news 12

[juan ellitinez]

Any chance D or E will pick up news 12 in the New York metro area?

[AJ2086]

Nope, its owned by Cablevision and is exclusive to Cablevision and DBS Providers have no interest in regional news networks.

[juan ellitinez]

Why not put them on a spot beam next to those useless must carry stations nobody wants. Then sell them as part of locals package

[AJ2086]

The keyword here is Cablevision. Its Cablevision News 12. And if E* or D* did this for the NYC/NJ/CT area they would have to do it for all the other areas, thats alot of bandwidth.

[Brett]

Cablevision wants to keep News12 cable-only. Unless D* and E* paid a large amount for the rights for those stations (News 12 NJ, News 12 Connecticut, etc.) , and neither would. Now if Cablevision launches its satellite service, this may change.

BTW, Comcast DOES carry News12 NJ on its cable systems in Northern and Central NJ. It must be an agreement Comcast and Cablevision have. Cablevision carries CN8 on its NJ systems in return. But Comcast doesnt carry News12 on Ch.12 anymore and has no intention of adding News12 NJ in Southern NJ market. In Toms River, Comcast moved News12 from CH.12 to Ch.28, and moved QVC(owned by Comcast) to Ch.12. That indicates Comcast has a weak deal with News12 if the channel position isnt in stone. Comcast would rather CN8 expand and be the cable channel for NJ.

[Geronimo]

If they carried this they would get requests for dozens of these channels. Both providers have resisted it and when such stations are owned by local station groups it has delayed retrans negotiations

[BobMurdoch]

It's the Comcast Sports Net loophole. It is transmitted by terrestrial means only, so it does not have top be made available to subscribers. Comcast cut a deal with Cablevision, allowing News 12 on Comcast systems and CN8 on Cablevision's systems.

[BearsFan]

Same deal in Chicago / Chicagoland (the 'burbs) with "CLTV." A great local cable news channel (forget who it's owned by), and it'll never be on DBS...which is a shame.

It'd be a great addition to a locals package.

--BearsFan

[Brett]

Are you sure CLTV will never be on satellite? Its not owned by the cable systems. Its owned by Tribune Broadcasting, owners of WPIX KTLA WGN KWGN WPHL WBDC and almost every WB station in the top 10 markets (except in San Francisco and Detroit) that want more viewers to its programming. They also own newspapers (Baltimore Sun, Allentown's Morning Call), etc.

Unless it has an exclusive deal to be cable only, it doesnt rule them out. Unfortunately the cable companies could say to Tribune, "if you offer the channel to satellite, we wont renew our deal". With no cable homes, the channel folds.

It seems in the D.C. region, RCN/Starpower cannot get rights for NewsChannel 8 (owned by Mr. Albritton that owns WJLA 7 also) because of some exclusivity deal the bigger cable companies made with Albritton.

[cnsf]

Also, News 12 is different for each area, i.e. there is one for Westchester, one for CT, etc. You'd have to carry each of them and Cablevision uses them as an "exclusive" selling point.

Ain't gonna hapen.

[Geronimo]

We have been here before. Dish And DirecTV have resisted all efforts to get these channels on

[DVDDAD]

Originally posted by Geronimo
We have been here before. Dish And DirecTV have resisted all efforts to get these channels on

Let's not forget that CV wouldn't likely ever allow any retransmission rights as they advertise, "Only on Cablevision, Never on Satellite". They hope that if you really wanted News 12 that you will subscribe to cable.

[BobMurdoch]

Except that News12 is really just a poor man's CNN. If you want New Jersey centric news, tune to WNJB one of the free locals covered on the 61.5 satellite. Get Charlie to install one for you for free if you don't have one yet and you get the same content. The only time they are really useful is during elections when they focus on NJ elections. NJN (WNJB) does the same.

[guest]

The pq on wnjb is really really bad. Almost unwatchable