Any Anticipation Of New HD Channels (09/17th or 18th)

[Cable_X]

Mods, if this isn't proper; please delete. :)

Does anyone care to go out on a limb and say what HD channels might show up tomorrow or Thurs., besides PPVHD or locals?

[man_rob]

Mods, if this isn't proper; please delete. :)

Does anyone care to go out on a limb and say what HD channels might show up tomorrow or Thurs., besides PPVHD or locals?

According to people who appear to be in the know, don't hold your breath. Incredibly, DirecTV hasn't worked out the contracts yet. I.E. DirecTV is holding ESPNU HD for ransom, because DirecTV is insisting that the channel be put in a pricier tier, (so they can charge us more) while ESPN wants in in basic.

[paulman182]

According to people who appear to be in the know, don't hold your breath. Incredibly, DirecTV hasn't worked out the contracts yet. I.E. DirecTV is holding ESPNU HD for ransom, because DirecTV is insisting that the channel be put in a pricier tier, (so they can charge us more) while ESPN wants in in basic.

Maybe they want to put ESPNU in a pricier tier so it will cost less to add, since they probably pay a per-subscriber rate?

[Stuart Sweet]

Well, we'll have to see in two days.

[BlueGuy]

Maybe they want to put ESPNU in a pricier tier so it will cost less to add, since they probably pay a per-subscriber rate?

I think ESPN has a legit beef. ESPNU is in the Sportspak while Big 10 Network negotiated themselves into the mid level base package. I can understand ESPN wanting similar treatment.

[merchione]

Well, we'll have to see in two days.


maybe a "hint hint" without a hint?

[dcowboy7]

ill say...........none.........& it feels more like im on a redwood branch than a limb.

[Sirshagg]

According to people who appear to be in the know, don't hold your breath. Incredibly, DirecTV hasn't worked out the contracts yet. I.E. DirecTV is holding ESPNU HD for ransom, because DirecTV is insisting that the channel be put in a pricier tier, (so they can charge us more) while ESPN wants in in basic.

Yes, if it's going to make the price go up please put ESPNU HD in the HD Extra Pack so that those of us who don't care about everything sports will not have to pay for yet another channel we don't care about.

[Kdiddy]

Yes, if it's going to make the price go up please put ESPNU HD in the HD Extra Pack so that those of us who don't care about everything sports will not have to pay for yet another channel we don't care about.

Maybe ESPN can take the extra money earned from this ESPNU deal and hire some decent MNF broadcasters. The current crew is horrendous. :nono:

[pilot305]

Here we go again............ :nono2:

[dhines]

Maybe ESPN can take the extra money earned from this ESPNU deal and hire some decent MNF broadcasters. The current crew is horrendous. :nono:

i actually enjoyed the broadcast and the announcers . . . oh, did i mention i had the game on mute?

:D

[Jason Whiddon]

Satracer said a few more weeks, would not get my hopes up.

[evan_s]

Neither company is looking out for the customers interests. They are both looking out for their own interest. ESPN wants the channel in a lower package so they can get more viewers for the channel and more money for their advertising slots. DirecTV wants to avoid putting a potentially pricey channel in it's common package that may not be wanted by most of those customers.

Having espnu in the choice like ESPN, ESPN2 etc means that DirecTV has to pay what ever cost espn is asking for the channel for every customer with that package or better. If you have that package and want it great but if the customers don't want ESPNU it is adding a cost to a lot of subscribers for a channel they may not want and it might be a pretty high cost. On the other hand putting it in the sports pack will definitely lower the number of subs but definitely have a higher percentage of customers who get the channel that are interested in it.

Given the more regional nature of college sports I think the general appeal of ESPNU might be fairly low to most Choice subs and DirecTV putting it in the sports pack is best for it's over all customer base.

[Doug Brott]

According to people who appear to be in the know, don't hold your breath. Incredibly, DirecTV hasn't worked out the contracts yet. I.E. DirecTV is holding ESPNU HD for ransom, because DirecTV is insisting that the channel be put in a pricier tier, (so they can charge us more) while ESPN wants in in basic.

.. Or perhaps ESPN is holding DIRECTV hostage requiring that DIRECTV move it from an existing tier (which was already negotiated) .. Odds are, with more eyes (in basic tier), ESPN will want more money and DIRECTV will have to pay more for the channel .. So, should DIRECTV NOT try to save money that would be passed on to it's customers?

