ESPNU HD When On DirecTv?

[SatliteHD]

Does anyone know when Directv might carry ESPNU in HD? This would be so nice with the new Football season coming up?

[Michael D'Angelo]

DIRECTV will start carrying ESPNU HD at the end of August. That is when I believe ESPNU will start broadcasting in HD too.

[SatliteHD]

DIRECTV will start carrying ESPNU HD at the end of August. That is when I believe ESPNU will start broadcasting in HD too.

Wow thats awesome thanks!

[Michael D'Angelo]

BTW :welcome_s to DBSTalk, SatliteHD!

[SatliteHD]

BTW :welcome_s to DBSTalk, SatliteHD!

Thank You! Nice to be here sorry for the typo on Directv lol.

[Richard King]

Thank You! Nice to be here sorry for the typo on Directv lol.
Typo fixed and thread moved to DirecTv programming area. Welcome to DBSTalk. :D

[Stealth87]

Is ESPN still building a California HD studio? Maybe ESPNU will be broadcast from there?

[Steve615]

:welcome_s to the site.The following link contains a press release from ESPN (dated 3/17/08) in regards to future HD channels coming from them.The article does not name any service providers in particular,but it does give info about what new ESPN channels are coming in the future.You will have to scroll down to the bottom of that page for the ESPNU HD info.

http://espnmediazone.com/press_releases/2008_03_mar/20080317_ESPNEWSHDToDebutMarch30.htm



Does anyone know when Directv might carry ESPNU in HD? This would be so nice with the new Football season coming up?

[dodge boy]

I wish they'd include this channel in thir gamplan... after all even the NFL Networj comes with NFLST

[jrodfoo]

http://espnmediazone.com/press_releases/2008_07_jul/20080728_ESPNUGoesHDinTimeforCollegeFootballSeason onAug.28MoreThan70ExclusiveGamesonTap.htm

it just mentions that it's currently on directv in SD, no mention of anythng else really of not..

[zimm7778]

I wish they'd include this channel in thir gamplan... after all even the NFL Networj comes with NFLST

Other than Total Choice family, doesnt every other base package come with NFL Sunday Ticket?

[iceturkee]

just curious, but did satelliteracer confirm this? last i read was it wasn't confirmed and that was last week!

[BigJ52]

just curious, but did satelliteracer confirm this? last i read was it wasn't confirmed and that was last week!

Don't think it's confirmed, and according to what Sat Racer said in another thread on this subject we might not want to get our hopes up on this either.

[dcowboy7]

i give it a 38.7% chance.

[heisman6183]

Has anyone heard an update on this? I would hope DirecTV picks this up right away since the have CBS college sports HD as well.

[jefbal99]

I believe that satelliteracer mentioned in a different thread about this topic that ESPNU HD would not be carried by D*, at launch, but shortly there after.

With September 4th being tossed around as the next national HD launch, I would look for it then.

[dcowboy7]

DIRECTV will start carrying ESPNU HD at the end of August. That is when I believe ESPNU will start broadcasting in HD too.

next thursday then i guess.

[jefbal99]

next thursday then i guess.

Notice the date stamp on that post, then notice the date stamp on these posts from satelliteracer (a confirmed DirecTV employee that has been feeding us very accurate info on channel releases)

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1748631&postcount=21
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1712163&postcount=26

When Michael D'Angelo posted that back in June, it was assumed that D* would carry it at launch. Actually, the 2nd post I linked to satelliteracer even quoted Michael and said he didn't think the info was accurate.

[tommy_mc]

Notice the date stamp on that post, then notice the date stamp on these posts from satelliteracer (a confirmed DirecTV employee that has been feeding us very accurate info on channel releases)

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1748631&postcount=21
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1712163&postcount=26

When Michael D'Angelo posted that back in June, it was assumed that D* would carry it at launch. Actually, the 2nd post I linked to satelliteracer even quoted Michael and said he didn't think the info was accurate.

I just assumed they'd follow a similar launch as what happened with ESPN News HD. That channel went live by itself the day it launched (IIRC).

[ARKDTVfan]

the real question is what are the odds of this moving from the sports pack
I'd love to have ESPNU when it goes HD but not for $12 a month
al carte for say a buck would work

[harsh]

the real question is what are the odds of this moving from the sports pack I'd love to have ESPNU when it goes HD but not for $12 a month al carte for say a buck would work I'm thinking you would have to go out a couple of decimal places to represent the percentage likelihood.

Unless ESPN pulls some major strings, ESPNU will remain in everyone's sports package.

[ActiveHDdave]

I was listening to The Heard on ESPN radio yesterday. His radio show will be broadcast starting Monday on ESPNU.

Amanda... Dress hot for us

[Herdfan]

Amanda... Dress hot for us

Please, please, please. :)

I will be glad for this to be on TV so I can have it on in my office after Mike & Mike and not have to deal with a radio.

[Steve4242]

I wrote to DirecTV customer service asking if they were going to add ESPNU HD when it starts in late August and here was their reply:

Response (Generoso B. - 100132932) - 08/23/2008 04:17 PM
Dear MR. XXXXXX,

Thanks for writing.

While we don't have plans to add ESPN in HD at this time, we're working to bring you even more HD channels in the near future. I have forwarded your request to DIRECTV management. Stay tuned to directv.com/hd to keep up with the latest HD news.

Sincerely,

Gene B.
Employee ID xxxxxxxx
DIRECTV Customer Service

Catch up to 14 games every week this fall with NFL SUNDAY TICKET, now available at directv.com/nfl.

[TheRatPatrol]

i'm reading that espn wants directv to carry espnu hd with the other espn channels and directv wants to keep it in the sports pak. hence, it might be awhile before we see it!
Where are you reading this at, do you have link? Thanks

[arwalke]

I've read August 28 as the launch date for ESPNU HD...to coincide with the first Thursday night college football games of the season. I would assume DirecTV will add the U in HD as soon as it's available.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I've read August 28 as the launch date for ESPNU HD...to coincide with the first Thursday night college football games of the season. I would assume DirecTV will add the U in HD as soon as it's available.

August 28th is the date that ESPNU HD will launch and a lot of us assumed it would be picked up by DIRECTV right away or shortly after that but it is not looking that way as of right now.

[dcowboy7]

i'm reading that espn wants directv to carry espnu hd with the other espn channels and directv wants to keep it in the sports pak. hence, it might be awhile before we see it!

whenever u make a statement like that always think "mod squad"....pete, julie & linc.

ok not spelled the same but.

[harsh]

Perhaps this is another one of those nuggets of information that came in verbal form only. Podcasts are a most excellent way to store information in a form that cannot easily be searched or validated.

[tvjay]

I've read August 28 as the launch date for ESPNU HD...to coincide with the first Thursday night college football games of the season. I would assume DirecTV will add the U in HD as soon as it's available.

I hope so.....This is the first time in five years that I have had Saturdays off so I am looking forward to watching Bowling Green play in HD on Saturdays!

[Jason Whiddon]

August 28th is the date that ESPNU HD will launch and a lot of us assumed it would be picked up by DIRECTV right away or shortly after that but it is not looking that way as of right now.


As much as Id hope so, I wouldnt count my chickens.

[tommy_mc]

I wrote DirecTV customer service last week re: ESPNU-HD and got back the following reply. I have a strong feeling that this was a canned response and doesn't actually mean anything.

"I understand your anxiousness to be able to watch your favorite games in HD. While we don't have plans to add ESPNU in HD at this time, we're working to bring you even more HD channels in the near future. Stay tuned to directv.com/hd to keep up with the latest HD news.

I have also forwarded your feedback on to the DIRECTV Management so your voice will be heard.

Thanks again for writing and for giving us the opportunity to respond to your concerns."

[GC71388]

ESPN pays $2.25B for SEC rights

ESPN will pay the Southeastern Conference a staggering $2.25 billion over the next 15 years, about $150 million a year for the conference’s TV rights, giving the network all of the SEC’s content that was not taken by CBS, industry sources confirm.

The deal effectively ends any conversation of a conference network, and it knocks Raycom Sports (formerly Lincoln Financial and Jefferson Pilot) out of the SEC’s distribution business for the first time since 1986, when JP Sports began distributing SEC basketball.

Combined with the 15-year, $55 million a year that the SEC will receive from CBS for the over-the-air package of games (SportsBusiness Journal, Aug. 18-24), the conference will bring in an average of $205 million annually in media rights beginning in 2009-10 and running through fiscal 2025.

That’s nearly three times what the SEC had been receiving in TV revenue as part of its current deal, which runs out next spring. That amounted to around $70 million per year.

SEC athletic directors met in Orlando last week to finalize the deal, which is expected to be announced later this week.

What won’t be announced next week, though, is a forthcoming agreement between ESPN and Comcast that will initially put ESPNU in about 7 million Comcast homes. That deal could be finalized in the coming weeks and could potentially give ESPNU full digital basic distribution of around 14 million homes on the country’s biggest cable operator. ESPNU, which is in 25 million homes, previously had failed to gain carriage on Comcast, but this deal eventually could push it to reach about 40 million homes, a critical threshold for advertising, industry sources say.

ESPN’s syndication arm, ESPN Regional Television, will handle syndication to local broadcasters throughout the Southeast. It also will make regional cable packages available to cable channels, such as Comcast/Charter Sports Southeast and Fox RSNs.

