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ThunderStorm
11-01-08, 12:59 PM
Installer will not wall mount HD dish
Scheduled for a new HD DVR Plus, Installer says that the HD dish is much heavier and can’t be wall mounted. The current dish is mounted to my chimney (it’s a 1970’s built house with a 3 foot by 6 foot chimney) states that the roof is much more solid than the chimney. Anyone out there have a wall mount HD setup?
Also says that the only other option is a ground mount poll but that will cost you. Later he said you can reschedule and take your chances on a different installer wall mounting it.
I respectfully disagreed and he said a supervisor will be contacting me.
davring
11-01-08, 01:03 PM
I have always prefered wall mounted dishes, no chance of a roof leak. It seems as though most installers prefer roof mounting; I think it may be easier and faster for them.
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David MacLeod
11-01-08, 01:35 PM
like this?
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1829718&postcount=75
davring
11-01-08, 01:42 PM
Nice job:) Very serviceable too.
Chimney mounts are time consuming.
Tough on tools.
Not considered custom mounts.
The ground is rarely co-located.
There is never any incentive to do a chimney mount, making it a complete waste of time and resources.
litzdog911
11-01-08, 01:48 PM
Unless you have vinyl siding, mounting the dish to your exterior wall should be no problem. Is there a line-of-sight issue?
BattleZone
11-01-08, 01:54 PM
Depending on the chimney, they can be some of the best mounting locations. My dishes are on my wood-frame chimney, mounted on the corners where the studs are.
But nothing is as good as a brick chimney (as long as it is real brick). Drill four 1/2" holes (each corner of the mast foot) into the brick (not the mortar), insert lag shields, and use 1.5" lag 5/16" lag bolts. Another bolt for each support arm, and you've got a dish that will never, ever move.
The key is to mount the mast foot as low on the chimney as reasonably possible, on one corner, and usually one of the support arms goes on the same face on the far side, and the other goes behind the dish on the side of the chimney.
If you have these supplies, it might take an extra 5-10 minutes to get the mount up, but it's pretty easy work if you can get on the roof to work, and the mount will be more solid than nearly anywhere else on the house.
David MacLeod
11-01-08, 01:54 PM
Nice job:) Very serviceable too.
you have to very careful to make sure you position the 2x4 right the first time on each area of the vinyl or you'll have a heck of an offset.
I predrilled the 2x4's and marked studs with chalk line, then positioned and drilled. then lagbolt the heck out of it.
I would not do this on a 2x4 exterior wall, mine are 2x6 studs.
BattleZone
11-01-08, 01:57 PM
Unless you have vinyl siding, mounting the dish to your exterior wall should be no problem. Is there a line-of-sight issue?
ANY siding can be a problem, though wood is the easiest to deal with. Vinyl and aluminum siding is a pain, but nothing is as bad as the concrete-asbestos tiles that were heavily used in the 50s and 60s. First, they are asbestos, so drilling holes in them without a respirator is dangerous. Then, they are super-brittle and will shatter very easily. Only one company makes replacements (using fiberglass instead of asbestos), but only in a couple of sizes, which usually don't match the sizes on the house. This makes damage claims likely and repairs very difficult.
fwlogue
11-01-08, 02:39 PM
I had the installer mount mine on the side of the house. I went up and marked the studs all out for the foot and the braces. Then made sure he lag bolted through to the studs. Been up for 2 years with no problems.
Mertzen
11-01-08, 03:34 PM
D* does not allow wall mounts in vinyl, stucco and other unsupported walls. GEt a roff, chimney or polemount.
Personally I like my roof mount (done by me :p ). It is very solid, never had an issue with leaks in 12yrs and 3 remounts, and it is easy to get to/work on.
Another option for a roof mount (that I would do now if I ever had to redo mine) is the Commdeck.
http://www.rstcenterprises.com/
vegasnv
11-01-08, 08:46 PM
D* does not allow wall mounts in vinyl, stucco and other unsupported walls. GEt a roff, chimney or polemount.In Las Vegas pretty much every house is stucco and tile roof. Every DTV dish I've seen, including mine, is wall mounted on a stucco wall.
Forgot to mention as well, hardie board can be a real PITA to wall mount to and many newer houses are using it.
It can go through drill bits like no other.
rudeney
11-01-08, 10:14 PM
Hmm, I'm probably going to reside my houe with Haride Board this spring (we have Masonite which is crap and don't even get me started on the lawsuit). I have installed some Hardie siding before and it hasn't been that bad. I have some I installed on our covered patio and I actually nailed it up with a pneumatic finish nailer. I will need to consider this as my dish is currently wall-mounted.
Hmm, I'm probably going to reside my houe with Haride Board this spring (we have Masonite which is crap and don't even get me started on the lawsuit). I have installed some Hardie siding before and it hasn't been that bad. I have some I installed on our covered patio and I actually nailed it up with a pneumatic finish nailer. I will need to consider this as my dish is currently wall-mounted.
Installing it is not bad, but lagging a dish into it can be a PITA as it makes a mess and is pretty tough stuff to drill directly through with your standard installers tools ;)
With a good saw cutting it is no big deal, and it goes up easy with a good nailer.
s57061b
11-01-08, 10:28 PM
I am a lead tech OJT for mastec and I will be glad to put one on the ground. Been working for them 3 yrs and have never charged for a ground mount. also never pole pounded one in the ground.
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