[bwaldron]

.. Or perhaps ESPN is holding DIRECTV hostage requiring that DIRECTV move it from an existing tier (which was already negotiated) .. Odds are, with more eyes (in basic tier), ESPN will want more money and DIRECTV will have to pay more for the channel .. So, should DIRECTV NOT try to save money that would be passed on to it's customers?

Absolutely.

[BlueGuy]

Neither company is looking out for the customers interests. They are both looking out for their own interest. ESPN wants the channel in a lower package so they can get more viewers for the channel and more money for their advertising slots. DirecTV wants to avoid putting a potentially pricey channel in it's common package that may not be wanted by most of those customers.

Having espnu in the choice like ESPN, ESPN2 etc means that DirecTV has to pay what ever cost espn is asking for the channel for every customer with that package or better. If you have that package and want it great but if the customers don't want ESPNU it is adding a cost to a lot of subscribers for a channel they may not want and it might be a pretty high cost. On the other hand putting it in the sports pack will definitely lower the number of subs but definitely have a higher percentage of customers who get the channel that are interested in it.

Given the more regional nature of college sports I think the general appeal of ESPNU might be fairly low to most Choice subs and DirecTV putting it in the sports pack is best for it's over all customer base.

Maybe I'm dead wrong but it seems to me that if you pulled ESPNU off the sportspak D* would lose many sportspak subscribers who keep it largely for ESPNU.....With blackout rules there isn't a whole lot of other stations on sportspak worth subscribing to it for. I'll also say again that i can't blame ESPN for wanting equal treatment to BTN who is in a basic programming package and offers much the same product. So again, I think D* is more worried about losing Sportspak subscribers if ESPNU was on a base package then they are about what the cost impact may be to the base package itself. Seems to me D* wouldn't have this issue today had BTN been put in the Sportspak 14 months ago.

[evan_s]

Maybe I'm dead wrong but it seems to me that if you pulled ESPNU off the sportspak D* would lose many sportspak subscribers who keep it largely for ESPNU.....With blackout rules there isn't a whole lot of other stations on sportspak worth subscribing to it for. I'll also say again that i can't blame ESPN for wanting equal treatment to BTN who is in a basic programming package and offers much the same product. So again, I think D* is more worried about losing Sportspak subscribers if ESPNU was on a base package then they are about what the cost impact may be to the base package itself. Seems to me D* wouldn't have this issue today had BTN been put in the Sportspak 14 months ago.

Hmm good point. Either way I still say both companies are just looking out for themselves =)

[bruinfever]

Well, we'll have to see in two days.

We'll see but doesn't The Shadow always know?? :D

[DarinC]

I think ESPN has a legit beef. ESPNU is in the Sportspak while Big 10 Network negotiated themselves into the mid level base package. I can understand ESPN wanting similar treatment.

But you can't really determine what "similar treatment" is without knowing what Big 10 charges vs. what ESPN charges, and what, if any, other requirements Big 10 has which are similar to the ones ABC/Disney/ESPN have as far as carrying other channels, etc.

[Herdfan]

Odds are, with more eyes (in basic tier), ESPN will want more money and DIRECTV will have to pay more for the channel

But more eyes can also mean more advertising revenue for ESPN, so maybe they shouldn't have to charge more for the channel.

[tonyd79]

But you can't really determine what "similar treatment" is without knowing what Big 10 charges vs. what ESPN charges, and what, if any, other requirements Big 10 has which are similar to the ones ABC/Disney/ESPN have as far as carrying other channels, etc.

I gotta think that the Big Ten Channel is more flexible than ESPN.

Not only are they a basic channel on DirecTV but they did settle their differences with Comcast in a compromise. ESPN has not been able to add ESPNU to Comcast to date and has not been able to reach agreement on ESPNU-HD with DirecTV.

[tonyd79]

But more eyes can also mean more advertising revenue for ESPN, so maybe they shouldn't have to charge more for the channel.

:lol:

If that were the driving factor, ESPN would not be the most expensive basic cable channel on the market.

[Curtis0620]

Hate to say this but the online guide is showing Channels 197 & 198. More HD PPV.

