2 HD TV's from one HR-22?

[Hophead]

I have one DirecTV DVR (HR-22) hooked up to an HD TV, and going to the main TV in my house. I want to be able to get DirecTV on the extra TV in another room. Is there a way to do this without another receiver? I have one HD TV, and one SD TV. I think it works, and you just watch what is on the main DVR. I don't know how to do it, though. I would appreciate a little guidance.

Thanks!

[sorahl]

get yourself a 1 HDMI Input to 2 HDMI output, and a length of HDMI cable.

i have the same setup from my mediacenter

[houskamp]

depending on what the second tv is, you can use any of the other outputs...

[MountainMan10]

I use HDMI to one TV and component to a second.

[raoul5788]

get yourself a 1 HDMI Input to 2 HDMI output, and a length of HDMI cable.

i have the same setup from my mediacenter

That isn't likely to work with a regular display, even though you can get it to work with your media center. When you split an hdmi signal like that, there can be issues with getting both displays to see the signal.

[uod]

They make special splitter/amplifier boxes that allow you to split the hdmi signal.

Some TVs will work with a standard cheap splitter. Some require a special splitter.


Or --- you can do it the easy way and use HDMI for one and component for the other.


This is from a knowledgebase article on monoprice.com about cheap splitters :

Question: The splitter only displays on one display at a time or doesn''''''''t work at all when both displays are connected.

Answer: Unfortunately, due to the current state of the technology, results using HDMI and/or DVI splitters can be mixed. Especially passive splitters which reply on the individual devices ability to negotiate a 3 way handshake. The problem is not all devices are programmed to deal with this properly and will sometimes default to an HDCP error state. To put it simply, some devices will consider a split of the signal to be a copyright violation, so it may decide that only one display should show at a time or may block the content entirely. This type of situation is considered to be a device compatibility issue and can not be fixed short of a firmware update by the individual device manufacturers.

If your problem stems from using a passive splitter, you may want to consider using one of our powered splitter options. Powered splitters have chips that will help negotiate the handshake. However, there is no way to know for sure if this solution will work except to try it.

[Hophead]

I am gathering that the only solution is to use one of the outputs on the back of the HR-22, correct? I think I was hoping that I could use a coaxial cable instead of buying that length of Component or HDMI cabling. It is about 40 feet of travel to the second TV. That can get rather expensive with some of those cables...

Thanks!

[Lee L]

If you go to www.monoprice.com, I think you will find component and HDMI cables of that length do no have to be so expensive. I'm pretty sure they have a few HDMI of that length under $50 and component (5 RCA for video and sound) around $20.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I am gathering that the only solution is to use one of the outputs on the back of the HR-22, correct? I think I was hoping that I could use a coaxial cable instead of buying that length of Component or HDMI cabling. It is about 40 feet of travel to the second TV. That can get rather expensive with some of those cables...

Thanks!

If you want to use coaxial cable you need to get a RF modulator. Run RCA's from the HR22 to it and than run coaxial cable to the other room.

They are about $20 to $25.

[Hophead]

If you want to use coaxial cable you need to get a RF modulator. Run RCA's from the HR22 to it and than run coaxial cable to the other room.

They are about $20 to $25.

I had just stumbled upon this concept. I am thinking this may be the best solution, since all of the cables to the rest of the house are behind my HR-22. I can send the signal to the RF modulator, and then split it to all of the other jacks in the house. It won't be the optimal picture, but the only HD TV in the house is currently hooked up to the HR-22, so that is no big deal.

Thanks!

[SatRick]

I looked at this idea as well, currently have this setup as I have a DVR with coax out, running to second tv, but

Switching to HD and Hr2*, we lose the Coax out
looked at the HDMI and RCA options but given cost and effort to run, I found it more expensive than to just add a second DRV, plus you get to watch 2 different things
{ Although I like MikeD's idea, as i already have the 2nd Rg6 there, thanks}

If you have a seconder receiver, see if D** with upgrade you to DVR, cheaply>> R22 is non HD tv> HR if HD

[raoul5788]

I had just stumbled upon this concept. I am thinking this may be the best solution, since all of the cables to the rest of the house are behind my HR-22. I can send the signal to the RF modulator, and then split it to all of the other jacks in the house. It won't be the optimal picture, but the only HD TV in the house is currently hooked up to the HR-22, so that is no big deal.

