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SBacklin
12-17-08, 01:37 PM
Okay. My equipment arrived. They sent me a Slimline dish. The LNB assembly has the 3 white seperate LNB knobs. Now from what I've read its the Slimline 5LNB dish setup. I read that the Slimline dish with 3LNB is the single knob assembly. Am I right? As for the receivers, they sent me a HR22-100 and the R22-100. Are these good DVR receivers or should I be crying foul? LOL Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
curt8403
12-17-08, 01:38 PM
Okay. My equipment arrived. They sent me a Slimline dish. The LNB assembly has the 3 white seperate LNB knobs. Now from what I've read its the Slimline 5LNB dish setup. I read that the Slimline dish with 3LNB is the single knob assembly. Am I right? As for the receivers, they sent me a HR22-100 and the R22-100. Are these good DVR receivers or should I be crying foul? LOL Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
it is a 5 lnb unit, and the rcvrs are goor rcvrs. no foul
SBacklin
12-18-08, 07:59 AM
it is a 5 lnb unit, and the rcvrs are goor rcvrs. no foul
Thats good. My install is scheduled for tomorrow......HOWEVER, lol, it started snowing this morning. Man.....I just hope it turns to rain and washes it away. O_O
joe diamond
12-18-08, 08:49 AM
Thats good. My install is scheduled for tomorrow......HOWEVER, lol, it started snowing this morning. Man.....I just hope it turns to rain and washes it away. O_O
S,
As Curt stated you have the correct EQ. You are OK to be confused by the number of horns........the 5LNB dish has three horns and the 99 101 & 103 are consolidated in one of the horns; there are 5 (Low Noise Blockdown Converters) LNBs in there.
During the installation you want to make sure the installer selects the 5LNB dish when he is setting up your receivers. A very common error is to select the 3 LNB III Phase dish, which is not the same thing but looks similar.
If you have HD channels on the HR22 ONLY he got it right. HR = high definition recorder. The R22 is a recorder but is SD ( standard definition) Both will need two lines to record while watching other material.
Report back how it goes............heavy snow or rain will block the signal.........which is needed to activate your account. The tech may not be able to walk on your roof if is ices up. I didn't know it snowed in Emerald City. Kick the man behind the curtain!
Joe
SBacklin
12-18-08, 08:52 AM
Ok. Will do. I just hope it can actually be installed tomorrow with the weather we have been having.
SBacklin
12-18-08, 09:26 AM
Yeah it decided to snow last night. LOL he wouldn't have to walk on the roof. This has to be some kind of pole mount. I left specific notes in the order as to what is required. Hopefully he doesn't cancel and can get it working. I even have the tripod for my old round dish if he has some kind of adapter for the larger dish.
joe diamond
12-18-08, 10:23 AM
Yeah it decided to snow last night. LOL he wouldn't have to walk on the roof. This has to be some kind of pole mount. I left specific notes in the order as to what is required. Hopefully he doesn't cancel and can get it working. I even have the tripod for my old round dish if he has some kind of adapter for the larger dish.
That tripod could get you going..........you should be there to watch him tune it.
If your ground is frozen that tripod could be it for awhile. The 5LNB dish uses 2" pipe. You can use all thread or muffler clamps to attach the mast that is provided.
You will need lots of weight to hold the tripod in position.......consider spiking it to a pallet and putting six or more cinder blocks on it. Unlike Oklahoma, where the wind comes right behind the rain, I hear Emerald City just gets wind until it stops.
Do not assume the notes will reach the tech.
Joe
SBacklin
12-18-08, 10:29 AM
If I'm not mistaken the tripod is currently being held down by long metal stake things that are put into the ground. Hopefully, things go well.
bobnielsen
12-18-08, 10:43 AM
I just checked the weather forecast and it looks like the snow should taper off later in the day, but I doubt we will see any rain and it will be below freezing through tomorrow so good luck! I have about 2 in. of snow now (it is still coming down) and no reception problems yet.
SBacklin
12-18-08, 01:25 PM
Well, the installer people called me twice this morning. The first time they said that they were going to try it today but were going to hold off until tomorrow because of the weather but a little while later called back and said they were coming out this afternoon. LOL I was like okay. LOL
SBacklin
12-18-08, 11:35 PM
Well, the installer left about an half an hour ago. The install seems to be a success. He installed the dish on a pole mount. The only issue is that one of the B Converters is bad as it causes signal degredation on one tuner. So I have to get D* to send me another one. Other than that everything seems fine.
