRECTV's decision to enforce the desires of the content providers and studios. If you lay over and give in to their demands, there is more motive than simply blaming the studios. They do it to be able to keep charging for PPV, any hit to customer service must have been weighed and they determined it was worth it. DIRECTV takes the black eye because I am their customer. That is to be expected, you may not like it, but that is they way it is when you have customers. If it truly was solely the studio or content producer, then DIRECTV should come out and market it as such.

what? er? huh? ummm... but the...

I'm speechless. I am without speech. :nono2:

[gregjones]

If it truly was solely the studio or content producer, then DIRECTV should come out and market it as such.

They stated as much. It has been shown across the board: AppleTV, Dish, DirecTV, etc.

As to their weighing the options, I am sure that decisioning process ended when they realized it would be illegal not to comply. DirecTV does not own the rights to this content, the content owners do. They get to set restrictions within the terms of the contract. Would you rather have PPV for 24 hours or not at all? Pretty simple decision.

Now you have to weigh your decision about whether DirecTV is the appropriate choice for you.

[jrinck]

I don't know why they settled on 24 hours. Five days would accomplish the same thing and would be much more customer-friendly.

[ansky]

I don't know why they settled on 24 hours. Five days would accomplish the same thing and would be much more customer-friendly.

Or if they want to impose the 24hr limit, how about reduce the price of the movie to $2.99. That would keep people happier, and would probably net more profit in the end. But we know that would never happen.

[jsmuga]

I don't know why they settled on 24 hours. Five days would accomplish the same thing and would be much more customer-friendly.

I agree even three days would have made more sense.

[SteveHas]

I agree even three days would have made more sense.

+2

and +1 on the $2.99

[ThomasM]

I don't know why they settled on 24 hours. Five days would accomplish the same thing and would be much more customer-friendly.

Maybe they liked DirecTV's "all day ticket" idea? :D

[gregjones]

I don't know why they settled on 24 hours. Five days would accomplish the same thing and would be much more customer-friendly.

Complain to the content owners. They imposed 24 hours on all the contracts (Dish, Apply, DirecTV). If you hate it, take it up with them.

[GreatPig]

Since the 24-hour rule was established I have stopped all PPV purchases in my house. Regardless of the "fault" (I blame the studios), D* is now getting a few dollars fewer per month from me.

[jrinck]

Complain to the content owners. They imposed 24 hours on all the contracts (Dish, Apply, DirecTV). If you hate it, take it up with them.


I won't complain to anyone. I just won't buy it. That's the most effective complaint right there, actually.

[bubbers44]

If the Tivo unit doesn't erase the PPV but the HR20 does, will the Tivo record the PPV while the HR20 is recording and keep it? Probably not. because you bought the PPV with the other unit. Thought maybe it sent the PPV to the entire house, not just that receiver since the computer knows you have two receivers. Just looking for a loop hole. I hate DVDing to SD from HD.

[Jeremy W]

If the Tivo unit doesn't erase the PPV but the HR20 does, will the Tivo record the PPV while the HR20 is recording and keep it? Probably not. because you bought the PPV with the other unit. Thought maybe it sent the PPV to the entire house, not just that receiver since the computer knows you have two receivers. Just looking for a loop hole. I hate DVDing to SD from HD.
If you buy it via DirecTV.com, it will authorize the PPV on all of your receivers. Then you can record it on the Tivo and keep it for as long as you want.

[ansky]

If you have a DVD recorder can you record the PPV movie directly onto DVD, or from DVR to DVD, or is the movie protected?

[bubbers44]

If you have a DVD recorder can you record the PPV movie directly onto DVD, or from DVR to DVD, or is the movie protected?

We have DVD'd hundreds of movies from the DVR. Most of them from the HR10-250 which requires 480i output to transfer. The HR20-100 we also outputted in 480i but someone here said since the HR20 outputs in 480i even when watching TV in 1080i you can leave the output in 1080i. If the movie is HD the DVD of course will only be SD. That is why I asked if the PPV went to all receivers in the house or just the one you ordered. Thanks Jeremy, I will try ordering with the directv.com next time so I can use the HR10-250 to keep it in HD.

[bubbers44]

If you buy it via DirecTV.com, it will authorize the PPV on all of your receivers. Then you can record it on the Tivo and keep it for as long as you want.

Order Online
In the Program Guide, find the movie or event you want.
Click on the order button/link.
Sign in or register (if registering for the first time, you'll need your account number).
Choose the date you want to watch it.
Choose the room you want to watch it in and your method of payment.
Confirm and watch.
Order by Phone*

I only have Family as a choice of rooms to watch from. Does this mean The HR10 in bedroom won't receive it?

[Jeremy W]

I only have Family as a choice of rooms to watch from. Does this mean The HR10 in bedroom won't receive it?
If it's an HD PPV in the 100s, then yes. Those are in MPEG4, the HR10 can't see those.

[bubbers44]

I just tried buying a movie on channel 144 on the HR20. I then went to the bedroom and watched the first 4 minutes of the PPV with the HR10 with the caption on the bottom of screen saying I had to purchase it, then the screen went blank. This one was SD. If I had ordered it over directv.com would it have done the same thing? Jeremy?

[Jeremy W]

If I had ordered it over directv.com would it have done the same thing?
No, the entire movie would have been viewable on both receivers. Buying it online is the only way to accomplish that.

[tsanga]

Sunday evening I bought & recorded No Country for Old Men on PPV onto my Tivo SDVR-40. I expected it to be gone in 24 hours, but on Tuesday morning it's still there. I confused. Can someone explain? :confused:

Actually this is happening to me too.

I have a HR21-100. I did a record now, watch later. On Friday night I started No Country For Old Men. The DVR shows that I started the movie at 9:53 pm.

As of now (Sunday morning), I can still go back to the DVR List, select "resume" and watch the movie, and do all the trick play stuff.

I read that iTunes's 24 hour rental period has a loop hole where if you never get to the end of the movie and always pause before the end, you can keep watching it over and over. I wonder if this is the case?

As an experiment, I could fast forward to the end until the delete screen comes up. But I don't want to do this - I like this movie. ;)

[Jeremy W]

I read that iTunes's 24 hour rental period has a loop hole where if you never get to the end of the movie and always pause before the end, you can keep watching it over and over. I wonder if this is the case?
DirecTV never mentioned anything about having to actually end the movie, but it could be the case. I've never actually tried it to see.

[bubbers44]

Actually this is happening to me too.

I have a HR21-100. I did a record now, watch later. On Friday night I started No Country For Old Men. The DVR shows that I started the movie at 9:53 pm.

As of now (Sunday morning), I can still go back to the DVR List, select "resume" and watch the movie, and do all the trick play stuff.

I read that iTunes's 24 hour rental period has a loop hole where if you never get to the end of the movie and always pause before the end, you can keep watching it over and over. I wonder if this is the case?

As an experiment, I could fast forward to the end until the delete screen comes up. But I don't want to do this - I like this movie. ;)


I still can watch the PPV on 144 I recorded two days ago. I think when we came to the credits we shut it off. We transfered it to DVD yesterday so we wouldn't lose it but was curious when it would go away. It was an all day 24 hr movie so maybe if you stop it during the ending credits the computer holds it to see it to the very end. Worth further checking if that is what it takes.

[tsanga]

Mine was a HD PPV, channel 145, which is not All Day Ticket and good for that one showing only.

Checked late last night and still works. :)

This is making the 24 hr limit easier to stomach, since anybody with a family knows, it's not always possible to finish a movie in 24 hours split across 2 sittings.