View Full Version : How much is MLB Extra Innings?
thestaton
01-08-09, 05:55 PM
This is my first year with D* and I'm curious how much it costs to get MLB Extra Innings.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3180002
I checked that out but they don't mention a price.
Do you have to pay extra to get HD like the Sunday Ticket?
wilsonc
01-08-09, 06:16 PM
Last year renewal price was $169, payable in 4 installments. I believe the new subscription was $20 more. If you want HD, you had to add Superfan, which was another $12.50 a month. No word on how its going to work this year, but I don't see any reason for them to change, although, it would be nice not having to pay extra for HD.
If you want HD, you had to add Superfan, which was another $12.50 a month. .
mlb superfan is not 12.50 a month...thats 150 for the year...its 99 per year.
mlb superfan is not 12.50 a month...thats 150 for the year...its 99 per year.
It's $12.50/month for four months. It was not $99 last year. The charge for HD for baseball is even more ridiculous than that for football as customers with the sports pack and HD are already paying for that HD channel. DirecTV is actually blacking out a channel that the customer is paying to receive in order to charge them again.
NKy.Yall
01-11-09, 11:24 AM
I cannot agree more on this one !!!!!!!!! I DO have NFL ST/SF and I also have the sports pack and the MLB/SF pack and on top of that the HD package as well. But on the other hand I`m the one paying for it,not like D*`s holding a gun to my head and forcing me to do so.
Ice Runner
01-11-09, 12:35 PM
Yeah, I subscribe to Center Ice and have to pay nothing extra to get the HD channels.
cforrest
01-11-09, 01:11 PM
Ice runner,
I think the NHL and NBA do not allow D* to charge for HD feeds. They don't want a Superfan package, which I am happy about, since we shouldn't have to pay more for HD. Unfortunately, there is no game mix for either NBA or NHL packages because of this.
I cannot agree more on this one !!!!!!!!! I DO have NFL ST/SF and I also have the sports pack and the MLB/SF pack and on top of that the HD package as well. But on the other hand I`m the one paying for it,not like D*`s holding a gun to my head and forcing me to do so.
Yes, no one is holding a gun...but the quality of the SD broadcasts are so poor with blurring and pixelation so commonplace it's an eye-watering experience.
Ice runner,
I think the NHL and NBA do not allow D* to charge for HD feeds. They don't want a Superfan package, which I am happy about, since we shouldn't have to pay more for HD. Unfortunately, there is no game mix for either NBA or NHL packages because of this.
If that is the only difference, "Game Mix", then it's not worth the extra money. We already pay for HD Access.
txtommy
01-11-09, 04:46 PM
If that is the only difference, "Game Mix", then it's not worth the extra money. We already pay for HD Access.
I agree. If they are charging extra for Game Mix, I wish they would do away with it. I just want to be able to watch games in HD. I don't need the frilly extras and certainly don't want to be charged for them.
I had a thread about MLB EI. I guess it got lost among all the threads. I mentioned being told something by a reliable source. Part of what was said was an indication that somethings may be changed about MLB EI. It kind of sounds to me that you "might" be getting what you want. As for myself I would really miss the mixed channels.
NKy.Yall
01-12-09, 07:26 AM
Yes, no one is holding a gun...but the quality of the SD broadcasts are so poor with blurring and pixelation so commonplace it's an eye-watering experience.
Ken, I`m with ya 100 % on that, kind of like your eyes are held hostage :lol:
I had a thread about MLB EI. I guess it got lost among all the threads. I mentioned being told something by a reliable source. Part of what was said was an indication that somethings may be changed about MLB EI. It kind of sounds to me that you "might" be getting what you want. As for myself I would really miss the mixed channels.
Dolly,
MLB Network will have cameras at every stadium and be going game to game...oh and they'll be doing it every day not when it is convenient like Strike Zone.
Dolly,
MLB Network will have cameras at every stadium and be going game to game...oh and they'll be doing it every day not when it is convenient like Strike Zone.
But that is not the same thing as the mixed channels that D* has carried in the past :( And it seems like D* has forgotten MLB EI anyway. The last time I looked at their website there were all kinds of sports tickets listed, but not MLB EI :confused:
DodgerKing
01-18-09, 09:10 AM
Ice runner,
I think the NHL and NBA do not allow D* to charge for HD feeds. They don't want a Superfan package, which I am happy about, since we shouldn't have to pay more for HD. Unfortunately, there is no game mix for either NBA or NHL packages because of this.
If Direct did not charge extra for an extra SF add on, they would simply raise the price of the standard package. 1/2 dozen of 1 or 6 of the other...what's the difference?
DodgerKing
01-18-09, 09:12 AM
I agree. If they are charging extra for Game Mix, I wish they would do away with it. I just want to be able to watch games in HD. I don't need the frilly extras and certainly don't want to be charged for them.
Especially now that the MLB channel will pretty much be doing the same thing as the strike zone channel.
colebert
01-20-09, 09:05 PM
They should keep GameMix. It was the best (quickest) way I could figure out if there were any games on at that time. It's Thursday afternoon... are there any games on? ::FLIP TO GAMEMIX:: Oh... Cubs and Dodgers at Wrigley.
Plus I have watched the Game Mix Channel when a game i was interested in was blacked out i could still see the little box the game was in and hear the audio from the Game Mix Channel. They have to keep Game Mix. It is one way to see a game when it is blacked out.
Stealth87
01-20-09, 09:47 PM
I'd like to see the Game Mix in HD. Last year it was awful to look at on a HDTV.
dbsdave
01-20-09, 11:59 PM
Game mix is essential.
giantsox
01-21-09, 05:26 PM
I'd like to see the Game Mix in HD. Last year it was awful to look at on a HDTV.
Ditto, when the NFL package changed the game mix to HD it was soooooo much better than the SD version. I'd have to think that an MLB HD game mix would look fantastic also. Who knows though if they will even be adding that channel??
When are they going to tell us what they are going to do and what it will cost? In my setup site on D*'s website there is no listing of me ever having had the baseball package :eek2: Do you think they are getting away from auto renewal :confused:
Satelliteracer
01-21-09, 10:08 PM
When are they going to tell us what they are going to do and what it will cost? In my setup site on D*'s website there is no listing of me ever having had the baseball package :eek2: Do you think they are getting away from auto renewal :confused:
Auto renewal is next week. MLB is still finalizing prices, will know on Monday.....for many of you, it will be good news. :)
Auto renewal is next week. MLB is still finalizing prices, will know on Monday.....for many of you, it will be good news. :)
Change has come !!! :grin: ? Always good to see an optimistic post from a reliable source. Personally, this is one package that I still feel is quite a value.
Steve615
01-21-09, 10:20 PM
Auto renewal is next week. MLB is still finalizing prices, will know on Monday.....for many of you, it will be good news. :)
As always,thanks much for the info Satelliteracer. :)
Stealth87
01-21-09, 11:23 PM
Last year was my first year with MLB EI. How does auto renewal work? Am I just charged the best price or will I have to call D* to order?
Satelliteracer
01-22-09, 01:21 AM
Last year was my first year with MLB EI. How does auto renewal work? Am I just charged the best price or will I have to call D* to order?
You are charged the best price. It will appear on your next bill at $0 and then around March 1st it will appear as the first payment of four payments in the lowest price of the season.
If you wish not to auto renew, you can cancel before the season starts which I think is April 6th this year.
Auto renewal is next week. MLB is still finalizing prices, will know on Monday.....for many of you, it will be good news. :)
Thanks Satelliteracer :sunsmile: But I'm not so sure about the part "for many of you, it will be good news"
:scratch: I'm getting the feeling that the game mix isn't
going to be included :(
Satelliteracer
01-22-09, 09:05 AM
Thanks Satelliteracer :sunsmile: But I'm not so sure about the part "for many of you, it will be good news"
:scratch: I'm getting the feeling that the game mix isn't
going to be included :(
Oh it will DEFINITELY be included!! :D Unless MLB says we can't do it anymore....
masterdeals
01-22-09, 11:36 AM
Hmmm, are you hinting at the end of Superfan for MLB? Or just a possible lower price?
Oh it will DEFINITELY be included!! :D Unless MLB says we can't do it anymore....
Thanks Satelliteracer :sunsmile: I love the game mix and I also love the menu that gives the standing of teams and players that have the most home runs, etc. I don't use Strike Zone at all so that I wouldn't miss.
Auto renewal is next week. MLB is still finalizing prices, will know on Monday.....for many of you, it will be good news. :)
Blackout restrictions are being eased...........?
Satelliteracer
01-22-09, 11:27 PM
Blackout restrictions are being eased...........?
I didn't say hell was freezing over. ;)
I didn't say hell was freezing over. ;)
!rolling +1 But I do remember reading some where that the MLB was looking at the black outs. However, I don't remember hearing anything more about it after that one story :confused:
!rolling +1 But I do remember reading some where that the MLB was looking at the black outs. However, I don't remember hearing anything more about it after that one story :confused:
I think it was going to be looked at by some committee (MLB owners?). If that is the case, considering the pace at which Selig & Co move we should see some movement on that in 8-10 years, in which case the new rules will be suitable for what the landscape is today and have no relevance to what it will be like in 8-10 years.
Personally, I dig the Game Mix Channel.
