EIB CNN Disclaimer

[shy007]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

Scroll down and you will see it on the right side..... Click and listen.....

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[tampa8]

:righton:

[Bogy]

Now we know where Baghdad Bob is. He's working for Rush Lyingba, making more stuff up. :lol:

[shy007]

I think CNN admitted to this crap...... That's really the sad part.......

[Bogy]

The really sad part is that so many people don't realize that Rush is just making all this stuff up. There's no research involved. The funny part, if it weren't so sad, is that if anyone is the master of bending the truth (I hesitate in using the word in any relation to Rush Lyingba at all) it is dear old Rush. If criticizing a sitting president at a time when our military is in active conflict is treason, this is a guy who has been chief among traitors. :barf:

[shy007]

So you are saying CNN didn't admit to doing this??????

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030415-91009640.htm

[Mike123abc]

He has been playing that disclaimer each time he talks about CNN. He has been doing it since they admitted what they covered up and did not report on while in Iraq.

The CNN admission really puts them in a bad light. It essentially says you cannot trust anything that they say when reporting from another country. They will do anything to stay in the good graces of the country. Including not reporting or reporting what the Government tells them to report as fact (i.e. not challenge the statements even when they know they are not true).

Here is the admission of CNN: http://www.startribune.com/stories/562/3819844.html

[Bogy]

Originally posted by shy007
So you are saying CNN didn't admit to doing this??????

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030415-91009640.htm
No, I'm saying he is a hypocrite who has no business criticizing anyone else for bending the truth. His show has as much validity as Lenno or Letterman when it comes to factual accuracy, but he pretends like it the actual truth. Where is his disclaimer that what he says is for entertainment value only, and any similarity between what he says and the truth is only coincidence?

[Richard King]

Please point out some FACTS that he has been bending the truth on. Not opinions, FACTS. Make a list and post it here.

[Mike123abc]

The format of his show is generally he will read excerpts from an article or play sound bites from TV/Radio/Speeches and make comments on them. He always names his sources. It is also pretty clear what is his opinion and what he is getting from which sources.

I have not seen him just sitting around making stuff up. Now, he selects what he wants to comment on, and picks the articles/speeches/etc that he wants to quote/play. He freely admits his opinions and beliefs and that it is his show and he will present the stuff that he wants to present. It is up to other people to present stuff showing the other sides of issues. This is very different from just making stuff up. Also, he does love to make satire and funny blurbs up like the CNN disclaimer. He never has said the CNN disclaimer was real.

[Wedgecon]

Almost every thing he says is a lie, mis truth, or a mis interpretation.

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/limbaugh-debates-reality.html

http://members.aol.com/Falconnn/rushlie.html

http://www.rushlimbaughonline.com/

http://mobydicks.com/commons/RushLimbaughhall/messages/15.html

http://enough_already.tripod.com/rushlies.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/MJ95/fair.html

http://www.gprep.org/~gldaum/politics/rush.html

[shy007]

I'm pretty sure he says all things said on his show is Rush Limbaughs opinion....... So he has half his brain tied behind his back,just to make it fair...... The man is good in my opinion...... Those who don't like him usually are on the other side..... That's why they have that little dial on the radio.....

[shy007]

Originally posted by Wedgecon
Almost every thing he says is a lie, mis truth, or a mis interpretation.

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/limbaugh-debates-reality.html

http://members.aol.com/Falconnn/rushlie.html

http://www.rushlimbaughonline.com/

http://mobydicks.com/commons/RushLimbaughhall/messages/15.html

http://enough_already.tripod.com/rushlies.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/MJ95/fair.html

http://www.gprep.org/~gldaum/politics/rush.html


Post some sites like FoxNews, MSNBC, etc. stating facts about Rush.......

[Wedgecon]

Little chance that the mainstream media will ever say anything bad about Rush. The dirty little secret is that there is almost no such thing as a "liberal press", what little is allowed to go out is usually just put there so Conservatives like Rush have somebody to go after.

FoxNews owned by that "liberal" News Corporation/Robert Murdoch

MSNBC owned by that "liberal" corporation General Electric

CNN owned by that "liberal" corporation AOL/Time Warner

The only time the mainstream press really said that much about him was when he had his TV show a few years back.

