number of dishes on a roof

[dorfd1]

What is the record number of dishes dishnetwork had to install for a customer

[BattleZone]

There should never be a situation where more than 2 dishes are needed, though someone could *choose* to use more, for example, to solve a line-of-site issue.

[harsh]

What is the record number of dishes dishnetwork had to install for a customerI would guess that if you tried to pick the worst combination, you could need three dishes.

I suppose that if you were trying to shoot through a 2' hole in a wall, you might need four if you subscribed to just the right internationals and HD.

[harsh]

There should never be a situation where more than 2 dishes are needed, though someone could *choose* to use more, for example, to solve a line-of-site issue.Or if someone wanted some PI content that was only available on an one satellite.

[renpar61]

I have three dishes. The installer said it was the only way to do it. :rolleyes:
When he came there was one E* dish from the former owner of my townhouse, another one from my neighbor who didn't use it because switched to cable, and a new one was installed. They are all Dish 500. I wasn't (and still I am not) very happy with 2 dishes on the garage roof and one more on the deck, but apparently there was no alternative.
I thought the installer was lazy and instead of removing/replacing the existing ones, he went for the easy route.
Are there any disadvantages (PQ) in combining signals from three dishes?
Do you think I can ask E* to streamline the installation?

[renpar61]

Did I win anything? :hurah:

[Mertzen]

At the direcTV side there would be a hypothetical change of a 3 dish setup. Never seen one though.

[nismo]

Did an HD upgrade this past summer to add 61.5 to existing 119/110. The problem was the big elm tree had blocked 119 and left 110 marginal. Customer agreed to have 3 dishes all spread out on his roof in order for it to work. -Had to even move the orginal dish just to gain 110. Had this needed 118.7, it would truly be a dish farm.

As far as signal quality, it's likely better since each dish/orbital is peaked individually.

[jerry downing]

We have apartment buildings around here with a dozen or more dishes. There should be some way to use one or two sets of dishes for everybody.

[Mertzen]

Had a cust today with 3 dishes, 118.7, 110/119 and 61.5 but the last one was out of commission?

[Jason Nipp]

I have had my fair share.

I'm down to two now, both I mounted near ground level.


http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5322&d=1139422154

[Richard King]

I have three dishes, by choice. I installed them all myself, so Dish was not involved. I have an 18" Dish 300 pointed at both 61.5 and 110, and a 24" dish at 119.

[JohnH]

30" each 148, 119, 110 and 61.5. 1 meter for H2 and 72.7. AT9 and 30" for D*. 76 CM each G16 and G18. 7.5' C/Ku and 10' C/Ku. :)
All installed myself and all on the roof, flat as it is.

[kevinturcotte]

Not sure where this came from. No, it's not me lol

[BattleZone]

We have apartment buildings around here with a dozen or more dishes. There should be some way to use one or two sets of dishes for everybody.

There's a way, but it means that the apartment complex owners must pay for the installation, upgrades, and maintenance, and work with a company to manage connects and disconnects. Most complexes don't want to spend the time and money, and end up letting their customers have their own dishes.

And, no, it would NOT be possible to do it any other way. Without management and rules, you'd have tenants disconnecting other tenants, people "upgrading" or completely removing dishes that others needed, etc. And since most smaller apartment complexes don't want to pay for anything, and since all MDU jobs are subcontracted out, there's not much money in them to make it worth doing all the work.

[Papote]

3 Five foot dishes...
Getting pretty common here in Puerto Rico with HD channels (110, 119, 61.5).
Then again we have cement roofs...

[HDftw]

Not sure where this came from. No, it's not me lol

I think he's trying to steal tv :lol:

[Mr. Vega]

i've seen 2 single LNB Direct dishes used to pick up 110 and 119 from Dish. i would have thought LNB technology would be proprietery.

[PTown]

i've seen 2 single LNB Direct dishes used to pick up 110 and 119 from Dish. i would have thought LNB technology would be proprietery.

Some is, some isn't.

[ShapeShifter]

I have had my fair share.
All I see is the dreaded red X. :crying:

I tried typing the picture URL directly into my browser, and got a message that I don't have permission to view that page. It looks like maybe you've stored the picture in a place that we mere mortals can't see it?

[jdonato]

3 Five foot dishes...
Getting pretty common here in Puerto Rico with HD channels (110, 119, 61.5).
Then again we have cement roofs...
Yes. Two 6 footers and one 5 footer (119, 61.5, 110). That's how it's done in Puerto Rico.

