Hey Charlie...

[Mark L]

How about adding something besides a bunch of $*@(!)@# Latino channels? Like I give a rat's rear end about "Univision West" and "Telefutura"? What about Ovation, Trio, HBO Zone, or stuff us AMERICAN ENGLISH SPEAKING VIEWERS want to watch? Do you not care about us anymore? There's enough friggin Latino channels already on your service, enough already!

[TNGTony]

Well, this AMERICAN is pretty darned happy about the Telefutira and the movie chanels coming to Dish Latino. (and Univision West coming to AT100 as well).

With this addition to Dish Latino NOW I think there is a good mix of spanish language channels (there are more spanish speaking AMERICANS than there are African AMERICANS now...that's NOT counting the illegals) to be worth the $30. Remember that more than half the Dish Latino channels are AMERICAN companies providing service to AMERICANS!

See ya
Tony

[Darkman]

sorry Mark L, but who P^ssed into your cereal this morning, AMERICAN? :rolleyes:

[Jacob S]

Well I do see his point, it does seem like other programming that speaks foreign languages have been added a lot lately and not many english speaking channels have been added for a while, although we cannot leave out the people that like the foreign programming as well.

[Darkman]

That's right Jacob (about "we cannot leave out the people that like the foreign programming as well.") - expecially when they are AMERICANS as well :)

I guess for SURE then it wasn't you (re: "Mark L's cereal") - hehe

[BobaBird]

Dish had to add channels to be more competitive with DirecTV's Spanish package. How do they compare now?

[Steve Mehs]

Even with the additions of the new channels I still think DirecTV has a better over all spanish and spanish/english bilingual structure. When Charlie said that new movie channels were coming I was expecting to say HBO Zone or a few extra Max's, I was disappointed they were Spanish movie channels.

[sampatterson]

I, also as a Spanish speaking AMERICAN am glad that they will be adding 6 more channels to Dish Latino. It makes the rate hike a little more tolerable. I like the international channels because some of their programming is *so* different than stuff from the States. That is one of the big reasons I like satellite. Choice.

With that said, I do wish they would add some more to AT 150 also that are in English!

[gopherscot]

I agree somewhat with the above poster .. Spanish channels do nothing for me. I am happy for the dish Latino people but don't include it in the Top150 and brag about all the new channels you are adding. To me, I speak English, these channels are useless.

[Pecos]

I hope Telefutura features as much scantilly clad beautiful women, as Univision!!! Thanks for adding it, Charlie!!!!

[Tomsoundman]

Aren't Spanish speaking people the largest minority group now? Sounds like a good marketing/market share move to me.

[John Walsh]

Originally posted by Tomsoundman
Aren't Spanish speaking people the largest minority group now? Sounds like a good marketing/market share move to me.

yes that is true - just over 35,000,000 or 12.5% of the population -

coming in second is Black / African American at 34,600,000 or 12.3% of the population

[Nick]

Noticed that "Mark L" isn't a registered member. Is he the same troll who is always touting cable?

Buenos dias, mi compadres.

Those who are complaining about the addition of SL channels need to stop and do an attitude check. How would you feel if you moved to Canada and didn't speak Canadian? Even if you were fluent in Canadian, you would still want to watch TV in your native American language. Even worse, what if you were in Quebec and were forced to watch TV in French. Yuck!

It could be even worse. You could be black, or African-American if you prefer. What do you get? BET and Black Starz? I think our beloved black brothers and sisters should be upset about the dearth of afro-centric programming. UPN and WB aside, we need much more racially-targeted content.

I am a European*-American, and, except for the WWII channel, I see very little programming that satisfies my need to discover my continental origins.

Put yourself in the place of our wonderful Spanish-speaking friends who have chosen to live in this great land. I say welcome, here is your MTV.

Adios, amgios!

*not French

[Scott Greczkowski]

I do agree with Mark L to a degree.

And that degree is they are going out an adding a West Coast Feed of a Spanish Channel to AT 100 when the same people (Charlie and Jim) say that when asked about West Coast Feeds of English Channels to get a PVR and time shift that way.

The fact that they add a West Coast Feed of a Spanish Channel which they already have the East Coast Feed to me is just wierd.

Of course the spanish channels always have the best looking woman on them, so I am not complaigning too much. :D

[Hamster]

I'd love to see some German language channels added. Anyone know if its in the works? I emailed dish and they sent me something about 100 new channels being added. I'd love to have some more Western European channels... esp German.

[John Walsh]

Originally posted by Scott Greczkowski
Of course the spanish channels always have the best looking woman on them, so I am not complaigning too much. :D

I guess thats why I married a beautiful latin woman :D



BTW the group with the largest reported ancestory is German with the Irish coming in at a close second (guess us Irish people get around...that's a pretty small country)

[Richard King]

How would you feel if you moved to Canada and didn't speak Canadian? Canada, eh?

