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curlyjive
02-12-09, 09:00 AM
Anyone else in the northeast see their dishes shake a bit in the high winds today? Do they tend to go out of line from this? Or is it just a bit of give from the plastic itself? Anyone have their dish rip out of their roofs?
The reason I am concerned is that I just had numerous tech visits and replacement dish and HDDVR and finally everything is working great.....but I am concerned these winds are going to knock the dish out of alignment and I'll have to start all over with tech support.
Mertzen
02-12-09, 09:17 AM
A properly mounted ka/ku dish shouldn't be moving at all. Does your dish have the two monopoles ?
curlyjive
02-12-09, 09:24 AM
A properly mounted ka/ku dish shouldn't be moving at all. Does your dish have the two monopoles ?
Yes it does, and the mount does not move at all. Just the actual dish shudders a bit during really high gusts. It doesn't move out of place or sway. I don't see how that could be avoided since the dish is somewhat of a wind foil.
Mertzen
02-12-09, 09:42 AM
Oh yeah, the dish is a bit 'flexible' so shudder it will. As long as all bolts are locked down tight there shouldn't be any problems.
curlyjive
02-12-09, 09:57 AM
Oh yeah, the dish is a bit 'flexible' so shudder it will. As long as all bolts are locked down tight there shouldn't be any problems.
Here's to hoping!:)
I've had higher winds than today, and the dish is rock solid. It all depends on how good a job your installer did.
dodge boy
02-12-09, 10:30 AM
I didn't notice mine doing anything last night (70mph winds).
The installer did a heck of a job on mine, if my house was hit by a tornado, the Satellite dish would be all that was left.
Matt9876
02-12-09, 11:11 AM
6 service calls so far today two dishes laying on the roof and four misaligned.
This storm blew over bill boards in east TN.:eek2:
BattleZone
02-12-09, 11:44 AM
Dishes are typically designed to withstand 75 MPH winds without issue (assuming proper installation), but over that and there are no guarentees.
curlyjive
02-12-09, 12:45 PM
I've had higher winds than today, and the dish is rock solid. It all depends on how good a job your installer did.
How is it possible that it doesn't even shake a tiny bit? I mean even if the mount is secure and all bolts are tight, the plastic has some give to it.
I don't know what else my installer could have done. The mount has been in place for over 3 years now. Only the dish was recently replaced and even at that the old one never went out of line, just had a bad LNB.
I have imagine a minimal amount of vibration from high wind gusts is unavoidable.
wallfishman
02-12-09, 12:56 PM
what plastic are you talking about??? the dishes we use are metal..
How is it possible that it doesn't even shake a tiny bit? I mean even if the mount is secure and all bolts are tight, the plastic has some give to it.
I don't know what else my installer could have done. The mount has been in place for over 3 years now. Only the dish was recently replaced and even at that the old one never went out of line, just had a bad LNB.
I have imagine a minimal amount of vibration from high wind gusts is unavoidable.
OH, it shakes a little. On extremely high gusts I might see a short split-second dropout. But it doesn't need re-aiming at the end.
curlyjive
02-12-09, 02:37 PM
OH, it shakes a little. On extremely high gusts I might see a short split-second dropout. But it doesn't need re-aiming at the end.
Ok, that seems completely reasonable:)
BattleZone
02-12-09, 02:40 PM
what plastic are you talking about??? the dishes we use are metal..
That's mostly true, but there have been some exceptions.
The Phase II dish, the "Gainmaster" dish, and the Andrew-manufactured International dish were all metal-impregnated plastic dishes. None of these have been installed in a couple of years, but plenty of them are still in use.
The more common dishes are steel that has been powder-coated, which is a powdered-plastic coating that is baked on.
David MacLeod
02-12-09, 03:02 PM
mine has taken 55-60 gusts with no signal loss. the lnb did vibrate VERY slightly just due to the length of arm, moment, etc. you could only tell it was vibrating if you were directly under it and looking.
JeffBowser
02-12-09, 03:18 PM
Mine rocks back and forth in the wind a tad (pole mount in the ground). Never made any difference. Survived 7 hurricanes\tropical storms in its current location, therefore, my advice to the OP is: relax.
Mertzen
02-12-09, 05:12 PM
Yeah it was crazy out there. Thank god my 6 TV job was only on first floor so my 28' was sturdy enough. If I had to extend the ladder I would have walked away.
From bad to worse.
I've had a Slimline now for 1.5 years.
It's mounted on a flat area of my roof (over a porch) with 3 monopoles.
Survived the first winter with no issues.
But the last few months, high winds have caused loss of numerous HD channels.
So I call D* and they send a guy out Wed.
He reinstalls the dish, even the grounding block to the house (when he cut the cables, I winced) and when he was done, it was perfect.
Yesterday, we got some wind and rain and with the exception of a short rain fade, everything was good.
So I get up this morning to strong winds and I'm not getting anything, no HD, no SD, not 1 channel. The old issue never affected any SDs, and not all HDs were gone.
I think I'm going to go up there to check it out closer. I can look out the window and see the LNB shaking.
BTW, this installer is the guy who did my first HD install and used S-Video cables to hook up the HD box to the TV (which I switched to component afterward) and then told me Wednesday, when he saw CNN's HD bars (since they were airing a SD program), that he could get rid of them.
I have a hunch, he did a poor job and set up the potential for a worse problem.
My service call was free from D* and I don't want to think the tech set it up so it would later fail and I'd have to call back for another service visit that would be charged to me.
