View Full Version : Phase I (August) HD Locals Launch: Augusta, Chattanooga, Lincoln-Hastings, Rochester
Though I would start a thread specific to those awaiting local HD channels in the following markets for the Phase I August 2008 rollout:
Augusta, GA.; Chattanooga, Tenn.; Lincoln-Hastings, Neb.; Rochester, N.Y.
I was hoping we might see these light up before the Olympics 8/8...maybe this Wednesday?
Anyone who might be following these launches feel free to update us on any info you may come across including transponders etc.
TribeFanInNE
08-04-08, 05:48 PM
The sooner the better for us here in Lincoln. I can't wait!
Just curious - how do the channel numbers in the Guide for locals in HD differ from those in SD?
lwilli201
08-04-08, 06:38 PM
The HD Channel will show the full call letters for the channel. 4 WDAF for HD, 4 KC 4 for SD. At least this is the way it is for KC locals.
Just curious - how do the channel numbers in the Guide for locals in HD differ from those in SD?
I would assume just like all the other HD channels. You would see a -1 next to the station.
My receiver allows me to hide SD duplicates of HD channels. So for Rochester you would see 8 and 8-1, 10 and 10-1 etc.
Indiana627
08-04-08, 06:41 PM
For the HD locals coming from D*, there will not be a -1. It will just be the same number as the SD, and if you have your box set to hide SD duplicates, you channel 8 SD will magically become channel 8 HD, same for 10, 13 and 31.
You will have to reset up your SLs from the SD channels to the HD channels.
Alan Gordon
08-04-08, 08:06 PM
The HD Channel will show the full call letters for the channel. 4 WDAF for HD, 4 KC 4 for SD. At least this is the way it is for KC locals.
DirecTV doesn't list the full call letters for SD-LIL channels coming from 101... but DMAs from 110, 119, 72.5, 99, or 103 have the full call letters for their SD-LIL. There may be newer markets on 101 that have the full call letters as well, but most of them do not.
Since three of the above listed markets (Augusta, Chattanooga, and Lincoln-Hastings) are 72.5 markets, and Rochester, NY, is a 119 market, both their SD channels and HD channels would have the full call letters.
~Alan
Jestr40
08-04-08, 08:52 PM
For the HD locals coming from D*, there will not be a -1. It will just be the same number as the SD, and if you have your box set to hide SD duplicates, you channel 8 SD will magically become channel 8 HD, same for 10, 13 and 31.
You will have to reset up your SLs from the SD channels to the HD channels.
So, here in Augusta I will have channel 2 in HD (previously in SD w/ D*) and still 2-1 OTA in HD and 2-2 in SD and 2-3 in SD?:confused:
LarryFlowers
08-04-08, 09:29 PM
Wouldn't bet a lot of money on your locals being up in time for the Olympics BUT you will still have access to Olympic Coverage: see http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=135115
Satelliteracer
08-04-08, 10:52 PM
So, here in Augusta I will have channel 2 in HD (previously in SD w/ D*) and still 2-1 OTA in HD and 2-2 in SD and 2-3 in SD?:confused:
Actually channel 2 in Augusta for you will be in HD and SD. The box will default to HD first. Most people use a feature in the guide to eliminate SD duplicate channels, but if you wished you could channel up and get the SD version channel 2 also.
Alan Gordon
08-05-08, 12:39 AM
So, here in Augusta I will have channel 2 in HD (previously in SD w/ D*) and still 2-1 OTA in HD and 2-2 in SD and 2-3 in SD?:confused:
Actually channel 2 in Augusta for you will be in HD and SD. The box will default to HD first. Most people use a feature in the guide to eliminate SD duplicate channels, but if you wished you could channel up and get the SD version channel 2 also.
In other words, the HD versions for the local channels will work similar to the way the HD versions of national channels work now. You'll have a SD and HD channel on the same number.
If you currently have your box set to show duplicates, it will show:
6 - WJBF (HD)
6 - WJBF (SD)
6-1 - WJBFDT (if you have OTA)
If you have your box set to eliminate SD duplicate channels, your HD version will simply replace your SD version of that network, and the SD version will be eliminated from the guide.
~Alan
Satelliteracer
08-05-08, 12:47 AM
In other words, the HD versions for the local channels will work similar to the way the HD versions of national channels work now. You'll have a SD and HD channel on the same number.
