View Full Version : Setting DVR via Internet
festivus
02-18-09, 06:29 AM
Are we yet able to do this? I've been reading about it for some time but I can't figure it out. I can log onto www.dishonline and to www.dishnetwork but I see nowhere that I can program the dvr. Am I looking in the wrong spot? And if I remember correctly I don't think that I can set it up on the dvr yet. Something about naming the dvr that I believe isn't functional.
http://dish.sling.com
It is still in Beta but I hear people are getting invited very quick these days.
faiello
02-18-09, 08:23 AM
http://dish.sling.com
It is still in Beta but I hear people are getting invited very quick these days.
Works great, started using it this week.
bobukcat
02-18-09, 08:32 AM
Works great, started using it this week.
+1, I've almost completely stopped using the remote to find and set timers / recordings since getting the account setup!
tcatdbs
02-18-09, 09:05 AM
Do you have to have a Slingbox for this? Not any info on that link page. I have an internet connection on my 722, sure seems it should be doable without Sling.
http://dish.sling.com
It is still in Beta but I hear people are getting invited very quick these days.
Works great so far on my 622. What I don't know is if the connection from the 622 will stay active or if I will have to reset it often. I had to do a connection reset when I signed up.
HobbyTalk
02-18-09, 09:11 AM
You do not need a Slingbox to use the SlingGuide. Just a VIP622/722 (all it supports at this time).
dbrakob
02-18-09, 09:37 AM
Is this feature an add-on to 6.17 (I have a 722) or does it totally change your user interfac guide? I would love to try it but my wife hates "changes" and "complicated" TV menus. If you don't like it is it easy to revert back to original user interface? Also, TV2 is used by a 8 yo and 10 yo. Would they have to use the sling interface also and would it be hard for a youngster to learn? Although I think they could learn faster than the wife. We were at a hotel this weekend and they kept trying to FF thru the commercials.:lol:
It doesn't change anything on the interface guide. Everything works and looks as it does now. The online interface is in addition to the regular guide and you can manipulate the DVR functions with it.
archer75
02-18-09, 09:07 PM
I seem to recall there being a beta site you could go to for online scheduling of recordings on your DVR.
Was this an invite only thing? If not can someone provide the link?
James Long
02-18-09, 09:17 PM
See above: http://dish.sling.com/
HDlover
02-19-09, 12:05 AM
Won't work with a 612?
HobbyTalk
02-19-09, 07:24 AM
From reports not yet.
TheFoxMan
02-19-09, 10:06 AM
You do not need a Slingbox to use the SlingGuide. Just a VIP622/722 (all it supports at this time).
Please clarify internet link to ViPX22... via satellite or DVR internet connection? I suspect the latter, but hope for the former.
HobbyTalk
02-19-09, 10:19 AM
You need to have the VIP622/722 connected to the Internet via the ethernet port. That is the only way the receiver can communicate back to the SlingGuide.
Bobby Bearcat
02-19-09, 11:04 AM
Thanks Guys..
I just set it up on both my 622 and 722 and it works flawless.
Even via my phone... :)
renpar61
02-20-09, 12:13 PM
I set up my 622 yesterday, but it was quite a struggle. It seems like the system has a hard time finding the connection with the receiver. I got frequent messages saying my receiver seems not to be connected, while the diagnostics on the 622 showed "Connected Online". It took several attempts before I was able to get the activation code and complete the registration. I was then able to connect to the guide and set a recording for a movie (I'll check tonight when I go home if it worked), but I am still having trouble connecting. The nickname of my receiver shows up almost immediately but I get stuck on the "waiting for connection" message.
I the 622 connected wirelessly to my router via a Logitech ethernet bridge box (I forgot the name of the model, but it's the one usually sold for gaming consoles). Could this be the cause? Any settings in the router I should look for?
I don't see any troubleshooting options on the Sling page...
TheFoxMan
02-20-09, 02:54 PM
I set up my 622 yesterday, but it was quite a struggle. It seems like the system has a hard time finding the connection with the receiver. I got frequent messages saying my receiver seems not to be connected, while the diagnostics on the 622 showed "Connected Online". It took several attempts before I was able to get the activation code and complete the registration. I was then able to connect to the guide and set a recording for a movie (I'll check tonight when I go home if it worked), but I am still having trouble connecting. The nickname of my receiver shows up almost immediately but I get stuck on the "waiting for connection" message.
I the 622 connected wirelessly to my router via a Logitech ethernet bridge box (I forgot the name of the model, but it's the one usually sold for gaming consoles). Could this be the cause? Any settings in the router I should look for?
I don't see any troubleshooting options on the Sling page...