Good news SatRacer???
Maybe the "SuperFan" features have been incorporated into the main package and we'll see one (good) price that includes HD? ;):)
I liked the SZC because it was commercial free. I bet MLB Network doesn't do that...
dhhaines
01-23-09, 10:13 AM
I liked the SZC because it was commercial free. I bet MLB Network doesn't do that...
StrikeZone channel is awesome. I don't know how the MLB Network could improve upon it, except to have it on every night up until the last game ends.
Satelliteracer
01-23-09, 10:26 AM
I liked the SZC because it was commercial free. I bet MLB Network doesn't do that...
Strike Zone channel is gone. D* was allowed to do that for a few years prior to MLB Network launching. But that feature, unfortunately, will not continue as MLB Network has the rights to that feature.
iceturkee
01-23-09, 01:21 PM
Strike Zone channel is gone. D* was allowed to do that for a few years prior to MLB Network launching. But that feature, unfortunately, will not continue as MLB Network has the rights to that feature.
so will that mean superfan is cheaper this year or better yet.....free? or are we going to have to wait until monday to fine out?
I think it was going to be looked at by some committee (MLB owners?). If that is the case, considering the pace at which Selig & Co move we should see some movement on that in 8-10 years, in which case the new rules will be suitable for what the landscape is today and have no relevance to what it will be like in 8-10 years.
:rolling: +1 I think you just explained to me why I never heard any more about the story :lol: And you are probably right on the time movement ;) I for one will not miss Strike Zone at all. I never used it.
so will that mean superfan is cheaper this year or better yet.....free? or are we going to have to wait until monday to fine out?
I guess we are going to have to wait until Monday to fine out :( But I think we have been given enough hints to know that it is going to be good :)
Strike Zone channel is gone. D* was allowed to do that for a few years prior to MLB Network launching. But that feature, unfortunately, will not continue as MLB Network has the rights to that feature.Satelliteracer: Does the fact that you post regularly about MLBEI mean that you are a baseball fan? :)
iceturkee
01-23-09, 06:51 PM
Satelliteracer: Does the fact that you post regularly about MLBEI mean that you are a baseball fan? :)
i believe SR is an angels fan if memory serves me correctly!
ziggy29
01-23-09, 07:58 PM
A good rule of thumb is to look back to what it cost last year and add $10.
kryscio23
01-24-09, 04:41 PM
Since the Strike Zone Channel is toast, that really takes out some of the beef of the "SuperFan" package. They should make all of the HD games free if you already subscribe to the HD service ... like NHL Center Ice is. What would be wrong with that? Why pay for the same thing twice? My DTV bill is high enough as it is and I work nights and miss a lot of games!
DodgerKing
01-24-09, 11:42 PM
Looking at my current statement on-line under "activity since last bill", it has both EI and EI HD:
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 HD - Charge $0.00
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 - Charge $0.00
It looks like we will still be paying extra for HD. They no longer call it Superfan though.
iceturkee
01-25-09, 08:20 AM
Looking at my current statement on-line under "activity since last bill", it has both EI and EI HD:
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 HD - Charge $0.00
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 - Charge $0.00
It looks like we will still be paying extra for HD. They no longer call it Superfan though.
not necessarily because i believe my center ice and league pass hd are listed like above. and there's no charge for either. i think it would be listed as mlb extra innings sf or superfan.
DodgerKing
01-25-09, 08:52 AM
not necessarily because i believe my center ice and league pass hd are listed like above. and there's no charge for either. i think it would be listed as mlb extra innings sf or superfan.
This the first year I have seen this listed like this. They might be doing away with SuperFan and simply charging extra for HD access.
DodgerKing
01-25-09, 09:07 AM
Looking back at last year's bill it has EI listed and EI SP listed in January. In February they charged a one time fee of $50 for SP and the automatic renewal payments of EI started in March. Nothing on the any bill stated EI HD.
Satelliteracer
01-25-09, 11:18 AM
Satelliteracer: Does the fact that you post regularly about MLBEI mean that you are a baseball fan? :)
I used to work for Angels back in the day and yes, I do love baseball.
Satelliteracer
01-25-09, 11:20 AM
Looking at my current statement on-line under "activity since last bill", it has both EI and EI HD:
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 HD - Charge $0.00
01/23/2009 MLB EXTRA INNINGS 2009 - Charge $0.00
It looks like we will still be paying extra for HD. They no longer call it Superfan though.
Those are authorization codes only. It tells the system to authorize HD games, that is not indicative of a package
bonscott87
01-25-09, 11:45 AM
If HD games are included in the main price you can bet crying and gnashing of teeth will be great if they still charge the overpriced $99 for NFL Superfan just for HD games. Hopefully the pressure will be on and they will either get a reasonable NFL SF charge (under $50 for sure) or include it.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack...
DodgerKing
01-25-09, 02:46 PM
Those are authorization codes only. It tells the system to authorize HD games, that is not indicative of a package
Thanks
Is it Monday yet? :lol: MLB EI is the only sports ticket I'm interested in and wouldn't you know it seems to be the last one to come in with the prices :rolleyes: Of course, I can hope that is a good sign and not a bad sign :yesman:
Is it Monday yet? :lol: MLB EI is the only sports ticket I'm interested in and wouldn't you know it seems to be the last one to come in with the prices :rolleyes: Of course, I can hope that is a good sign and not a bad sign :yesman:
Pricing tends to be pretty close to the season starting, but you generally have plenty of time to decide if you're going to go with it or not. The only time it was really close was a couple of years back when the package almost went exclusively with DirecTV. Your statement really does confuse me though...the pricing is always in a circular motion and MLB isn't last, it's just the most current. We don't, for example, know how much they plan to charge for Center Ice, or next year's NFL Sunday Ticket...do we?
I used to work for Angels back in the day and yes, I do love baseball.Always good to find a fellow baseball fan. :)
However I've still not recovered from Game 6 of the 2002 World Series. But that isn't the only Game 6 I've not recovered from. I seem to remember 1986 being a difficult year...
DodgerKing
01-25-09, 10:37 PM
Always good to find a fellow baseball fan. :)
However I've still not recovered from Game 6 of the 2002 World Series. But that isn't the only Game 6 I've not recovered from. I seem to remember 1986 being a difficult year...
'86 had the Astros and Mets and the Angels and Sox. I am assuming you are a Giants fan by your game six comment in 2002 and your location. What is it about '86? Unless you are talking about the famous Buckner game; am I to assume you are also a Sox fan?
An Angels fan would have some hard feelings about '86 with the Henderson HR off of Moore in game 5 of the ALCS when they were 1 strike away from going to the WS.
'86 had the Astros and Mets and the Angels and Sox. I am assuming you are a Giants fan by your game six comment in 2002 and your location. What is it about '86? Unless you are talking about the famous Buckner game; am I to assume you are also a Sox fan?
An Angels fan would have some hard feelings about '86 with the Henderson HR off of Moore in game 5 of the ALCS when they were 1 strike away from going to the WS.Yes I was rooting for the Giants in 2002. Blowing that kind of lead in the playoffs is hard to take especially when it costs you a World Series title.
I can see why you might have thought I meant Game 5 Sox vs Angels and Hendu's home run but that was a Game FIVE after all. Yes the Angels were 1 strike away from going to the World Series but that was about winning the AL championship, not the "World" Championship.
And yes Astros fans are probably still in agony about Game 6 of the 1986 playoffs against the Mets. They had a 3-0 lead going into the top of the 9th and were very close to sending it to a game 7. That had to be one of the all time most exciting games with the Astros just about pulling the game out in extra innings.
Well of course the Game 6 in 1986 I was referring to was the infamous Bill Buckner game. How could anything be worse in the history of baseball than being one strike away from winning the World Series, your team's first in 68 years? Of course if you hate the Sox or love the Mets you wouldn't see it that way perhaps but it was painful. Even my wife who couldn't care less about baseball was stunned.
Sorry for my long digression off topic just above. Hopefully everyone here is enough of a baseball fan to understand how another fan can easily get worked up over some of the most exciting games in baseball history.
DMG...I grew up in Watsonville as a Giants' fan. I'm getting the feeling we are pretty close to the feeling of hoplessness that Boston and Chicago fans have carried for a long time. Living in Tucson, I've been able to continue following the Giants, even though there is nothing here that keeps that tie. Between EI and KNBR online, I pretty much feel like I've never left the Bay Area. Kruk and Kuipe seem like family here...
Pricing tends to be pretty close to the season starting, but you generally have plenty of time to decide if you're going to go with it or not. The only time it was really close was a couple of years back when the package almost went exclusively with DirecTV. Your statement really does confuse me though...the pricing is always in a circular motion and MLB isn't last, it's just the most current. We don't, for example, know how much they plan to charge for Center Ice, or next year's NFL Sunday Ticket...do we?
Actually D* does already have an offer up for the NFL Sunday Ticket--10 payments of $27.99 the offer ends in Feb. :rolleyes: How could I have forgotten that it is football that is actually the nation's favorite past time :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
DMG...I grew up in Watsonville as a Giants' fan. I'm getting the feeling we are pretty close to the feeling of hoplessness that Boston and Chicago fans have carried for a long time. Living in Tucson, I've been able to continue following the Giants, even though there is nothing here that keeps that tie. Between EI and KNBR online, I pretty much feel like I've never left the Bay Area. Kruk and Kuipe seem like family here...The world has changed since I left Baltimore in 1979. I had become an Orioles fan while in college and Eddie Murray was the man, but in those days it was really hard to follow them on the West Coast. There were two games a week televised nationally and rarely was one of them the Orioles.