ESPN’s strategy is to secure high-quality
programming for its networks
and broadband platforms.“These extraordinary numbers reflect the continuing increase in value for major college sports,” said Neal Pilson, a TV consultant and former CBS Sports president. “We’re seeing significant increases in value at the conference level and we’re also going to see it for the BCS in the near future. As we’re seeing with the Olympics, sports have a built-in, not recession-proof, but recession-resistant quality. There’s a resiliency in terms of audience and ratings.”

ESPN’s aggressive bid is part of a strategy to secure high-quality programming for its networks and broadband platforms, while keeping the SEC from launching its own cable channel that eventually could compete with ESPN.

And Raycom, which had been in talks with the SEC to the end, likely lost out because it was not able to match the size of ESPN’s bid or the number of platforms it can use.

The SEC’s total payout to its schools in 2007-08 was $63.6 million after the conference’s cut. TV revenue is distributed among the 12 universities and the league; each school received about $5.3 million this past fiscal year. Under the new deal, that annual number could leap to as much as $15 million per school, which is just shy of the projected average revenue Big Ten schools get from their TV deals each year.

It is difficult to make an apples-to-apples comparison between the two conferences because of the incongruity of the length of the deals and their escalating values. But the Big Ten Network could annually pay its schools an average up to $10.2 million each over the 25-year term of its deal with the Big Ten. The deal started this past year with a payment of $6 million to each school and the number could escalate each year, depending on the network’s revenue.

The Big Ten Conference’s 10-year deals with CBS and ESPN will produce an average of $9.3 million for each school.

“By not going with a channel, the SEC gave more value to its broadcast and cable partners,” Pilson said. “You don’t have the dilution of audience. And 15 years out, it’s hard to know what the marketplace will look like, but the SEC will be taking another bite of the apple” at that time.

ESPN’s package of games will include the SEC basketball tournament finals, which previously were televised by CBS. ESPN also is expected to offer an expanded package of regular-season basketball games across its networks.

[Jason Whiddon]

Woohoo!!

[tf92]

If ESPNU starts carrying some of the SEC games I guess I will have to add the sports package even though I sure don't want to, more reasons for DirecTV to move it from the sports package.

[RAD]

I wrote DirecTV customer service last week re: ESPNU-HD and got back the following reply. I have a strong feeling that this was a canned response and doesn't actually mean anything.

"I understand your anxiousness to be able to watch your favorite games in HD. While we don't have plans to add ESPNU in HD at this time, we're working to bring you even more HD channels in the near future. Stay tuned to directv.com/hd to keep up with the latest HD news.

I have also forwarded your feedback on to the DIRECTV Management so your voice will be heard.

Thanks again for writing and for giving us the opportunity to respond to your concerns."


Gee, sure looks like canned response #27, here's what I got when asking about WGN America lass week:

"Thanks for writing. While we don't have plans to add WGN America in HD at this time, we're working to bring you even more HD channels in the near future. Stay tuned to directv.com/hd to keep up with the latest HD news."

[tonyd79]

If ESPNU starts carrying some of the SEC games I guess I will have to add the sports package even though I sure don't want to, more reasons for DirecTV to move it from the sports package.

No, reason for them *not* to move it. You would be willing to pay the extra for the games.

[dcowboy7]

TV Sports Notes
ESPNU Goes HD
Launches with football telecast on Thursday
By Glen Dickson, Broadcasting & Cable, 8/25/2008

College-sports dedicated network ESPNU will step up to high-definition this week, as ESPNU HD launches Thursday with a live telecast of the football game between Vanderbilt and Miami of Ohio at 7:30 p.m. ET.

Within the first year of its launch, ESPNU HD plans to air more than 200 events in the 720-line progressive (720p) HD format, including all of its Thursday and Saturday live college football games as well as college basketball, lacrosse, baseball, softball, volleyball, wrestling and hockey. The network will be the fourth HD network offered by sports giant ESPN, following ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNNews; ESPN-produced HD sports coverage also airs on corporate cousin ABC.

ESPN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.

“ESPNU going HD is a natural progression of this robust brand and we look forward to serving all of our college sports fans this season and for seasons to come with this high-quality service,” said Rosalyn Durant, vice president and general manager of ESPNU, in a statement. “Since the advent of HD, fans have told us that nothing beats the HD viewing experience – especially when it comes to their favorite sports and teams.”

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451

[RAD]

Scott at StaGuys says a contact he has at ESPN says a deal has been signed with E* but it won't debut there until later in the year, and nothing has been signed with D* as of last week to add it.

[commodore_dude]

ESPN’s syndication arm, ESPN Regional Television, will handle syndication to local broadcasters throughout the Southeast. It also will make regional cable packages available to cable channels, such as Comcast/Charter Sports Southeast and Fox RSNs.

Great, so when are we going to get CSS on D*? Not that I particularly enjoy watching the abysmal video quality compared to the big Comcast Sportsnets, but if there's going to be a significant amount of SEC content on there I'll have to go back to cable unless DirecTV steps up...

[tommy_mc]

Great, so when are we going to get CSS on D*? Not that I particularly enjoy watching the abysmal video quality compared to the big Comcast Sportsnets, but if there's going to be a significant amount of SEC content on there I'll have to go back to cable unless DirecTV steps up...

Would CSS be blacked out if you ordered ESPN Gameplan? I can typically follow the Dores via Gameplan, but I'm not in an SEC territory.

[commodore_dude]

Would CSS be blacked out if you ordered ESPN Gameplan? I can typically follow the Dores via Gameplan, but I'm not in an SEC territory.

I've seen mixed results in the past, I'd say 90% of college sports on the RSNs aren't blacked out, but ACC and SEC sports tend to have the highest chance of being blacked out. I haven't had Gameplan in a couple of years but when I did most of the time if a game was on an RSN and Gameplan both channels were viewable, it was only rarely on some of the NYC RSNs that something was blacked out on the RSN but viewable on Gameplan. Sometimes games on local Atlanta stations were blacked out on the Gameplan channel and sometimes not. Of course until D* gets CSS (and probably CST, they'll have some ESPN Regional games as well) this is a moot point :(

[erosroadie]

I wrote to DirecTV customer service asking if they were going to add ESPNU HD when it starts in late August and here was their reply:

Response (Generoso B. - 100132932) - 08/23/2008 04:17 PM
Dear MR. XXXXXX,

Thanks for writing.

While we don't have plans to add ESPN in HD at this time, we're working to bring you even more HD channels in the near future. I have forwarded your request to DIRECTV management. Stay tuned to directv.com/hd to keep up with the latest HD news.

Sincerely,

Gene B.
Employee ID xxxxxxxx
DIRECTV Customer Service

Catch up to 14 games every week this fall with NFL SUNDAY TICKET, now available at directv.com/nfl.


Here is what I found today. Doesn't appear that D* is in the mix presently.....

(http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6589992.html)

ESPNU Goes HD
Launches with football telecast on Thursday
By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/25/2008 12:41:00 PM


College-sports dedicated network ESPNU will step up to high-definition this week, as ESPNU HD launches Thursday with a live telecast of the football game between Vanderbilt and Miami of Ohio at 7:30 p.m. ET.


Within the first year of its launch, ESPNU HD plans to air more than 200 events in the 720-line progressive (720p) HD format, including all of its Thursday and Saturday live college football games as well as college basketball, lacrosse, baseball, softball, volleyball, wrestling and hockey. The network will be the fourth HD network offered by sports giant ESPN, following ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNNews; ESPN-produced HD sports coverage also airs on corporate cousin ABC.


ESN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.


“ESPNU going HD is a natural progression of this robust brand and we look forward to serving all of our college sports fans this season and for seasons to come with this high-quality service,” said Rosalyn Durant, vice president and general manager of ESPNU, in a statement. “Since the advent of HD, fans have told us that nothing beats the HD viewing experience – especially when it comes to their favorite sports and teams.”

[Jason Whiddon]

Maybe satracer will throw us a bone when he can.

[BWELL316]

I will be extremely dissappointed if ESPNU ends up being like the Big Ten Network last season, ie, 2 or 3 weeks before we get it in HD. It's not like they don't have the capacity, step up and sign something D*TV!

[mightythor88]

wow - this is def a bummer. :nono: After the weak HD rollout 10days ago, I thought we would get U in HD on Thursday without a doubt. Hopefully someone at Directv actually cares about the customers and works out a deal in the next 3 days.

[ShawnL25]

We always new there would be nothing new before 9-4-08 there is still a chance it is included next week.

[hdthebest]

WOW I thought D* would get this, I actually thought that was the reason for Thursday launches I guess I was wrong.

[dcowboy7]

TV Sports Notes
ESPNU Goes HD
Launches with football telecast on Thursday
By Glen Dickson, Broadcasting & Cable, 8/25/2008

College-sports dedicated network ESPNU will step up to high-definition this week, as ESPNU HD launches Thursday with a live telecast of the football game between Vanderbilt and Miami of Ohio at 7:30 p.m. ET.

Within the first year of its launch, ESPNU HD plans to air more than 200 events in the 720-line progressive (720p) HD format, including all of its Thursday and Saturday live college football games as well as college basketball, lacrosse, baseball, softball, volleyball, wrestling and hockey. The network will be the fourth HD network offered by sports giant ESPN, following ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNNews; ESPN-produced HD sports coverage also airs on corporate cousin ABC.

ESPN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.

“ESPNU going HD is a natural progression of this robust brand and we look forward to serving all of our college sports fans this season and for seasons to come with this high-quality service,” said Rosalyn Durant, vice president and general manager of ESPNU, in a statement. “Since the advent of HD, fans have told us that nothing beats the HD viewing experience – especially when it comes to their favorite sports and teams.”