[lastmanstanding]

~~~~His show has as much validity as Lenno or Letterman when it comes to factual accuracy,~~~~~

Bogy,

Tell me if I am wrong. From your comments, you don't like Rush and you don't listen to Rush. That' s just fine. I don't like Rather or watch his stuff.

Your dismissal of Rush's accuracy sounds tremendously like the pap packaged by the media and political left. From past experience, these types are very threatened by Rush and anyone else in media who doesn't agree with them. After decades of nearly uniform liberal leaning in the major media, Rush (and Fox News) are flies in their soup, and they can't stand it.

These attacks are purely ad hominim, seledom if ever cite verifiable distortions, and typically, after probing them a bit, reveal that they don't listen to the show enough to level credible criticism. Sure doesn't stop them, though, which is their right in this great country.

This CNN piece hurts CNN, not Rush. Then to come out in the NYT and reveal the truth after the pro-Saddam campaign CNN aired is not illegal, but it is certainly immoral, and frankly, not very bright. Liars, to be effective, must lie consistently. Maybe this is why CNN's ratings are in the toilet. Their audience is losing their taste for lies, or at least for endless liberal spin.

You can call Rush a lot of things, and I am sure you do, but by calling him a liar, you hurt your own credibility quite a lot.

Do this. Listen to Rush for an hour. Catalog three clear lies (outside of a parody please), find out what the truth is, and post them for us. Maybe he is lying, and I am missing it. If it is not important to you, don't bother. But also don't spout someone else's ad hominim attacks please. It does not reflect well on you.

[lastmanstanding]

Wedgecon,

every thing he says is a lie, mis truth, or a mis interpretation.~

Just not true. The Left can't stand not having a lock on the media anymore, so they resort to transparent ad hominim attacks. Bogy is saying the same stuff.

But you are free to live in a leftist fantasy land, and cover your ears and yell so you won't hear anything that threatens it.

By the way, what do you think of CNN covering up for Saddam for 12 years? Now there's journalism with integrity!

[shy007]

This is the game the Democrats play...... Look at these 2 quotes from Tom "Puffdaddy" Daschle......

This president failed so miserably in diplomacy that we are now forced to war.
--Tom Daschle, last week, when President Bush, struck Iraq

We have exhausted all of our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that . . . we have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.
--Tom Daschle, in 1998, when President Clinton, struck Iraq

[Bogy]

Originally posted by shy007
This is the game the Democrats play...... Look at these 2 quotes from Tom "Puffdaddy" Daschle......

This president failed so miserably in diplomacy that we are now forced to war.
--Tom Daschle, last week, when President Bush, struck Iraq

We have exhausted all of our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that . . . we have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.
--Tom Daschle, in 1998, when President Clinton, struck Iraq
This is exactly the game the Republicans also play. Check the list on the other thread where you posted Tom's quotes.

As far as documenting the way Rush plays fast and loose with the truth, that will have to wait until at least Monday. I'm kind of tied up with something more important right now. If you don't understand, check my profile.

[Halfsek]

Originally posted by Bogy

...

As far as documenting the way Rush plays fast and loose with the truth, that will have to wait until at least Monday. I'm kind of tied up with something more important right now. If you don't understand, check my profile.

That's okay, he's not on during the weekends. But you already knew that becuase you listen to him everyday to catch his lies, right? :D

[waydwolf]

:bang :flaiming:

    Speaking as someone who grew up in a housing project at the hands of liberal social engineering and who is treated instantaneously differently by them when I correct their snap judgement that I'm totally white by letting them know I am part MicMac and thus revealing their racism, I say, "RUSH IS RIGHT!!!"

    Rush's opponents are many and varied but they have in common a distorted world view wherein advancement is not based on effort or merit but granted from on high to those who are favored by the intelligentsia who know better than us common rabble.

    They believe ernestly in total contradiction of twenty-seven thousand years of human history that fighting back against bullies encourages them and that appeasment and submission are the only answer to such pr*cks.

    Their pathological obsession with and addiction to money that manifestly does not belong to them and was not earned by them has impoverished many and caused others to struggle mightily to stay in place and not backslide, never mind advance and prosper.