Today with the internet for a team located out of your area you can read the local paper, listen to the local radio broadcasts, and with DirecTV watch virtually every game. If it weren't for the #!#$ blackout rules, you could probably watch every game. Strangely you'll see more games of the team you follow from a distance than the teams that are in your local area.
No question that for a baseball fan in 2009 the ability to follow your favorite team is fantastic, even if they aren't the Yankees!
Is it Monday yet? :lol: MLB EI is the only sports ticket I'm interested in and wouldn't you know it seems to be the last one to come in with the prices :rolleyes: Of course, I can hope that is a good sign and not a bad sign :yesman:
and not only that it looks like, regardless of all the bit ching that we do on this forum, they are going ahead YET AGAIN with that stupid Superfan to get HD games...looks like ill be calling again to try and get it for free...dial....dial...dial...dial...
tecumseh
01-26-09, 04:45 PM
I guess I've just been really fortunate, because I've never had to pay for the superfan for either the NFL OR MLB in any year it's been offered. I've also never had to speak to more than 1 representative in order to do so. I feel badly for those of you who've had to make multiple call or, worse, were unable to ever secure it. Keeping my fingers crossed for '09. Now if my damned Dodgers would just get Manny signed...:mad:
Steve615
01-26-09, 05:23 PM
Still no change in the status of the package on DirecTV's site at this time.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3180002&footernavtype=-1
whats funny is, my online account for this upcoming bill shows MLBEI 0.00 and MLBEI HD 0.00, but no superfan...maybe theyll actually throw in HD this year?? hahahahahahaha..sorry almost lost my head for a second there...
Satelliteracer
01-26-09, 07:02 PM
Always good to find a fellow baseball fan. :)
However I've still not recovered from Game 6 of the 2002 World Series. But that isn't the only Game 6 I've not recovered from. I seem to remember 1986 being a difficult year...
I was at game 6 and 7 in 2002, what a blast. 1986, not so much.
Satelliteracer
01-26-09, 07:04 PM
Still no change in the status of the package on DirecTV's site at this time.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3180002&footernavtype=-1
Things are happening fast and furious with MLB right now....something should come in a few days.
Steve615
01-26-09, 07:09 PM
Things are happening fast and furious with MLB right now....something should come in a few days.
Thanks for the update Satelliteracer. :)
DodgerKing
01-26-09, 07:43 PM
Things are happening fast and furious with MLB right now....something should come in a few days.
Do you know and can you tell us if they are still charging extra for the HD feed? Will SP still exist?
wilbur_the_goose
01-26-09, 09:23 PM
I really hope it comes in at a good price. My baseball-crazed wife was laid off, and my company is cutting pay by about 20%. Unfortunately, that's not that unusual these days.
Combined with the loss of Strike Zone channel and the continued lack of Phillies game availability in SE Pennsylvania, I may need to opt out.
I was at game 6 and 7 in 2002, what a blast. 1986, not so much.
Did you keep a rally monkey or thunderstick as a souveneir? I was carving pumpkins during the ill-fated game 6. I was on the road between Phoenix and Las Vegas during game 7.
There's something about the Giants and World Series that just doesn't seem to work. I spent most of the '89 World Series working. At that time, I lived in the Bay Area and spent most of my time cleaning up after the earthquake.
Things are happening fast and furious with MLB right now....something should come in a few days.
It really is Monday now. In fact it is closer to Tuesday morning and we still don't know anything :icon_cry:
whats funny is, my online account for this upcoming bill shows MLBEI 0.00 and MLBEI HD 0.00, but no superfan...maybe theyll actually throw in HD this year?? hahahahahahaha..sorry almost lost my head for a second there...
I haven't looked at my online account, but when I go to my setup it says I don't have any Sports Subs :confused:
I don't guess D* took the MLB EI away from me :eek2: I should be on auto renewal for MLB EI :rolleyes:
DCSholtis
01-27-09, 12:56 AM
Things are happening fast and furious with MLB right now....something should come in a few days.
Hmmmmm putting the Non-FOX Saturday Afternoon games on EI, include the Fox regional games in the package, include more OTA and OTA HD feeds. Welp there's my list pass em onto Bud will ya. :D
iceturkee
01-27-09, 05:57 AM
+1
Satelliteracer
01-27-09, 09:37 AM
Hmmmmm putting the Non-FOX Saturday Afternoon games on EI, include the Fox regional games in the package, include more OTA and OTA HD feeds. Welp there's my list pass em onto Bud will ya. :D
Not going to happen :(
Buster1022
01-27-09, 11:08 AM
Why no OTA feeds? NBA and NHL packages uses them. In Demand, last season also used WPIX (Mets), KTVD (Rockies), WWOR (Yankees), and WKYC (Indians) on their version of Extra Innings.
DodgerKing
01-27-09, 11:12 AM
Why no OTA feeds? NBA and NHL packages uses them. In Demand, last season also used WPIX (Mets), KTVD (Rockies), WWOR (Yankees), and WKYC (Indians) on their version of Extra Innings.
There are. I have seen games from network feeds on EI. I remember seeing a My9 game from one of the NY teams (I don't remember which one).
ziggy29
01-27-09, 11:18 AM
There are. I have seen games from network feeds on EI. I remember seeing a My9 game from one of the NY teams (I don't remember which one).
Some Padres games were OTA as well, as I recall.
schlar01
01-27-09, 11:35 AM
If HD games are included in the main price you can bet crying and gnashing of teeth will be great if they still charge the overpriced $99 for NFL Superfan just for HD games. Hopefully the pressure will be on and they will either get a reasonable NFL SF charge (under $50 for sure) or include it.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack...
I HIGHLY doubt that MLB EI will include HD games. DirecTV has become a blood sucking company that charges obscene prices for everything. My bill for 3 receivers and a pretty normal package now is approaching $100 just for TV! Then the EI and ST packages are jacked up every year, plus ridiculous HD surcharges.
I'm getting real sick of it and I'm probably done with DirecTV when my contract expires.
Satelliteracer
01-27-09, 11:52 AM
I HIGHLY doubt that MLB EI will include HD games. DirecTV has become a blood sucking company that charges obscene prices for everything. My bill for 3 receivers and a pretty normal package now is approaching $100 just for TV! Then the EI and ST packages are jacked up every year, plus ridiculous HD surcharges.
I'm getting real sick of it and I'm probably done with DirecTV when my contract expires.
That's because the amount of money owed to the NFL and MLB is "jacked up every year" and those costs are passed down like they are with every business out there.
As for your first sentence, well we'll see.
Satelliteracer
01-27-09, 11:53 AM
Why no OTA feeds? NBA and NHL packages uses them. In Demand, last season also used WPIX (Mets), KTVD (Rockies), WWOR (Yankees), and WKYC (Indians) on their version of Extra Innings.
I was referencing the FOX blackout games. As for OTA, all those cost extra dollars in terms of contracts, etc. On one hand we have folks like the gentleman from Wisconsin above concerned about prices and other folks wanting OTA games (which means separate deals with each of those networks).
That's the challenge.
DCSholtis
01-27-09, 12:09 PM
That's cool as long as we still have the My9 Yankees feeds, the SD 4 Padres feeds, the CSN Philly feeds and the Canadian feeds in HD. I'm fine with it. BTW any idea if/when we get STO 24/7? (Yes I know I keep asking hoping one day it will happen. :D).
DCSholtis
01-27-09, 12:10 PM
Why no OTA feeds? NBA and NHL packages uses them. In Demand, last season also used WPIX (Mets), KTVD (Rockies), WWOR (Yankees), and WKYC (Indians) on their version of Extra Innings.
Directv used the My9 HD feeds for the Yankees as well.
Some Padres games were OTA as well, as I recall.
Cox 4 is a cable only channel that has exclusive rights to the Pads. There are no OTA games available.
BlueGuy
01-27-09, 03:11 PM
I HIGHLY doubt that MLB EI will include HD games. DirecTV has become a blood sucking company that charges obscene prices for everything. My bill for 3 receivers and a pretty normal package now is approaching $100 just for TV! Then the EI and ST packages are jacked up every year, plus ridiculous HD surcharges.
I'm getting real sick of it and I'm probably done with DirecTV when my contract expires.
Just curious, if you are going to drop D* at the end of the contract, why not do it now? If the monthly charges are so outrageous wouldn't you be better off dropping it today even with paying an early termination charge? Just trying to help you.
schlar01
01-27-09, 04:18 PM
That's because the amount of money owed to the NFL and MLB is "jacked up every year" and those costs are passed down like they are with every business out there.
As for your first sentence, well we'll see.
Well, that is partly the fault of D* because they pay through the nose to keep an exclusive license, which drives up costs for everyone. If they were not afraid of competition it would help us all as consumers.
schlar01
01-27-09, 04:19 PM
Just curious, if you are going to drop D* at the end of the contract, why not do it now? If the monthly charges are so outrageous wouldn't you be better off dropping it today even with paying an early termination charge? Just trying to help you.