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451

Here is what I found today. Doesn't appear that D* is in the mix presently.....

(http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6589992.html)

ESPNU Goes HD
Launches with football telecast on Thursday
By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/25/2008 12:41:00 PM


College-sports dedicated network ESPNU will step up to high-definition this week, as ESPNU HD launches Thursday with a live telecast of the football game between Vanderbilt and Miami of Ohio at 7:30 p.m. ET.


Within the first year of its launch, ESPNU HD plans to air more than 200 events in the 720-line progressive (720p) HD format, including all of its Thursday and Saturday live college football games as well as college basketball, lacrosse, baseball, softball, volleyball, wrestling and hockey. The network will be the fourth HD network offered by sports giant ESPN, following ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNNews; ESPN-produced HD sports coverage also airs on corporate cousin ABC.


ESN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.


“ESPNU going HD is a natural progression of this robust brand and we look forward to serving all of our college sports fans this season and for seasons to come with this high-quality service,” said Rosalyn Durant, vice president and general manager of ESPNU, in a statement. “Since the advent of HD, fans have told us that nothing beats the HD viewing experience – especially when it comes to their favorite sports and teams.”

that looks familiar. :D

[jleupen]

ESPN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.

If Time Warner Cincinnati has ESPNU HD before D*, I will take that as the first sign of the apocalypse...

[guins]

I'd like to have ESPNU but I will not buy the sports pack for it. :nono2:

[Paul A]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl thinks ESPNU in HD will be launched..... Soon.

[tf92]

I'd like to have ESPNU but I will not buy the sports pack for it. :nono2:

I would think since Dish offers it in one of their regular packages DirecTV would be wise to start offering it now especially since the SEC deal with ESPN has been signed. I had Dish in 2005 but if I was looking right now between the 2, I would have to take that into consideration on which one I would choose. I will wait until next year and see what happens before I consider buying the sports package for just that one channel. I could live without ESPNU but I follow the SEC closely so I would be forced into buying the package just to watch the SEC games on ESPNU.

[cforrest]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl thinks ESPNU in HD will be launched..... Soon.

She didn't happen to overhear that guy at Baskin-Robbins did she? :lol:

[Lee L]

Personally, I am not worried. DirecTV has stated many times that they are the HD Leader. The HD Leader will definitely have this channel right from the start, otherwise, how can they call themselves that? ;) ;) ;)

[Jason Whiddon]

Im not worried either, its just irritating that they arent ready for this one at launch. Still not as bad as how long it took Dish to add SciFi, and the fact they still dont have FX.

[justlgi]

Personally, I am not worried. DirecTV has stated many times that they are the HD Leader. The HD Leader will definitely have this channel right from the start, otherwise, how can they call themselves that? ;) ;) ;)

Lots and lots of HD PPV ... seems to be the tactic.

/I'm just kidding!
//Can't we all just get along? :D

[swans]

I'd like to have ESPNU but I will not buy the sports pack for it. :nono2:

ESPN doesn't want it in the sports pack and DirecTV does.

I know I wouldn't mind having it, but I'm not sure I would buy the sports pack. ESPN is putting alot of money into SEC sports. I don't think they would appreciate DirecTV putting up a road block.

[dcowboy7]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl thinks ESPNU in HD will be launched..... Soon.

she is right....espnuhd is launching thursday.

[sdk009]

she is right....espnuhd is launching thursday.

Yea, we know that. This discussion is whether it will launch Thursday ON D*!!

[dcowboy7]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl thinks ESPNU in HD will be launched..... Soon.

she is right....espnuhd is launching thursday.

Yea, we know that. This discussion is whether it will launch Thursday ON D*!!

i know....but the above statement wasnt specific to directv....it just said launched.

[VARTV]

Yea, we know that. This discussion is whether it will launch Thursday ON D*!!According to an article at Broadcasting & Cable (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6589992.html), there is no agreement between ESPNU-HD and DirecTV... yet... :(

[byrdpack]

According to an article at Broadcasting & Cable (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6589992.html), there is no agreement between ESPNU-HD and DirecTV... yet... :(

Very disappointing. :(

[tvjay]

Very disappointing. :(

Very much so because I got the sports pack just for ESPNU so I can watch my team, and I was REALLY hoping to watch it in HD. Although I guess I could always watch it in my own version of HD.....I could just go to the game instead which I think cost more then the sports pack.

[tf92]

If I was ESPN I would not let DirecTV have it until they made ESPNU available to more subscribers without having to add the sports package to get it. I mean there are several who are not going to pay the extra $12 to get ESPNU and ESPN knows that, they put out all that money and I would think that they would want the maximum number of households being able to view their network and watching th adds as possible.

[lovswr]

DIRECTV will start carrying ESPNU HD at the end of August. That is when I believe ESPNU will start broadcasting in HD too.

I hope you are correct, but it does not look to be so.

[Jason Whiddon]

If I was ESPN I would not let DirecTV have it until they made ESPNU available to more subscribers without having to add the sports package to get it. I mean there are several who are not going to pay the extra $12 to get ESPNU and ESPN knows that, they put out all that money and I would think that they would want the maximum number of households being able to view their network and watching th adds as possible.

I agree, with the ESPN-SEC deal all of their channels will be showing hd games. They need to be in the reg packs.

[lovswr]

If ESPNU starts carrying some of the SEC games I guess I will have to add the sports package even though I sure don't want to, more reasons for DirecTV to move it from the sports package.

Actually, this is more reason for D* to be a holdout & get subs like you to start paying for the sports package.


I'm pissed that ESPNU-HD will not be starting this Thursday

[bwaldron]

If I was ESPN I would not let DirecTV have it until they made ESPNU available to more subscribers without having to add the sports package to get it. I mean there are several who are not going to pay the extra $12 to get ESPNU and ESPN knows that, they put out all that money and I would think that they would want the maximum number of households being able to view their network and watching th adds as possible.

So everyone is OK with all subscribers subsidizing Disney on this? Knowing their tactics, I'm sure they're asking for a good chunk of change -- if it's not placed in the sports pack, then everyone's rates will go up.

I personally am a major sports fan, have the sports pack, and will be disappointed if we don't get the channel soon. But I also appreciate that negotiations are a two-way street.

IMHO, DirecTV has earned some slack in the HD sports department. They know we want this channel, they want to carry it as the "HD sports leader" -- but not at any price.

[dcowboy7]

can we start that a la carte discussion again ?

[Jason Whiddon]

can we start that a la carte discussion again ?


I would not mind a small fee every month to get everything ESPN. Kinda like the $5.99 HD extra pack. If anything, ESPNU should go into it and not the sports pack.

[man_rob]

When you feel the urge to tune into ESPNU, just watch one of the thirtysomething HD PPVs. College Road Trip (HD) is playing. Well, at least it has something to do with college.

[Paul A]

When you feel the urge to tune into ESPNU, just watch one of the thirtysomething HD PPVs. College Road Trip (HD) is playing. Well, at least it has something to do with college.

Excellent Idea - I'm surfing now!

Wow, cowabunga!

Whoa, wait a minute dude, like where are all the cool nationals in HD like everyone wants. nothing but PPV here.

I'm outta here, dude

[Jason Whiddon]

One would think they could use the extra PPV revenue to pay espn.

[Paul A]

Very disappointing. :(

+1

[Paul A]

One would think they could use the extra PPV revenue to pay espn.

Now That's Funny!!! :lol: :lol:

[woj027]

I'm not sure if its the Majority, but I will not pay the extra cash to have ESPNU HD via sports pack. I will have to suffer with my local RSN, ESPN, CBS, ABC, TBS, (did I miss any) to watch college football.

I want it in my Plus HD DVR package (base: Choice).

I hope it's like one poster said. ESPN is trying to force ESPNU HD to be carried on a broader package.

I'm also cancelling my $4.99 for those extra HD channels too. Spending money on things I don't need now the Olympics are over (yes, I had to pay for it during the Olympics)

[lance30276]

Do you think espn is holding espn hd back to put both espn sd & espn hd in the basic pack?...... or directv is refusing to pay extra for the espn hd since they probably pay for espn sd........ or both?

[dcowboy7]

I will have to suffer with my local RSN, ESPN, CBS, ABC, TBS, (did I miss any) to watch college football.


yes....NBC, NFLN.

[jefbal99]

yes....NBC, NFLN.

And Big Ten Network

[sum_random_dork]

one other network that does college...Versus they tend to do one game on Saturdays a lot of the bigger Pac 10 games are on there. As for ESPNU HD, I would guess it's about the money ESPN wants it moved down but then wants to be paid for all the sub on that level. That being said with the SEC contract I would think if nothing happens soon, by next football season when that contract kicks in you'll see ESPNU HD.

[bwaldron]

That being said with the SEC contract I would think if nothing happens soon, by next football season when that contract kicks in you'll see ESPNU HD.

I'm sure we will see it before then. Bottom line is that it is ultimately in the best interest of both parties to get the channel onto DirecTV, whether Sports Pack or not. Doesn't mean that negotiations won't be difficult or somewhat drawn out, but a deal will get done. IMHO, of course.

[DC_SnDvl]

I'm not sure if its the Majority, but I will not pay the extra cash to have ESPNU HD via sports pack. I will have to suffer with my local RSN, ESPN, CBS, ABC, TBS, (did I miss any) to watch college football.