Mertzen
04-04-09, 09:51 AM
My service call was free from D* and I don't want to think the tech set it up so it would later fail and I'd have to call back for another service visit that would be charged to me.
Don't think that since if you call back he will be charged back.
randyk47
04-04-09, 09:51 AM
My dish is absolutely rock solid but in very high winds, and the right angle, the LNB arm will vibrate just ever so slightly but no movement in the mount or pole. So slight that I've gone back in the house and watch the signal strengths with no change. Two years up and never had to adjust the aim. Had some roof work done just this past week and I had a chance to use the company's scaffolding to check the dish out to make sure all the hardware was still tight and it was. Eight hundred dollars of roof damage from a hail storm with high winds a month ago but Mr. Slimline is hanging in there.
I called D* and explained what happened.
First they said the next service call would not be free.
I said the tech screwed up the dish, I looked at it, it's pointing down and all my signal strengths are 0s.
The rep was very nice, transferred me to her supervisor. He told me they valued my business and would comp me the next service call.
Then later, I got a call from a nice guy from account services and he told me the quickest they could get to my house is Tuesday. I can live without D* for three days.
He also said they're bringing a new Slimline.
All I want it my dish to work in the wind, that said, I'm probably going to get the service plan on my monthly bill.
I'm still amazed, almost 10 years with D*, never 1 problem, now this. But I give them a lot of credit for the professional way they handled it. I told them how much I appreciated their help.
offrovin
04-04-09, 09:00 PM
Anyone else in the northeast see their dishes shake a bit in the high winds today?
Glad you asked about this as I've been wanting to. Not NE, but SW. We've had high winds & from the right direction, I've studied the LNB arm "shimmying" & have noticed the Slimline upper rim flex, or shimmy, a tiny bit. No detected movement in the mount, just the dish edge. Never had any loss of signal; was installed end of Jan. so who knows, long term. I'm with those who say a bit of flex is normal with certain wind speeds & direction.
dubber deux
04-04-09, 09:12 PM
My thought would be that a certain amount of "flex" is designed in so that it does not stress the lnb arm resulting in cracking or failure over time.
Anyone else in the northeast see their dishes shake a bit in the high winds today? Do they tend to go out of line from this? Or is it just a bit of give from the plastic itself? Anyone have their dish rip out of their roofs?
The reason I am concerned is that I just had numerous tech visits and replacement dish and HDDVR and finally everything is working great.....but I am concerned these winds are going to knock the dish out of alignment and I'll have to start all over with tech support.
Windy as all hell here for a few days. Some tree branches came down but the slimline dish didn't move. If yours moved, it probably wasn't properly installed in the 1st place.
hdtvfan0001
04-06-09, 10:57 AM
Our NorthEast friends are not alone on this....
...its also very windy in the SouthEast today...up to 50 MPH gusts. :eek2:
David MacLeod
04-06-09, 12:18 PM
gonna get that tonight, with 2 inches of rain due in a 3 hour period.
hdtvfan0001
04-06-09, 08:46 PM
That 150 lbs of concrete holding my Dish pole in place has paid off more than once (in these wind storms). :D
David MacLeod
04-07-09, 05:57 AM
55 mph gusts last night, whole house was shaking, dish was fine.
neighbors roofmount was tearing itself loose it looks like, 1 monopole is dangling now.
had a brief 771 due to rain (coming down over inch/hr) that lasted about 3 seconds. both tuners on all 3 units recovered immediately.
hdtvfan0001
04-07-09, 03:49 PM
55 mph gusts last night, whole house was shaking, dish was fine.
neighbors roofmount was tearing itself loose it looks like, 1 monopole is dangling now.
had a brief 771 due to rain (coming down over inch/hr) that lasted about 3 seconds. both tuners on all 3 units recovered immediately.
You guys have had a rough winter for sure (from what you've said before).
Glad to see that Dish take a lickin but keep on kickin...:D
I am amazed at how many people have trouble with this. I installed the 5lnb myself on my roof, no monopoles, just bolted firmly to the rafters. In over two years I have yet to even touch it and it gets very windy out there, I have had fencing down but never a problem with my channels, no drop-outs, nothing.
The only problem I have is when freezing rain sticks to the dish, it's too high up to do anything about it. I have to wait for the sun to come out and melt it.
Remember people, bolt it down firmly and make sure its not just on the plywood but in a rafter.
David MacLeod
04-08-09, 09:35 AM
You guys have had a rough winter for sure (from what you've said before).
Glad to see that Dish take a lickin but keep on kickin...:D
actually got up to 3.5 inches that night, old slimline plugged away with no issues :) just that 1 brief 771 due to clouds so thick I had to lift them off the dish :)
all recordings were fine.
I am amazed at how many people have trouble with this. I installed the 5lnb myself on my roof, no monopoles, just bolted firmly to the rafters. In over two years I have yet to even touch it and it gets very windy out there, I have had fencing down but never a problem with my channels, no drop-outs, nothing.
The only problem I have is when freezing rain sticks to the dish, it's too high up to do anything about it. I have to wait for the sun to come out and melt it.
Remember people, bolt it down firmly and make sure its not just on the plywood but in a rafter.
I also have no monopoles. When I had my house resided, I had them add a block of 2X12 to the corner of my house above the deck for mounting my dish. When I upgraded to HD, the tech didn't want to install the new dish there but I advised him that was where it was going. I have wide open spaces to the west of my house and plenty of wind gusts in the 60 MPH range with no issues.
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