Trying to break the contract would cost me a bunch of money, too. Its not that I hate the service but its getting ridiculously expensive, especially is they raise rates again this year. Paying to get out of my contract is hardly going to help the situation.
Well, that is partly the fault of D* because they pay through the nose to keep an exclusive license, which drives up costs for everyone. If they were not afraid of competition it would help us all as consumers.
Then can you explain ESPN? ESPN is hardly exclusive and yet they raise their prices every time the contract is up for renewal.
bonscott87
01-28-09, 10:12 AM
Then can you explain ESPN? ESPN is hardly exclusive and yet they raise their prices every time the contract is up for renewal.
Plus the fact MLB isn't exclusive either. :)
davidatl14
01-28-09, 10:14 AM
Well, that is partly the fault of D* because they pay through the nose to keep an exclusive license, which drives up costs for everyone. If they were not afraid of competition it would help us all as consumers.
Amazing that this level of lack of understanding still exists in these forums anyway.
Would be expected in the GenPop but not here.
schlar01
01-28-09, 01:09 PM
Amazing that this level of lack of understanding still exists in these forums anyway.
Would be expected in the GenPop but not here.
You are crazy if you don't think the NFL ST is more expensive because it is only on D*. If it were open to all providers consumers could get a much better deal on it.
dhhaines
01-28-09, 01:57 PM
You are crazy if you don't think the NFL ST is more expensive because it is only on D*. If it were open to all providers consumers could get a much better deal on it.
Just curious... what other carrier do you think would be able to carry every game every Sunday.. ??
bonscott87
01-28-09, 02:00 PM
You are crazy if you don't think the NFL ST is more expensive because it is only on D*. If it were open to all providers consumers could get a much better deal on it.
We've already had this discussion before. Sunday Ticket is only 80 bucks or so more then MLB (and is 10 times more popular, they *can* charge more).
MLB is on cable and DirecTV. NHL and NBA are on cable, DirecTV and Dish. They are all the same price across providers and it goes up every year. To think Sunday Ticket will suddenly become cheaper if it goes to cable is really a fantasy. Best we can hope for if it goes to cable and DirecTV would be a freeze on prices that year and then it will keep on going up every year just like all the others. You think cable doesn't want to charge those prices? Of course they do. And the NFL isn't anything but a company that knows how to make money.
But anyway, take this to the long NFL ST thread from a few weeks ago and let's not get too far off topic in this thread.
russdog
01-28-09, 03:10 PM
To think Sunday Ticket will suddenly become cheaper if it goes to cable is really a fantasy.
You don't think D* pays a ton more because it's an exclusive?
If they pay a ton more, you don't think that impacts the price they charge?
Could we please forget the NFL in this thread about MLB? And when in the world are we going to get the word on the price of MLB :rolleyes: We first got the word it would be Monday, but now it is Wednesday and we still haven't gotten a price. It is almost Feb. now--please lets have the price known :angel:
russdog
01-28-09, 04:45 PM
Could we please forget the NFL in this thread about MLB?
Good point. Sorry.
Good point. Sorry.
How nice of you to say "sorry" :) You will have to pardon me, but I really want the MLB Ticket. However, I'm on a fixed income so I would really like to know the price so I can tell if I can budget for it. And the longer D* waits to give the price the less time I will have to tell if I can get
the Ticket again this year. I made it budget wise last year, but the economy has gotten much worse since
then :(
I don't recall an increase greater than $20 for a season. Over the course of a 4 month auto-pay, that's $5.00/month. If that type of increase would be the breaking point of $179 package, I wouldn't be considering the $179 at all. Have you considered MLB.TV? The PQ is getting pretty decent, but watching on a PC isn't very convenient for many...
oscar madison
01-28-09, 07:21 PM
I'm dying for a Satellite Racer announcement!
leww37334
01-29-09, 08:11 AM
I am signed up for MLB extra innings and MLB extra innings HD, as of 23 Jan, per the web site. But I still don't know what I am getting or how much it costs. Just a little information would be nice.....
BlueGuy
01-29-09, 09:54 AM
Trying to break the contract would cost me a bunch of money, too. Its not that I hate the service but its getting ridiculously expensive, especially is they raise rates again this year. Paying to get out of my contract is hardly going to help the situation.
If D* is ridiculously expensive to you never hesitate to spend some money upfront (to terminate a contract) if it will save you money down the road. Go with someone who isn't ridiculously expensive and save money in the process, its easy!!!
I just got off the phone with a CSR (doing some other business). When I asked about EI she told me that there was no pricing available yet. I would like know also, but since there are over two months before baseball season starts I guess I can be patient for a bit longer.
I am signed up for MLB extra innings and MLB extra innings HD, as of 23 Jan, per the web site. But I still don't know what I am getting or how much it costs. Just a little information would be nice.....
you didnt "sign up for it". you probably had it last year so it just autorenewed you as a current subscriber. I think its a good sign that they added HD but didnt add Superfan. maybe we wont need that stupid package to get the HD games.
giantsox
01-29-09, 04:34 PM
I used to work for Angels back in the day and yes, I do love baseball.
Back in the day meaning Bobby Grich, Brian Downing, Devon White??
Satelliteracer
01-29-09, 06:33 PM
I'm dying for a Satellite Racer announcement!
Nothing yet, still waiting on MLB to finalize. Hopefully tomorrow.
Nothing yet, still waiting on MLB to finalize. Hopefully tomorrow.
"Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I Love You Tomorrow you're only a day away". Thankfully no one can hear me sing ;) But this is beginning to remind me of D*'s favorite word--"Soon" :(
dhhaines
01-29-09, 07:45 PM
"Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I Love You Tomorrow you're only a day away". Thankfully no one can hear me sing ;) But this is beginning to remind me of D*'s favorite word--"Soon" :(
well ... the season doesn't start until April 5th this year, so there's 2 months before any panic should set in.:)
oscar madison
01-29-09, 08:09 PM
well ... the season doesn't start until April 5th this year, so there's 2 months before any panic should set in.:)
It's not panic, it's that my interest was tweaked by Satracer and he always comes thru! Pitchers and catchers in Feb. Yea!!!
dhhaines
01-29-09, 08:19 PM
It's not panic, it's that my interest was tweaked by Satracer and he always comes thru! Pitchers and catchers in Feb. Yea!!!
And the WBC on MLB Network ! :)
It's not panic, it's that my interest was tweaked by Satracer and he always comes thru! Pitchers and catchers in Feb. Yea!!!+1
Satelliteracer
01-30-09, 02:11 PM
The price will be $179 for renewal, up $10 from last year.
$189 for early bird, up $10 from last year
SuperFan is gone....HD game will be included in MLB EI as part of the MLB package as long as you have HD Access.
So the net is that many of you who had MLB and SuperFan last year are actually receiving a price DECREASE.
Now, before someone starts saying why don't they do this with NFL, well there are several differences. One of the reasons SuperFan is gone for MLB is because the StrkeZone channel is no longer there, MLB Network has the rights to that program. Also, as of right now Mix Channel is up in the air....still pending some MLB approval on that. As a result, SuperFan really doesn't exist anymore so HD was rolled into it.
On the NFL front, RedZone, Mix, Short Cuts, SuperCast, Mobile Highlights, and HD are all included in SuperFan for NFL.
Thanks! I do hope the mix channel will be available for next season. I was actually hoping to see it formatted for HD. I will enjoy the price break though.
Ice Runner
01-30-09, 02:15 PM
Sounds like a good deal. Thanks! Will I automatically be renewed or do I need to take some sort of action?
Satelliteracer
01-30-09, 02:17 PM
Sounds like a good deal. Thanks! Will I automatically be renewed or do I need to take some sort of action?
You should be automatically renewed. Check your bill online or when it arrives in the mail, it should say MLB at a $0 price point. I believe in March is when the first installment will hit.
Any word on if there has been movement on the blackout front? Bud Selig had talked about this being worked on during the off season.
dhhaines
01-30-09, 02:33 PM
Excellent news on the pricing. HD is included!!!! woohoo
Could be bad news on the mix channel though, but overall we're saving the $50 they charged for the HD. Not bad.
bonscott87
01-30-09, 02:40 PM
On the NFL front, RedZone, Mix, Short Cuts, SuperCast, Mobile Highlights, and HD are all included in SuperFan for NFL.
My only comment is that most of us could care less about all of these features and just want HD games. What would be best is if all this stuff would be extra and HD games were not. Or maybe HD games a slight upcharge and a bigger upcharge for all the other stuff.
miketorse
01-30-09, 02:54 PM
I like it, no complaints about MLBEI this year. I didn't personally watch the StrikeZone or the Game Mix channels anyway. All I want is the Red Sox on NESNHD, and this year, I get it cheaper!
miketorse
01-30-09, 02:54 PM
This should probably be a headline, no?
bcherry
01-30-09, 03:23 PM
A nice surprise to see a $50 savings with MLB Superfan going away. I personally didn't use the Strike Zone channel. The Mix Channel in principle wasn't bad but SD was hard to watch. If the Mix Channel comes back in HD as part of the standard package then that would be great but I can live without it.
schlar01
01-30-09, 03:35 PM
The price will be $179 for renewal, up $10 from last year.