[hdthebest]

Well if this counts for something but last year the target date for the initial launch was Sept. 19th. Why wouldn't D* continue this a year later. We know the satellite works.

[kevinwmsn]

I wouldn't begin to anticipate ESPNU going HD till at least when ESPNU moves to 609 on Sept 24.

[Curtis0620]

At 6:00am on Friday 9/19 HD-PPV channels 191-198 stop having programming.

The same thing happens on Thursday 9/25 for channels 188-190.

[Doug Brott]

Hate to say this but the online guide is showing Channels 197 & 198. More HD PPV.

Remember, HD PPV can be used for part time HD programming as well .. Think NFL ST.

[dhhaines]

Here we go again............ :nono2:

Where are we going??? :rolleyes:

And.... Are we there yet? :D

[hdthebest]

At 6:00am on Friday 9/19 HD-PPV channels 191-198 stop having programming.

The same thing happens on Thursday 9/25 for channels 188-190.

Sounds interesting but it can also mean that the online guide is not updated yet.

[Herdfan]

I wouldn't begin to anticipate ESPNU going HD till at least when ESPNU moves to 609 on Sept 24.


???? It is on 609 now.

[tonyd79]

???? It is on 609 now.

I think he meant from 609 to 614.

[mhayes70]

Maybe Fox News HD...

[kevinwmsn]

I think he meant from 609 to 614.

That's what I meant.

[MikeR7]

Who is holding the Travel Channel hostage? :lol:

[goober22]

Who is holding the Travel Channel hostage? :lol:

Bizarre Foods in HD! What could be better?! :D

Other than locals (hopefully tomorrow), I want Travel HD.

[ansky]

Some of the Encore channels in HD would be good.

[merchione]

right now I would settle with WE HD................NOT!!!!!

[kw2957]

At 6:00am on Friday 9/19 HD-PPV channels 191-198 stop having programming.

The same thing happens on Thursday 9/25 for channels 188-190.

Very interesting...we'll have to keep our eyes peeled on our guides. So we have the potential for 11 new HD channels (188-198)... :D

[Piratefan98]

At 6:00am on Friday 9/19 HD-PPV channels 191-198 stop having programming.

The same thing happens on Thursday 9/25 for channels 188-190.


I'm expecting those slots to be filled any minute with several new National HDs ..... Travel Channel HD, ESPN-U HD, PBS National HD, AMC HD, FOX News HD, Hallmark Channel HD, Chiller HD, and a few others. Should be any second now.

Jeff

[Jason Whiddon]

More like, should be any MONTH now.

[studdad]

Hate to say this but the online guide is showing Channels 197 & 198. More HD PPV.Yayyyyyy, just what I wanted:rolleyes:

[studdad]

Some of the Encore channels in HD would be good.^5

[studdad]

I'm expecting those slots to be filled any minute with several new National HDs ..... Travel Channel HD, ESPN-U HD, PBS National HD, AMC HD, FOX News HD, Hallmark Channel HD, Chiller HD, and a few others. Should be any second now.

Jeff:lol:

[jhart05]

Maybe ESPN can take the extra money earned from this ESPNU deal and hire some decent MNF broadcasters. The current crew is horrendous. :nono:


I like Jaworski, he knows his stuff. I like him on that matchup show also.

But Kornheiser is terrible and is just an idiot. I can't stand the sound of his voice.

[JoeTheDragon]

Chiller HD There web site say coming soon.

[studdad]

Chiller HD There web site say coming soon.wtf,,,,the directv website???

[studdad]

Chiller HD There web site say coming soon.Ok, i found it on the Chiller Website. When you click on it, it has no information regarding any agreements, etc., it just tells you about the transfer to digital in Feb09 and general information on getting an HD TV.

[Satelliteracer]

Lots of HD locals this week

[Jason Whiddon]

Lots of HD locals this week


Thanks for keeping us up to date on the nationals as much as you are allowed.

[Grydlok]

Richmond Locals are on

[TheRatPatrol]

Lots of HD locals this week
Yes and you also said that HD locals were the focus the next few weeks, so I'm gonna say more national HD channels the last week of Sept./first week of Oct. ;)

[Stuart Sweet]

Please continue discussion here:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=139820