Need another dish?

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

Hey there guys/girls.

Im new to this place, but hope to be a active member in no time!

For mothers day I got my mom a DVR. ( R15) She only has one line going into her room. I learned that she needs 2 lines so she can get the full use of it.


When I was talking on the phone to the Directv people to schedule a install date ( this upcoming Wednesday.) I got told to that I need a extra line of the Sat. Dish, I went outside to it, and all 4 lines are getting used.

Will they have to install another dish? At the same time they are doing my moms room Im going to see if they will hook up the other 3 rooms also at the same time, as I see everyone in the family wanting a DVR. :D

Any help on this would be great! Also is there anything that you guys would recommend that the install guy does that would help or be better?

Thanks!

Esd.

[Michael D'Angelo]

Welcome to DBSTalk

No you will not need another dish. They will just add a multi-switch. They will take the 4 lines from the dish and connect them to the multi-switch and than you will have 8 outputs.

[David MacLeod]

might be a good idea to make sure its a newer 5 lnb dish for future upgrades.

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

might be a good idea to make sure its a newer 5 lnb dish for future upgrades.



Would that cost extra money or would they do that as a upgrade for me?

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

Welcome to DBSTalk

No you will not need another dish. They will just add a multi-switch. They will take the 4 lines from the dish and connect them to the multi-switch and than you will have 8 outputs.



Thanks for the welcome!


Cool! So they will have to run a 2ed cable to each room from the dish correct?

[akhicks]

if you want dvr's in 4 rooms there will need to 2 lines for each dvr. keep in mind the tech will most likely only so the work on the work order this means if there work order says upgrade for one dvr thats all the tech will get paid for so if you want more done call dtv. you can also call them to verify whats on the work order.

[David MacLeod]

Would that cost extra money or would they do that as a upgrade for me?

I honestly don't know, I do my own work and have never dealt with them. when I first signed up installation out here was not an option, the only installer in area was someone I used to work for and that companies policy prohibited that.

[Bill Broderick]

If you're not getting HD, they won't just give you a new HD dish because you ask for it. Also, as akhicks mentioned, the installer is only going to be getting paid by DirecTV for installing the multi-switch and one new line to your mother's room. If you want additional lines run to the other rooms in the house, you will either need to work out your own financial deal with the installer or you're going to need to get those other DVR's.

DirecTV won't pay an installer to run additional lines for equipment that the customer doesn't have (even if the customer says that they plan to get that equipment).

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

Well, I would like it in the other 3 rooms also.

After reading your replies do you think the guy that comes out would do the other 3 rooms on the side?

I was thinking 10 dollars a room extra, so 30 bucks total under the table.

Do you think that 30 is adequate?


Thanks!

[harsh]

Do you think that 30 is adequate?This depends on how you want the cables run. If you're okay with multiple holes in walls and cable draped or laying on the floor, maybe. If you want the cable carefully routed and dressed, not a chance.

The installer must also weigh losing another install that day for unexpected time spent on yours.

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

This depends on how you want the cables run. If you're okay with multiple holes in walls and cable draped or laying on the floor, maybe. If you want the cable carefully routed and dressed, not a chance.

The installer must also weigh losing another install that day for unexpected time spent on yours.


Well right now all the cables are getting run threw the walls. And then have the panel screwed into the dry wall with the wire coming out.

I was thinking the same thing for the 2ed wires. Because all the wires are already routed he would just have to fallow them.


Quick question. Does this multi-switch have to be put on the outside of the house where the dish is at and then a extra cable from the dish to the room(s)?

Or couldn't he just stick this thing on the end of a existing wire and just make 2? If some one could explain this to me I would appreciate it , as he is coming tomorrow and I would like to be informed person.

Thanks again for all of your guys help!

[Bill Broderick]

Well right now all the cables are getting run threw the walls. And then have the panel screwed into the dry wall with the wire coming out.

I was thinking the same thing for the 2ed wires. Because all the wires are already routed he would just have to fallow them.


You're certainly not going to get that for $10 each. That's going to cost more like $60 each. Even with the one that you're already getting, it's not likely that he will fish that wire through the wall the way that you want it, without an additional charge.


Quick question. Does this multi-switch have to be put on the outside of the house where the dish is at and then a extra cable from the dish to the room(s)?

Or couldn't he just stick this thing on the end of a existing wire and just make 2?!

The location of the multiswitch will depend on how the existing wires enter the house. If they all come into the house at a single location and are then routed to the individual rooms, then the multiswitch can be installed inside the house. If the wires enter the house at different locations, then the multiswitch should probably be near the dish.

The multiswitch is much more complicated than a splitter. You can't just plug a single wire into a splitter in order to multiply it into two wires.

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

You're certainly not going to get that for $10 each. That's going to cost more like $60 each. Even with the one that you're already getting, it's not likely that he will fish that wire through the wall the way that you want it, without an additional charge.



The location of the multiswitch will depend on how the existing wires enter the house. If they all come into the house at a single location and are then routed to the individual rooms, then the multiswitch can be installed inside the house. If the wires enter the house at different locations, then the multiswitch should probably be near the dish.

The multiswitch is much more complicated than a splitter. You can't just plug a single wire into a splitter in order to multiply it into two wires.


Ok. Well they called to confirm and im the only one on his route from 12-4 PM.

Well im paying 99 dollars for the service call to install the 2ed line! So I really hope hes going to run it nice. The 30 i was thinking about was just for the other 3 rooms under the table.


Yea I have one wire from the dish that goes stright threw the wall to a room. Then i have 3 wires going to threw soffet into the attic then in the attic one going to the 2ed bedroom. Then one that goes out side to the porch. Then drilled out side, then back inside to the living room. Lastly i have the one running all the way threw the attic from the dish to the master bedroom. then threw the wall. to the dvr.

Sorry if i made it confusing.

[houskamp]

need all 4 to switch then you run to recievers..
you can put it outside but would recommend that you put it in a protective box..

[BigDPW]

need all 4 to switch then you run to recievers..
you can put it outside but would recommend that you put it in a protective box..

I am looking into a similar thing for my system... Any advice on what kind of box to use where to get one from etc???

[akhicks]

a typical cable run without a reciever at that location is a $99. charge, or it used to be when i worked for ironwood. you may be able to work out a better deal with the tech but dont expect it, maybe offer them $100. for all three. $100. is better than $300.

[glennb]

might be a good idea to make sure its a newer 5 lnb dish for future upgrades.

If the OP doesn't need a 5 LNB dish the installer won't replace the dish with a new slimline dish just for the heck of it.

[Eatsleepdrivesc]

Well he finished earlier today.

He came at about 12:30 and left at 3:30.

He did all the rooms with the 2 wires. And put them all on switchers outside.

He didnt put them threw the attic but the one to the master bed, he ran under the ground.

The one to the other 2 rooms he went threw the previous holes. from the dish outside to the rooms.

And the one to the living room he ended up instead going threw the attic, he ran it on the floor of the porch threw the wall to the living room.

But he gave me extra wire on all of them. and hooked up the dvr for me.

He was very nice. Ended up doing all the extra work for 60 under the table.

Very professional person, plugged up all the holes etc.

The switchers on the outside are uncovered. Do they need to be covered or would you guys recommend it?

Thanks!