I want it in my Plus HD DVR package (base: Choice).

I hope it's like one poster said. ESPN is trying to force ESPNU HD to be carried on a broader package.

I'm also cancelling my $4.99 for those extra HD channels too. Spending money on things I don't need now the Olympics are over (yes, I had to pay for it during the Olympics)

Why, they had them free in the 750's

[tf92]

Actually, this is more reason for D* to be a holdout & get subs like you to start paying for the sports package.


I'm pissed that ESPNU-HD will not be starting this Thursday


I guess there is always Dish network to go too and save that $12 a month even though I have no plans to go back to Dish, I just added a R-16 to my account so I am locked in for 2 more years.

[Billsfan69]

I'm sure we will see it before then. Bottom line is that it is ultimately in the best interest of both parties to get the channel onto DirecTV, whether Sports Pack or not. Doesn't mean that negotiations won't be difficult or somewhat drawn out, but a deal will get done. IMHO, of course.

Name one sports channel out there we don't receive. The mtn is coming this week. We still have ESPNU even if for now only in SD, have the Big Ten Network, the NHL network, NBA TV, The NFL network all in HD and here in Buffalo I get FSN Pittsburgh for the Pirates with the Sports Pack and get STO for the Indians. The only channels Time Warner carries in Buffalo are the NHL network only in SD, NBA TV only in SD, The NFL network, hmm nowhere to be found, and no way would I ever get the other two channels with cable. We will have ESPNU in HD and I predict before college football season is over.

[Lee L]

Wow, only one more day until this channel comes on. I can't wait to watch it on the HD Leader tomorrow night! Of course, this is just an assumption on my part due to DirecTVs Clear HD Leadership. If it is on a cable system which has only 50 HD channels, surely it will be on the Leader. :p

[TheRatPatrol]

Name one sports channel out there we don't receive. The mtn is coming this week. We still have ESPNU even if for now only in SD, have the Big Ten Network, the NHL network, NBA TV, The NFL network all in HD and here in Buffalo I get FSN Pittsburgh for the Pirates with the Sports Pack and get STO for the Indians. The only channels Time Warner carries in Buffalo are the NHL network only in SD, NBA TV only in SD, The NFL network, hmm nowhere to be found, and no way would I ever get the other two channels with cable. We will have ESPNU in HD and I predict before college football season is over.
I can name two, CSN-Philly and CSN-Northwest. ;)

[tommy_mc]

I have a feeling the many posters who have mentioned that ESPN is trying to push D* to move ESPNU out of the Sports Pack are correct. With the announcement of the SEC - ESPN deal a couple days ago, it's pretty clear now that ESPN is going to really step up the content on ESPNU going forward. ESPN is already in talks to expand ESPNU to 7M Comcast subs, most likely in the South (read SEC country). This should expand to 14M subs eventually.

I imagine that we (D* customers) are getting stuck in the middle of contract negotiations. D* needs to realize that having ESPNU on the Sports Pack will put them at a competitive disadvantage going forward as more cable co's add ESPNU on their basic tiers. Let's just hope ESPNU isn't charging as much the Big Ten Network or the NFL Network.

Crossing my fingers for tomorrow.

[ycebar]

I can name two, CSN-Philly and CSN-Northwest. ;)

But even though Directv does not carry them either does my local cable company since I am not anywhere near Philly or Oregon

[bwaldron]

I can name two, CSN-Philly and CSN-Northwest. ;)

I knew someone was going to mention them ;)

[tommy_mc]

I can name two, CSN-Philly and CSN-Northwest. ;)

Add CSS to that list (http://www.csssports.com/pages/main).

[commodore_dude]

Add CSS to that list.

Beat me to it! I'm getting really tired of not getting the UGA sports (basketball and baseball) on here, plus an extra 2 or 3 football games every Saturday (they're usually exclusive, CSS does most of their own production although it is crappy). Also don't forget CST in New Orleans, they have some exclusive college sports as well...

[Lee L]

Well, hopefully, the new ESPN SEC deal will take those games off of CSS and it wont matter.

[Wildcat]

I've got another one...Fox College Sports.

We'll see if Iowa State is on Channel 617 for everyone this weekend (I think tomorrow night), or if it's just available in Iowa.

[Herdfan]

Doesn't mean that negotiations won't be difficult or somewhat drawn out, but a deal will get done. IMHO, of course.

I for one can't believe the deal is not already done. How long ago did ESPN announce this channel was going HD? This should have been part of the ESPNewsHD agreement.

[bwaldron]

I for one can't believe the deal is not already done.

Well, if you're right then we should be seeing the channel at launch, since transponder space is no longer a limiting factor.

[pbg]

I for one can't believe the deal is not already done. How long ago did ESPN announce this channel was going HD? This should have been part of the ESPNewsHD agreement.

I think if we’ve learned anything in watching these types of negations from the sidelines is that the announcement date of a channel coming into existence or going HD has little to with when, or if Direct decides to picks it up

[Herdfan]

^^^^^

Very true. I mean the outgoing owner of DirecTV didn't even manage to save a place/get carriage agreement for his flagship station all the while allowing the incoming owner to get carriage for two HD only channels.

[Paul A]

I for one can't believe the deal is not already done. How long ago did ESPN announce this channel was going HD? This should have been part of the ESPNewsHD agreement.

Apparently, there are a few deals not done, so we wait for more national HDs.

Lame.

[SPACEMAKER]

D* likes to boast of being the HD leader and they always do a great job with the HD channels for the Masters, US Open, etc. But when it comes to carrying the HD versions of channels like Travel HD and ESPNUHD they kind of suck. They already have the SD versions. Is it really that much of a leap to carryt the HD versions?

[byrdpack]

did espnu-hd come on this morning?

[Herdfan]

No! :(

[VandyCWG]

did espnu-hd come on this morning?

sadly...no!

[Ryan]

In my thinking DirecTV and ESPN have a couple channels reversed relative to which package includes them: ESPNU and ESPN Classic. Classic should be moved to the sports package, since it's really only an archive-type channel, specific to sports. U should be moved to the core packages as it's providing news and coverage of current sporting events appealing to a wider audience.

I guess I could tolerate if ESPNU-HD was part of the HD-Extra tier in the core packages, although no extra charge would be preferable. But I can see the logic: HD access already gets you three ESPN channels in HD, HD extra would get you an extra one.

[TheRatPatrol]

Just curious, does anyone know if any other provider has launched it yet?

Thanks

[iceturkee]

Just curious, does anyone know if any other provider has launched it yet?

Thanks

yep, a few cable companies including verizon fios.

[TheRatPatrol]

yep, a few cable companies including verizon fios.
D* better get on the ball then, if they want to remain the HD sports leader.

[VARTV]

yep, a few cable companies including verizon fios.Yep, it on FiOS... :(

[dcowboy7]

Just curious, does anyone know if any other provider has launched it yet?

Thanks

ESPN says it has secured carriage for the new network with Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe, and is working on further distribution with other multichannel operators.

[bases1616]

D* better get on the ball then, if they want to remain the HD sports leader.
Not adding ESPNU HD today does not hurt D* as being the HD sports leader. We still have NFL ticket and all the MLB games in HD. Also, no other provider comes close to what D* provides for sports in HD. They are just debating right now with ESPN and hopefully they will come to terms soon.

[jefbal99]

Yep, it on FiOS... :(

and Time Warner in select systems.

D* likes to boast of being the HD leader and they always do a great job with the HD channels for the Masters, US Open, etc. But when it comes to carrying the HD versions of channels like Travel HD and ESPNUHD they kind of suck. They already have the SD versions. Is it really that much of a leap to carryt the HD versions?

At times it is a huge leap to carry an HD channel. Just because there is a carriage agreement for an SD station doesn't mean that the provider is just going to give away the HD channel for free. They are going to do their best to recoup their infrastructure upgrade costs by adding an additional charge for the HD feed or by requesting a different tier of service. Anything for a business to see a return on their investment.

Speculation in this thread is that ESPN wants ESPNU out of the Sports Pack, DirecTV likes it there and they are just going to, hopefully, meet in the middle.

[hanover]

why?

[jefbal99]

Screen shots of ESPNU HD are available in the thread over at AVSForum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949209).

Sounds like they are having some Technical issues this morning with test patterns being displayed, along with the ESPN2 HD Pillars for SD content. However, the screen grabs are crisp and very nice looking.

Hope to see this on DirecTV sooner rather than later.

[tommy_mc]

Not adding ESPNU HD today does not hurt D* as being the HD sports leader. We still have NFL ticket and all the MLB games in HD. Also, no other provider comes close to what D* provides for sports in HD. They are just debating right now with ESPN and hopefully they will come to terms soon.

While I'm not canceling my subscription (no FiOS in my area yet) and I do like D*, this really irritates me. :mad:

Getting ESPNU-HD soon doesn't really help as the game I want to watch is tonight.

[jefbal99]

why?

It was never announced that it would be in HD at the start, only speculated on. Satelliteracer confirmed earlier this month that it wouldn't be available at launch.

[Paul A]

why?

still negotiating is what I gathered from some of the messages on the board

[hengnv]

HD Sports Guide is reporting both D* & E* are still in negotiations with ESPN.

As of now, only Time Warner Cable, Verizon’s FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe have been confirmed as carriers, which leaves Comcast, Dish and DirecTV subscribers in the dark.