[Tomsoundman]

yeah, words like Molson, hockey, tooke, etc. Like the McKenzie Brothers who spoke Canadian.

[bogi]

Originally posted by TNGTony
Well, this AMERICAN is pretty darned happy


:D
:righton:

[markh]

Originally posted by Pecos
I hope Telefutura features as much scantilly clad beautiful women, as Univision!!! Thanks for adding it, Charlie!!!!

That is the truly international language! :D

[Chris Freeland]

Spanish was my toughest subject in Collage, passed by the skin of my teeth, however I do like those Latino woman on those channels ;). The Dish Latino packages are the ones that need the most help in additional channels. I have no problem with E* adding Univision West and Telefutura being added to AT100 either, these were going to be added to the Latino packages any way, so why not add them to AT100/150 so we can all enjoy looking at those Latino woman ;) ? Yes, it would be nice to have some new channels in the AT packs and premium movie packs too, I suspect their will be. I think us that have had DBS for a long time have gotten spoiled to frequent new channel additions, however we are at a point now weir most if not all of the most popular basic channels are included in are packages now and their is a limit to the number of channels that E* and D* can add and still make money.

[xgrep]

The non-english programming is the *only* reason I subscribe to Dish. Otherwise, I'd have been on DirecTV or a cable company long ago. I am not the only person who feels this way, and the int'l programming is also a big source of revenue: imagine Dish getting $10/mo or more for a single channel. If it takes up modest bandwidth and generates revenue that keeps our rates reasonable on all the other stuff we want, I say let's have more of it.

Originally posted by Rking401
Canada, eh?You got a point there. That should be Canadia :-)

x

[Steve Mehs]

Actually it's spelled C-eh-N-eh-D-eh :D

[rtt2]

How many requests does it take to get a channel added. It seems a lot of people want HBO Zone (including me) but Dish Network does not respond.
I wish Dish Network had a place on its website that was specifically made to request channels. Even when I go to a programmer's website to request a channel I can request a channel for my local cable provider & DirecTV but not Dish Network. Is this on purpose?

[Steve Mehs]

They could have eaisly added HBO Zone instead of HBO Latino. IMO, HBO Latino is the biggest wasted amount of bandwidth on Dish Network. The vast majoriy of HBO Latino programming is HBO simulcasted with SAP on by default. I just went through the 9 day EPG on my 508, out of 216 hours HBO Latino has about 30 hours worth of programing not shown on HBO, a few hours of that are Latino Music videos.

[Kuni]

What should be done is that each Channel should have a $ assigned to it and peeps pick the exact Channels they want. And furthermore the ones that u don’t want, don’t show up in the Guide in Red. For example, I don’t watch Sports but they’re still in the Guide in Red. Pain in the Butt to scroll through.

[Hamster]

Speaking of SAP broadcasts. Does anyone know a good internet TV guide that lets you know which programs are broadcasted with SAP?

[Mark Holtz]

Originally posted by Kuni
What should be done is that each Channel should have a $ assigned to it and peeps pick the exact Channels they want. And furthermore the ones that u don’t want, don’t show up in the Guide in Red. For example, I don’t watch Sports but they’re still in the Guide in Red. Pain in the Butt to scroll through.

First off, there are two default options: All Channels and All Sub. All Sub will give you only the channels you subscribe to. You can then program a favorites list.

And, what you are describing (each channel should have a $ assigned to it so that you can pick and choose) is called a'la carte programming. The program providers generally require that a package be placed in a certain package. As an example, Disney, who owns E$PN (one of the most expensive basic channels) be placed in the AT50.

The worst example I can think of is YE$ Network. That's a channel with also a $2 per subscriber fee. Dish and YE$ have been unable to come to terms. YE$ absolutely refuses to be a'la carte.

That is what sucks about this whole entire situation.

[Mark Holtz]

Also, if you want a channel carried, you might want to try writing to Dish Network. Here is the address from Yahoo:

5701 S. Santa Fe Drive
Littleton, CO 80120

[Nick]

Chris Freeland wrote: "Spanish was my toughest subject in Collage."

Chris, it may be to late for you, but for the graduating HS seniors among us, the first thing you want to learn when you go to college is how to spell "college". :D

[Cyclone]

I wasn't that good in skool either.

[Chris Freeland]

Originally posted by Nick
Chris Freeland wrote: "Spanish was my toughest subject in Collage."

Chris, it may be to late for you, but for the graduating HS seniors among us, the first thing you want to learn when you go to college is how to spell "college". :D

Oops, that one got past me and the spell checker, and I never did learn how to spell in school either :shrug: .