If you currently have your box set to show duplicates, it will show:
6 - WJBF (HD)
6 - WJBF (SD)
6-1 - WJBFDT (if you have OTA)
If you have your box set to eliminate SD duplicate channels, your HD version will simply replace your SD version of that network, and the SD version will be eliminated from the guide.
~Alan
I can't answer the OTA part since I don't have OTA, but the rest is correct. At least that's how my locals work here in L.A. on my HR20 and HR21.
DirecTV doesn't list the full call letters for SD-LIL channels coming from 101... but DMAs from 110, 119, 72.5, 99, or 103 have the full call letters for their SD-LIL. There may be newer markets on 101 that have the full call letters as well, but most of them do not.
Since three of the above listed markets (Augusta, Chattanooga, and Lincoln-Hastings) are 72.5 markets, only Rochester, NY, a 101 market, would work this way.
~Alan
I am pretty sure we (Rochester NY) are a 119 market.
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/directvusa119.html
ajtmcse
08-05-08, 05:09 AM
Yep - Rochester SD's are currently on 119 (blocked by a tree for me).
Alan Gordon
08-05-08, 08:56 AM
I am pretty sure we (Rochester NY) are a 119 market.
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/directvusa119.html
Yep - Rochester SD's are currently on 119 (blocked by a tree for me).
I looked up these markets last night, and I could have sworn Rochester was on 119. Oh well, the dangers of posting when you're tired.
~Alan
jorossian
08-05-08, 09:22 AM
Oh man... Finally! Hope it happens soon.
Yep - Rochester SD's are currently on 119 (blocked by a tree for me).
That tree needs to be taken DOWN !!!!:D
That tree needs to be taken DOWN !!!!:D
LOL - Thanks for the replies. Looks like it might be one of three different methods for displaying the numbers. :lol: :grin:
It should be pretty evident when they show up!
I'm just tickled we are finally getting the HD locals. Should be here in time to catch part/most of the Olympics & that's pretty cool.
flyingtigerfan
08-05-08, 01:54 PM
I'd truly love to know what the deal is with Columbia, SC. I wonder if it's an agreement problem with any of the stations. With all respect to the neighbors, I cannot fathom locals for Augusta, GA and Florence, SC (and to some extent Charleston) without Columbia.
jorossian
08-07-08, 05:32 AM
Any updates on this rollout? I hear they lit up Scranton/Wilkes-Barre today. Does this mean we're not in the "Phase I" group?
BlueSnake
08-07-08, 05:34 AM
I'd truly love to know what the deal is with Columbia, SC. I wonder if it's an agreement problem with any of the stations. With all respect to the neighbors, I cannot fathom locals for Augusta, GA and Florence, SC (and to some extent Charleston) without Columbia.
I heard on another forum that we might see them in November. Let's keep our fingers crossed.:sure:
Newshawk
08-07-08, 08:26 AM
Any updates on this rollout? I hear they lit up Scranton/Wilkes-Barre today. Does this mean we're not in the "Phase I" group?
Actually, Wilkes-Barre-Scranton, PA has had local channels since 1/3/2008, but they only had the ABC and Fox stations until today. The CBS and NBC stations were added this morning. Nothing has changed that I am aware of concerning the 44 new markets to be launched.
flyingtigerfan
08-07-08, 09:27 AM
I heard on another forum that we might see them in November. Let's keep our fingers crossed.:sure:
Hope so. Dish has them here already, which is another baffler! :)
Anyone have any insight as to whether we might see these light up as well tomorrow with the rest of the previously announced rollout slated for the 14th?
jimmymiko
08-13-08, 08:01 AM
I hope so. :)
God I hope so. I hate watching locals in SD. It's the only thing I miss from TW.
God I hope so. I hate watching locals in SD. It's the only thing I miss from TW.
Yeah not having the main NBC in HD is killing me for the Olympics. I would assume if everything was ready to go for this August grouping they would have rushed to get them lit up.
Maybe tomorrow :)
You have to wonder why somebody at D* didn't think - "HEY, let's get the locals we have scheduled for August turned on early enough in the month for the Olympics!"
This wait is killing me.
hdtvfan0001
08-13-08, 03:36 PM
You have to wonder why somebody at D* didn't think - "HEY, let's get the locals we have scheduled for August turned on early enough in the month for the Olympics!"
This wait is killing me.