$189 for early bird, up $10 from last year
SuperFan is gone....HD game will be included in MLB EI as part of the MLB package as long as you have HD Access.
So the net is that many of you who had MLB and SuperFan last year are actually receiving a price DECREASE.
Now, before someone starts saying why don't they do this with NFL, well there are several differences. One of the reasons SuperFan is gone for MLB is because the StrkeZone channel is no longer there, MLB Network has the rights to that program. Also, as of right now Mix Channel is up in the air....still pending some MLB approval on that. As a result, SuperFan really doesn't exist anymore so HD was rolled into it.
On the NFL front, RedZone, Mix, Short Cuts, SuperCast, Mobile Highlights, and HD are all included in SuperFan for NFL.
Thanks for the info. Not to be a jerk but we are only seeing a 'decrease' because we were overcharged last year. I suspect D* had so many people complain about paying for HD that they decided it wasn't worth making 90% of their premium package customers angry.
thestaton
01-30-09, 03:38 PM
excellent. going to order this asap!
ziggy29
01-30-09, 03:52 PM
Nice to see they aren't going to double-dip for HD this year. I was thinking about canceling this year, but if this base price includes all the HD for those who already pay the HD access fee, then perhaps I'll reconsider.
I liked SZC a lot and I'll miss it. I know MLBN is going to do some of it now, but it'll probably have commercials when SZC didn't. (In fact, that was one of the main reasons why I often kept it tuned to SZC.)
davidatl14
01-30-09, 04:00 PM
Great news.
Thanks for the heads up and explanation Satracer.
For the record I think most patrons of MLB EI will be thrilled.:)
Of course there are always a few of the (schlar01 ilk) that are disillusioned constantly and think they should receive the 2009 package at 1997 Prices, I guess this would constitute a fair price in their minds.:nono2:
isuquinndog
01-30-09, 04:04 PM
So are these prices broken over 4 months?
Thanks as always Satracer :) But please let us know about game mix as soon as possible. I love this feature and I hope D* can keep doing it.
russdog
01-30-09, 05:36 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/rshackelford/happypig.jpg
I think the price was very reasonable :) In fact it was so reasonable that I personally would be willing to pay extra to get the game mix :yesman:
Question for all those in the know: Does the HD span more than 1 or 2 games a night? I had MLBEI on cable last year and there was one channel - GAMEHD - that showed HD games. You'd get one or two a night (7 PM and 10 PM ET). I'm assuming there's a broader selection here?
Question for all those in the know: Does the HD span more than 1 or 2 games a night? I had MLBEI on cable last year and there was one channel - GAMEHD - that showed HD games. You'd get one or two a night (7 PM and 10 PM ET). I'm assuming there's a broader selection here?
Well I don't work for D*, but I had the Ticket last year and there were definitely more than 1 or 2 HD games a night :) I hope Satracer doesn't get in trouble for giving us a price because the information isn't on D*'s website yet :eek2:
DodgerKing
01-30-09, 07:24 PM
Question for all those in the know: Does the HD span more than 1 or 2 games a night? I had MLBEI on cable last year and there was one channel - GAMEHD - that showed HD games. You'd get one or two a night (7 PM and 10 PM ET). I'm assuming there's a broader selection here?
Oh yeah. There were way over 10 HD games every night/day in EI on Direct
DodgerKing
01-30-09, 07:26 PM
Let's see. $10 increase for EI - $50 for SF = $40 savings for me this year. Can't complain about that.
akw4572
01-30-09, 08:22 PM
If I just had regular MLB EI last year, but now I have HD receivers, will the HD automatically be included, or do I need to do something special? Right now on my bill, it just says MLB EI, and $0, nothing about HD.
Oh yeah. There were way over 10 HD games every night/day in EI on Direct
Well I don't work for D*, but I had the Ticket last year and there were definitely more than 1 or 2 HD games a night :) I hope Satracer doesn't get in trouble for giving us a price because the information isn't on D*'s website yet :eek2:
Awesome - thanks. I might just sign up for it this year. Considering I paid $170 for it last year, it looks like I'll get more for my money this time around.
Hey - does the renewal price only apply to people who have EI year over year with DirecTV or do you think I could get a renewal price because I had it with cable? Anyone else tried that before?
If I just had regular MLB EI last year, but now I have HD receivers, will the HD automatically be included, or do I need to do something special? Right now on my bill, it just says MLB EI, and $0, nothing about HD.
As long as you have HD access, it sounds like you're gonna get it. Of course, I'll defer to Satracer et al.
oscar madison
01-30-09, 09:57 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/rshackelford/happypig.jpg
Just got HD access a month ago so I'm stoked! Thanks for the info!
SuperFan is gone....HD game will be included in MLB EI as part of the MLB package as long as you have HD Access.
Very cool - I'm scared to ask, but do we know yet if Direct will be providing dual feeds again this year? even with the Superfan add on last year, the dual feeds made it worth it. A great package.
Awesome - thanks. I might just sign up for it this year. Considering I paid $170 for it last year, it looks like I'll get more for my money this time around.
Hey - does the renewal price only apply to people who have EI year over year with DirecTV or do you think I could get a renewal price because I had it with cable? Anyone else tried that before?
It is my understanding that the auto renewal only applies to people that had the MLB EI Ticket with D*.
Satelliteracer
01-31-09, 11:01 AM
It is my understanding that the auto renewal only applies to people that had the MLB EI Ticket with D*.
Correct
Question for all those in the know: Does the HD span more than 1 or 2 games a night? I had MLBEI on cable last year and there was one channel - GAMEHD - that showed HD games. You'd get one or two a night (7 PM and 10 PM ET). I'm assuming there's a broader selection here?
That's one of the big advantages that DirecTV inherently has. Since they broadcast the HD version of nearly all RSNs, they already have the feed available to them. They also have the "bandwidth" available to them to distribute it nation wide. For cable, they would have to add the infrastructure to receive the HD feeds, then they would also need the infrasturcture added to send it out. This, along with cable's unbelieveable charges for HD/DVR equipment, is why I don't even bother shopping around for other services.
MLB EI still isn't up on D*'s website :confused: Is this because the issue about game mix has not been decided yet?
Last year there was a large increase in the number of HD games available and the dual feeds were great. I've got two questions:
1. Are we getting dual feeds again?
2. Are there going to be even more games in HD? It was great last year with so many games in HD but when you got stuck with SD for a game you really suffered, comparatively speaking.
Of course DirecTV can't show HD games if the affiliates don't actually shoot them in HD. So of course the question really becomes, are more HD games expected to be produced and if so, will DirecTV broadcast them?
Satelliteracer
02-01-09, 11:22 AM
MLB Extra Innings is on sale beginning today if you call. It will not be available to order online for some time.
I would just call 1-800-GET-SPORTS
The poster who asked about Dual Feeds, yes we're still a go there. Yes, there will be even more games in HD this year.
Steve615
02-01-09, 11:33 AM
Thanks much for the update Satelliteracer. :)
I bet cable charges at least $199 again this year, and still only offers one HD channel. Every April I'm reminded why I'm so happy I made the switch :)
Ice Runner
02-01-09, 01:22 PM
EI is the reason I switched from Dish to DirecTV.
MLB Extra Innings is on sale beginning today if you call. It will not be available to order online for some time.
I would just call 1-800-GET-SPORTS
The poster who asked about Dual Feeds, yes we're still a go there. Yes, there will be even more games in HD this year.
Thanks as always for the information :sunsmile: Earlier you had said we would still have the game mix, but I'm wondering since there is no longer SuperFan if indeed we still do have the game mix? That is one reason I wanted to see the information on D*'s website. But since it can't be ordered online yet I don't guess there will be any information about it on the website until you can order it.
It doesn't look good for game mix right now. Could change, but that's what we're hearing.
Oh no :( The game mix is what made The Ticket A Ticket as far as I'm concerned. It was a special feature that I very much enjoyed having. Well I could always save the money and just skip the MLB EI--D* just may be helping my budget ;)
How nice of you to say "sorry" :) You will have to pardon me, but I really want the MLB Ticket. However, I'm on a fixed income so I would really like to know the price so I can tell if I can budget for it. And the longer D* waits to give the price the less time I will have to tell if I can get
the Ticket again this year. I made it budget wise last year, but the economy has gotten much worse since
then :(
Oh no :( The game mix is what made The Ticket A Ticket as far as I'm concerned. It was a special feature that I very much enjoyed having. Well I could always save the money and just skip the MLB EI--D* just may be helping my budget ;)
You are so difficult to read. Where you should be ecstatic that, in this economy, you are going to save a few bucks, you instead decide that you'd rather complain that you won't get the same features for less money. There will be more HD and, possibly, no game mix. You have internet access, so look at the scores on your computer and be happy. Instead, you have to criticize every move they make. Try buying the cable package and recieve 1 or 2 HD feeds a night at the same price...
You, alone, are a terrific example of ... my prices keep climbing and ... I want more...
You are so difficult to read. Where you should be ecstatic that, in this economy, you are going to save a few bucks, you instead decide that you'd rather complain that you won't get the same features for less money. There will be more HD and, possibly, no game mix. You have internet access, so look at the scores on your computer and be happy. Instead, you have to criticize every move they make. Try buying the cable package and recieve 1 or 2 HD feeds a night at the same price...
