View Full Version : Dish Nets Regional Dallas Now listed
If you go to the qualifier for distant networks, and you put in an address that qualifies for everything, Dallas has been added back to the first list, DISH NETS DISTANT BROADCAST NETWORKS REGIONAL A LA CARTE.
It has not been added back to the second list, REGIONAL PACKAGES.
Scott, any way to get something more on this?
The section starts out as this address may qualify...........
Perhaps leaving an option for those in Tyler to qualify for KTVT.
Good thought. Would Tyler fall under the Dallas spot beam? I live about 100 miles or so from Framingham, Mass where our friends live. They bought a Dish box from me that I deactivated and while at my home had it added to their account. Their package and the Boston stations showed up on the guide, but no picture for the locals. I am just assuming we were not in the spot. They let me know it worked fine at their house.
Originally posted by tampa8
Good thought. Would Tyler fall under the Dallas spot beam?
It sure does! :D lots of people that live in Longview/Tyler get the Dallas locals from either provider. ;)
The real question is:
Does the person that has just one provider give up the dozzen Dallas channels for 4 Tyler ones at the same price? :shrug: :D
Marcus S
03-19-03, 03:02 PM
I just checked my address, interestingly, I again qualify for Dallas but only Dallas Distant Regional Nets Alacarte, but not the package. I hear E* had numerous calls during the last Charlie chat. I sincerely hope that E* understands they will loose more than few existing Dallas distant net subs defect if they do not recend the move to spot.
Marcus S,
That is the basis that I even bring this thread up. I would be very interested to find out if Dish heard from enough people to change their minds about "spotting" Dallas.
JWT
Could you explain a little more. If Tyler has locals how do you have a choice on DISH. It appears from the map Tyler is about 90 miles from Dallas. How do you qualify for Dallas if your in the Tyler DMA?
Second, even if you do get Dallas now, they are not on spotbeam yet. So getting them now does not tell me that you will if they go to spotbeam.
Originally posted by tampa8
Marcus S,
That is the basis that I even bring this thread up. I would be very interested to find out if Dish heard from enough people to change their minds about "spotting" Dallas.
JWT
Could you explain a little more. If Tyler has locals how do you have a choice on DISH. It appears from the map Tyler is about 90 miles from Dallas. How do you qualify for Dallas if your in the Tyler DMA?
Second, even if you do get Dallas now, they are not on spotbeam yet. So getting them now does not tell me that you will if they go to spotbeam.
The house in town gets Tyler locals on Dish, but the other house on the other side of the county line gets Dallas from DTV. Tyler is 90 miles from Dallas. But look at the map a little more closely the city of Tyler is roughly 15 miles from both Van Zandt and Henderson Counties-both of which are in the Dallas DMA. Even when/if Dallas goes to spot beams on Dish, Tyler would still be within the spot as the Dallas DMA practically comes within a few miles of the Tyler city limits signs, and either provider to spot the DMA must sufficiently blanket it to ensure reception is available to all areas of the DMA. There sure are alot of "second homes" just west of town for some reason :D But my comment earlier was if you only had one satellite system and you had to chose on which DMA you wanted to claim, would you pay the same amount for 4 channels or 13 and use the rabit ears for the other 4 ( 3 until the CBS affilate goes online) ?
I was playing around with the DTV locals qualification page again today. In Longivew one could do the same with the Shreveport locals if they so desired as the eastern part of the city and outlying areas are in Harrison Co. which was qualifying for the upcoming Shreveport locals, but addresses in Gregg Co. only qualify for Longview/Tyler locals.
Thanks for the explanation. You have to "live" in the correct area of Tyler to get Dallas. I didn't realize the Dallas DMA would reach that far. Can you get Dallas stations OTA? Of course terrain is much different in the Northeast than Texas, but only with a good antenna, rotor and booster could I get only some of the Boston stations clear enough to watch, 90 miles away!
Originally posted by tampa8
Thanks for the explanation. You have to "live" in the correct area of Tyler to get Dallas. I didn't realize the Dallas DMA would reach that far. Can you get Dallas stations OTA? Of course terrain is much different in the Northeast than Texas, but only with a good antenna, rotor and booster could I get only some of the Boston stations clear enough to watch, 90 miles away!
That`s pretty much the way it goes here as well. When I had an outdoor rig some nights the antenna would get Dallas, and other nights it would get places like Houston or Little Rock. I have seen people living 10-15 miles to the west of town getting Dallas stations with the right antenna rig get a city grade picture, while others 30 miles out with the latest and greatest antenna eqipment have problems getting them at all. It all really depends on the location and terrain. The reason it works so well here is that DMA`s are determined by county lines not actual signal coverage and since the Dallas DMA literally goes into Tyler`s back yard and the Shreveport DMA includes the eastern 1/5 of Longview that is just the way it is.
Marcus S
03-21-03, 08:51 PM
I just got an email from E* ATS stating that it is a typo on E*'s qual web site and they will be removing it shortly. To bad, so many subs to loose.
Cheyenne
03-21-03, 09:54 PM
Congrats to new Dallas local viewers!
Others that are not happy with this result need be aware that the FCC defines DMA regions. This should have minimal impact to existing customers.
Originally posted by Cheyenne
Congrats to new Dallas local viewers!
Others that are not happy with this result need be aware that the FCC defines DMA regions. This should have minimal impact to existing customers.
Huh? This has impact on everyone who are not in the spotbeam and currently get the Dallas locals. The "DMA region" has little to do with it. I am talking about those who are in a white area legally getting Dallas locals by choice now becasue they are available nationwide. Perhaps I do not understand your post.
Cheyenne
03-21-03, 11:23 PM
tampa8, The DMA region has everything to do with it.
The 'white area' is defined per FCC regulation, not Echostar.
This regulation is required.
Originally posted by Cheyenne
tampa8, The DMA region has everything to do with it.
The 'white area' is defined per FCC regulation, not Echostar.
This regulation is required.
But what does that have anything to do with DISH making a decision not to carry Dallas locals nationwide? That has nothing to do with any regulations. I am well aware of the regulations, they have nothing at all to do with my thread. Just wishing DISH would contuinue to offer them nationwide as they do now. John H and JWT did a good job of answering why it might now be showing again as a choice.
Marcus S
03-22-03, 11:30 AM
FCC Regulations / Regional DMA has absolutly nothing to do with E*'s poor business decision to move Dallas nets to spot beam. Rural Texas subs that live anywhere other than SE or the Central / Southern I-35 corridor (not within the spot foot print) will be effected. The other way to look at it is, if you already have Dallas Distant Nets you went through qual to get them.
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