We feel for you....the wait is the pits.
Hopefully, you'll get it just in time to see Phelps win 3 more golds... :)
You have to wonder why somebody at D* didn't think - "HEY, let's get the locals we have scheduled for August turned on early enough in the month for the Olympics!"
This wait is killing me.
I think I have told my wife the exact same quote a million times over the past week.
:lol:
Looks like it won't be long for Rochester! Too bad I am traveling this week. I have my wife on HD duty.
http://www.rhinopit.com/_misc/tv/ROCHD.jpg
Just check my web listings they show up with PBS here in THe lincoln,Hastings nebraska area. May be we will get HD locals this week
TribeFanInNE
08-18-08, 06:30 PM
Just check my web listings they show up with PBS here in THe lincoln,Hastings nebraska area. May be we will get HD locals this week
We are going to get them this week. It has been confirmed by satelliteracer. My guess is Wednesday.
ryane75
08-19-08, 07:53 AM
We must be getting close. I live in Grand Island Nebraska and I don't have local channels because when I moved in March I didn't have the second dish put up because I was told April the HD locals were going to be turned on.
Last night I went to the online guide and recorded the channel 8 news in HD and it worked. It was on my DVR and I was able to watch it. The channel doesn't show up on my DVR guide and I can't select channel 8 and go to it.
Hopefully tomorrow morning they will be turned on. :)
jacksonm30354
08-19-08, 09:27 AM
So, here in Augusta I will have channel 2 in HD (previously in SD w/ D*) and still 2-1 OTA in HD and 2-2 in SD and 2-3 in SD?:confused:
Is that an example? There is no Channel 2 in the Augusta, GA DMA:
6 WJBF ABC
12 WRDW CBS
26 WAGT NBC
54 WFXG FOX
On second thought, maybe you meant 12 since it does have 2 subchannels. 12-2 being MyNetworkTv and 12-3 being the Accuweather channel. Almost a definite you would not get 12-3 via Directv. If you do get 12-2 it would be in SD and would be mapped to a channel # not present in you DMA. I.E. in Dothan, AL, WTVY has CW and MNT subchannels that show up as channels 14 and 35 respecfully on Directv. (Glad none of my locals have 2 or more subchannels!)
jorossian
08-19-08, 10:23 PM
Looks like it won't be long for Rochester! Too bad I am traveling this week. I have my wife on HD duty.
http://www.rhinopit.com/_misc/tv/ROCHD.jpg
Looks promising! Bummer though... looks like no PBS in HD. Still, this is HUGE.
Looks promising! Bummer though... looks like no PBS in HD. Still, this is HUGE.
Why don't they uplink our local CW in HD? I currently get CW out of Washington but I want the last season of Smallville in HD. :)
Javier005
08-20-08, 04:15 AM
Lincoln-Hastings, Ne locals are up!
stoutman
08-20-08, 04:18 AM
Nothing in Rochester yet:(
stoutman
08-20-08, 04:28 AM
Yes, in Rochester too. They just came on!
stoutman
08-20-08, 05:14 AM
BTW....No PBS and Fox 31 has been blacked out since the HD came on. SD version works fine though.
jorossian
08-20-08, 06:38 AM
BTW....No PBS and Fox 31 has been blacked out since the HD came on. SD version works fine though.
Just to verify - I have the same situation. 8, 10, 13 are now in HD. 31 is there but blacked out. I called customer service and they had me do a reset and plus refreshed services, but still the same. They said it's most likely being blacked out by the local provider and they don't know why.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. :confused:
ryane75
08-20-08, 06:42 AM
We must be getting close. I live in Grand Island Nebraska and I don't have local channels because when I moved in March I didn't have the second dish put up because I was told April the HD locals were going to be turned on.
Last night I went to the online guide and recorded the channel 8 news in HD and it worked. It was on my DVR and I was able to watch it. The channel doesn't show up on my DVR guide and I can't select channel 8 and go to it.
Hopefully tomorrow morning they will be turned on. :)
My locals got turned on today, but I'm having a few problems. Here is the info:
HR20-100CS - everything works fine.
H21-200 - channels 29 & 51 work fine. Channel 5,8,10,17 have a message that says multi switch problem, tried hard & soft reboot, still not working. Has a B-Band Super 2400 for Ka-lo band up converter bbc.
D-11 - Local channels don't show up at all.
