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damart
01-13-09, 07:03 PM
Is it just me or is MSNBC incorrectly showing up in the guide as MNBC?

Noticed that around 8:00PM EST today.

Don

Unknown
01-13-09, 07:51 PM
i notice this too.

tcusta00
01-13-09, 08:08 PM
Because it appears the base call letters (excluding the "HD" at the end of some) are limited to 4 characters.

myselfalso
01-13-09, 08:41 PM
I thought it swtiched from MSNBC to MNBC when my box was updated a few weeks ago.

damart
01-13-09, 09:01 PM
It might have happened a few weeks ago. I don't usually watch MSNBC, but was scrolling through and noticed the change.

/D

Tom Robertson
01-13-09, 09:23 PM
It's been three years since MS pulled out of the MSNBC channel (but not the website.) I haven't found anything about a rename, but it is conceivable.

Cheers,
Tom

myselfalso
01-13-09, 10:19 PM
No, it's not a rename of the channel. It's just a guide issue. They made the text bigger and easier to read, so they dropped a letter.

If the channel is ever rebranded, word has been that it would become essentially NBC News Channel.

BenJF3
01-15-09, 10:05 AM
They can call it whatever they want. Until they offer some type of balance or opposing viewpoints I won't be watching.

PWenger
01-15-09, 10:22 AM
They can call it whatever they want. Until they offer some type of balance or opposing viewpoints I won't be watching.

...and off we go on the Fox News vs. Everybody Else debate...

I take 5 more posts in the "When will this be closed" pool.

BenJF3
01-15-09, 10:26 AM
I mentioned Fox News nowhere - Even CNN offers a counterpoint on many of its shows as well. MSNBC is the only network that reports or comments its point of view with no counterpoint whatsoever. That was my point. It doesn't matter what they name it, it has it's niche market.

cdizzy
01-15-09, 10:33 AM
...and off we go on the Fox News vs. Everybody Else debate...

I take 5 more posts in the "When will this be closed" pool.


Your right. This thread is about the name in the guide not if you watch the channel.

Back to topic.

PWenger
01-15-09, 10:33 AM
I mentioned Fox News nowhere - Even CNN offers a counterpoint on many of its shows as well. MSNBC is the only network that reports or comments its point of view with no counterpoint whatsoever. That was my point. It doesn't matter what they name it, it has it's niche market.

Your point is valid, but your original statement is a trigger, a match throw in gasoline, whatever your favorite metaphor is.

Trust me, there are people on this board that would turn the statement "I like vanilla ice cream" into a debate on the news channels.

:rolleyes:

dbaser
01-15-09, 01:31 PM
Vanilla ice cream makes a thrill go up my leg...

dvdmth
01-15-09, 02:18 PM
I don't remember ever seeing a channel on the Ku band (satellites 101, 110, 119) have call signs longer than four letters. I know that legacy receivers (the ones we used to use before upgrading to HD and a SWM setup) assume only four-letter call signs. As far as I know, MSNBC has always been MNBC in the guide, ever since we first had DirecTV in the later 1990s.

The HD channels in the 70-79 range, as far as I recall, have four-letter names, while the equivalents in the higher channel numbers (which only newer equipment can see) have longer names.

TomF
01-15-09, 03:03 PM
I mentioned Fox News nowhere - Even CNN offers a counterpoint on many of its shows as well. MSNBC is the only network that reports or comments its point of view with no counterpoint whatsoever. That was my point. It doesn't matter what they name it, it has it's niche market.
The Chris Matthews Show has Bill O'Reilly on reguarly, I'd say that's an opposing view. Besides, what's wrong with one channel with the opposite view of all of the Fox channels?

tadtam
01-15-09, 05:08 PM
To stay on topic:
If you highlight the channel #, the information above states:
"MSNBC is a revolutionary 24 hour news.... blah, blah "


So "myselfalso" is correct that its just a guide change,

BenJF3
01-15-09, 06:01 PM
The Chris Matthews Show has Bill O'Reilly on reguarly, I'd say that's an opposing view. Besides, what's wrong with one channel with the opposite view of all of the Fox channels?

There is nothing wrong with an opposing viewpoint, but MSNBC has become a smear merchant with Olbermann at the helm. Sure, once in a great while you might see a counterpoint. However, it's not the norm and you won't see anyone on Olbermann or Maddow's show that challenges them. The problem I had was how obvious the bias is. It's so over the top, it's ridiculous. As I said, it has it's niche market for the left wing liberals. Just as Limbaugh appeals to the right wing idiots. IMHO, there really isn't any hard news channels anymore as much as there is opinion channels. Fox is about the closest it gets and they have their own tilt at times.

To stay on topic:
If you highlight the channel #, the information above states:
"MSNBC is a revolutionary 24 hour news.... blah, blah "



Revolutionary? !rolling Who wrote that description, Keith O?

I'm not going to start a debate about, but anyone that watches the "news" networks can easily see why MSNBC is dead last to CNN and FNC. Just watch for about a week with an objective viewpoint.

Tom Robertson
01-15-09, 07:27 PM
Guys, let us not turn yet another thread into a MSNBC vs. someone else. Please stay on the topic of the call letters. :backtotop

Thanks,
Tom

BenJF3
01-15-09, 07:59 PM
Copy that. Point was made, move on.

I like what Dish is doing now with their guide for the ViP922. Getting away from channel numbers and using logos where you can option to group alphabetically.

levibluewa
01-15-09, 09:54 PM
had it right. MNBC...in preparation for MNBCHD...which I guess is suppose to be up around March?