What Happens if we go CODE RED?

[Scott Greczkowski]

I just read an article and it almost reads like out buddy Roger wrote it.

http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm

It does bring up some good poiints though, if Code Red is called in the US what do we do? What are we supposed to do? Will we really be under marshal law?

Here now we are under Orange Alert, and here where I work, I work in the second tallest building in Connecticut. My office sits 24 stories in the air over looking the Hartford Civic Center which is directly across the street.

Security has been tightened in our building however that security is a JOKE.

In order to get onto the elevators you must show your building ID, if you dont have one just flash a drivers license and your in like Flynn. They don't even have a chance to read your name on the license.

Outside when you come in to park a guard walks about your car with a mirror on a stick with wheels. This is done to make sure there are no explosives under you car. Of course they never look IN you car or in any of your packages which can freely carry into the building. (They don't even search packages when they come in the building)

The entire thing to me is a joke.

Oh well enough of my rant.

my question is what happens if we hit Code Red?

[James_F]

Well you might want to download this program to let you know when he hit Red. :sure:

http://download.com.com/3000-2056-10189898.html?tag=lst-0-1

[Jacob S]

Drink Mountain Dew Code Red.

[Mike123abc]

We essentially had a code red level Sept 11 2001. All flights were ordered out of the air, land in 30 minutes or you will be shot down. Federal and state buildings were locked down. Business across the country shut down. That is probably what it would be like.

[Ric]

Since Code Red is for an Imminent attack, I would assume that the restrictions would be localized, not national. Each locality also seems to set the standards for itself, but here is the 'national' conditional statement:

Severe Condition (Red). A Severe Condition reflects a severe risk of terrorist attacks. Under most circumstances, the Protective Measures for a Severe Condition are not intended to be sustained for substantial periods of time. In addition to the Protective Measures in the previous Threat Conditions, Federal departments and agencies also should consider the following general measures in addition to the agency-specific Protective Measures that they will develop and implement:
Increasing or redirecting personnel to address critical emergency needs;
Assigning emergency response personnel and pre-positioning and mobilizing specially trained teams or resources;
Monitoring, redirecting, or constraining transportation systems; and
Closing public and government facilities.

[raj2001]

Our building security in NYC is also a joke. The procedure for evacuation is also pathetic.

To get in, you need either a building ID (proximity card) which you swipe at a glass turnstile manned by unarmed guards. The guards can't see who's going in or out. The logs are collected by building management, who is on a higher floor.

If you don't have a building ID, you can get a temporary one from the visitors' center, with a driver license. Anyone with USPS, FedEx and UPS uniforms are let in to the building, no questions asked, and no packages are inspected.

The procedure for evacuation:

Last Wednesday, we had a bomb scare. So, everyone on our floor was told to evacuate. They didn't even inform building management to evacuate the other floors. What's even more stupid, is that when we evacuated, we just stood outside the building waiting for it to fall down on top of us and kill us. How totally pathetic.

And forget about the fire alarm. The fire alarm is set off nearly every week for testing, and people pretty much ignore it.

One of our offices is located at One Penn Plaza, right above Penn station. I heard one of my co-workers mentioning that the security in the building will stop thieves but not terrorists. It's a bit more sophisticated though. You have to have either a building proximity card ID or a visitor pass with a barcode. To get one of those, the tenant needs to make an appointment for the visitor via an online system. But that still doesn't stop terrorists from bringing a bomb into the lobby, parking a car bomb in front of the building or going underneath and blowing up the building from Penn station.

[jrjcd]

i may have to stay at work 24/7....

[James_F]

The new terror alerts came out today....

[firephoto]

:lol:

Livin' under an Ernie alert. What a life.

[Scott Greczkowski]

Originally posted by firephoto
:lol:

Livin' under an Ernie alert. What a life.

Rumor has it that Bert has been living under Ernie for quite awhile. :) (If you know what I mean) :lol:

[sampatterson]

Poor Bert and Ernie, having to live with these rumors all these years...