You, alone, are a terrific example of ... my prices keep climbing and ... I want more...
It would be nice if you didn't make an assumption about some thing you know nothing about. I do NOT have internet access on a computer because I DON'T have a computer. I have what is called an MSNTV2. You probably don't know what that is because most people don't. But the MSNTV2 is limited in what you can do on it. I would be more than willing to pay D* more money for the game mix. But if they aren't offering the game mix I can't give them any money for it. So why should I pay D* when they aren't apparently going to give me what I want? Do you give money to companies that don't provide you what you want? And if I wanted to be a cable customer I would not be going on my 14th year with D*. I pay D* when they are giving me what I want and believe me since D* has a lot of what I want they get a lot of my money. But I am the one that decides what I will give D* money for and what I won't give D* money for.
with mlb network carrying something similar it really isn't such a big deal if extra innings doesn't have gamemix is it?
dbsdave
02-02-09, 10:09 AM
with mlb network carrying something similar it really isn't such a big deal if extra innings doesn't have gamemix is it?
Hopefully but it won't autotune to the channel so you can watch it in fullscreen.
Gamemix was an essential feature for me, so the superfan being included for the same price and losing this balances the excitement for me. They really need to have some sort of connection between live scores at least and the right channel to tune to. It's a nightmare browsing all the game channels, especially when you want to catch the dramatic ending to a game.
maybe i'm mixed up here, was gamemix the one that had several games on the screen at once? i kind of forgot about that channel, i was thinking of the ch. that would switch from game to game when something important might happen.
dbsdave
02-02-09, 01:04 PM
Gamemix has many of the current games on the package in small squares with scores where you can move the cursor and it tunes on each game in the selected window.
Strike zone is the thing where they have the narrator take you to various games one at a time fullscreen live, but I think it only happened like 3 nights a week last year.
Another thing I am waiting to hear about is the MLB Blackout situation. Bud Selig "Promised to remedy" that going on 2 years ago now. Has anyone ever heard anymore about that situation and will MLB Finally end the blackouts and game availability issue? They also need to do something about trying to include all of the FOX Saturday Afternoon Games into the MLB Extra Innings Package.
Good news for me trying to save pennies here and there. All I want it the HD games. As other state, tons of info available on the internet. Don't even mind the $10 increase as long as it includes all the HD games.
I also second the requests for a MLB look at the blackout rules on subscription packages.
The blackout rules are in place so that you are forced to watch your local FOX affiliate's advertisers.
Don't hold your breath on that changing, it devalues FOX's offering too much.
DodgerKing
02-02-09, 06:36 PM
Satracer, any word on when Directs website with info on EI will be updated?
Hopefully but it won't autotune to the channel so you can watch it in fullscreen.
Gamemix was an essential feature for me, so the superfan being included for the same price and losing this balances the excitement for me. They really need to have some sort of connection between live scores at least and the right channel to tune to. It's a nightmare browsing all the game channels, especially when you want to catch the dramatic ending to a game.From reading about Gamemix prior to experiencing it, I wasn't that excited about it. But once I started using it I really liked it. If you weren't partial to a particular game right then it was fun and easy to switch between games that had interesting things happening in them.
I hope it comes back!
nyzorro99
02-02-09, 08:46 PM
Another thing I am waiting to hear about is the MLB Blackout situation. Bud Selig "Promised to remedy" that going on 2 years ago now. Has anyone ever heard anymore about that situation and will MLB Finally end the blackouts and game availability issue? They also need to do something about trying to include all of the FOX Saturday Afternoon Games into the MLB Extra Innings Package.
I'm with you on this,I just moved from NY to NC and will be missing my Yankees on Saturdays....
Hopefully but it won't autotune to the channel so you can watch it in fullscreen.
Gamemix was an essential feature for me, so the superfan being included for the same price and losing this balances the excitement for me. They really need to have some sort of connection between live scores at least and the right channel to tune to. It's a nightmare browsing all the game channels, especially when you want to catch the dramatic ending to a game.
At last a poster who understands not only what I want, but also why I want it :sunsmile: I don't think the MLB can possibly offer anything like D*'s game mix so I don't understand why they won't let D* carry the game mix :confused: If it is the MLB's fault that D* can't carry the game mix, I won't blame D* I'll blame the MLB. But that makes it a no win situation for not only D* who I still won't be giving money to because I don't want the MLB EI without the game mix and I will not be a supporter of the MLB if this is their fault. I haven't followed basketball for years and years. As of late I really haven't been following the NFL or Hockey either. So I can drop the MLB as well.
saleen351
02-02-09, 10:54 PM
All I want is YES with every Yankee game. I'm willing to spend 500 bucks for it. The baseball package has so many blackouts I stopped getting it 2 years ago.. When will they learn. By allowing us to watch our favorite teams we pay more attention to our local teams.. Worked for the NFL...
All I want is YES with every Yankee game. I'm willing to spend 500 bucks for it. The baseball package has so many blackouts I stopped getting it 2 years ago.. When will they learn. By allowing us to watch our favorite teams we pay more attention to our local teams.. Worked for the NFL...
I don't understand why George with his love of money--both the making and spending of it--won't let YES be seen by more people :confused: However, may be George isn't in control of who can or can't see YES--as hard as it is to think of George as not being in control :rolleyes:
All I want is YES with every Yankee game. I'm willing to spend 500 bucks for it. The baseball package has so many blackouts I stopped getting it 2 years ago.. When will they learn. By allowing us to watch our favorite teams we pay more attention to our local teams.. Worked for the NFL...
Assuming you live in the Rays DMA the only time you'd be blacked out from the Yankee feed is when they play the Rays, or if they were playing on Saturday afternoon and it wasn’t your local FOX affiliate's game? What other blackouts are you referring to?
Gooser711
02-02-09, 11:52 PM
Does anyone know the Atlanta Braves situation this year? # games on Sports South versus Peachtree, etc and whether Peachtree is in HD yet? I'm trying to figure out how many HD Braves games I could expect if I renew, thanks. I don't mind watching the away team channels either so dual feeds would be nice. If I could get about 60% of their games in HD I think I'll renew...
colebert
02-03-09, 08:44 AM
The Peachtree games were in HD last year... but not on D* (or at least for out-of-market folks.) Not sure if people in Peachtree's DMA got the channel in HD on D*.
saleen351
02-03-09, 05:07 PM
Assuming you live in the Rays DMA the only time you'd be blacked out from the Yankee feed is when they play the Rays, or if they were playing on Saturday afternoon and it wasn’t your local FOX affiliate's game? What other blackouts are you referring to?
Local teams control the blackouts... My buddy is a big wig at FSN/Sun Sports... I complain to him all the time his Marlins are ruining my Yankee games... They black out a good 20% of the games a season.. Yanks have zero control over this..
Local teams control the blackouts... My buddy is a big wig at FSN/Sun Sports... I complain to him all the time his Marlins are ruining my Yankee games... They black out a good 20% of the games a season.. Yanks have zero control over this..
So the Marlins of the National League impose a black out of 20 percent of the American League Yankees and no other team for Extra Innings customers?
Interesting. Have you ever contacted the Marlins and asked them why they do this?
I only question it because it seems odd, and I really don’t understand it. Maybe the next time you see your big wig buddy ask him why If a local market team has the right to blackout - out of market Sports Subscription broadcasts, then why don’t they just black them all out? Obviously there is no benefit to the team, other than whatever cut they may get from Extra Innings thing itself? How could Sports Subscriptions even exist if teams can blackout game feeds that they are not a part of? I don’t get it.
cariera
02-04-09, 05:40 PM
I really don't think an RSN is blacking out 20% of the Yankees games on MLBEI during the season.
The Yankees played about 18 Saturday games in 2008, starting before 7pm Eastern. Meaning they would be carried on the local Fox station or not at all. Nothing to do with the RSN or MLBEI.
Also the RSN would show the Rays vs. Yankees games probably, and thus they would be blacked out on MLBEI (18 games).
So with Saturdays and RSN carriage, we can get to about 22% (36/162).:)
Boynton Beach Jets
02-04-09, 08:28 PM
Local teams control the blackouts... My buddy is a big wig at FSN/Sun Sports... I complain to him all the time his Marlins are ruining my Yankee games... They black out a good 20% of the games a season.. Yanks have zero control over this..
The only time I recall the Yanks getting blacked out is either on Saturday afternoon games or when they play the Rays.
It would be nice if you didn't make an assumption about some thing you know nothing about. I do NOT have internet access on a computer because I DON'T have a computer. I have what is called an MSNTV2. You probably don't know what that is because most people don't. But the MSNTV2 is limited in what you can do on it. I would be more than willing to pay D* more money for the game mix. But if they aren't offering the game mix I can't give them any money for it. So why should I pay D* when they aren't apparently going to give me what I want? Do you give money to companies that don't provide you what you want? And if I wanted to be a cable customer I would not be going on my 14th year with D*. I pay D* when they are giving me what I want and believe me since D* has a lot of what I want they get a lot of my money. But I am the one that decides what I will give D* money for and what I won't give D* money for.
It's been quite some time since I fired up my MSN TV box, but the last time I did, I had access from the MSN TV homepage to MSN-provided scores, stats, summaries and even some really crude video highlights.
