Maximum Dish to Multiswitch Distance

[topflight70]

My in-laws live in a fairly rural area and have alot of tree coverage around the house.

However, at the end of the driveway, there is an absolutely perfect shot of the sky.

The catch... it's about 400 feet from the house. And then there would be cable runs from the multi to the receivers (that would probably be 30 feet or less).

Any thoughts on running this kind of distance??:scratchin

[litzdog911]

RG11 coax can handle that. But with the current dishes you'll need FOUR 400-ft RG11 coax cables from the dish to your house where the multiswitch will be located. That's expensive. But check out the new "first look" for the new satellite dish that includes a built-in Single Wire Multiswitch. I'm just not sure how the "SWMLine" dish will work with the required Power Inserter that far away from the dish.

[K4SMX]

Couldn't you run the AC to the dish and place the power inserter there in a weatherproof housing? With as little power as it draws, you could probably get away with 14 gauge.

[RobertE]

Chainsaw

[TigersFanJJ]

Any thoughts on running this kind of distance??:scratchin

My thoughts are, don't expect it to be included in the free install. :D

[jhillestad]

My in-laws live in a fairly rural area and have alot of tree coverage around the house.

However, at the end of the driveway, there is an absolutely perfect shot of the sky.

The catch... it's about 400 feet from the house. And then there would be cable runs from the multi to the receivers (that would probably be 30 feet or less).

Any thoughts on running this kind of distance??:scratchin

Roll out 400 feet of rg-59 and crimp a connector on each side.

Should be simple....


--- just kidding ! --- try rg-6 instead.

but my vote is for the chainsaw.

[carl6]

Roll out 400 feet of rg-59 and crimp a connector on each side.



Hey, if you're going to do it wrong go all the way: twist on connectors :lol:

[David MacLeod]

Hey, if you're going to do it wrong go all the way: twist on connectors :lol:

you can do better, no connections. stick center wire into hole and wrap ground around threads :)

[hdtvfan0001]

you can do better, no connections. stick center wire into hole and wrap ground around threads :)
I think I'm going to be ill. :eek2: :lol:

[BattleZone]

you can do better, no connections. stick center wire into hole and wrap ground around threads :)

I was in an attic one time where the customer had spliced their own lines together by stripping them back and twisting the stingers together. For some reason, those lines didn't seem to be passing current to the LNB... :sure:

[David MacLeod]

lol, wonder why ????

[kevinm34232]

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Funny you should say that. This was 2 days ago on Saturday. Disregard the date stamp on my camera the batteries always die. This picture was exactly how it looked when I got there. Workorder said 'upgrade'. LOL.

[avmaster]

around 150 ft is the limit for RG6 without a line amp. I would say realisticly around 200 would be feasable, but the siginal loss beyond that is too much.

You will need 4 line amps. 400 feet is one long assed run of cable!!

[David MacLeod]

would a powered multiswitch at the house help with this length?

[BattleZone]

would a powered multiswitch at the house help with this length?

IMO, a powered multiswitch AND RG11 runs would be *required* in order for there to be any chance of having it work. It would NOT work with RG6 without a line amplifier in the middle of the run, and given your description, that is far less practical than RG11 anyway.

[David MacLeod]

so there is less line loss in rg-11 then right?

[carl6]

I don't think he would actually need in-line amps. The biggest concern is DC voltage drop from the receiver to the dish. Signal attentuation from the dish to the receiver is a lesser issue.

RG11 has a larger center conductor, which will carry the DC voltage better. You might be able to make this work using RG6 with solid copper center conductor, but it would be marginal at that distance.

If there is any way to put power mid-way, then a Sonora power inserter midstream would solve your problem.

Otherwise, many people have done 400 feet reliably using RG11.

Carl

[David MacLeod]

on a run that long in cold climates do you bury under the frost line to maintain a fairly steady temperature (and therefore resistance) or does it not matter?

[bjflynn04]

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Funny you should say that. This was 2 days ago on Saturday. Disregard the date stamp on my camera the batteries always die. This picture was exactly how it looked when I got there. Workorder said 'upgrade'. LOL.

OMG is all I have to say about that one.

[jbwjbw]

would a powered multiswitch at the house help with this length?

I use to have a non-powered multi switch located at my two dishes (one for locals) but had issues now and then. I moved the multi-switch into the house after running another cable and it was even worse. I picked up a SAM-4803 which is powered and it works great! The distance from the multi-switch to my dishes are about 250 feet or so and I'm using direct burial RG6. YMMV. I don't do HD but the SAM-4803 does work well with my 101 and 72.5 dishes.

- Justin

[babzog]

Chainsaw

LOL

That was my solution. More in anther post, but in a nutshell... everything is coming off the roof, so I've just cleared about 10 trees (to build a tower with a clear view of the sky), incl a giant old white pine (which is headed to the sawmill very soon).

Chainsaw is a very cheap solution.

[Mertzen]

on a run that long in cold climates do you bury under the frost line to maintain a fairly steady temperature (and therefore resistance) or does it not matter?

I am not sur eabout resistance but also keep in consideration the amount of shrinking and expansion of the center conductor at low and high temps. It could lead to issues at the LNB and or switch.

[K4SMX]

......Chainsaw is a very cheap solution.
I don't see "chain saws" listed under "Ways to be green" at the new DirecTV Website page, Think Green (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4560080). :)

It's a good thing you've done this now. In the future you'd be denied a permit.....