View Full Version : Thank you DirecTV(?) (Rant)...
kwelling12
08-02-08, 12:21 AM
...for cutting away to your own commercials and 30 seconds of black screen during the last lap of the Grand-Am race on SPEED HD. I didn't really want to watch it anyway. It was only the closest finish in series history.
Apparently there were no problems on the SD feed or on any other provider, so again, thank you.
purtman
08-02-08, 12:25 AM
...for cutting away to your own commercials and 30 seconds of black screen during the last lap of the Grand-Am race on SPEED HD. I didn't really want to watch it anyway. It was only the closest finish in series history.
Apparently there were no problems on the SD feed or on any other provider, so again, thank you.
Good thing it was only auto racing! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Radio Enginerd
08-02-08, 12:52 AM
...for cutting away to your own commercials and 30 seconds of black screen during the last lap of the Grand-Am race on SPEED HD. I didn't really want to watch it anyway. It was only the closest finish in series history.
Apparently there were no problems on the SD feed or on any other provider, so again, thank you.That sucks. No excuse for that, probably some technical snafu.
LOCODUDE
08-02-08, 06:35 AM
That sucks. No excuse for that, probably some technical snafu.
Indeed.......:)
CrazyforYeshua
08-02-08, 07:04 AM
Brings back Heidi/Superbowl memories....for the oldies in the crowd...
The Heidi game was not a superbowl
Tiger62
08-02-08, 07:16 AM
The Heidi game was not a superbowl
The oldies in the crowd won't remember that. :)
donkeylips
08-02-08, 07:26 AM
Good thing it was only auto racing! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah that would suck if it happened during a sporting event.
SPACEMAKER
08-02-08, 07:52 AM
Good thing it was only auto racing! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah that would suck if it happened during a sporting event.
Is that really called for? Not everyone has the same interests. The great thing about this board is that people are free to express opinions and report issues without fear of being ridiculed for their programming tastes. Grow up.
I would doubt very much that it was the providers fault and not the broadcaster.
hdtvfan0001
08-02-08, 09:43 AM
Yeah that would suck if it happened during a sporting event.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
LarryFlowers
08-02-08, 10:05 AM
Is that really called for? Not everyone has the same interests. The great thing about this board is that people are free to express opinions and report issues without fear of being ridiculed for their programming tastes. Grow up.
Very valid point, anytime this type of thing happens it is a "no excuse" event for the fans.
The Heidi Incident in Nov, 1968 was a classic event in that it was a true SNAFU. Not a Superbowl game but a regularly scheduled American Football League game, NBC had a contractual agreement with Timex to air "Heidi" in the 7-9PM time slot and the network had instructed the on site NBC supervisor to cut to Heidi whether the game was over or not. He followed his instructions which immedialtely triggered a flood of telephone calls which had the unfortunate side effect of blocking the telephone call from NBC New York exec's trying to call and tell them NOT to cut away.
The thing I have always wondered about is when these things happen, I am sure that the on site cameras didn't miss anything and they should have rectified it immediately. On-site supervisory personnel should have the authority to deal with it on the spot and let the New York studios sort the mess out later.
Tinymon
08-02-08, 10:16 AM
There are but three true sports--bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games.
Very valid point, anytime this type of thing happens it is a "no excuse" event for the fans.
The Heidi Incident in Nov, 1968 was a classic event in that it was a true SNAFU. Not a Superbowl game but a regularly scheduled American Football League game, NBC had a contractual agreement with Timex to air "Heidi" in the 7-9PM time slot and the network had instructed the on site NBC supervisor to cut to Heidi whether the game was over or not. He followed his instructions which immedialtely triggered a flood of telephone calls which had the unfortunate side effect of blocking the telephone call from NBC New York exec's trying to call and tell them NOT to cut away.
The thing I have always wondered about is when these things happen, I am sure that the on site cameras didn't miss anything and they should have rectified it immediately. On-site supervisory personnel should have the authority to deal with it on the spot and let the New York studios sort the mess out later.
Yes, but remember the NY based control center had to make the decision on what was going out over the air...so even if they kept the cameras going the decision to go back on the network had to be made by a higher-up.
Also remember back in 1968 the AFL was not that big a deal. The early Super Bowls weren't even sellouts. If it wasn't the Jets I'd bet that few would have ever heard of the incident.
My dad and I were watching that game and I can still feel that sickness of them coming back from commercial and Heidi (Could they have picked a worse movie to interrupt a football game with?) starting to roll.
I also remember to call we had to call information on our dial phone to get the number for NBC and then dial the whole number to get busy signal after busy signal (no phone menu systems).
I would doubt very much that it was the providers fault and not the broadcaster.Most likely. Just as with radio broadcasts of sporting events, when the provider wants the broadcaster to go to a local break, they "fire a trigger", which then tells the broadcaster's computer to play local commercials/promos. This was most likely a slip on SPEED HD's fault, not DirecTV's.
Redlinetire
08-02-08, 11:50 AM
Most likely. Just as with radio broadcasts of sporting events, when the provider wants the broadcaster to go to a local break, they "fire a trigger", which then tells the broadcaster's computer to play local commercials/promos. This was most likely a slip on SPEED HD's fault, not DirecTV's.
But why would the HD version have the issue and not the SD?
It would seem they'd both have the same break inserts.
scrybigtv
08-02-08, 11:55 AM
Also remember back in 1968 the AFL was not that big a deal. The early Super Bowls weren't even sellouts. If it wasn't the Jets I'd bet that few would have ever heard of the incident.