[jrjcd]

i have an idea-let's just pretend 9/11 DIDN'T happen and play make believe that we don't have any reason to be on guard in a way that we never had before....those boogyman terrorist are only interested in the israelis anyway and if we just close our eyes they will go away and not bother us and we won't have any need for terrorist alerts and have to worry about thug regimes funding and supplying zealots with dangerous things that might hurt people in this country....yeah-that's the ticket-let's just make believe...

[MarkA]

I rarely post here, as my opinions aren't exactly welcomed. So I'll try to say this while offending as few people as humanly possible. The Homeland Security Department and especial,y the "Terror Alert System" are nothing more than ways to take away our constitutionally protected freedoms. Seriously people, the US is NOT free any more. This 4th of July I won't be celebrating my freedom, but instead celebrating the concept of freedom I'm praying for. It's sad, really sad.

[RichW]

jrjcd,

Then your are effectively saying that the terrorists HAVE changed our way of life - for the worse. If that is the case, then they have already accomplished much of their mission - to make us angry, paranoid, and even afraid.

The USA has done bad and stupid things in the name of security - internment of Japanese-Americans on the west coast, the McCarthy witch-hunts, and the Kent State shootings are just three that come to mind. History judges those acts as our country at its worst.

Lets use the alert system for what is was originally intended to do - to make law enforcement and public safety officials more vigilant - not to make them vigilantes.

That fact that we are at "Orange" right now is the direct result of our actions in IRAQ, not because we are hunting down the perpetrators of 9-11.

[RichW]

"I rarely post here, as my opinions aren't exactly welcomed."

Your opinions are not unwelcomed... they are just wrong! :)

As a Marine might say to a retreating Iraqi soldier - "Glad to see your back!"

[gcutler]

Originally posted by sampatterson
Poor Bert and Ernie, having to live with these rumors all these years...

Well at least they have each other, Grover has to walk the parks looking for "companionship" :p

[Bogy]

My suggestion if we go to "Code Red" is to go to church and place a large donation in the offering plate. :angel:
If you don't have a local church to attend, just send me a message and I will give an address to which any donations may be sent, thereby granting you "points" with St. Peter if it is "your time." I will, of course, put in a personal good word for you. :D

[Karl Foster]

I work in a federal building, and our security is very tight. In order to drive into the parking lot, we have to show ID to an armed security guard. Visitors (even delivery drivers) have to show two forms of ID and all delivery trucks are searched. To enter the actual facility, we have id badges that also unlock the outside doors nearest our offices. We have to have two forms of picture ID visible at all times, so I have my building ID as well as my military ID showing. Visitors have red badges on that they have to wear and must be accompanied at all times. Anyone without a badge showing is to be detained and held until armed security can diffuse the situation.

There are also cement barracades lining the front of the building and no parking in front of the building. It is pretty serious business.

We also have a military secured facility in our building, which may account for this security, but we have been on this same footing since 9/11/01. I feel safe working there, but curse every time I forget my second ID and have to go back home and get it (I only live five miles away), even though I have known the security guard for years.

[waydwolf]

Originally posted by Zac
I rarely post here, as my opinions aren't exactly welcomed. So I'll try to say this while offending as few people as humanly possible. The Homeland Security Department and especial,y the "Terror Alert System" are nothing more than ways to take away our constitutionally protected freedoms. Seriously people, the US is NOT free any more. This 4th of July I won't be celebrating my freedom, but instead celebrating the concept of freedom I'm praying for. It's sad, really sad.

So what color is the sky in this unfree world of yours? Mine is blue and with slight clouds. Temperature is reasonably warm.

After years of sexual repression in this nation backed up by peer pressure(community standards based on those of people who can remember a time before the existence of the bikini swimsuit), even the once wholesome Gallery magazine, home of the girl next door, now shows every orifice of that girl next door taking some lucky guy's equipment.

After years of political correctness from the left and earlier Red Scare from the right, whining ninnies can now block American traffic, disrupt everyones' lives merely to get some fleeting attention and hear their own lips flap. (and getting attention and hearing themselves talk is the entire reason for 99.99999% of their ranting)

After centuries of nothing better than the press, we have the Internet where you can download pics of someone's grandmother getting it on with some model over whose face is superimposed some politician's face, and far far worse. And people get PAID for this material. What the motive was is not relative. All motives get voiced.