Multiswitch - Zinwell wideband 6x8 multi room sw WB68
Any solutions ??
stoutman
08-20-08, 06:47 AM
On the Rochester one, it just pisses me off that CSRs are such idiots. I have had D* for over a decade and it is painful to listen to the canned response. Maybe, satelliteracer will read the forum and get someone to fix the bug. I emailed D* and hoped I get a person who can read and think deal with the issue.
ColonelJulius
08-20-08, 06:49 AM
Refresh you services. That should take care of the issue.
Mertzen
08-20-08, 06:53 AM
H21-200 - channels 29 & 51 work fine. Channel 5,8,10,17 have a message that says multi switch problem, tried hard & soft reboot, still not working. Has a B-Band Super 2400 for Ka-lo band up converter bbc.
Might be bad wiring. check wiring from WB to box.
D-11 - Local channels don't show up at all.
These would still be SD locals. Di you have them before?
ryane75
08-20-08, 06:55 AM
I talked to a csr and they had me do a hard reboot and soft reboot and try do the satellite setup all over again. Would I still need to refresh services with my problem ? I'm at work right now so I can't try it. Directv is having a tech come out tomorrow if I can't figure it out first.
Can a D-11 receive locals for the Lincoln Hastings area now since the locals moved to a different satellite now ? I've never had the 72.5 dish.
Mertzen
08-20-08, 06:58 AM
Can a D-11 receive locals for the Lincoln Hastings area now since the locals moved to a different satellite now ? I've never had the 72.5 dish.
If you had your locals in SD from 72.5 you will still need a wing dish to receive those. The new ones are only the HD ones.
ryane75
08-20-08, 07:02 AM
If you had your locals in SD from 72.5 you will still need a wing dish to receive those. The new ones are only the HD ones.
Do we know when those will be moved off of 72.5 or at least the SD locals replicated on one of the other sats.
Mertzen
08-20-08, 07:05 AM
Do we know when those will be moved off of 72.5 or at least the SD locals replicated on one of the other sats.
There are rumored plans to move everything off the 72.5 but there are quite a bit of locals on there so it might take some time. They are to go to 99 or 103 but this would most likely require new MPEG4 equipment.
ryane75
08-20-08, 07:16 AM
There are rumored plans to move everything off the 72.5 but there are quite a bit of locals on there so it might take some time. They are to go to 99 or 103 but this would most likely require new MPEG4 equipment.
Ok, Now that I figured out that problem. This is the only one I have left.
H21-200 - channels 29 & 51 work fine. Channel 5,8,10,17 have a message that says multi switch problem, tried hard & soft reboot, still not working. Has a B-Band Super 2400 for Ka-lo band up converter bbc.
Multiswitch is a Zinwell wideband 6x8 multi room sw WB68
Newshawk
08-20-08, 07:48 AM
I talked to a csr and they had me do a hard reboot and soft reboot and try do the satellite setup all over again. Would I still need to refresh services with my problem ? I'm at work right now so I can't try it. Directv is having a tech come out tomorrow if I can't figure it out first.
Can a D-11 receive locals for the Lincoln Hastings area now since the locals moved to a different satellite now ? I've never had the 72.5 dish.
No, a D11 is not capable of receiving a signal from the 99 or 103 satellites nor is it capable of decoding a MPEG4 signal. You'll need a MPEG4 receiver such as a H2x or a DVR such as a R22 or HR2x.
Newshawk
08-20-08, 07:50 AM
Ok, Now that I figured out that problem. This is the only one I have left.
H21-200 - channels 29 & 51 work fine. Channel 5,8,10,17 have a message that says multi switch problem, tried hard & soft reboot, still not working. Has a B-Band Super 2400 for Ka-lo band up converter bbc.
Multiswitch is a Zinwell wideband 6x8 multi room sw WB68
ryane75, what channels do you see in HD in Lincoln? DirecTV's local channel lookup indicates that only the ABC and CBS stations are in HD.
ryane75
08-20-08, 07:53 AM
ryane75, what channels do you see in HD in Lincoln? DirecTV's local channel lookup indicates that only the ABC and CBS stations are in HD.
That local channels I'm getting now without the 72.5 dish on my HR20-100 are 5,8,10,17,29,51. I'm not at home right now so I'm not sure which ones are actually in HD, but I assume all of them are because what Mertzen said in one of the previous posts.
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