View Full Version : I'm getting mid 30s for 99(c), will I need to realign?
CompiledMonkey
07-25-08, 07:30 AM
With all of the D11 talk going on I decided to check the signal I'm getting from 99(c). I was getting mid 30s on the even transponders last night. Does this mean I'll need to realign my dish in order to get a good signal from the new satellite? Would doing that effect the signal I get from the other satellites?
texasbrit
07-25-08, 07:32 AM
With all of the D11 talk going on I decided to check the signal I'm getting from 99(c). I was getting mid 30s on the even transponders last night. Does this mean I'll need to realign my dish in order to get a good signal from the new satellite? Would doing that effect the signal I get from the other satellites?
With the 99(c) transponders sometimes apparently reducing in power or switching off, it's a bit dangerous to use 99(c) as a yardstick right now. What are your signals like on 101 and on 103(c)??
CompiledMonkey
07-25-08, 07:34 AM
101, if I remember correctly, looks great. In the mid 90s or high 80s. I think that's the location it defaults to in the menu. I'm not sure about 103(c).
Check 103c first, if its not in the upper 80s and 90s then a tweak is in order.
scuba_tim
07-25-08, 07:40 AM
Hi, I've been looking to do the same post. Since the signals have been going on, I've been getting 30-40s on odd transponders and 50-60s on even. Occassionally things drop to 0s.
101 is solid 90s+, though I seem to have lost 110 (this I think may be an alignment issue, but I get signals on my R15 for 110).
I know they are testing D11, maybe it's an area thing as I'm southeastern NC. Any thoughts folks? I can always post more info.
litzdog911
07-25-08, 10:14 AM
Best to focus on 103º(c) readings until the new D11 satellite finishes testing.
scuba_tim
07-25-08, 12:19 PM
So I did have an alignment issue. Based on folks here and texasbrit's suggestion in the D11 thread, I tweaked my 5LNB dish on 103c. Brought my numbers from mid 70s to low 90s, and suddenlty 99c is in the mid80s (prev 30-60). Thanks all for the help.
I still don't get anything on 110 on my HR20. I get readings on my R15 and D11, but not sure those count. I'm thinking a bad LNB, just not sure it's worth a service call to fix it.
bruinfever
07-25-08, 12:34 PM
You'll definitely have to realign your dish. If your signals were in the low 60's to 70's then there would be a chance that when the transpoders are set to full power your signals would improve, but I doubt it will raise your signal up 40-50 points.........
litzdog911
07-25-08, 12:36 PM
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I still don't get anything on 110 on my HR20. I get readings on my R15 and D11, but not sure those count. I'm thinking a bad LNB, just not sure it's worth a service call to fix it.
If your R15 and D11 receive 110º, then your HR20 should, too. A bad LNB would affect all Receivers connected to that dish. More likely it's a multiswitch or DVR problem. Have you tried resetting your HR20?
Matt9876
07-25-08, 12:47 PM
Added a H21 unit to a side car dish this morning 99(a/c) 1-14 was at 77-83 level.
My H20 with slimline is getting mostly low 90s for 99(a/c).
If you are getting readings below 70 for 99(c/a) you may have alignment,equipment or line of sight issues to be worked out.
Please note that testing is still in progress and some of the 14 transponders are being switched off/on at times.
Some reports of high 103 signals and low 99(a/c) signals is still a mystery, I suspect line of sight or equipment issues. Good Luck !!:)
I'd say wait until D11 is actually in service.
tonyd79
07-25-08, 03:51 PM
Can we extract alignment instructions and put them in a sticky? I don't want to wade through the D11 thread to find them. I do need a tweak or two.
scuba_tim
07-25-08, 05:49 PM
Can we extract alignment instructions and put them in a sticky? I don't want to wade through the D11 thread to find them. I do need a tweak or two.
You may find this useful for now.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1696370&postcount=5977
I agree though, some simple straight forward tips would be great. Though the video is helpful too.
RD in Fla
07-25-08, 06:23 PM
Added a H21 unit to a side car dish this morning 99(a/c) 1-14 was at 77-83 level.
My H20 with slimline is getting mostly low 90s for 99(a/c).
If you are getting readings below 70 for 99(c/a) you may have alignment,equipment or line of sight issues to be worked out.
Please note that testing is still in progress and some of the 14 transponders are being switched off/on at times.