    Equality and social peace are ever eshewed by them as we are in their view totally creatures of our gender, ethnicity, race, locale, and any other narrow way they can define us and fit us into their demented theoretical social calculus.

    I spent decades having no one to listen to but liberal morons spewing crud that was diametrically opposed to my everyday reality and experiences. Rush is one of the few people on the air in the commentary arena that I can listen to without screaming at the ceiling of my truck in anger.

    And for those who wonder why Rush draws such fire from people, consider that those firing away aren't firing from the sunny lands of reality. They are the same people, who when the late Morton Downey Jr. physically leapt to the defense of Roy Innis of the Congress of Racial Equality against Neo-Nazis on his show, called Morton Downey Jr. a racist and called Roy Innis an "Uncle Tom". I relished EVERY time Mort verbally body-slammed Tom Metzger and only wished he would have done it to the scumbag for real. Nevertheless, the "reality" of their lefty world is that Mort and Rush are racist, sexist, etc.

    The real racists and sexists are those who insist on grading school children based on the color of their skin and not their test results, who insist one minute that women belong in front line combat units and then decry their being wounded and captured in the, what else, combat that goes with it.

    The real racists are those on the left who endlessly grandstand against Indian casinos and any other money-making industry on reservations, but have zero problem with the epidemic of total poverty, obesity, diabetes, and other health problems among Native Americans on the reservations, partly due to social programs sending them food richs in processed sugars and other compounds they genetically have no history of interaction with or resistance to. Ever see the diabetes rates among the Navajo? 

    The real sexists are those who react with utter hostility to any woman who proudly proclaims her desire to have children, be married, raise a family, be a grandmother while encouraging and celebrating any woman who aborts her children, or has them and then divorces her husband, or unmarried actively seeks to use a man as a walking turkey baster full of sp*rm.

    The real enemies of the average American are those that exhort them to blame everyone else under the sun for their problems based on political theorizing, teach them to avoid hard work and cynically try to convince them that they cannot make it while doing everything within their power to manipulate law and the tax code to make that possibility of failure a certainty.

    They've left us with an unusable education system that teaches imagined nonsense first, hard science and mathematics last. We've gone from a country where you had carpentry, metalwork, electronics, and automotive mechanic industrial arts classes in junior and senior high to classes where kids learn to program German and Japanese CNC benchtop machines(which they are never trained in the making of) to make plastic chess pieces and sew stuffed animals and cook chocolate chip pancakes.

    What is the most disturbing about all this is that we seem to be the most powerful and prosperous nation out there. If we are the top of the heap while doing this badly under so much self hobbling, then the rest of the world must really be tweaked and headed south. One can only imagine where we might be if people were actually encouraged to excell, strive, and achieve while bonds and barriers to such things were actively hunted down and removed from their path.

    Sorry to :rant:, but the very subject of Rush brings to mind thirty plus years of anger at what liberalism, socialism, and outright communism have done. They created a world where it was politically incorrect of my ex who was black to have a white boyfriend, where every attempt I've made at education has been blockaded causing me to have to waste precious energies on circumventing them and learning what I want to know anyhow, where I work four out of six days a week to pay income, auto, property, sales, gas, and all other taxes and levies for their pet projects. Rush is an open window in a world his opponents have tried to close the blinds in for me and those who suffered under their yoke.

 

[Halfsek]

Originally posted by waydwolf
:bang :flaiming:

    Speaking as someone who grew up in a housing project at the hands of liberal social engineering...

 

Wow! Great job. You said it way better than my white as bread immigrant arse could have ever done.

Keep it up. :goodjob: :righton:

[Bogy]

Originally posted by shy007
Post some sites like FoxNews, MSNBC, etc. stating facts about Rush.......
So you don't consider the sites listed as being "fair" in their assessment of Rush, but you consider the Washington Times a reliable source of information on CNN? How many reporters, sources, translators, etc. should have died so that you could have had an even better picture of Saddam's regime of terror? Like you didn't know anyway?
At least Jordan, to the surprise of many, has come clean about how information was held back. Who is holding a gun to Rush's head as he misleads, obfuscates, and spews unpatriotic vitriol year after year, giving aid and comfort to our enemies?