Which is exactly what anyone using a PC gets as a bonus with the MLBEI package: nada.
Heck, you have the added ability to get that info on the same screen where you're watching your games, so you're actually one-up on the PC crowd!
If you want to give up on EI out of perceived victim status, that's your call. But the person victimizing you will be you.
It's been quite some time since I fired up my MSN TV box, but the last time I did, I had access from the MSN TV homepage to MSN-provided scores, stats, summaries and even some really crude video highlights.
Which is exactly what anyone using a PC gets as a bonus with the MLBEI package: nada.
Heck, you have the added ability to get that info on the same screen where you're watching your games, so you're actually one-up on the PC crowd!
If you want to give up on EI out of perceived victim status, that's your call. But the person victimizing you will be you.
I don't know when you last fired up your MSNTV2 box, but it must have been a while because it is NOT possible to watch TV and use the MSNTV2 at the same time. Also since I'm on dial up it is very rare that I can see any video of anything. I can also get scores from the TV, radio, and newspapers so I fail to see the point of your post. I know what I want and I will pay for what I want, but I won't pay for something that is not what I want.
bwaldron
02-05-09, 10:36 AM
Restructuring of MLB Blackout Policy Becoming More Remote (http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2929:restructuring-of-mlb-blackout-policy-becoming-more-remote&catid=48:ei-mlb-network&Itemid=82)
Business as usual with the MLB owners.
blackhawkzone
02-05-09, 11:35 AM
Restructuring of MLB Blackout Policy Becoming More Remote (http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2929:restructuring-of-mlb-blackout-policy-becoming-more-remote&catid=48:ei-mlb-network&Itemid=82)
Business as usual with the MLB owners.
you should guys should look into getting a canadian dish (Bell). There are zero blackouts on their extra innings package. No dual feeds and only 4 feeds of HD, but it is better than nothing i suppose.
I have a canadian dish but dont have the mlb package. I used to but decided to spend last summer outside on my deck.
bwaldron
02-05-09, 12:01 PM
you should guys should look into getting a canadian dish (Bell). There are zero blackouts on their extra innings package. No dual feeds and only 4 feeds of HD, but it is better than nothing i suppose.
I have a canadian dish but dont have the mlb package. I used to but decided to spend last summer outside on my deck.
I have a Canadian dish (though not with EI), but I'm not in an area adversely impacted by blackouts. I don't think grey-market discussions are too welcome here, BTW. And as you note, the Canadian version is inferior to DirecTV's offering in many ways.
I just called DirecTv today to make sure I have MLB Extra Innings renewed for the upcoming 2009 season. $179 is the early bird price. No more MLB Superfan though which is a $50 savings. The Customer Service Representative confirmed that if you have HD Access you will automatically receive all the games in HD. So i'll gladly pay $179 for MLB. That's the best package out there for 6 months worth of baseball.
dbsdave
02-05-09, 02:10 PM
"No more MLB Superfan though which is a $50 savings"
That's because superfan no longer exists and most of its features, except for the hd games. Still not a bad deal though.
bwaldron
02-05-09, 02:15 PM
"No more MLB Superfan though which is a $50 savings"
That's because superfan no longer exists and most of its features, except for the hd games. Still not a bad deal though.
It's a good deal for those of us who didn't much use the Superfan extras, but love the HD games.
GlennDio
02-06-09, 08:17 PM
It's a good deal for those of us who didn't much use the Superfan extras, but love the HD games.
+1 ....I used to Think Center Ice was the best bargain of the sports packages but now I think I may have to switch my allegiance to Extra Innings ....assuming we don't lose Cox4/CSN philly/BlueJay/My9 HD games this season ...
wilbur_the_goose
02-07-09, 08:00 PM
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
sigma1914
02-07-09, 09:04 PM
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
Come on? You actually watched baseball the last 10 years & didn't think they were juiced? Heck, it was legal when he tested positive.
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
I'm glad you posted may be now posters will stop getting on to me for wanting to cancel MLB EI because apparently the Game Mix is not going to be part of the Ticket this year. Where have you been? Steroids have been in sports for years and years and not just in Baseball either. And also not just in Pro Sports. There have been news stories about high school students that play sports using steroids.
ccsoftball7
02-07-09, 11:25 PM
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
OK...let's look at this logically...how many grown men (in their late 20's and early 30's) do you know who are 6'5" and weigh 320-350 and run a sub 5.0 40 time? Probably zero. Now, go look at the NFL...is that coincidence?
What about the NBA? Do you really think they are all clean?
From my experience, if you really knew how many people took performance enhancing drugs you would be shocked. The guy sitting next to you at work may be on performance enhancing drugs (ok, maybe not that guy ;) ). I kid you not, it was a much wider spread problem than the pro sports.
But, to think that all the players are clean is a pipe dream. Sorry to burst your bubble.
ccsoftball7
02-07-09, 11:27 PM
Come on? You actually watched baseball the last 10 years & didn't think they were juiced? Heck, it was legal when he tested positive.
No, it wasn't legal. Steroids have been illegal since 1991. There was just no penalty in MLB in 2003. If they were legal, Balco wouldn't be such a big issue.
dbsdave
02-08-09, 12:02 AM
Considering how many people hated afraud anyway, I don't think this will change things much. It's not like we just found out cal ripken was a serial killer. He was hardly a shining example of morality before today, so why be surprised.
May be Jeter is clean and that he why he and A-Rod have had problems getting along :lol: But to give the poor poster a break I do know how he feels because I was very shocked and disappointed when I learned that Andy Pettite wasn't a clean player. Now it wouldn't surprise me if no one was clean.
sigma1914
02-08-09, 12:23 PM
No, it wasn't legal. Steroids have been illegal since 1991. There was just no penalty in MLB in 2003. If they were legal, Balco wouldn't be such a big issue.
You're right, my use of the word "legal" was more to say...It was "allowed & not punishable by the MLB" at the time. I know it was not legal in terms of law enforcement. Bad wording by me.
dhhaines
02-08-09, 03:44 PM
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
Do you watch the NFL??? ALL those guys are on steroids.
Besides no matter how many steroids you take they won't let you hit a 100mph fastball any better. If that were the case then any Joe off the street could step into the batters box and hit homeruns just by using.
dhhaines
02-08-09, 03:46 PM
Come on? You actually watched baseball the last 10 years & didn't think they were juiced? Heck, it was legal when he tested positive.
It's been way longer then 10 years.
GlennDio
02-08-09, 03:55 PM
Do you watch the NFL??? ALL those guys are on steroids.
Besides no matter how many steroids you take they won't let you hit a 100mph fastball any better. If that were the case then any Joe off the street could step into the batters box and hit homeruns just by using.
but it may turn a 20 HR guy with warning track power into a 50+ a year kinda guy .....
everyone that has gone "back down" to lower HR totals the last 2 years or so is a question in my book ... who we should really feel bad for is a guy like Fred McGriff who we don't think ever took anything finished with a ton of HRs anyway but his totals seem pretty small since everyone else was Juicing ... if he's 20 years older he's a HOFer easily ...now probably nothing ...
but it may turn a 20 HR guy with warning track power into a 50+ a year kinda guy .....
everyone that has gone "back down" to lower HR totals the last 2 years or so is a question in my book ... who we should really feel bad for is a guy like Fred McGriff who we don't think ever took anything finished with a ton of HRs anyway but his totals seem pretty small since everyone else was Juicing ... if he's 20 years older he's a HOFer easily ...now probably nothing ...
Not to confuse your opinions with facts, but there is precious little evidence that performance enhancing drugs provide any such effect:
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
leww37334
02-08-09, 04:40 PM
With the steroid news of A-ROD today, I'm cancelling MLBEI.
The game is now on par with WWE.
But Giambi didn't cause you to cancel?
BlackHitachi
02-08-09, 04:51 PM
But Giambi didn't cause you to cancel?:hurah::hurah:
GlennDio
02-08-09, 07:12 PM
Not to confuse your opinions with facts, but there is precious little evidence that performance enhancing drugs provide any such effect:
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
so how do explain all the 50+HR guys and the fact that once they tightened up again they went away? ... Brady Anderson? yes I can't prove the effect exists with an article but I am pretty sure the effect exists since no other series of conclusions can explain what happened/is happening ...
so how do explain all the 50+HR guys and the fact that once they tightened up again they went away? ... Brady Anderson? yes I can't prove the effect exists with an article but I am pretty sure the effect exists since no other series of conclusions can explain what happened/is happening ...
Did you even look at the power factor graphs on the main page of the site? You can't draw conclusions from one or two years of data. For all we know, the ball was changed again last year, in order to reassure fans that the "steroids era" is over. If you look closely at the data with an open mind, I don't think you'll be nearly so sure that there even was a "steroids era." Just because the players believed that these drugs helped them doesn't prove the case. Baseball players believe a lot of dumb things.
surfmaui03
02-08-09, 10:54 PM
Do you watch the NFL??? ALL those guys are on steroids.
Besides no matter how many steroids you take they won't let you hit a 100mph fastball any better.
Sure, it wont make your timing better, but it will make you drive that 100mph fastball out of the park a lot easier than someone NOT juiced up...