SBacklin
12-19-08, 10:57 PM
The installer said that flat cables didn't work well with HD signal. I was using flat cable previously through a window. They weren't bent, I just used them along with window weather stripping to keep it sealed without having to shut the window all the way and bend the flat cable. Would flat cables really have caused issues for me? Just curious. Thanks for the input.
SDizzle
12-19-08, 11:06 PM
My sister just used movers connection, and she got an HD dish with 1 horn....what is the technical name for this one? It says slimline on the face.
firefighter4evr
12-20-08, 05:24 AM
My sister just used movers connection, and she got an HD dish with 1 horn....what is the technical name for this one? It says slimline on the face.
SL3?
SBacklin
12-21-08, 09:21 AM
The installer said that flat cables didn't work well with HD signal. I was using flat cable previously through a window. They weren't bent, I just used them along with window weather stripping to keep it sealed without having to shut the window all the way and bend the flat cable. Would flat cables really have caused issues for me? Just curious. Thanks for the input.
Does anyone have any input on this?
RobertE
12-21-08, 09:44 AM
The installer said that flat cables didn't work well with HD signal. I was using flat cable previously through a window. They weren't bent, I just used them along with window weather stripping to keep it sealed without having to shut the window all the way and bend the flat cable. Would flat cables really have caused issues for me? Just curious. Thanks for the input.
Does anyone have any input on this?
Ones rated to the proper freqs work just fine. The issue is the short lifespan/failure rate.
There is one guy here who lives in an apartment. So his cables must go through his patio door. This guy either intentionally or just out of pure stupidity continues to slam the door on those cables. So, we are rolling a truck almost weekly to "fix" the problem. Of course this guy is a pure ray of sunshine when we show up, he's mad, the wifes mad that the TV is out. I refuse to repair anything for this guy.
But back to the cables. With the short lifespan, a repeat service call and potential for a chargeback is why a lot of techs don't/won't use them.
SBacklin
12-22-08, 08:53 AM
Yeah. I can understand that. I'm just wondering if I'm in that same boat. The flat cables go underneath the window and they're not bent. The cables just lay flat with weather stripping on the window gap to keep it sealed.
firefighter4evr
12-22-08, 10:14 AM
Yeah. I can understand that. I'm just wondering if I'm in that same boat. The flat cables go underneath the window and they're not bent. The cables just lay flat with weather stripping on the window gap to keep it sealed.
My brother had the same issue the installer simply refused to install him using flat cables (Springfield, MO market) and that was all he figure he could use since the landlord will not allow holes drilled in his building.
So, a poster on here (forgive me as i don't remember who) said about seeing what the length of the window was and cutting a 2X4 to that length, then you could place it in the window and close it... then, you could use the 2X4 to do your drilling and use regular RG6 for wiring. If you would decide to move then all you would have to do is remove the cables and the 2X4... no damage done to the building.
When i went out there this past summer that's what we did.... the installer was happy.... the landlord was happy.... and my brother was happy.
BattleZone
12-22-08, 12:32 PM
There is one guy here who lives in an apartment. So his cables must go through his patio door. This guy either intentionally or just out of pure stupidity continues to slam the door on those cables. So, we are rolling a truck almost weekly to "fix" the problem. Of course this guy is a pure ray of sunshine when we show up, he's mad, the wifes mad that the TV is out. I refuse to repair anything for this guy.
But back to the cables. With the short lifespan, a repeat service call and potential for a chargeback is why a lot of techs don't/won't use them.
Concur 100%. Flat cables in a window, especially one that isn't used much, can be okay.
Flat cables on a patio door WILL be damaged and WILL generate repeat service calls. No matter what a customer tells you, they WILL slam the door on the flat cable, and in a very short amount of time, the flat cable will fail. And the customer will always, ALWAYS call the sat company and complain, and will never take responsiblity for the problem themselves.
Given that both DirecTV and Dish treat repeat service calls harshly (i.e., chargebacks, routing rankings, etc.), it is better for a tech to walk away rather than put in a system that is going to break, and sooner rather than later.
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