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vp84
01-10-09, 10:52 AM
I downloaded the Hulk 1080P trailer and the picture and sound were good, but the picture did not fill the entire screen, only the upper left corner of my screen. Does anyone know why this would be or if I have a wrong setting? I don't think it is setting with the TV itself as Blu-Ray works fine and all other HD channels look normal. I have the HR20-100 and a 58" Panasonic Plasma (TH58pz700u -I think is the number) Any help is appreciated, thanks.

BattleZone
01-10-09, 11:48 AM
It sounds like your TV doesn't support 1080/24p input signals. You'll have to let the receiver convert to 1080/60i for you.

Uncle Lar
01-10-09, 12:11 PM
Where did you find this trailer? I only see the full movie in 1080p on VOD.

vp84
01-10-09, 01:32 PM
I downloaded it a couple weeks ago, did a search and found it. How do I let the receiver convert the signal? Right now I have native on, do I change that to 1080i?

MountainMan10
01-11-09, 07:44 AM
Try cycling the power on the TV while the trailer is playing.

dettxw
01-11-09, 10:03 AM
I downloaded the Hulk 1080P trailer and the picture and sound were good, but the picture did not fill the entire screen, only the upper left corner of my screen. Does anyone know why this would be or if I have a wrong setting? I don't think it is setting with the TV itself as Blu-Ray works fine and all other HD channels look normal. I have the HR20-100 and a 58" Panasonic Plasma (TH58pz700u -I think is the number) Any help is appreciated, thanks.Gotta have at least an 800 series Panasonic plasma to natively support 1080p/24.
Seems a little strange that it didn't at least accept the signal and do a proper 3:2 pulldown to 1080p/60.
Well, I guess it did display something to you. :lol:
The Blu-ray player probably correctly senses that the TV needs 1080p/60 and automatically sends that format.

I downloaded it a couple weeks ago, did a search and found it. How do I let the receiver convert the signal? Right now I have native on, do I change that to 1080i?If both your 1080i & 720p lights are lit on the front of the DVR then it is trying to send a 1080p/24 signal to the TV. If the TV really doesn't support this then the DVR incorrectly thinks the TV supports the format or you lied to it to force it.
Look under Menu/Parental, Fav's & Setup/Miscellaneous Options to see what resolutions the DVR thinks that the TV supports.
Also Menu/Parental, Fav's & Setup/HDTV/TV Resolutions and see if the 1080p box is checked.
You can always use the RES button on the DVR to switch resolutions.

vp84
01-11-09, 01:45 PM
I do have 1080p checked, I will change it to 1080i. Does this mean that 1080i is the highest res I will be able to get from DirecTv? That kinda bites since this was a pretty expensive TV. I deleted the trailer so I can't try any of this to see if it works, guess I could just buy the movie to see if it works at 1080i. One more dumb question, 1080p/60 should technically be a better picture than 1080p/24 correct? And are all blu-ray movies in 1080p/60 format, or is my tv/ps3 converting them to a different format to adjust to my tv? Thanks for the responses.

dettxw
01-11-09, 04:38 PM
I do have 1080p checked, I will change it to 1080i. Does this mean that 1080i is the highest res I will be able to get from DirecTv?Yes.
The DirecTV hardware only supports 1080p at 24 frames and can't do 60 frames, and your TV doesn't natively support 1080p/24. Need at least a TH-58PZ800U for that.
Here (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155) is a list of TVs that do support 1080p/24 properly.

That kinda bites since this was a pretty expensive TV. I deleted the trailer so I can't try any of this to see if it works, guess I could just buy the movie to see if it works at 1080i. One more dumb question, 1080p/60 should technically be a better picture than 1080p/24 correct? And are all blu-ray movies in 1080p/60 format, or is my tv/ps3 converting them to a different format to adjust to my tv? Thanks for the responses.1080p/60 is a video standard while due to history all movies are shot at a frame rate of 24. You'd have thought that there could have been an agreement and standardization along the line somewhere, eh?
1080p/60 is an inferior way to display a 24 frame rate movie because 24 doesn't go into 60 evenly. Search the forums for an explanation of 3:2 pulldown and the video judder that it induces. There are numerous good descriptions. Also see telecine (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine&sa=X&oi=revisions_result&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNH6x-F3JjFL58uN9P5IZ3jRjuBv-g) on Wikipedia.

All Blu-ray movies are 1080p/24 and will send that to a TV that supports it.
If the TV doesn't support 1080p/24 then the Blu-ray player will perform the 3:2 pulldown and send 1080p/60 to the TV.

BTW, some people argue that the 3:2 pulldown judder isn't a big problem. Some are sensitive to it and some aren't.

mark44
01-11-09, 05:59 PM
why don't they just move film to 30 frames per second.
Life would be good.
or did they do the 24p for the 120Hz tvs......:hurah:

Matman
01-12-09, 09:48 AM
Where did you find this trailer? I only see the full movie in 1080p on VOD.


Its actualy under the "T"s and says "Test your 1080P with the Hulk Trailer" or something along those lines.....

Maverickster
01-12-09, 10:06 AM
...the picture and sound were good, but the picture did not fill the entire screen, only the upper left corner of my screen...I have the HR20-100 and a 58" Panasonic Plasma (TH58pz700u -I think is the number) Any help is appreciated, thanks.

This is what my 58PZ700U does with 1080p/24 as well. Unfortunately, as noted by others, need the next model to really properly handle 1080p/24 (i.e. the 800 series), but even then, the 800 uses 48hz to do it and folks have complained that this introduces way too much flicker. Supposedly, the '09s have fixed this, but Panasonic has pretty dramatically overhauled their model lineup and tech for '09 plasmas (at least based on their CES announcements), so it's a wait-and-see kind of thing.

--Mav

vp84
01-12-09, 04:22 PM
I haven't noticed any video judder with the blu ray and the HD I get from DirecTV I am very happy with also, I was just trying to understand all of this. So the 1080p/24 that my PS3 is converting to 1080p/60 should still be a better picture than the 1080i or 720p I get from DirecTV correct? I guess in the end it doesn't matter that much, because to be honest, it all looks the same to me. This is probably because this tv was a very serious upgrade for me as I previously had a 56 RCA projection set, so I am very happy with my Panasonic and it's picture, I just want to make sure I am getting the most out of it. Thank you everybody for your answers, I am a little behind the times, tech wise.

dettxw
01-12-09, 04:41 PM
I haven't noticed any video judder with the blu ray and the HD I get from DirecTV I am very happy with also, I was just trying to understand all of this. So the 1080p/24 that my PS3 is converting to 1080p/60 should still be a better picture than the 1080i or 720p I get from DirecTV correct? I guess in the end it doesn't matter that much, because to be honest, it all looks the same to me. This is probably because this tv was a very serious upgrade for me as I previously had a 56 RCA projection set, so I am very happy with my Panasonic and it's picture, I just want to make sure I am getting the most out of it. Thank you everybody for your answers, I am a little behind the times, tech wise.Yep, the Blu-ray will be a higher bit-rate, more picture information.

Such things as brightness, black levels, contrast ratio, color accuracy, etc are probably more important in a TV than de-judder processing.