Thanks!

You won't get hd that way, only sd. You need either hdmi or component cables for hd.

[MRinDenver]

This hdmi splitter is reasonably priced and works with my 50" Panasonic panel and a 19" kitchen Samsung with a 30 foot run.

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/1x4hdsphdand.html

[peaches]

They make special splitter/amplifier boxes that allow you to split the hdmi signal.

Some TVs will work with a standard cheap splitter. Some require a special splitter.


Or --- you can do it the easy way and use HDMI for one and component for the other.


This is from a knowledgebase article on monoprice.com about cheap splitters :

Question: The splitter only displays on one display at a time or doesn''''''''t work at all when both displays are connected.

Answer: Unfortunately, due to the current state of the technology, results using HDMI and/or DVI splitters can be mixed. Especially passive splitters which reply on the individual devices ability to negotiate a 3 way handshake. The problem is not all devices are programmed to deal with this properly and will sometimes default to an HDCP error state. To put it simply, some devices will consider a split of the signal to be a copyright violation, so it may decide that only one display should show at a time or may block the content entirely. This type of situation is considered to be a device compatibility issue and can not be fixed short of a firmware update by the individual device manufacturers.

If your problem stems from using a passive splitter, you may want to consider using one of our powered splitter options. Powered splitters have chips that will help negotiate the handshake. However, there is no way to know for sure if this solution will work except to try it.

I agree, even though I DID NOT stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[Hophead]

You won't get hd that way, only sd. You need either hdmi or component cables for hd.

Currently, the only HD TV that I have is plugged in to my HR-22 with a HDMI cable. The other TV is too old for HD, so a RF modulator shouldn't be a problem. All of the coax cabling is there, so this should be a nice fix, I think. At a later date, if I need HD somewhere else in the house, I can look into a HDMI splitter, or other option. I think the RF modulator may work for the current application, though... Right?

[Hophead]

I looked at this idea as well, currently have this setup as I have a DVR with coax out, running to second tv, but

Switching to HD and Hr2*, we lose the Coax out
looked at the HDMI and RCA options but given cost and effort to run, I found it more expensive than to just add a second DRV, plus you get to watch 2 different things
{ Although I like MikeD's idea, as i already have the 2nd Rg6 there, thanks}

If you have a seconder receiver, see if D** with upgrade you to DVR, cheaply>> R22 is non HD tv> HR if HD

Yes, it would've been MUCH easier if the HR-22 had a coax output! Plus, it would be nice to have a separate tuner at each TV, but I don't want to have to pay each month for that nicety. Or did DirecTV do away with the charge per tuner fee?

[Kiwi474]

I might do the Rf modulator as well? Can i program two RC64R to work on one dvr. That way I don't have to bring the remote back and forth to each room. It would be a pain to find the remote each time.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I might do the Rf modulator as well? Can i program two RC64R to work on one dvr. That way I don't have to bring the remote back and forth to each room. It would be a pain to find the remote each time.

Yes as long as both are RF or IR. The HR2x's can not do RF and IR at the same time.

[Dansport]

You said the other tv is too old for HD.

Remember that if you connect a standard-def tv to the HR-22 then you'll only be able to see the SD channels on that tv and then only when your watching an SD channel in the main room. The only way to see a picture on the second tv when watching an HD program is to buy a down-convertor, which pretty much defeats the cost benefit.

[MountainMan10]

Connected to my HR21-700
HDMI - Sharp TV
Component - Hava, Visio TV
S-Video - Samsung - also connected to HR22-100 via HDMI
Composite - To a composite to VGA converter and then an LCD monitor

All display HD and SD programs. Using composite or s-video to an RF modulator should do HD. I had that setup for a few weeks. Looked horrible. The HD channels were squished. Children took the RF modulator back to use with their video game consoles.

You can watch HD via composite or s-video, but it is down res to 480i.