Same here... ViP722 shows "Connected Online" but I get the error message "Your DISH DVR does not apper to be online" when attempting to enable web service -- retried several times, but no joy. No problem getting the DVR online with an ethernet connection to my router, but no luck with SlingGuide.
IceHogs
02-20-09, 03:08 PM
I set up my 622 yesterday, but it was quite a struggle. It seems like the system has a hard time finding the connection with the receiver. I got frequent messages saying my receiver seems not to be connected, while the diagnostics on the 622 showed "Connected Online". It took several attempts before I was able to get the activation code and complete the registration. I was then able to connect to the guide and set a recording for a movie (I'll check tonight when I go home if it worked), but I am still having trouble connecting. The nickname of my receiver shows up almost immediately but I get stuck on the "waiting for connection" message.
I the 622 connected wirelessly to my router via a Logitech ethernet bridge box (I forgot the name of the model, but it's the one usually sold for gaming consoles). Could this be the cause? Any settings in the router I should look for?
I don't see any troubleshooting options on the Sling page...
I have my 722 connected to a Linksys router (using DD-WRT firmware) configured as a wireless bridge. It bridges to a Zyxel wireless router which goes through a firewall to get to the Internet. To my surprise I was able to configure and connect to the SlingGuide flawlessly.
HobbyTalk
02-20-09, 03:09 PM
There was some discussion in another thread (not sure where) that some were using a certain model of router that had VPN built-in that they were having problems with. They changed a setting in the router and it then worked OK.
Lostinspace
02-20-09, 06:16 PM
My 722 is attached to a Linksys WET54G wireless bridge which connects to a Linksys WRT54GL router. In order to use Sling Guide it was necessary to forward port 5001 through the firewall to the IP address of the bridge.
kpaustin
02-21-09, 12:23 PM
Set up both my 622s today. Very impressive. Small glitch when first tuning to an OTA channel, but a power cycle cleared things up. Both are hooked up to the interwebs through a Linksys WRT54G (each with one hop through a switch) and Time Warner Broadband. Only small issue is you can't see the EHD on either one, but that might be irrelevant. Gonna see what setting up the Slingbox Pro I have on one does for me next.
TheFoxMan
02-21-09, 04:15 PM
There was some discussion in another thread (not sure where) that some were using a certain model of router that had VPN built-in that they were having problems with. They changed a setting in the router and it then worked OK.
Problem solved... my Motorola SBG900 cable modem is a combo modem/wireless router, which feeds my "real" router (D-Link DIR-625) -- all it took was to disable the cable modem firewall since my router firewall and ZoneAlarm provide plenty of protection. I didn't even need to muck with router settings as reported in some postings (port forwarding on 5001). So life in the SlingGuide world is now good, at least on my home network... only time will tell if it remains good when I try logging on from my corporate network or a friends home pc.
Update: just remote-connected to my office pc, and SlingGuide works fine with my VPN and company firewall, so maybe the Dish SlingGuide will behave well in most network environments.
HobbyTalk
02-21-09, 04:46 PM
Port forwarding should not be needed with the way SlingGuide works.
Lostinspace
02-21-09, 05:02 PM
Port forwarding should not be needed with the way SlingGuide works.
Apparently you are correct. When I originally set up SlingGuide it didn't work without the port forward, but now it does. :confused:
SATL382G
02-21-09, 05:25 PM
Thanks folks. Works flawlessly on my 722.
James Long
02-21-09, 08:12 PM
Port forwarding should not be needed with the way SlingGuide works.It SHOULD not be required but in some people's systems it seems their security blocks out the connection. Perhaps the firewall has trouble making the connection back to the receiver? It works fine with my firewall so I have not had to adjust anything.
(I did punch a hole in the firewall for my SlingBox but that is separate from the SlingGuide.)
I'm wondering if someone knows how this technology really works, because I'm really surprised at something. I set it up on my 722 with an Ethernet connection and got it to work just fine. I then removed the Ethernet connection for a few days (I actually was using that connection on another DVR in my house, one that wasn't compatible for SlingGuide, a 510, and moved it back). To my amazement the SlingGuide on my 722 contiued to work just fine, and I could schedule recordings and see exactly how much time was left on my DVR, and could control watching with the receiver itself by using my iPhone as a remote control for pausing, rewinding, etc. I guess I thought that the internet connect was used for communicating with the receiver, but apparently it was only initially needed to get it setup. I'm guessing that all commands to the receiver get sent via Dish itself, but the long and short of it is that Ethernet itself needed for ongoing communication as far as I can tell. Does someone understand this better than me (wouldn't take much).
Next, I did decide to move my SlingBox classic over to my 722 from the 510, but I'm unable to watch anything via the internet within SlingGuide. I can watch TV via Sling.Com, so I know everything's fine with internet viewing in general, but in SlingGuide whenever I specify "Watch on Web" it brings up the blank viewing screen and does nothing. Are others getting "Watch on Web" to work?
