Multi-Satellite One Dish Solution

[Jacob S]

Perhaps this is a solution Charlie himself has even been looking at. This would solve some of the problems with dish sizes and multi-satellite issues, instead of having to use multiple dishes.

http://www.multilnbdish.com/Photo%20Gallery.htm

I wonder how come they had something like this at Team Summit last year for the merger dish solution but not for 105/110/119/121 solution?

[Mike D-CO5]

It would be easier than all those dishes needed now for hdtv and 110, 119, 61.5, etc. and it would make the fcc happy." The ONE dish solution. "
It must have been more expensive than Dish's version. You know Charlie likes to do everything in house to save money.

[Mike123abc]

The dishes there would work for 105-121, but they do not look at the sky to see 61.5 to 119 (more than 40 degrees). Also, would not work 105 - 148 since that would be 43 degrees. It could work 110 - 148 if you did not want 105.

A single dish would be much cheaper to produce than the toroidal 2 part solution. The superdish is just one piece stamped/formed metal with an arm to the LNB block. They probably will have a single LNB unit that will point to all 4 satellite locations.

[Jacob S]

They could have a 110-148 solution for the west coast (put west coast locals on 121) and a 105-121 solution for the east coast (put east coast locals on 105).

What are the sizes of these torodial dishes? How much of a reduction in size is there in the dish because it is torodial? Perhaps another solution is a combination of torodial and array flat panel dish to reduce the size.

[Ken_F]

Jacob,

They sell a 20x26" dish with a sub 10x20" sub reflector, and a 38x43" dish with a 14x33" sub reflector. On the web site, they give some examples where the 20x26" is used for a 30-34 degree spread, and others where a 40 degree spread is used for the larger dish.

Obviously, Taroidal dishes like this 20*26" T55 model (http://www.multilnbdish.com/images/Application-Winnipeg,%20Canada.jpg) (also here (http://www.multilnbdish.com/images/SBCA.JPG)) that can see 30-40 degrees are a lot more cumbersome and aesthetically displeasing than this Echostar-proposed 18x22" taroidal (http://www.dishretailer.com/ts2002/Disk2/MVC-003S.JPG) for a merged Dish/DirecTV that could only see 20 degrees (101-119).

DirecTV uses a 18x24" dish for 101/110/119, so the taroidal proposed for Dish/DirecTV would have saved a whopping 2 inches.

[Jacob S]

The sub reflector on the proposed merger is much smaller than the Taroidal dishes which causes it to only see 10 degress but seems to be a bit simpler and better looking for what is needed for the 105-121 slots. I suppose the 20x26 dish would be better having it a few inches bigger than having a 18x24 dish with a sub refector and cheaper as well.

I see people have rv dishes that are 15 inches, if they can have the dishes 3 inches smaller to still get a signal in (more rainfade) then I figure that there could be a smaller dish for the SuperDish as well for those that need it for rv'ing and traveling to still get a signal in although it would create more rainfade and be a weaker signal. I wonder how much smaller the SuperDish could be and still be able to pick up a signal?

[bentbike1]

suposedly now there are quad lnbs with built in switches i have a dish 5000 dish and a lower model reciver and a dishweb player both run just fine so have the dish at a diffrent angel shouldnt be an issue