The massive gun confiscation that the left wanted didn't happen. The massive fiscal confiscation of total taxation that the left wanted didn't happen. The massive censorship of materials the right and left wanted didn't happen. Jerry Springer's uncensored tapes actually sell. You can still buy liquor cheaply and easily in Texas and get fireworks in Ohio(last I checked). People still spend money on Ralph Nader's idiocy. By choice. By freedom.

If anything this notice is correct: the people of this country who shout about losing their freedoms do it louder and more widespread than ever before. If they were even slightly on track, do you think they'd be allowed to do so? No. By their very actions they contradict themselves entirely.

Calm down, try some decaf and a Nutrasweet snack. Lay off the conspiracy theory websites and X-Files reruns. Forget the nonsense of worry and deal with everyday life. I left the Survivalist movement precisely because of these ideas that fly in the face of every day experience and are totally debunked by two minutes at a newstand.

[Curtis0620]

Originally posted by Jacob S
Drink Mountain Dew Code Red.

I like Diet Mountain Dew Code Red.

[Bogy]

Originally posted by Curtis0620
I like Diet Mountain Dew Code Red.
And we live in a land where you are free to drink all you want of it. :D

[Roger]

Scott:

"my question is what happens if we hit Code Red?"

Do you really want to know? Let’s just say that we are living in the middle of the most evil, tyrannical government ever on the face of the earth and yes this does include Hitler and Stalin.

If we go to code red then all this kids in school will be shipped off to FEMA camps. They've been running drills for years now and the latest is in a small town in Arkansas where.....
I don't even want to talk about it.

[Scott Greczkowski]

Roger please log off now...

It's not Friday for another hour :lol:

[Roger]

I'll leave an hour early.:D

[gcutler]

Roger, Here is the proof that you are wrong. The Math Proves It!!!

[firephoto]

She can check my sum anytime. :)

[RandyAB]

so is that now the generic response to a Roger post. Just post an image of a woman and he will go away. This sounds like a right wing conspiracy to me.

[Roger]

Scott wrote:

I just read an article and it almost reads like out buddy Roger wrote it.

http://www.southjerseynews.com/issu...ch/m031603e.htm

I just read the article from the link you posted and it's accurate.

I got a couple of questions for you, Scott.

"If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outside your home, the state's anti-terror czar says."

Who's the enemy? If Arab, Muslim radicals are the threat then why will they consider you (Scott G) an enemy if you so happen to venture outside your house?

Somebody would have to be nuts to consider you a threat.

Yet, if you go outside you may be shot.

I hope this article wakes you to the danger that we are now facing.

"A red alert would also tear away virtually all personal freedoms to move about and associate."

That's not in the Constitution and this shows you that we are now close to and/or living in the 4th Reich. You are the enemy, Scott. Along with every other freedom loving American who happens to venture outside their homes when the tyrannical (code-red) police-state takes control.

I've been telling you about this for years now and the reason why I've done it is to warn you so you can prepare your family the best that you can.

""Red means all noncritical functions cease," Caspersen said. "Noncritical would be almost all businesses, except health-related.""

Is this the America that you've grown up to know? What blows my mind is that our troops are now fighting in Iraq for this crap.

""The state will restrict transportation and access to critical locations," says the state's new brochure on dealing with terrorism."

I've been saying this for years and warning about FEMA and martial law. All of this has been decided by the FEDs with unconstitutional, executive orders.

There is no longer such a thing called civil defense. We now have FEMA where only 10% of their budget is used for natural disasters. The rest is used for evil like the creation of many camps like death camps on old military bases and in Canada.

Whatever you do, don't let them inject your child with vaccines that are filled with cancer and mercury.

[gcutler]

Originally posted by RandyAB
so is that now the generic response to a Roger post. Just post an image of a woman and he will go away. This sounds like a right wing conspiracy to me.

Come Join Us... There are plenty of choices, Charlize and Britney are already drafted.

Ammunition can be found at
http://www.adoredcelebrities.com/

[James_F]

Actually I kind of agree with Roger on this one. Not to his extent, but I think we are seeing a general eroding of our individual rights.