[raoul5788]

Currently, the only HD TV that I have is plugged in to my HR-22 with a HDMI cable. The other TV is too old for HD, so a RF modulator shouldn't be a problem. All of the coax cabling is there, so this should be a nice fix, I think. At a later date, if I need HD somewhere else in the house, I can look into a HDMI splitter, or other option. I think the RF modulator may work for the current application, though... Right?

Your original post said two hd tvs, so I thought that's what you were connecting. As far as the rf modulator, you can use a vcr for that.

[harsh]

The only way to see a picture on the second tv when watching an HD program is to buy a down-convertor, which pretty much defeats the cost benefit.Just so nobody gets the wrong impression, this is bad information. All programming (HD and SD) is output in SD format on the S-VHS and composite outputs.

[harsh]

Your original post said two hd tvs, so I thought that's what you were connecting.Don't you hate it when people who want answers don't give up the most important details?

[Hophead]

Your original post said two hd tvs, so I thought that's what you were connecting. As far as the rf modulator, you can use a vcr for that.

So it does! Sorry about that. I only have 1 HD TV, and that is hooked up to the main DVR (HR-22). The other TV is older and only SD. I was wondering why everyone was stuck on the 2 HD signal idea! My bad...

[Hophead]

Don't you hate it when people who want answers don't give up the most important details?

A simple mistake, actually. The only place I (incorrectly) mention 2 HD TV's is in the very first post as a title. Granted, this is what practically everyone ELSE sees and is using to search for and reply to posts. I, on the other hand, click on the link in my email saying someone has replied to my thread and it takes me to the bottom of the thread. I missed the title from the very first post. Thank you for your understanding, though....

To recap:
1 HD TV currently hooked up to a HR-22 DirecTV HD DVR
1 SD TV in another room, desiring to have a DirecTV signal
- planning on hooking up a RF modulator from the HR-22 to send the signal through the coax to the rest of the house, and hence the other SD TV

Any way to improve on this scenario? Should this work? I have an old VCR that would work, but I don't want to put a big, old VCR in my home theater system just to use the RF modulator.

[Michael D'Angelo]

A simple mistake, actually. The only place I (incorrectly) mention 2 HD TV's is in the very first post as a title. Granted, this is what practically everyone ELSE sees and is using to search for and reply to posts. I, on the other hand, click on the link in my email saying someone has replied to my thread and it takes me to the bottom of the thread. I missed the title from the very first post. Thank you for your understanding, though....

To recap:
1 HD TV currently hooked up to a HR-22 DirecTV HD DVR
1 SD TV in another room, desiring to have a DirecTV signal
- planning on hooking up a RF modulator from the HR-22 to send the signal through the coax to the rest of the house, and hence the other SD TV

Any way to improve on this scenario? Should this work? I have an old VCR that would work, but I don't want to put a big, old VCR in my home theater system just to use the RF modulator.

If all you want/need is SD in the other room that setup will work great for you.

[Hophead]

Thanks for the help, Michael!

[Hophead]

Just so nobody gets the wrong impression, this is bad information. All programming (HD and SD) is output in SD format on the S-VHS and composite outputs.

This is indeed true, fortunately. It would have been a small PITA if it didn't work this way. All channels show up on the SD TV. The picture may be a little squished, but it is there.

[WestDC]

A simple mistake, actually. The only place I (incorrectly) mention 2 HD TV's is in the very first post as a title. Granted, this is what practically everyone ELSE sees and is using to search for and reply to posts. I, on the other hand, click on the link in my email saying someone has replied to my thread and it takes me to the bottom of the thread. I missed the title from the very first post. Thank you for your understanding, though....

To recap:
1 HD TV currently hooked up to a HR-22 DirecTV HD DVR
1 SD TV in another room, desiring to have a DirecTV signal
- planning on hooking up a RF modulator from the HR-22 to send the signal through the coax to the rest of the house, and hence the other SD TV

Any way to improve on this scenario? Should this work? I have an old VCR that would work, but I don't want to put a big, old VCR in my home theater system just to use the RF modulator.


Hook it up turn it on and lay it behind the Home theater system:)