View Full Version : Do I have the choice of a wall mount for D* install?
pdawg17
09-04-08, 05:49 PM
I am going a house remodel and would prefer the wall mount approach to a roof mount...do installers tend to have these with them or is it a special request only?
davring
09-04-08, 05:52 PM
The mounting hardware that is used is designed for wall or roof. What they use to attach it will depend on the construction of your home.
It is the same mount either way. How the dish is mounted is largely dependent on the installer.
If you're talking about an under-eave mount, that's probably going to cost extra.
HDTVsportsfan
09-04-08, 06:37 PM
You probably be better of providing the mount if you have a particular one in mind.
ebockelman
09-04-08, 08:49 PM
You might want to consider a pole mount (if you haven't already). Most installers will have an upcharge for this, but it may be worth it to you. (It was to me.)
Johnnie5000
09-04-08, 08:55 PM
I personally don't mount to walls that much anymore because, 1: can't attach to vinyl siding and pretty much everybody has that now and 2: mounting to a brick wall takes forever.
mounting to a brick wall takes forever.
You got to use power tools Cuz, them Rayovac drills are for roofs.
ironwood
09-04-08, 11:58 PM
Make sure your walls are not made of stucco supported by layer of styrofoam like in many new homes (most homes in my area). That will not hold the dish and will ruin your house.
Mertzen
09-05-08, 07:42 AM
mounting to a brick wall takes forever.
Bosch Hammerdrill and bluetip drill bits. :D
But to the OP. What kind of wall? Brick or siding?
Bosch Hammerdrill and bluetip drill bits.Drilling the hole is one thing, but choosing the right anchor is where the true artistry comes in.
Mertzen
09-05-08, 08:58 AM
Drilling the hole is one thing, but choosing the right anchor is where the true artistry comes in.
Redhead 1 1/2" * 1/4" hammer in anchors. For questionable walls 2" * 5/16 lag bolt and lag shield. :)
pdawg17
09-05-08, 10:12 AM
But to the OP. What kind of wall? Brick or siding?
Neither :D Stucco and no styrofoam...
I don't really want it roof mounted on the second story roof (WAF)...if mounted on the first floor roof down the side of the house and with the neighbor's two story house around 7 feet away to the right would this cause signal problems due to being in a gutter of sorts?
Mertzen
09-05-08, 10:28 AM
Neither :D Stucco and no styrofoam...
Forget it. Even if the tech wanted to I wouldn't let him.
I don't really want it roof mounted on the second story roof (WAF)...if mounted on the first floor roof down the side of the house and with the neighbor's two story house around 7 feet away to the right would this cause signal problems due to being in a gutter of sorts?
Hard to say, but most likely that'd be to close
pdawg17
09-05-08, 10:33 AM
Forget it. Even if the tech wanted to I wouldn't let him.
Hard to say, but most likely that'd be to close
So you are saying no wall mount and no first floor? In other words, you are saying to mount it on the second level roof?
rahlquist
09-05-08, 10:35 AM
So you are saying no wall mount and no first floor? In other words, you are saying to mount it on the second level roof?
Sounds likely, how about a pole mount?
Mertzen
09-05-08, 10:58 AM
So you are saying no wall mount and no first floor? In other words, you are saying to mount it on the second level roof?
Stucco is a bad surface to mount a ODU on, D* advises strongly against it.
I always say the higher the better.
joe diamond
09-05-08, 11:57 AM
From what has been said..........consider enough 2" od pipe to reach from the ground to the second floor roof level (where you have LOS) and another five feet. Use antenna pole hardware to attach your pole to the building at the roof edge. At ground level dig in a few bricks( for support of the pole & dish weight) and put a clamp on the pole end........pour concrete ( a bag or two to keep the pole from rotating).
Set your two story pole as close to plumb as you can. Run the cables down (or inside) this antenna mast.
Can you dig it?
Joe
BattleZone
09-05-08, 02:47 PM
Most stucco walls are too thin to be strong enough for the weight of the Slimline dish, which is quite heavy and sitting on top of a long lever (the mast). Most of the stucco wall installs that I see have a nice pattern of cracks, running from the bolt holes out several feet in all directions. More than once, I've been to a house where the dish is on the ground, or hanging from its cables, and there's a nice 8x12" hole in the wall.
Wall mounts are ideal in many situations, as the house will shelter the dish from wind, which is usually a dish's biggest enemy. But the house's contruction has to support the mounting location, or the dish has to go somewhere else.
Mertzen
09-05-08, 02:59 PM
Most of the stucco wall installs that I see have a nice pattern of cracks, running from the bolt holes out several feet in all directions. More than once, I've been to a house where the dish is on the ground, or hanging from its cables, and there's a nice 8x12" hole in the wall.
We don't have that much stucco jobs around here. But I had a slimline once barely hanging on. Called the boss and said 'not touching that'. Strangely enough months later it was still there.
Another recommendation for a pole mount.
Here's a pic of my dish tree -- 10' corner fence post from Home
Depot, 6' above ground and 4' into good ole Mother Earth with
a bolt through the bottom and a sack of Qwikrete into the hole.
Quick, easy and rock-stable.
ironwood
09-05-08, 09:27 PM
First floor roof might be ideal. Just need to figure out the elevation.
I've been asked by PM for details about my post mount (pictured above (http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15515&d=1220657125)).
The post is a 10' galvanized corner fence post from Home Depot, mounted about 4' in-ground and 6' above ground, into a 4'x8" hole with a bolt through the bottom of the post to prevent rotation. I drilled a 6' copper ground rod into the hole -- easy with a cordless drill. Finally, a sack of Qwikrete into the hole, mix with water, then temporary bracing to hold the post plumb while the cement hardens finishes the job.
The height of my post was necessitated by the roofline of my apt building which is adjacent to the post location on my exclusive-use, fenced-in patio. The Dish 500 to the far right in the pic is my next-door neighbor's.
Johnnie5000
09-06-08, 04:10 PM
Bosch Hammerdrill and bluetip drill bits. :D
Well here's another set of variables for you and your fancy tools :lol: : 2 dishes (ka and 18"), and almost always the old handmade brick that doesn't have holes in it and mortar between the bricks thats generally just sand.
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