[Chris Freeland]

duplicate

[minnow]

"How would you feel if you moved to Canada and didn't speak Canadian..."

Not for nothing here, but this is America and the official language is English. In my opinion, that's one of the biggest problems facing our nation today - immigrants that want all the benefits of being an American but refuse to adopt the American beliefs and language. If you want to speak Spanish or Chinese etc. as your primary language and want to make your neigborhood a "little Cuba" then stay out.

[FTA Michael]

Nope, there is no official language. We're not like France, which runs its language through an official government agency that decides which words can be added and which ones can't.

I can't even imagine what refusing "to adopt American beliefs" would be like. Ignoring all episodes of Wheel Of Fortune? Trying to stifle free speech? Making your own birthday card instead of buying one from a store?

[DChristmann]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about whether or not DISH adds Ovation or Trio or HBO Zone or the Tiddlywinks Channel or MTV Polka or whatever other niche channel is the cause celebre of this week?

Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me whether DISH adds those channels or Telefutura or Univision west. They're all channels whose greatest impact on my life is to length the time I spend surfing through the program guide.

More channels is nice, but the way some of you carry on, you'd think that DISH was committing some grievous insult to people everywhere because they're not carrying a channel that would be watched by maybe 53 people in the entire country.

But just to prove that I'm no better in that regard, let me just state that I think that DISH needs to stop screwing around with all these new pissant SD channels and start carrying more HD content.

[DChristmann]

Originally posted by carload
I can't even imagine what refusing "to adopt American beliefs" would be like. Ignoring all episodes of Wheel Of Fortune? Trying to stifle free speech? Making your own birthday card instead of buying one from a store?
I don't know.

Maybe it's like the fellow next to me at work. He's quite the sports fan. We talk quite a bit about the Mavs, about golf, about the latest flicks down at the cinema.

But he's Indian and pays some serious bread to subscribe to some of the Indian channels on DISH in addition to the usual America's Top Whatever. I guess that because he likes to watch cricket or the occasional Bollywood film, he must be refusing to "adopt American beliefs."

[TNGTony]

Originally posted by minnow
Not for nothing here, but this is America and the official language is English.

Show me one document that makes English the official langueage for anything other than the Federal Government...and even then it's only for official proceedings. I bet you can't.

I've mentioned this before, but our founding fathers took up thid febate on FOUR separate occasions and on all four separate occasions the decision was made NOT to have an official language for the country. Why? At the time and throughout the ENTIRE history of the United States there has been at least one group (usually more) that "invaded" the country. During revolutionary times, Pennsylvania it was hard to get around without speaking German/Dutch (I forget the dialect). Through the entire expansion west and to the present, those "damned Chinamen" were taking over. The entire west was forceably removed from Mexican control. During the turn of the 19th Century it was very difficult to get around many parts of the Northeast without knowing some Italian. In Chicago it was Polish. In Cincinnati, they taught elementary schools in German for half the day until World War 1.

As I've said before, this is nothing new in US history. And the misnomer is that "these people don't want to learn English". That is totally untrue. These people want to see programming and cultural content they grew up with. The NUMBER 1 advertisers on these channels (Univision, Telemundo, Galavision--AMERICAN networks that happen to speak Spanish) is "learn English to get ahead...you're a lowlife unless you learn English." They are almost as common as SUV and beer commercials during the Superbowl on one of the major U.S. networks.

See ya
Tony

[RichW]

We North Americans are really linguistically challenged compared to the rest of the world, and that's a shame! It shows that, because English is so common, we are too lethargic to learn another language or two.

[Mark Holtz]

If you want to deal with a smorgasborg of languages, come to Sacramento, CA. We are probably one of the most ethnically diverse communities in the country. Besides English and Spanish, there are also the Asian, Russian, and Ukranian languages here. (If anyone doesn't believe me, check the news archives for Soltys, cirta August, 2001).

English is de facto language of this country, it is by no means official. While I believe that when you live in a country, you should be able to speak the language of the country. They should not have the accomondate you to live there.

(Oh, and if you ever wonder why DVDs have English and French language tracks, it's so that the DVD can be distributed in Canada. Some Canadian retails have a "reversable DVD cover" so that you can flip the cover over and volia, everything is in French instead of English.)

[DISHjanitor]

i'm glad Telefutura is being added. it's the only channel that will show the US soccer team play Brazil in the FIFA confederations cup this June.

those extra latino channels are fine, but i hope dish adds ESPN Deportes (launching Q3?) because i wanna watch the next season of the UEFA champions league.

[Darkman]

158 has new EPG name now -----> FUSE