[tkrandall]

In my thinking DirecTV and ESPN have a couple channels reversed relative to which package includes them: ESPNU and ESPN Classic. Classic should be moved to the sports package, since it's really only an archive-type channel, specific to sports. U should be moved to the core packages as it's providing news and coverage of current sporting events appealing to a wider audience.

I guess I could tolerate if ESPNU-HD was part of the HD-Extra tier in the core packages, although no extra charge would be preferable. But I can see the logic: HD access already gets you three ESPN channels in HD, HD extra would get you an extra one.


I guess they want you to want it bad enough to pay the $12 for the sports pack.

[Doug Brott]

HD Sports Guide is reporting both D* & E* are still in negotiations with ESPN.

sounds about right .. ESPN-U probably affects me the most during Basketball Season so hopefully it lights up before Thanksgiving .. I have no idea on the status, though.

[bwaldron]

I guess they want you to want it bad enough to pay the $12 for the sports pack.

Better than making all subscribers pay another Disney "toll" -- in my opinion, of course. And I am a major sports fan.

[heisman6183]

Semi-related question. If I cancelled my Sports Pack, would I still get the regional sports networks for my area (Comcast Chicago, FS Midwest and FS North)? Also, even though they don't show it as coverage on DirecTVs website, I get games on FS Milwaukee (Brewers) and FS Kansas City (Royals) (kind of shoot offs of FS MW and FS North I guess).

[bwaldron]

Semi-related question. If I cancelled my Sports Pack, would I still get the regional sports networks for my area (Comcast Chicago, FS Midwest and FS North)? Also, even though they don't show it as coverage on DirecTVs website, I get games on FS Milwaukee (Brewers) and FS Kansas City (Royals) (kind of shoot offs of FS MW and FS North I guess).

Check here (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=P3000004) to see what teams are local to your zip code without paying for Sports Pack. It can be a little tricky in some areas as to what teams are truly local and which are "local" by adding the sports pack.

[larry34]

I have a H20-600 and it says my native resolution on ESPNU is 720P. It used to be 480i. Why did it change? Does this mean we'll get ESPNU in HD now?

[commodore_dude]

:crying: I wish the guys on ESPNU would quit talking about how it's in HD now...

[mightythor88]

While I'm not canceling my subscription (no FiOS in my area yet) and I do like D*, this really irritates me. :mad:

Getting ESPNU-HD soon doesn't really help as the game I want to watch is tonight.

Im with you there. Pitt is on ESPNU one time this season (this coming saturday) and it will be SD. When I saw the HD channel rollouts were going to be on Thursdays in August I figured it was due to the "sports leader" firing up U on launch.

If DTV didnt have the NFL ST, I would be looking elsewhere for service.

[mhking]

It was never announced that it would be in HD at the start, only speculated on. Satelliteracer confirmed earlier this month that it wouldn't be available at launch.

No, but we did get the Discovery Tree-Huggers Channel in HD; we do get MTV in HD (who has to my knowledge not carried a single program in high definition), and at this rate, we'll get QVC HD ahead of channels like ESPNU or Travel Channel HD (i.e., channels with programming and that people actually want/will watch).

[jefbal99]

No, but we did get the Discovery Tree-Huggers Channel in HD; we do get MTV in HD (who has to my knowledge not carried a single program in high definition), and at this rate, we'll get QVC HD ahead of channels like ESPNU or Travel Channel HD (i.e., channels with programming and that people actually want/will watch).

and those channels prolly offered D* a sweetheart deal to get the HD feeds or even free. If ESPN is pushing for a better tier placement, plus money, there is a disagreement. Gotta have a carriage agreement to have the channel.

[mightythor88]

i guess we "give us ESPNUHD now" people are a small group. I thought this would get more pressure and more posts. I pay for the sportspack so I just want it turned on and I dont care if it is on the regular tier or sports pack tier. But if it isnt turned on by Saturday - which I know it wont be - then it really is another frustration with directv to add to my list.

[hdtvfan0001]

i guess we "give us ESPNUHD now" people are a small group. I thought this would get more pressure and more posts. I pay for the sportspack so I just want it turned on and I dont care if it is on the regular tier or sports pack tier. But if it isnt turned on by Saturday - which I know it wont be - then it really is another frustration with directv to add to my list.
I'm sure that since DirecTV last negotiated their carriage deal with ESPN less than a year ago....there are provisions in there as to when and how to launch it.

I'm still optimistic it will be with the base HD package, and available soon after it starts up, maybe some time later in September or early October.

[RAD]

i guess we "give us ESPNUHD now" people are a small group.

Maybe it's just because folks have written over the years for channel they want (like HBO Comedy) and D*'s still refused to carry it. D* appears to move at their own pace and add the channel that they want and maybe they're the same channels their customers want, maybe not.

[tvjay]

Come on ESPNU/DirecTV I want to watch Bowling Green play in HD!!!!!

[Kavh]

Last night I did a reset on one of my receivers and when I went to the guide ESPNU was not listed. I had my guide set up not to show duplicates SD channels. I switched it to display SD Duplicates and ESPNU suddenly showed on the guide. It made me think the HD switch must be close or ready to be turned since my receiver thought an HD version of the channel was available.

[Lee L]

Personally, I will be even more dissapointed if it launches in say the next week and they were not able to get the deal done for the debut. Not a leadership role at all.

[TheRatPatrol]

Personally, I will be even more dissapointed if it launches in say the next week and they were not able to get the deal done for the debut. Not a leadership role at all.
I remember when ESPN2HD launched at CES a few years ago and D* was going to turn it on when it debut but they didn't.

[DMRI2006]

I certainly want ESPNU in HD. The standard-def version is basically unwatchable at this point with pixilation.

[Jason Whiddon]

This thread has run its course.

*) Yes, we are all irritated that ESPNUHD is not turned on yet

*) Not the first time this has happened, wont be the last.

[Lee L]

Well, I am glad the thread master has come in and decided the thread has run its course! :rolleyes:

[Jason Whiddon]

Im glad that you are glad. Nice to know I can help.

[LarryFlowers]

Well, I am glad the thread master has come in and decided the thread has run its course! :rolleyes:

We get it.. many folks are unhappy that this channel has not made the scene yet... doubt it is a conspiracy, suspect it is a matter of time and contracts, it is sports related so there is not any real doubt that DirecTV will deal with it in a way that makes you happy... the point is to stop beating a dead horse....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[ccsoftball7]

We get it.. many folks are unhappy that this channel has not made the scene yet... doubt it is a conspiracy, suspect it is a matter of time and contracts, it is sports related so there is not any real doubt that DirecTV will deal with it in a way that makes you happy... the point is to stop beating a dead horse....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I think there is a ... :beatdeadhorse: oh, yeah, there it is. :)

[tommy_mc]

I've worked the anger out of my system, no more venting. :)

However, tomorrow's a week since ESPNU-HD came out. Is there any update or rumor (baseless or otherwise) on when DirecTV will be adding it?

Is this going to become a whole Big Ten Network vs the Cable Co's situation?

[jefbal99]

I've worked the anger out of my system, no more venting. :)

However, tomorrow's a week since ESPNU-HD came out. Is there any update or rumor (baseless or otherwise) on when DirecTV will be adding it?

Is this going to become a whole Big Ten Network vs the Cable Co's situation?

I haven't seen or heard anything. We'll have to wait for satelliteracer to pop his head in and let us know if anything is expected tomorrow

[HDTVFreak07]

I don't think the hold-up is on DirecTV's end... wouldn't you think that DirecTV would WANT to provide more HD channels? I do. I'm sure they do not really want to hold anything back. It could be a contract issue between ESPNU and DirecTV or it is ESPNU isn't broadcasting in HD yet. There are many speculations involved but I seriously doubt DirecTV wants to hold anything back.

[Jason Whiddon]

I would have thought, with Thu being tomorrow, we would have heard by now. Im assuming nothing is coming. Here's to the 11th.

[dcowboy7]

Im assuming nothing is coming. Here's to the 11th.

imo sept 11 not a good day to add hd.

[Jason Whiddon]

imo sept 11 not a good day to add hd.


This is true. Heres to the 18th!

[tvjay]

Oh ESPNU is broadcasting in HD, but like other people I am starting to think that ESPN wants it moved out of the sports pack, which is probably the problem. I will have to admit that if they move it out of the sports pack, I am dropping the sports pack because I bought it for ESPNU. More specifically what I thought was going to be ESPNU-HD, but so far I am very dissappointed because BGSU seems to be playing on ESPNU a lot.

I can't imagine the 72.5 markets are stopping it. Mainly because my installer said they were going to 110/119 here soon or at least the HD's in the markets servered by 72.5 (ie. Toledo where I am from) are going to be on 110/119. He said that because they had/were going to have a training course on the new dish.

[Jason Whiddon]

IMHO, the sports pack should cover RSN's and the rest of the channels should be in normal packages.

[juventuz]

... or it is ESPNU isn't broadcasting in HD yet.....

ESPNU is definitely broadcasting in HD, my parents have Time Warner Cable here in Binghamton and it was added on their system last Thursday.

[juventuz]

imo sept 11 not a good day to add hd.

Why?

[NKy.Yall]

Why?