[Albie]

Not sure where this came from. No, it's not me lol

Currently a D* sub but always looking to learn. What is the big elliptical dish in this picture? (post #14) I think it says "Superdish" on it and what sats would it most likely see?

Thanks for any info.

[BattleZone]

What is the big elliptical dish in this picture? (post #14) I think it says "Superdish" on it and what sats would it most likely see?

It's a Dish Network Superdish all right. Specifically, it's a "105" Superdish, designed to pick up 105, 110, and 119. There is another version that picks up 110, 119, and 121, using an LNB assembly that is a mirror image of the 105 LNB.

Both 105 and 121 locations are obsolete for residential use, and have been for a couple of years already. 121 is now used by Dish to feed special programming for commercial MDUs. Not sure what the story is with 105, but either way, there's nothing there anymore for a residential customer.

105 and 121 are Ku-band, medium-powered FSS-class satellites, not high-powered DBS-class satellites, hence the larger dishes.

[Albie]

It's a Dish Network Superdish all right. Specifically, it's a "105" Superdish, designed to pick up 105, 110, and 119. There is another version that picks up 110, 119, and 121, using an LNB assembly that is a mirror image of the 105 LNB.

Both 105 and 121 locations are obsolete for residential use, and have been for a couple of years already. 121 is now used by Dish to feed special programming for commercial MDUs. Not sure what the story is with 105, but either way, there's nothing there anymore for a residential customer.

105 and 121 are Ku-band, medium-powered FSS-class satellites, not high-powered DBS-class satellites, hence the larger dishes.


Thanks for the info!

[neljtorres]

With two dishes I am picking up 110 and 123 galaxy18 with 119 a special bracket I made!;)

[Brandon428]

I only have one tiny Dish.

[Jason Nipp]

All I see is the dreaded red X. :crying:

I tried typing the picture URL directly into my browser, and got a message that I don't have permission to view that page. It looks like maybe you've stored the picture in a place that we mere mortals can't see it?Sorry, those super secret hiding spots I guess mortals can't see. :grin:

Here's the picture.

http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17383&stc=1&d=1234558623

[kevinturcotte]

Sorry, those super secret hiding spots I guess mortals can't see. :grin:

Here's the picture.

http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17383&stc=1&d=1234558623

What's the Dish Network dish with the 3 LNBs (Looks kind of like the Directv Phase II +)? And what are you picking up in the NE?

[Jason Nipp]

What's the Dish Network dish with the 3 LNBs (Looks kind of like the Directv Phase II +)? And what are you picking up in the NE?
That is a first generation Dish1000. But the larger one right above it also has three LNBF's and that is a SuperDish121.

I assume by "NE" you referencing the dish on the other side of the gable? That is a Motorola Canopy MMDS transceiver.

[kevinturcotte]

That is a first generation Dish1000. But the larger one right above it also has three LNBF's and that is a SuperDish121.

What's the NE dish pointed at? I though everything was in the S/SW?

[Jason Nipp]

What's the NE dish pointed at? I though everything was in the S/SW?
I assume by "NE" you referencing the dish on the other side of the gable? That is a Motorola Canopy MMDS transceiver.

Terrestrial MMDS services. T6 Ultrahigh Speed Wireless Broadband.

http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17384&stc=1&d=1234562100

[kevinturcotte]

I assume by "NE" you referencing the dish on the other side of the gable? That is a Motorola Canopy MMDS transceiver.

Terrestrial MMDS services. T6 Ultrahigh Speed Wireless Broadband.

http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17384&stc=1&d=1234562100

What location is that pointed at? Where's the satellite?

[Jason Nipp]

There is no satellite. It's terrestrial. It's looking at a Canopy tower.

Explanation, Canopy is a digital RF data system that Motorola developed for municipalities. This is the same system that relays data to ambulances or police vehicles. In certain areas, where municipalities may have extra bandwidth, they lease spectrum's out to ISPs for residential use.

In some rural areas, ISPs have actually invested in the equipment to offer MMDS services. Upto 21Mbps...Not cheap stuff.

Canopy Documentation (http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Business/Products/Wireless%20Broadband%20Networks/Point%20to%20Multi-point%20Networks/Canopy%20Products/Canopy/_Documents/static%20files/Canopy%20Overview%20Brouchure.pdf?localeId=33)