If that were the case then any Joe off the street could step into the batters box and hit homeruns just by using.
Of course not. Skill isn't gained by using steroids, power and strength is. I dont think any one is saying steroids give you skill.....Just power.
So in a sense, you`re right. Steroids dont give you the skill to hit a ball, but it does give you the power that you normally wouldn't have....:)
Sure, it wont make your timing better, but it will make you drive that 100mph fastball out of the park a lot easier than someone NOT juiced up...
Of course not. Skill isn't gained by using steroids, power and strength is. I dont think any one is saying steroids give you skill.....Just power.
So in a sense, you`re right. Steroids dont give you the skill to hit a ball, but it does give you the power that you normally wouldn't have....:)
Except that, as the power graphs on Eric Walker's site rather convincingly demonstrate, there hasn't been any power surge in baseball during the so-called "steroids era." Take a look at the "Steroids Era" Spliced PF graph on main page at http://steroids-and-baseball.com/. The physics doesn't work either, since power largely comes from the thighs, while steroids have most of their effect on the upper body.
ccsoftball7
02-09-09, 09:09 AM
The physics doesn't work either, since power largely comes from the thighs, while steroids have most of their effect on the upper body.
HUH??? You might see more dramatic evidence in one's upper body, but trust me they have a HUGE effect on the legs as well.
Except that, as the power graphs on Eric Walker's site rather convincingly demonstrate, there hasn't been any power surge in baseball during the so-called "steroids era." Take a look at the "Steroids Era" Spliced PF graph on main page at http://steroids-and-baseball.com/. The physics doesn't work either, since power largely comes from the thighs, while steroids have most of their effect on the upper body.
Funny how MR. Walker and others that use statistical analysis to debunk the use of steroids as "performance enhancing" will quickly discuss and dismiss the reason many baseball players use steroids in the first place. It has less to do with strength and much more to do with injury healing and recovery speed. Funny how that aspect is quickly lumped in with the use of stimulants and given little discussion. And anyone who thinks shortening recovery time is not important over the course of a 162 season needs to think again.
Funny how MR. Walker and others that use statistical analysis to debunk the use of steroids as "performance enhancing" will quickly discuss and dismiss the reason many baseball players use steroids in the first place. It has less to do with strength and much more to do with injury healing and recovery speed. Funny how that aspect is quickly lumped in with the use of stimulants and given little discussion. And anyone who thinks shortening recovery time is not important over the course of a 162 season needs to think again.
Assuming that you are correct about healing -- despite the fact that one of the main arguments against steroid use is that it causes more problems than it helps -- how exactly does that translate into more power? There is some evidence that HGH may aid in healing. I'm not aware of any support for the proposition that anabolic steroids do much more than aid in adding muscle mass. I remember how much the female fans admired Bobby Estelella's guns, but he couldn't hit a lick, with or without steroids. Finally, I didn't see any response to the statistical evidence on the absence of a power surge in baseball. All you did was try to change the subject to provide an alternate motivation for players who used these drugs.
surfmaui03
02-09-09, 10:34 AM
Except that, as the power graphs on Eric Walker's site rather convincingly demonstrate, there hasn't been any power surge in baseball during the so-called "steroids era." Take a look at the "Steroids Era" Spliced PF graph on main page at http://steroids-and-baseball.com/. The physics doesn't work either, since power largely comes from the thighs, while steroids have most of their effect on the upper body.
Not true. Olympic runners have been busted for using steroids. Running requires you to have lower body strength. Having played Baseball from the time I was little, through High school, I can tell you that upper body strength is needed to hit home runs....The graph you posted, well that's just one opinion. There are hundreds more that can prove otherwise....Steroids alone, will not make you a stronger person...You must still work out. You cant tell me That Barry Bonds steroid use, didnt affect his hitting ability over the last several years...
Not true. Olympic runners have been busted for using steroids. Running requires you to have lower body strength. Having played Baseball from the time I was little, through High school, I can tell you that upper body strength is needed to hit home runs....The graph you posted, well that's just one opinion. There are hundreds more that can prove otherwise....Steroids alone, will not make you a stronger person...You must still work out. You cant tell me That Barry Bonds steroid use, didnt affect his hitting ability over the last several years...
But you can apparently tell me that it did. Sorry, but just asserting things doesn't make them so. The numbers show that there hasn't been the power surge that most people claim. I haven't heard anything to the contrary. Conventional wisdom isn't always accurate. All I'm suggesting is a little skepticism. The Mitchell Report just skirted the issue of cause-and-effect, because the evidence simply isn't all that strong.
surfmaui03
02-09-09, 12:39 PM
But you can apparently tell me that it did. Sorry, but just asserting things doesn't make them so. The numbers show that there hasn't been the power surge that most people claim. I haven't heard anything to the contrary. Conventional wisdom isn't always accurate. All I'm suggesting is a little skepticism. The Mitchell Report just skirted the issue of cause-and-effect, because the evidence simply isn't all that strong.
And this claims otherwise.......
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/004603.html
Remember...Both sides are trying to prove the each other wrong. There are many more scientific reports supporting steroids as a performance enhancer, than not. I find it funny how guys towards the end of their careers, that have been accused of using steroids, had a huge spike in their home runs....Usually towards the end of a players career, they hit less...
bwaldron
02-09-09, 01:53 PM
I think we have moved considerably off topic :)
surfmaui03
02-09-09, 02:00 PM
I think we have moved considerably off topic :)
Yes we have....Sorry
wilbur_the_goose
02-09-09, 03:12 PM
I still can't get Phillies games due to the CSN Philly fiasco. I used to watch them in the mix channel.
With my wife laid off, I'm just not sure if we'll be able to afford it. Of course, we still don't know the price.
bwaldron
02-09-09, 03:36 PM
I still can't get Phillies games due to the CSN Philly fiasco.
Yes, you Philly sports fans on DirecTV need a bailout. I'm sure Specter is working hard on your behalf. :)
I still can't get Phillies games due to the CSN Philly fiasco. I used to watch them in the mix channel.
With my wife laid off, I'm just not sure if we'll be able to afford it. Of course, we still don't know the price.
Satracer said earlier the price was $179 (I guess that was the auto renewal price) while the Early Bird price was $189. But it still wasn't up on D*'s website the last time I looked. And I still haven't heard anything 100% definite about Game Mix. The last I heard was it didn't look good for us getting the Game Mix. Oh and by the way I'm sorry we all gave you such a hard time about your comments about A-Rod and the MLB :( If you don't want MLB EI, for whatever reason, that is your business.
And thank you for being so good natured about all the comments :) And it certainly got everyone's attention away from me not wanting MLB EI without the Game Mix so thanks again :sunsmile:
I know its apples and oranges, but MLB.TV Premium from www.mlb.com is only going to be $109.95.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/index.jsp?c_id=mlb&affiliateId=ATTRACTIONS
It's going to offer 720p HD pictures when available and the ability to listen to the radio feed while watching the game.
dbsdave
02-09-09, 06:19 PM
I know its apples and oranges, but MLB.TV Premium from www.mlb.com is only going to be $109.95.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/index.jsp?c_id=mlb&affiliateId=ATTRACTIONS
It's going to offer 720p HD pictures when available and the ability to listen to the radio feed while watching the game.
I hope they have a demo where you actually get to see what the 720p picture quality is like. Very skeptical it will look decent at fullscreen even with though I exceed their speed test by 10 times. Interactive features look nice though, especially since extra innings is not going to have game mix or strikezone. Considering I have an htpc connected to my main display, I am intrigued.
I know its apples and oranges, but MLB.TV Premium from www.mlb.com is only going to be $109.95.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/index.jsp?c_id=mlb&affiliateId=ATTRACTIONS
It's going to offer 720p HD pictures when available and the ability to listen to the radio feed while watching the game.
I think I will stick with my MLB.TV Premium subscription this season, and leave my TV tuned to the MLB Network for their MLB Tonight broadcasts. That will be the best of both worlds. :)
wilbur_the_goose
02-10-09, 08:16 AM
Dolly,
Trust me, with what we've been through, getting blasted for my comments on A-Rod are the least of my worries. I actually enjoyed some of the comments!
Dolly,
Trust me, with what we've been through, getting blasted for my comments on A-Rod are the least of my worries. I actually enjoyed some of the comments!
My you really are a good natured person to actually have enjoyed some of the comments :sunsmile: But knowing the way I felt about Andy Pettite there is no excuse for me jumping on to you about the way you felt about A-Rod :nono: :blush: Again I'm sorry and it won't happen any more I promise :angel:
scott72
02-11-09, 01:21 AM
Did you even look at the power factor graphs on the main page of the site? You can't draw conclusions from one or two years of data. For all we know, the ball was changed again last year, in order to reassure fans that the "steroids era" is over. If you look closely at the data with an open mind, I don't think you'll be nearly so sure that there even was a "steroids era." Just because the players believed that these drugs helped them doesn't prove the case. Baseball players believe a lot of dumb things.
Boy you sure are naive..
Guttboy
02-12-09, 11:29 AM
Got an email today from DirecTV....
Looks like MLB EI is ready for preorder....
MLB EI Early Bird Link (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3180002&footernavtype=-1)
" $189 (or 4 payments of $47.25) with your DIRECTV base package."
Thoughts?
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