Some reports of high 103 signals and low 99(a/c) signals is still a mystery, I suspect line of sight or equipment issues. Good Luck !!:)
Exactly my issue - mid 90s on 101 and 103(c), but 30s and 40s on 99(c). I haven't seen it above 50 since the 99 transponders were switched on. Not a tree in sight.
I was getting mid 20s on 99c on some transponders and zeros on others, so I checked 99s. The Sacramento locals are on that satellite. I was getting the same readings there, so checked a local HD channel. I got a 771 searching message, so called Directv. They sent someone out this morning and the guy said my dish was waaaaaaaaay out of alignment. I'm now getting high 90s where I've never got them before. I'm a happy camper... I wasn't worried about the local channels since I use an antenna for those, but I sure wouldn't be happy if I couldn't get the new HD channels. <g>
CompiledMonkey
07-25-08, 09:03 PM
With the 99(c) transponders sometimes apparently reducing in power or switching off, it's a bit dangerous to use 99(c) as a yardstick right now. What are your signals like on 101 and on 103(c)??
103(c) is not very good. It's between 50 and 70 on the transponders available.
texasbrit
07-25-08, 09:15 PM
103(c) is not very good. It's between 50 and 70 on the transponders available.
You need to realign your dish to get better signals on 103c. Should have at least high 80s, preferably 90s. That will also improve your 101 signals, and then the 99c signals should be good to go also, just because of the geometry of the dish.
CompiledMonkey
07-26-08, 07:26 AM
You need to realign your dish to get better signals on 103c. Should have at least high 80s, preferably 90s. That will also improve your 101 signals, and then the 99c signals should be good to go also, just because of the geometry of the dish.
How do I realign the dish so it picks up 101 and 103?
litzdog911
07-26-08, 10:51 AM
How do I realign the dish so it picks up 101 and 103?
Check out the dish alignment videos here ...
http://www.solidsignal.com/dtvkuka
RD in Fla
07-26-08, 02:34 PM
My issue was elevation. 99(c) was in the 30s and 40s this morning. I tweaked the elevation on my Slimline and everything is now in the 90s.
FarNorth
07-26-08, 02:53 PM
I am in Alaska and the first 14 xsponders on 99c are coming in:
71 81 66 77 73 80 70 78
77 83 69 77 79 88
Not wonderful numbers but there is some rain in the area.
I've been losing 110 a bit the last few days and was actually thinking about swapping out the 4-footer I have on 110 to a 6-footer that became surplus when I switched over to the 1-meter for 99/101/103.
If things come together as rumored I will be a very happy individual.
For comparison, I have 16 xsponders on 103c ranging from 90 to 97, all but 11 above 93.
FarNorth
07-26-08, 02:57 PM
My issue was elevation.
In my very limited experience, elevation is almost always the issue, especially with the bigger dishes. The weight always pulls them forward and down.
Matt9876
07-26-08, 04:03 PM
My issue was elevation. 99(c) was in the 30s and 40s this morning. I tweaked the elevation on my Slimline and everything is now in the 90s.
Mystery solved!! +1:)
You may find this useful for now.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1696370&postcount=5977
I agree though, some simple straight forward tips would be great. Though the video is helpful too.
Back when D10 first went "live," I put together a few re-alignment tips here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1194131&postcount=44), which are equally applicable to D11.
scuba_tim
07-26-08, 05:10 PM
Back when D10 first went "live," I put together a few re-alignment tips here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1194131&postcount=44), which are equally applicable to D11.
Great resource! What's a person got to do to get a sticky round here. Put that at the top of Installation Discussion and many people will be helped (myself included!)
trekologer
07-27-08, 07:21 PM
Back when D10 first went "live," I put together a few re-alignment tips here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1194131&postcount=44), which are equally applicable to D11.
I too will throw in my thanks for posting this. I'm getting high 70s to mid 80s on 103(c). I will need to re-adjust at some point. My dish is on top of the roof of my shed but when I installed it, I stupidly screwed it into the plywood and not the beam. I'm sure that the plywood is probablly flexing a little as well. It only need to be moved about an inch so it shouldn't be too bad.
Since my earlier post in this thread, I went through that Oct '07 post and brought it up to date, so I hope you'll find it helpful when you get started on your project. You might be able to get away with simply reinforcing the underside of the plywood with additional wood up to the rafters and using bolts and washers instead of lags. Then you wouldn't have to drill more holes in your roof, and you'd have a strong mounting surface.
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