Your kidding right ?? If not remember 9-11-2001, and any 9/11 date is not a happy one to celebrate much of anything let alone a new sports hd-channel. So I agree the 18th sounds like a darn good day !!!!!!!!! :D

[jpl]

Your kidding right ?? If not remember 9-11-2001, and any 9/11 date is not a happy one to celebrate much of anything let alone a new sports hd-channel. So I agree the 18th sounds like a darn good day !!!!!!!!! :D

Funny thing is 9/11 is the date that Verizon is doing our channel realignment, and adding a bunch of new HD channels for the Philly area. I know this has nothing to do with DirecTV, but I figured I had to post about this. This realignment, apparently, takes most of the day (judging by previous markets), where channels come in and out all day. I have to wonder how many people will think we're under some new form of attack when that happens. Despite the fact that Verizon has notified us out the wazoo that it's coming there are still many that are caught by surprise when it happens...

[ajc68]

ESPNU is moving from channel 609 to 614 on 9/24 as part of the sports channel realignment. Maybe something will happen on that date.

[mightythor88]

Your kidding right ?? If not remember 9-11-2001, and any 9/11 date is not a happy one to celebrate much of anything let alone a new sports hd-channel. So I agree the 18th sounds like a darn good day !!!!!!!!! :D

I understand what you are saying, but it has been 7yrs. I think people live normally on December 7th now.

I agree with the other poster that most likely 9/24 will be the day that they have circled with the move - contracts hopefully all be dotted and crossed etc by then could be the plan.

[dgordo]

Your kidding right ?? If not remember 9-11-2001, and any 9/11 date is not a happy one to celebrate much of anything let alone a new sports hd-channel. So I agree the 18th sounds like a darn good day !!!!!!!!! :D


If you live like that, they win.

[QuickDrop]

If you live like that, they win.

I seriously doubt their winning or losing has anything to do with the date DirecTV launches new HD.

[juventuz]

I understand what you are saying, but it has been 7yrs. I think people live normally on December 7th now.

Thank you!

I don't see why launching new HD channels would somehow sully the memory of people that died that day.

[dgordo]

I seriously doubt their winning or losing has anything to do with the date DirecTV launches new HD.

Exactly

[n2deep2bn]

When is dtv going to add espnu?

[BudShark]

When is dtv going to add espnu?

March 4, 2005

If you are asking when ESPNU HD is going to be added, ummm, well, thats the point of this thread - nobody knows.

[n2deep2bn]

This is not good. I need espnu hd now.

[HDTVFreak07]

I see that Time Warner Cable now has ESPNU in HD. I can't believe TW beat DirecTV to it.

[merchione]

This Is Bravo Sierra Already!!!

[Steve Mehs]

I see that Time Warner Cable now has ESPNU in HD. I can't believe TW beat DirecTV to it.

Yep, got ESPN U HD yesterday added to my line up on TW Rochester. Not exactly the channel I was looking for, Fox News HD would have been better but I'll take it.

[capegator]

ESPN U HD will come right after FNC HD and AMC HD. These will all happen after East Podunk gets their locals.

[andy1824]

Now that football is on, we need this ASAP!

[thestaton]

ESPN U HD will come right after FNC HD and AMC HD. These will all happen after East Podunk gets their locals.

What's the time line for east podunk? :D

[Steve Mehs]

The Florida State game looks great on ESPN U this afternoon :D

[TheRatPatrol]

The Florida State game looks great on ESPN U this afternoon :D
:p

[Lee L]

DirecTV, please start leading! Don;t be lagging behind Cable on this. That is an embarrasment.

[man_rob]

DirecTV is holding up adding ESPNU HD because they want to place the channels in a pricier programming tier.

[Jason Whiddon]

yeah, their lack of announcement (on anything national other than PPV) has gotten slightly irritating.

[jefbal99]

DirecTV is holding up adding ESPNU HD because they want to place the channels in a pricier programming tier.

I believe DirecTV wants to keep it in the sports tier (where it belongs), ESPN wants it into a more widely distributed package.

[Billsfan69]

The Florida State game looks great on ESPN U this afternoon :D


How you enjoying the Big Ten network. Oh wait, you don't get it.

[Doug Brott]

DirecTV is holding up adding ESPNU HD because they want to place the channels in a pricier programming tier.

I believe DirecTV wants to keep it in the sports tier (where it belongs), ESPN wants it into a more widely distributed package.

Yeah, ESPNU has been part of the sports tier for a while now.

[jpl]

How you enjoying the Big Ten network. Oh wait, you don't get it.

I could say that both ESPNU HD, and BTN HD look great on my FiOS system... but I don't want to rub it in :)

[Steve Mehs]

How you enjoying the Big Ten network. Oh wait, you don't get it.


Nor do I really want it, but TW has come to an agreement with BTN. They offer it in a growing number of franchises around the country just not in Rochester at the moment, only a matter of time before it makes it here, just like Fox News HD.

[RAD]

Nor do I really want it, but TW has come to an agreement with BTN. They offer it in a growing number of franchises around the country just not in Rochester at the moment, only a matter of time before it makes it here, just like Fox News HD.

It appears though that they aren't carrying all the BTN alternate channels. Brother in law lives in Wisconsin but is Illini alum and couldn't see that game 1st week, his TWC system didn't carry it.

[ajc68]

Perhaps we won't see ESPNU HD until it shows up at 210. I believe that ESPN is fighting to get in with the base package, rather than remain in the sports pack.

[kryscio23]

Yep, got ESPN U HD yesterday added to my line up on TW Rochester. Not exactly the channel I was looking for, Fox News HD would have been better but I'll take it.

ESPNU-HD was added to Blue Ridge Cable here in Northeast PA just recently ... Surprisingly, Blue Ridge is now up to 45 HD channels along with 3 more movie (HBO, Starz, SHO) channels. Looked like they had 3 HD channels that DTV doesn't.

So when might we see ESPNU-HD on DTV? hmmm??

[gator5000e]

My parents just told me that Brighthouse in central Florida just added ESPNU HD.

[tonyd79]

It appears though that they aren't carrying all the BTN alternate channels. Brother in law lives in Wisconsin but is Illini alum and couldn't see that game 1st week, his TWC system didn't carry it.

Cable systems vary on what they carry of BTN. Comcast here had all the games (none in HD that I know of) but in suburban Philly, they only had one game. This for both weeks 1 and 2.

[Erocwolverine]

Well for being a "sports leader" as DirecTV likes to say sure doesn't really matter when you don't produce "on the field" ... ala ESPNU HD!

We can have tennis interactice, golf interactice, but not ESPNU HD ... lol.

For what most people pay a month for DirecTV especially the ones with HD should be able to get every channel that is actually producing HD content. Hell there are some channels that DirecTV has now that still aren't producing in HD, but they can say they have added a HD channel.

[Paul Secic]

Don't think it's confirmed, and according to what Sat Racer said in another thread on this subject we might not want to get our hopes up on this either.

The channel itself is going HD on that date. FYI It's isn't in HD yet on Dish.

[sundude90]

It sounds like the next big HD release is going to be in Mid to late October, so it will be probably be then! I hope so!

[juventuz]

The channel itself is going HD on that date. FYI It's isn't in HD yet on Dish.

Not sure what you're talking about, but ESPNUHD launched in late August, a number of cable companies are already carrying it.

[TheRatPatrol]

It sounds like the next big HD release is going to be in Mid to late October, so it will be probably be then! I hope so!
Where did you hear this at?

[iceturkee]

My parents just told me that Brighthouse in central Florida just added ESPNU HD.

must be true because its been added to their website. btw, just got btn network too, in SD!

[HDTVFreak07]

Where did you hear this at?

My parents got Time Warner Cable HD and ESPNUHD is on their line up. I have actually seen it for myself already.

[TheRatPatrol]

It sounds like the next big HD release is going to be in Mid to late October, so it will be probably be then! I hope so!

Where did you hear this at?

My parents got Time Warner Cable HD and ESPNUHD is on their line up. I have actually seen it for myself already.
What does that have to do with D* getting ESPUHD though? I was asking sundude where he heard that D* was getting more HD channels in October.

[sticketfan]

just wondering my guide for wed. for channel espnu says it is moving to 614,and it shows none of the programming. maybe hd at the same time......no prob. not

[DBSooner]

IDK but it would be nice if D* can get this channel in HD before the college football season is over.

[n2deep2bn]

This is not good. Directv should have espnuhd by now. This is not not good for the customer. Directv needs to add this channel today.

[JoeTheDragon]

This is not good. Directv should have espnuhd by now. This is not not good for the customer. Directv needs to add this channel today.

ESPN wants it in basic. Direct tv wants it in the sports pack that is likely holding it up.

[cdizzy]

ESPN wants it in basic. Direct tv wants it in the sports pack that is likely holding it up.


It should be in most basic packages. Not sure why directv would want it in the sports pack. I guess to make it more appealing.

[BlueGuy]

It should be in most basic packages. Not sure why directv would want it in the sports pack. I guess to make it more appealing.

I agree it is dumb that it is in the sportspak (from an ESPN and viewer standpoint). D* wants it in sportspak because it is one of the few channels in that pack that someone would actually want. Take it out and a lot of ppl may decide to keep their $12 bucks/mth or downgrade from Premier to Choice Plus. I've said it before and I'll say it again. D* is on thin ice if they are trying to argue that BTN belongs in a base package and ESPNU does not. It is ridiculous. I hope the true hold up is in what ESPNU wants to charge to be in the base package and not that D* doesn't want it in a base package at all.

As a consumer unwilling to pay for Sportspak, I hope ESPN wins this pissing contest and gets the U on to the basic tier.

[man_rob]

Since just about every other provider is putting it in their basic lineups, why is DirecTV trying to charge their customers more to get it.

