Why even produce the R17 if R22 is now available ?

[snackcake36]

I mean one was made available a few months ago (R17 with swm) which is being installed (swm) starting this year)

but why even make the r17, ?

and why not call the r22 ... r21 ?

[MIAMI1683]

I mean one was made available a few months ago (R17 with swm) which is being installed (swm) starting this year)

but why even make the r17, ?

and why not call the r22 ... r21 ?

First I think you mean the R16. The reason to do so is the R22 is intended for areas where Mpeg4 locals are. The R16 will work anywhere. I have the R16 already. I like it. It is SWM compatible as you noted, and has a regulare rf port too. It is not intended for mpeg4 locals. Now they have a reciever they can push out tp areas that recieve thier locals in mpeg4 format with out having to dish out the H21 or HR21 depending on the order. Plus since it is baisically HD ready it could become upgradeable.

[cartrivision]

First I think you mean the R16. The reason to do so is the R22 is intended for areas where Mpeg4 locals are.

That's not exactly right. Per DirecTV's recently disclosed set-top box product strategy, starting in the second half of 2008, all deployed DVRs will be MPEG4 HD capable (i.e. R22s or newer for "SD DVR" installs). The R16 is something that was probably committed to production before that strategy was finalized and it soon will become a discarded orphan.

[Tom Robertson]

That's not exactly right. Per DirecTV's recently disclosed set-top box product strategy, starting in the second half of 2008, all deployed DVRs will be MPEG4 HD capable (i.e. R22s or newer for "SD DVR" installs). The R16 is something that was probably committed to production before that strategy was finalized and it soon will become a discarded orphan.
Have you seen any R17 that the OP claims is already out and available this year? You realize you would have seen it here first? :)

At this point, there is nothing on the market between the R16 and R22. I won't go so far as to say "there never will be", but I surely have not heard of anything.

Cheers,
Tom

[kc1ih]

I guess what this is saying is that when you watch your locals on an R-22 you are getting the HD channel downconverted to SD, rather than the SD feed. Am I correct? This is assuming you are in an area where there are HD locals.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I guess what this is saying is that when you watch your locals on an R-22 you are getting the HD channel downconverted to SD, rather than the SD feed. Am I correct? This is assuming you are in an area where there are HD locals.

No, the R22 is able to receive MPEG4 signals from SAT 103c for markets that are receiving their SD locals from SAT 103c.

They are just normal SD channels, not HD channels down-converted.

[convem24]

I guess what this is saying is that when you watch your locals on an R-22 you are getting the HD channel downconverted to SD, rather than the SD feed. Am I correct? This is assuming you are in an area where there are HD locals.

This is the assumption. I have a friend who has received an R22 and I asked him how it is. He told me it works fine and as mentioned before the box has HDMI out, which is nuts in my opinion but is will only output SD. It takes the picture from local Mpeg4 and just downgrades it to SD.

[zuf]

This is the assumption. I have a friend who has received an R22 and I asked him how it is. He told me it works fine and as mentioned before the box has HDMI out, which is nuts in my opinion but is will only output SD. It takes the picture from local Mpeg4 and just downgrades it to SD.

As Mike said above, the R22 is not downgrading HD signal to SD. It is picking up the same SD signal off the birds as the R15 & R16 (and any other SD receiver) and showing that on the TV. I have a round dish with a single LNB pointed at 101 (thus I am incapable of receiving HD channels) and my R22 works on all the same channels as my R15s do.

[Tom Robertson]

This is the assumption. I have a friend who has received an R22 and I asked him how it is. He told me it works fine and as mentioned before the box has HDMI out, which is nuts in my opinion but is will only output SD. It takes the picture from local Mpeg4 and just downgrades it to SD.Some SD locals are being sent via the MPEG4/Ka streams. They are SD so not being downrezed. It's very unlikely the receiver is picking up any HD channels at this point.

Cheers,
Tom

[inkahauts]

No, the R22 is able to receive MPEG4 signals from SAT 103c for markets that are receiving their SD locals from SAT 103c.

They are just normal SD channels, not HD channels down-converted.

To much pressure on the newbie moderator? :D

103s Mike, 103s.....

[cartrivision]

That's not exactly right. Per DirecTV's recently disclosed set-top box product strategy, starting in the second half of 2008, all deployed DVRs will be MPEG4 HD capable (i.e. R22s or newer for "SD DVR" installs). The R16 is something that was probably committed to production before that strategy was finalized and it soon will become a discarded orphan.Have you seen any R17 that the OP claims is already out and available this year? You realize you would have seen it here first? :)

At this point, there is nothing on the market between the R16 and R22. I won't go so far as to say "there never will be", but I surely have not heard of anything.

Cheers,
Tom

I'm not sure what your response is about. I never said that there was a R17.... just that the R16 was probably unneeded in DirecTVs current set top box strategy, and that it will probably disappear soon as something that DirecTV installs.