[Halfsek]

Originally posted by Bogy
...Who is holding a gun to Rush's head as he misleads, obfuscates, and spews unpatriotic vitriol year after year, giving aid and comfort to our enemies?

Details? Specifics?
It's funny, his show mainly consists of him reading articles- good chunks of them, not little soundbites that can be taken out of context and playing audio clips- again, full length ones.
He then goes and gives his opinions about it; as well as his opinions regarding the agendas of the people in question.

Now if you disagree with his opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. But to say that he lies and (my favorite) "spews unpatriotic vitrol year after year, giving aid and comfort to our enemies" strikes me as one who never listens to him. And why should you? You don't like him. I don't listen to shows I dislike.

[toenail]

Originally posted by lastmanstanding


Do this. Listen to Rush for an hour. Catalog three clear lies (outside of a parody please), find out what the truth is, and post them for us. Maybe he is lying, and I am missing it. If it is not important to you, don't bother. But also don't spout someone else's ad hominim attacks please. It does not reflect well on you.

Especially when a lot of those attacks come from an organization like FAIR. Talk about a misnomer! At least they have the honesty to admit that their purpose is to destroy Rush's credibility. Not exactly a neutral organization, despite their other apparent claims to the contrary.

[Bogy]

Originally posted by Halfsek
Details? Specifics?You have got to be kidding? The charge of being unpatriotic and aiding our enemies is made against every person who does not support President Bush, because we are at war. What support did Rush give to our president when we were in military conflict with Kosovo?

You are right, I seldom listen to Rush, because he just makes me mad. But I don't have to in order to prove he does not tell the truth. He admits himself about half the stuff he says that is not true. He just makes the "apology" that he "mis-spoke." Like that would get one of his targets off the hook. From what I can see, Fair is at least as unbiased and "fair" as Rush is.

[Richard King]

From what I can see, Fair is at least as unbiased and "fair" as Rush is.Last time I checked, Rush never claimed to be unbiased. Fair, even in the name is claiming to be "fair", which it is not, being simply a conduit for leftist crap.

[James_F]

Originally posted by shy007



Post some sites like FoxNews, MSNBC, etc. stating facts about Rush.......

LOL, you really don't have a clue do you.

[Halfsek]

Originally posted by Bogy
You have got to be kidding? The charge of being unpatriotic and aiding our enemies is made against every person who does not support President Bush, because we are at war. What support did Rush give to our president when we were in military conflict with Kosovo?

You are right, I seldom listen to Rush, because he just makes me mad. But I don't have to in order to prove he does not tell the truth. He admits himself about half the stuff he says that is not true. He just makes the "apology" that he "mis-spoke." Like that would get one of his targets off the hook. From what I can see, Fair is at least as unbiased and "fair" as Rush is.

Hmmm, of all the times I heard him, he never said that it's unpatriotic to not support Bush. Others have, which I don't necessarily agree with.

And he admits that half the time he's made a mistake? Really? funny, you must listen to him more than I do.

[markh]

Originally posted by Rking401
Last time I checked, Rush never claimed to be unbiased. Fair, even in the name is claiming to be "fair", which it is not, being simply a conduit for leftist crap.

Rush is just a conduit for right wing crap.

It's funny how he talks about being asked to go on SOOOO many shows to talk politics and always turns them down. IMO, he is scared to death of an open discussion on anything. His specialty is carefully prepared attacks on those who disagree with him.

For example, when he was on Letterman a few years ago I remember an exchange that went like this:

Rush- Have you seen Hillary's new hairstyle? She looks like the Indian hood ornament on an old Pontiac.

Letterman- That's an interesting comment coming from such a good looking example of a human.

Huge applause from the audience. An unfair personal attack answered with another. Rush looked like he wanted to crawl in a hole and I haven't seen him on many shows after that. He really is a bully, willing to slander, libel, criticize, and attack as long as nobody can answer back.

Since we're walking down Rush memory lane, I remember my favorite call on his radio show. The caller started out by saying he had learned so much fron the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Republican Studies. Rush pointed out that it was the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. The caller replied, that may be true, but my acronym is more accurate. :lol:

[lastmanstanding]