[cdizzy]

Since just about every other provider is putting it in their basic lineups, why is DirecTV trying to charge their customers more to get it.

Exactly!

[mreposter]

Since just about every other provider is putting it in their basic lineups, why is DirecTV trying to charge their customers more to get it.

If ESPN (Disney) is charging Directv for this channel, why should everyone be forced to pay for it? The viewers that want the channel should cover the cost.

[RAD]

If ESPN (Disney) is charging Directv for this channel, why should everyone be forced to pay for it? The viewers that want the channel should cover the cost.
Ah, the age old question. We don't watch Lifetime channels so why should I pay for them.

[LarryFlowers]

I asked this question several days ago and have yet to see the answer... everyone keeps talking about DirecTV wanting to put this in the sportspak so they can charge for it... I read that first in this forum... cant find one single place that shows that came from any source that could be anything but uninformed speculation... Would someone please post an informed source that has ever said this was the case?

[kevinwmsn]

Doesn't the NFL Network have the same issue with Cable companies? A lot of cables companies did(not sure if they still do) have NFL Network in their sports package. NBA Network on D* is in the sports pack. I'm not sure where the line will be drawn.

[bwaldron]

Doesn't the NFL Network have the same issue with Cable companies?

Yes, indeed.

[man_rob]

If ESPN (Disney) is charging Directv for this channel, why should everyone be forced to pay for it? The viewers that want the channel should cover the cost.

Other providers are not charging their customers more for this channel.

[hdthebest]

I am surprised a company such as ESPN still advertise D* for their ESPN2 First Take show and still not come to some agreement to add ESPNUHD.

[tonyd79]

Other providers are not charging their customers more for this channel.

The largest cable supplier (Comcast) doesn't even have ESPNU. Basically the tier argument ESPN is apparently (though not confirmed) with DirecTV on the HD channel. The majority of ESPNU-HD access is on smaller cable systems that ESPN.

It is a bitch that this agreement isn't reached yet but it is next to impossible to know who is at fault without any information. Unlike the LIN situation or the various times cable companies and Dish have fought with individual channels (often locals), both sides are keeping quiet on this one.

[tonyd79]

I am surprised a company such as ESPN still advertise D* for their ESPN2 First Take show and still not come to some agreement to add ESPNUHD.

Eh. Dish has no agreement with MLB at all yet they advertise on MLB games locally and nation-wide. These odd things happen all the time.

[Baldmaga]

Eh. Dish has no agreement with MLB at all yet they advertise on MLB games locally and nation-wide. These odd things happen all the time.



Just like how Dish doesn't have the NFL ST, but promoted themselves one year as the football leader. (or something similar to that)

[mreposter]

Other providers are not charging their customers more for this channel.

Just wait until March and see what happens to your monthly rates. ESPN is demanding higher rates for this channel, and sooner or later that cost will be passed on. And just to be fair, Fox News also dramatically raised their per-subscriber rates in the last year when their multi-year deals expired.

[man_rob]

Just wait until March and see what happens to your monthly rates. ESPN is demanding higher rates for this channel, and sooner or later that cost will be passed on. And just to be fair, Fox News also dramatically raised their per-subscriber rates in the last year when their multi-year deals expired.
Source?

[Azdeadwood]

Just like how Dish doesn't have the NFL ST, but promoted themselves one year as the football leader. (or something similar to that)

Does this mean that Directv's habit of making promises that they don't keep is acceptable behavior because all satellite providers lie? (ie: December 2005 "Over 150 HD Channels coming soon", December 2007 "PBS HD coming soon", etc.)

[nitty316]

I can't believe we're a third the way through the season and we don't have this channel.

[mreposter]

Source?

Man, was this really two years ago? Anyway, here's an article about Fox News going from 25-cents a subscriber to demanding a dollar. I think they finally settled around 75-cents.

http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/09/28/fncs-rate-negotiations-2/
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6325187.html

[Paul Secic]

Does anyone know when Directv might carry ESPNU in HD? This would be so nice with the new Football season coming up?

Probably near Dec.

[BigWayne]

I asked this question several days ago and have yet to see the answer... everyone keeps talking about DirecTV wanting to put this in the sportspak so they can charge for it... I read that first in this forum... cant find one single place that shows that came from any source that could be anything but uninformed speculation... Would someone please post an informed source that has ever said this was the case?


ESPNU is already in the SportsPack. It's the main reason I signed up for the Sports Pack in the first place.

[iceturkee]

ESPNU is already in the SportsPack. It's the main reason I signed up for the Sports Pack in the first place.

the issue is that espn wants directv to move this out of the sports pak with the other espn networks so all subs can receive it!

[man_rob]

Man, was this really two years ago? Anyway, here's an article about Fox News going from 25-cents a subscriber to demanding a dollar. I think they finally settled around 75-cents.

http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/09/28/fncs-rate-negotiations-2/
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6325187.html

A two year old blog entry with a broken link isn't the most convincing source.

[mreposter]

A two year old blog entry with a broken link isn't the most convincing source.

Would you prefer a quote from the industry rag Variety?
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117953587.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&query=fox+news+rates

Chernin cited strong double-digit ratings growth and solid scatter prices. He said a key event for the business is Fox News' recent deal with Cablevision involving a major rate increase that will "dramatically enhance" the net's economics and added that he expects "to ramp up our fees with other partners in years to come."

and there's this from a Hollywood Reporter article from 9/26/2006:

Murdoch predicted a "very good year" for his company's film studio and signaled that the Fox News Channel is targeting carriage-fee hikes to about $1 per subscriber in what so far seem like slow-moving talks with cable operators.

[man_rob]

Would you prefer a quote from the industry rag Variety?
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117953587.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&query=fox+news+rates

Chernin cited strong double-digit ratings growth and solid scatter prices. He said a key event for the business is Fox News' recent deal with Cablevision involving a major rate increase that will "dramatically enhance" the net's economics and added that he expects "to ramp up our fees with other partners in years to come."

and there's this from a Hollywood Reporter article from 9/26/2006:

Murdoch predicted a "very good year" for his company's film studio and signaled that the Fox News Channel is targeting carriage-fee hikes to about $1 per subscriber in what so far seem like slow-moving talks with cable operators.

Still another article that is two years old, and not about the real topic at hand. Do you have anything about ESPN U HD? and the rates they are charging?

[Maverickster]

Source?

Economics 101.

--Mav

[man_rob]

Economics 101.

--Mav

A flip response, but it doesnt' really answer the question. We are basing these economics on facts from what source?

[Lee L]

The only fact I know is that I want ESPNU-HD. Some Cable systems have it. Since DirecTV is the "HD Leader" I don;t think it is too much of a stretch to assume they would have it too. Then again, maybe the fact that they have to keep reminding us that they are a leader is a sign that they should get the rest of the availalble HD up on their service so they don't have to remind us.

[Doug Brott]

So if ESPNUHD were added would they then be the HD Leader? I' like to see ESPNUHD as well, but seems one station by itself wouldn't make that much of a difference.

[iceturkee]

no but if they added wgn america, lifetime, more of the movie channels, etc.....they would be!

[LarryFlowers]

For whatever it is worth, ESPN apparently doesn't think ESPNU HD will be available on any of the Satellite services or Comcast soon...

Multichannel News reported on August 25, 2008 that the HD version of the network was only available on 5 carriers nationwide at the launch date , but it hopes to add reach deals with more distributors when the 2009-10 football season starts...

Time Warner Cable, Verizon’s FiOS TV, Blue Ridge, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe have the channel... note that DirecTV, Dish and Comcast are not currently carrying the channel, meaning that the majority of the nearly 96 million homes ESPN has access to are not receiving the channel.

[Lee L]

no but if they added wgn america, lifetime, more of the movie channels, etc.....they would be!

Exactly. There are channels out there that could be carried and are not. If DirecTV carried all of them, they would be the leader. As it is now, they are the clear follower in some areas as there are desireable HD channels they do not have.

[DBSooner]

Multichannel News reported on August 25, 2008 that the HD version of the network was only available on 5 carriers nationwide at the launch date , but it hopes to add reach deals with more distributors when the 2009-10 football season starts...


I really hope we don't have to wait that long.

[iceturkee]

shoot, i'm thinking about adding cable so i can get the ``u'' in hd.

[bwaldron]

as there are desireable HD channels they do not have.

I would imagine that will always be the case. Desirable is of course a personal judgment, but no provider carries (or likely will ever carry) every channel out there. They don't come free -- and either all subscribers pay for them, or they are put in added-cost tiers. Either way, some people are unhappy.

There are definitely some channels I wish DirecTV carried at this point, including the one that is the subject of this thread. I had (and have) concerns about Malone taking over.

However, for my needs, DirecTV is still the best choice. I think their claim to be the HD leader (including sports) is still valid -- although the race is much closer than it was a year ago.

We shall see what the future brings. Competition is good.

[Lee L]

I am not asking DirecTV to carry prgramming that they do not. I am only asking them to turn on the HD versions of channels they already have. And they may still be the leader, but they sure spend lots of time talking about how they are the "clear HD Leader". What I am saying is that if it was so clear, they would not need to constantly remind us. ;)

[bwaldron]

I am not asking DirecTV to carry prgramming that they do not. I am only asking them to turn on the HD versions of channels they already have.

That is the same request, in many respects. "Turning on" the HD channel means negotiating a separate carriage agreement, with different cost structures, etc.