HobbyTalk
02-22-09, 12:07 PM
Did you enter your Slingbox Finder ID in the SlingGuide?
Did you enter your Slingbox Finder ID in the SlingGuide?
Yes I did. At first I didn't realize I had to do that, but when I did it took the Slingbox fine and shows its name on the "edit receiver" listing. Does it work for you?
HobbyTalk
02-22-09, 04:06 PM
Yes, it works for me. You have the username and password entered?
http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17382&d=1234495023
Well, I at first tried just using "guest" with no luck. Then I tried "admin" with what I believe is the right password - also with no luck. I'm not really sure where you specify a userid and password on the SlingBox other than the admin one. Did you specify admin or guest?
HobbyTalk
02-22-09, 07:13 PM
I used my guest log-in. If you run the install wizard on the SlingPlayer software you can set both an admin and a guest log-in. The guest log-in only allows watching, changing channels etc. but allows no slingbox settings to be changed. I only use the admin log-in if I need to change some settings on the SlingBox.
Hmm. I went through the setup again, set a viewing only login password, and specified that as guest in SlingGuide, but still no luck. It must be something else, especially since everything works fine on sling.com. Any other ideas?
James Long
02-22-09, 07:39 PM
Are you able to use the Sling software to connect to your Slingbox via the internet (from work or a friend's house)?
The plugin wants to feed the video via the internet ... so if you have not punched a hole in your firewall for normal Slingbox streaming the web plugin will not work. Do the Internet setup part of the SlingBox program.
kpaustin
02-22-09, 09:04 PM
I seem to have the same issue, a SlingBox Pro connected to a Vip622, and it doesn't bring up the web stream. I used guest and admin, and I can see the SlingBox from the web...and I double checked my router port forwarding...everything is in order. Also just updated the firmware on the SlingBox the other day. When I look in Preferences at the Receivers tab, the one shows a Slingbox and the ID is correct. I'll keep trying.
HobbyTalk
02-22-09, 09:11 PM
I don't have any other suggestions. Mine just worked when I set it up.
Are you able to use the Sling software to connect to your Slingbox via the internet (from work or a friend's house)?
The plugin wants to feed the video via the internet ... so if you have not punched a hole in your firewall for normal Slingbox streaming the web plugin will not work. Do the Internet setup part of the SlingBox program.
Well, it works fine in sling.com, so I know from that that internet viewing is working properly within my browser. It's just that it doesn't work in SlingGuide.
kpaustin
02-22-09, 09:24 PM
OK, I guess Safari on OSX is not supported. I just loaded WinXP in VMWare and used Internet Explorer, and it works. Didn't see that in the FAQ.
HobbyTalk
02-22-09, 11:39 PM
I believe it uses an ActiveX plug-in so it won't work on a Mac.
bobukcat
02-23-09, 07:31 AM
I'm wondering if someone knows how this technology really works, because I'm really surprised at something. I set it up on my 722 with an Ethernet connection and got it to work just fine. I then removed the Ethernet connection for a few days (I actually was using that connection on another DVR in my house, one that wasn't compatible for SlingGuide, a 510, and moved it back). To my amazement the SlingGuide on my 722 contiued to work just fine, and I could schedule recordings and see exactly how much time was left on my DVR, and could control watching with the receiver itself by using my iPhone as a remote control for pausing, rewinding, etc. I guess I thought that the internet connect was used for communicating with the receiver, but apparently it was only initially needed to get it setup. I'm guessing that all commands to the receiver get sent via Dish itself, but the long and short of it is that Ethernet itself needed for ongoing communication as far as I can tell. Does someone understand this better than me (wouldn't take much).
If either of my 622s aren't connected to the internet it never completes the login and says that my receiver(s) are off-line.
ImBack234
02-23-09, 08:31 AM
If either of my 622s aren't connected to the internet it never completes the login and says that my receiver(s) are off-line.
What page do you get that on? All I can find is its looking to connect to my slingbox which I don't have one. But I do have a 622.
I got it. For those that didn't try this and follow the steps.
http://www.slingmedia.com/go/slingguide
Is a SlingBox needed?
I signed up for an account at dish.sling.com but I don't see how to set up my 722 DVR. The video somebody linked to above (this forum says I can't post a URL yet) doesn't show how to set it up, only how to use it.
What am I missing?
bobukcat
02-27-09, 04:14 PM
Is a SlingBox needed?
I signed up for an account at dish.sling.com but I don't see how to set up my 722 DVR. The video somebody linked to above (this forum says I can't post a URL yet) doesn't show how to set it up, only how to use it.