Not really true. The AFL started out as an inferior league, but by the late 1960s it was giving the NFL all the competition it could handle, and then some. Think the Super Bowl would have ever materialized if the AFL wasn't pushing the NFL in the ratings race? By 1967, there were millions of hardcore AFL fans out there. The NFL really had no choice but to merge with the fledgling league a few years later.
Steady Teddy
08-02-08, 12:45 PM
One of the most exciting race finishes ever, and D* screws it up. Way to go.
purtman
08-02-08, 01:04 PM
Not really true. The AFL started out as an inferior league, but by the late 1960s it was giving the NFL all the competition it could handle, and then some. Think the Super Bowl would have ever materialized if the AFL wasn't pushing the NFL in the ratings race? By 1967, there were millions of hardcore AFL fans out there. The NFL really had no choice but to merge with the fledgling league a few years later.
"Millions"? Neither league was all that big back then. The NFL was bigger than the AFL, but both took a backseat to MLB.
purtman
08-02-08, 01:05 PM
Is that really called for? Not everyone has the same interests. The great thing about this board is that people are free to express opinions and report issues without fear of being ridiculed for their programming tastes. Grow up.
It's more of a goof on those who automatically assume that it's D*'s fault. As Syphix said, the source sends a signal to let the distributor know when to air a commercial. It happens all of the time. There are many times you'll see the signal pop up when the local station is caught off guard. You'll just see the black screen with some numbers on it.
Tom Robertson
08-02-08, 01:48 PM
Since we can't presume it was DIRECTV's fault at this point, I've changed the title.
Cheers,
Tom
Not really true. The AFL started out as an inferior league, but by the late 1960s it was giving the NFL all the competition it could handle, and then some. Think the Super Bowl would have ever materialized if the AFL wasn't pushing the NFL in the ratings race? By 1967, there were millions of hardcore AFL fans out there. The NFL really had no choice but to merge with the fledgling league a few years later.
Let me rephrase....I wasn't talking about the quality of play...I was talking about public interest in the games. The NFL and AFL just weren't what they are today in terms of attracting tv ratings and fans. The AFL even less so than the NFL because it was newer and still at this time considered to be an inferior league.
bwaldron
08-02-08, 02:29 PM
"Millions"? Neither league was all that big back then. The NFL was bigger than the AFL, but both took a backseat to MLB.
Purtman (and Ken S.) are both correct in their history lesson.
dcowboy7
08-02-08, 02:32 PM
....and now the top 10 most watched shows of all time in tv history are all super bowls.
*i am using the nielsen total viewers stat.
Tom Robertson
08-02-08, 02:49 PM
....and now the top 10 most watched shows of all time in tv history are all super bowls.
*i am using the nielsen total viewers stat.
Interesting. The NFL only claims spots 2-10: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story?id=09000d5d806835e9&template=with-video&confirm=true :)
The game eclipsed the previous Super Bowl record of 94.08 million, set when Dallas defeated Pittsburgh in 1996. More people watched Sunday's game than all but one American television broadcast ever, the "M-A-S-H" finale in 1983, which was seen by 106 million viewers.
Cheers,
Tom
....and now the top 10 most watched shows of all time in tv history are all super bowls.
*i am using the nielsen total viewers stat.
Yes, without a doubt Pete Rozelle was a very, very smart man and a marketing genius. Couple that with NFL football is the perfect reason for many Americans to drink, eat and gamble and you have a winning combination.
Ed Campbell
08-02-08, 03:10 PM
Another parochial discussion. You mean, of course, most watched in North America, perhaps.
"According to Initiative Sports Futures, independent analysts with no ties to Fifa, the figure for the 2006 World Cup Final was 260 million in the 54 key markets it surveyed, accounting for 90 per cent of the world's TV households."
Another parochial discussion. You mean, of course, most watched in North America, perhaps.
"According to Initiative Sports Futures, independent analysts with no ties to Fifa, the figure for the 2006 World Cup Final was 260 million in the 54 key markets it surveyed, accounting for 90 per cent of the world's TV households."
I'd suggest that if you're discussing TV viewing in a DirecTV forum that is located within the United States and primarily is dedicated to the DirecTV service that is only marketed in the United States that the vast majority of discussions would probably be limited to that area.
Now if this was "Foro de debate de DirecTV" then your comment would be much more fitting. (Yes, I know that's a bad translation)
:)
dcowboy7
08-02-08, 03:26 PM
Interesting. The NFL only claims spots 2-10: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story?id=09000d5d806835e9&template=with-video&confirm=true :)
Cheers,
Tom
lol thats the viewers stat....people that watched the entire show....the other stat total viewers is anyone that watched just even a part of the show:
the top 5 are: (dont have the #'s for 6-10 but they are super bowls as well.
2008 fox 148,300,000 SB XLII
2004 cbs 144,400,000 SB XXXVIII
2006 abc 141,400,000 SB XL
2007 cbs 139,800,000 SB XLI
2003 abc 138,900,000 SB XXXVII
purtman
08-02-08, 06:26 PM
Let me rephrase....I wasn't talking about the quality of play...I was talking about public interest in the games. The NFL and AFL just weren't what they are today in terms of attracting tv ratings and fans. The AFL even less so than the NFL because it was newer and still at this time considered to be an inferior league.
Ken, that's exactly what I meant. We're on the same page. Fantasy football and betting have been a big reason behind the rise in popularity.
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