~~~~Who is holding a gun to Rush's head as he misleads, obfuscates, and spews unpatriotic vitriol year after year, giving aid and comfort to our enemies?~~~~~~

Bogy,

To have any meaning at all, you should fashion your comments to demonstrate that you have at least a very slight knowledge of the subject.

Bowel sounds and gutteral noises like what you posted above does worse than reflect poorly on you, it makes me think that you are either completely insincere or frankly irrational, decending nearly to clang associations.

Another take is that you are completely unable to support your position, but still feel strongly, so you resort to fussing and cliches, hoping no one will notice.

You might as well say that Rush is a space alien being control by evil jews who live on the moon.

If you are a minister, your sermons must be a real hoot. Do you have any on MP3 you could post?

Your embrace of the Left is so interesting, because the first thing the communists do when they take over, after they purge the popluation and send dissenters who aren't worth killing for 're-education', is CLOSE THE CHURCHES.

Just think Bogy, if you get your way, you might be preaching from a gulag five years from now.

Remember, just because someone doesn't blindly agree with the Left, that doesn't make what they believe a lie. Liberalism leads to socialism that gives us poverty shared equally, except for the elites. Bogy, don't count on the elites letting you in.

Maybe someday you will see how hard you are working to destroy what you claim to love. Pray for insight, and I will too.

[toenail]

Bogy just appears to be a typical member of the Christian Left. I realize the media doesn't use that term very often, but go figure! That term is starting to get more use lately. One of the talk show hosts in the Twin Cities has taken to using it regularly. Seems more than appropriate. The big question is whether, if it becomes more prevalently used, it will have attached to it the negative connotations that "Christian right" has picked up from the largely liberal media.

[James_F]

Originally posted by lastmanstanding
[BLiberalism leads to socialism that gives us poverty shared equally[/B]
And conservatism leads to facism that gives us no rights. What is your point?

[Bogy]

Originally posted by lastmanstanding
is holding a gun to Rush's head as he misleads, obfuscates, and spews unpatriotic vitriol year after year, giving aid and comfort to our enemies?

Bogy,

To have any meaning at all, you should fashion your comments to demonstrate that you have at least a very slight knowledge of the subject.

Bowel sounds and gutteral noises like what you posted above does worse than reflect poorly on you, it makes me think that you are either completely insincere or frankly irrational, decending nearly to clang associations.

Another take is that you are completely unable to support your position, but still feel strongly, so you resort to fussing and cliches, hoping no one will notice.

You might as well say that Rush is a space alien being control by evil jews who live on the moon.

If you are a minister, your sermons must be a real hoot. Do you have any on MP3 you could post?

Your embrace of the Left is so interesting, because the first thing the communists do when they take over, after they purge the popluation and send dissenters who aren't worth killing for 're-education', is CLOSE THE CHURCHES.

Just think Bogy, if you get your way, you might be preaching from a gulag five years from now.

Remember, just because someone doesn't blindly agree with the Left, that doesn't make what they believe a lie. Liberalism leads to socialism that gives us poverty shared equally, except for the elites. Bogy, don't count on the elites letting you in.

Maybe someday you will see how hard you are working to destroy what you claim to love. Pray for insight, and I will too.
Lastmanstanding, I just got done with a Bible Study on Romans 3:1-20. Very interesting. Paul has a lot to say about the issue of Christians who perceive themselves as being superior.

My theology is based on one thing. God's command. "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind. And love your neighbor as yourself." Now if that results in my appearing to be "leftist" or "liberal" or an "internationalist/globalist" thats to bad. If I have a problem with intolerance in my own life, it is with those in positions of power and influence who use that position to spew hate, divisiveness, and intolerance. And as any good prophet, I will continue to preach against such idolatry.

BTW, I had very good comments on my sermon again last Sunday, from both the conservative and liberal members of my congregation, because I preach a Biblical message, and they recognize that.

[toenail]

Originally posted by James_F

And conservatism leads to facism that gives us no rights. What is your point?

That does not compute, at least in Minnesota. Here, the liberals in the legislature are much more busy trying to pass laws that further and further restrict our rights and freedoms. The conservatives generally take the position that we should have legislative sessions less frequently, so that we don't get so many new laws passed. Also bear in mind that, quite often, when one group gains "rights" another group loses them. A simple example would be laws that give gays "protected status." Gays arguably benefit from those laws. People who don't wish to associate with gays lose their freedom of association. I'm not advocating for either position here, just citing an example. There are many similar examples. Every increase in income taxes means we have less of our own money (which equates to economic freedom). Generally, conservatives are not the ones pushing for tax increases.

Fascism has had several definitions and "faces." A simple definition of fascism is:

n : a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government

That definition could certainly apply to Russia under Stalin, as well as the obvious examples of Mussolini's Italy (where it started) and Nazi Germany. The bottom line seems to be that both extreme "conservatism" and extreme "liberalism" can morph into fascism under certain conditions.

[RichW]

Yep my feeling is that the very extremes in politics gert so far away from the center that they go around to the backside of society and meet each other.

It is ironic (Iranic?) that we are now trying to prevent a fundamentalist government from forming in Iraq, while many of those same folks in our government want a fundamentalist based USA.

As to losing "freedom of association", that is a misnomer. No one is saying you have to march in the Gay pride parade or invite them into your home. The laws are meant to simply mitigate the discrimination in the PUBLIC sector - corporate jobs and public accomodations. I don't see any difference between that and existing laws protecting racial, ethnic, or gender status. I am sure there are white people still who won't associate with blacks and they are free to have that attitude.