[DBSooner]

How much ESPNU programming is in HD? Just sports or everything?

[Maverickster]

A flip response, but it doesnt' really answer the question. We are basing these economics on facts from what source?

No more "flip" than your continued and unnecessary badgering of that poor guy. You asked him for a "source" in a manner which rudely doubted his statement and then when he provided what he had and that wasn't good enough for you, you continued your rant. So, before you go calling other people out on being "flip", how about giving a little consideration for your own behavior.

--Mav

[man_rob]

No more "flip" than your continued and unnecessary badgering of that poor guy. You asked him for a "source" in a manner which rudely doubted his statement and then when he provided what he had and that wasn't good enough for you, you continued your rant. So, before you go calling other people out on being "flip", how about giving a little consideration for your own behavior.

--Mav
Um take another look at the title on this thread. He made an assertion about ESPNU HD, and then when asked to provide a source for his statements about ESPNU HD, he provided links to and old blog entry with a broken link, and and old story in an entertainment website about Fox News. Sorry if my asking for credible, relevant sources upset you.

[Maverickster]

Um take another look at the title on this thread. He made an assertion about ESPNU HD, and then when asked to provide a source for his statements about ESPNU HD, he provided links to and old blog entry with a broken link, and and old story in an entertainment website about Fox News. Sorry if my asking for credible, relevant sources upset you.

He supported (albeit, admittedly, not well) the half of his statement which related to FoxNews. The fact that it was not the "source" you were looking for is your own fault for being "flip" in your remark, instead of politely explaining the element of the statement you were looking to be supported. Your "flip" remark got you what you asked for and then you berate the guy for giving it to you. Well done.

--Mav

[man_rob]

He supported (albeit, admittedly, not well) the half of his statement which related to FoxNews. The fact that it was not the "source" you were looking for is your own fault for being "flip" in your remark, instead of politely explaining the element of the statement you were looking to be supported. Your "flip" remark got you what you asked for and then you berate the guy for giving it to you. Well done.

--Mav

I never asked about Fox News, and the thread is about ESPNU HD. Oddly enough, in a thread about ESPNU HD, when I was speaking of ESPNU HD, I expected replies to be about ESPNU HD, and not some vague, non sequitur to Fox News. How unreasonable of me. :rolleyes:

Can anyone explain why it is Fox News' fault that we don't have ESPNU HD?

[bwaldron]

How unreasonable of me. :rolleyes:

You've made your points. We get them.

The data available out there on programming costs to providers (and no, I'm not going to do the searches for you) have always shown the ESPN family of networks to be among the most expensive. And Disney negotiates very hard to keep it that way. Obviously nobody who is privy to the current negotiations between them and DirecTV will be willing to share specifics while such negotiations are ongoing.

Besides available data, there is also common sense. DirecTV markets itself as the HD sports leader. It knows that many of us very much want to see this channel. But Disney/ESPN knows these things as well, and can use them to push for more $$.

DirecTV isn't denying us sports fans the channel just for spite. I'd like to see it lit up ASAP (though I believe it should stay in the sports pack, so that all subscribers don't have to subsidize it). But I'm willing to be more patient than some people, I guess. I've got the baseball playoffs to watch, and a lot of HD hockey coming up.

If ESPNU-HD is a deal-breaker for someone, they do have other provider alternatives. Competition and choice are good things. Whining, not so much. And that's what a lot of people are doing, frankly.

[man_rob]

You've made your points. We get them.

The data available out there on programming costs to providers (and no, I'm not going to do the searches for you) Typical, you make claims, then refuse to back them up with any evidence. have always shown the ESPN family of networks to be among the most expensive. And Disney negotiates very hard to keep it that way. Obviously nobody who is privy to the current negotiations between them and DirecTV will be willing to share specifics while such negotiations are ongoing.

Besides available data, there is also common sense. DirecTV markets itself as the HD sports leader. It knows that many of us very much want to see this channel. But Disney/ESPN knows these things as well, and can use them to push for more $$. but of course you won't back these statements up either, right?

DirecTV isn't denying us sports fans the channel just for spite. Nobody said they were. It seems to be lack of foresight, (I'm sure there were many at DirecTV who were taken by surprise by D11 that just suddenly appeared in the sky one day.) I'd like to see it lit up ASAP (though I believe it should stay in the sports pack, so that all subscribers don't have to subsidize it). But I'm willing to be more patient than some people, I guess. I've got the baseball playoffs to watch, and a lot of HD hockey coming up.

If ESPNU-HD is a deal-breaker for someone, they do have other provider alternatives. Competition and choice are good things. Whining, not so much. And that's what a lot of people are doing, frankly.Just as you are whining about the people you perceive as whiners because they express a desire for more HD.

[upnorth]

Typical, you make claims, then refuse to back them up with any evidence. but of course you won't back these statements up either, right?

Nobody said they were. It seems to be lack of foresight, (I'm sure there were many at DirecTV who were taken by surprise by D11 that just suddenly appeared in the sky one day.) Just as you are whining about the people you perceive as whiners because they express a desire for more HD.

You yourself said this is a open forum to express your opinion so now no one can post an opinion with out some link to backup there opinion.
I think it is pretty common knowledge that the ESPN's are among the highest priced programming out there.
So in your opinion why is it DirecTV has not added ESPNU HD/;)

[man_rob]

You yourself said this is a open forum to express your opinion so now no one can post an opinion with out some link to backup there opinion.
I think it is pretty common knowledge that the ESPN's are among the highest priced programming out there.
So in your opinion why is it DirecTV has not added ESPNU HD/;)

Are you saying it's only your opinion that ESPN among is the highest priced programming, or are you stating that as a fact? Do you really not see the difference? Do you also not see the difference in someone trying to dissuade others from expressing opinions, and simply asking folks to back up their claims with evidence?

[bwaldron]

Are you saying it's only your opinion that ESPN among is the highest priced programming, or are you stating that as a fact? Do you really not see the difference? Do you also not see the difference in someone trying to dissuade others from expressing opinions, and simply asking folks to back up their claims with evidence?

Here's one incomplete list (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14693460#post14693460) for you.

[man_rob]

Here's one incomplete list (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14693460#post14693460) for you.


Well and post from some guy another forum is something, I guess, but it would be more convincing if the post on that other forum actually had a link to their source of their information. Yes they attribute it, but give no link to the info. The poster could make up anything, and attribute it.

[upnorth]

Are you saying it's only your opinion that ESPN among is the highest priced programming, or are you stating that as a fact? Do you really not see the difference? Do you also not see the difference in someone trying to dissuade others from expressing opinions, and simply asking folks to back up their claims with evidence?

Of course I see the difference Ok take the opinion part out if some one posts a point they know is correct because it has been brought up many times in this forum over the years he is not obligated to post a source.
Maybe you should try some reasearch to prove otherwise if you think he is wrong.
So I ask again So in your opinion why is it DirecTV has not added ESPNU HD/;)

[bwaldron]

Well and post from some guy another forum is something, I guess, but it would be more convincing if the post on that other forum actually had a link to their source of their information. Yes they attribute it, but give no link to the info. The poster could make up anything, and attribute it.

I agree, but that person is an extremely well-respected source on that forum, which is in itself one of the most respected in the A/V arena. And the source was cited, if not linked.

The programming costs are fairly closely held information, for rather obvious reasons. But what we do have points to ESPN being one of (if not the) most expensive providers out there. Those of us who used to buy our C-band dish programming a-la-carte are well aware that this has been true for many years.

[bwaldron]

So I ask again So in your opinion why is it DirecTV has not added ESPNU HD/;)

Yeah, I'd like to know as well. Because they're incompetent? Lazy? Mean? Want to lose customers?

The pricing/tiering argument makes the most sense to me...but if there is something else going on, I'm all ears.

[upnorth]

Well and post from some guy another forum is something, I guess, but it would be more convincing if the post on that other forum actually had a link to their source of their information. Yes they attribute it, but give no link to the info. The poster could make up anything, and attribute it.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2004-02-20-cox-espn-agree_x.htm

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/oct/1198708.htm

[mreposter]

Thanks bwaldron and upnorth for posting links to additional information on carriage rates. As bwaldron stated, this information in closely guarded, so it's difficult to find official sources.

In my earlier post I made a general statement about ESPN carriage rates and then gave a specific example about Fox News. When requested to "prove it" I did just that - proving the specific example of Fox News demanding an increase to $1 per subscriber (and settling for 75 cents.)

[jsh5771]

Yeah, I'd like to know as well. Because they're incompetent? Lazy? Mean? Want to lose customers?

The pricing/tiering argument makes the most sense to me...but if there is something else going on, I'm all ears.

I am curretnly in negotiations with a MDU provider. The ESPN family of networks are incredibly expensive. For example, the NFL network is in the range of $.15 to $.40 per subscriber, while the ESPN family is around $3 - $4 per subscriber. These figures are not 100% accurate, but will give you an idea of the ballpark cost.

[Albie]

I am curretnly in negotiations with a MDU provider. The ESPN family of networks are incredibly expensive. For example, the NFL network is in the range of $.15 to $.40 per subscriber, while the ESPN family is around $3 - $4 per subscriber. These figures are not 100% accurate, but will give you an idea of the ballpark cost.

And isn't it also true that the ESPN family as negotiated at that price is usually only ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPN News?

It is my understanding that Classic and ESPNU are usually negotiated separately or as an add on to the bundle.

[reweiss]

ESPNU looks like it has been added on channel 614