What am I missing?
:welcome_s
If you get accepted into the Beta you will receive an e-mail message with all the instructions on how to set it up. It's very minimal from the 622/722 side you just go in and do the web-activation after you enter your RCV ID number(s) into the SlingGuide site.
Is a SlingBox needed?Not for program scheduling.
Your ViP box needs an always-on connection to the Internet.
:welcome_s
If you get accepted into the Beta you will receive an e-mail message with all the instructions on how to set it up. It's very minimal from the 622/722 side you just go in and do the web-activation after you enter your RCV ID number(s) into the SlingGuide site.
Thanks...
I signed up for the beta at dish.sling.com and got an email with the subject "SlingGuide Invitation". It had only a link to confirm the email address. I then created an account and got an email with the subject "Your new Sling Account". This second email just had links to login, a link to a help page that says nothing about DVRs, a link to update my account information and a link to the privacy policy.
From the account information page, it lets me enter a Slingbox ID and Name, but I don't know if I would enter the receiver information there and what ID and Name I would enter.
Nowhere have I found any instructions on entering DVR or receiver information, or where to find the information to enter (Dish receiver serial number?).
Walter Knott
02-27-09, 04:46 PM
Have 2-722's. Both are registered on DishSling.com and can schedule both on-line with no problem. Quite nice.. my daughter is at college and comes home on some weekend and she adjusts what she wants to record from her dorm room. :)
And, BTW, I do have my 722 connected via ethernet to broadband (DSL).
archer75
02-27-09, 05:31 PM
Thanks...
I signed up for the beta at dish.sling.com and got an email with the subject "SlingGuide Invitation". It had only a link to confirm the email address. I then created an account and got an email with the subject "Your new Sling Account". This second email just had links to login, a link to a help page that says nothing about DVRs, a link to update my account information and a link to the privacy policy.
From the account information page, it lets me enter a Slingbox ID and Name, but I don't know if I would enter the receiver information there and what ID and Name I would enter.
Nowhere have I found any instructions on entering DVR or receiver information, or where to find the information to enter (Dish receiver serial number?).
You log in and it should be on the following page. Asks you for receiver number(hit menu twice), shows you how to get it, shows on the next page how to get the web activiation code and then you're done.
Don't use the email links. Just go direct to the site and log in.
It walked me right through it. Couldn't be easier.
Typing in the URL did the trick...
Thank you very much!
OK, I finally found the problem with not being able to view my SlingBox on SlingGuide, while I could watch it fine in sling.com and on the Sling PC application. I had never set up my SlingBox for remote viewing. When I did that everything worked fine. Just thought I'd pass that along.
fmcomputer
03-02-09, 04:29 PM
SlingGuide works great.. It only list Local Stations. Is this normal..
bobukcat
03-03-09, 07:16 AM
SlingGuide works great.. It only list Local Stations. Is this normal..
Only lists local stations where? Can you be more specific about what view you are in, check your filters and also check that when you double click into the details of an event there may be a drop down box with the time, date and channel listed. If you click the drop-down it will list other channels, dates, times, etc. that event occurs on.
For instance, if you have LIL and OTA only one instance of the event may show in grid view but if you click into the details there will be a drop-down where you can select to record off of LIL or OTA (and maybe another completely different channel).
kucharsk
03-05-09, 12:40 AM
It can't see my 722, probably because it's double-NATed, and attempts to connect from outside will never work.
Instead, the 722 needs to be able to pull timer changes, like my S3 TiVo that works just fine on the same network.
Of course the 722's network connection works just fine for "checking in" with DISH as well.
I am on a double NAT and have no problems
It can't see my 722, probably because it's double-NATed, and attempts to connect from outside will never work.You've failed somewhere along the line if it isn't working.
There needs to be two-way communications in order to allow you to inventory your existing recordings as well as identifying conflicts.
Dario33
03-05-09, 09:03 AM
Awesome -- will have to enable this when I get home tonight (not sure of my DVR ID off-hand).
kucharsk
03-06-09, 06:43 AM
Rereading the thread, it's apparently my operating system.
I own several computers, but none have Windows installed, so I guess no Sling for me…
bobukcat
03-06-09, 07:18 AM
Rereading the thread, it's apparently my operating system.
I own several computers, but none have Windows installed, so I guess no Sling for me…
Unless you have an Iphone or Ipod Touch, that would be correct (for now anyway).
4HiMarks
03-06-09, 07:27 AM
Rereading the thread, it's apparently my operating system.
I own several computers, but none have Windows installed, so I guess no Sling for me…
That doesn't make sense. It is web-based, so as long as you have a web browser, it shouldn't matter what OS it is running on unless they stupidly, deliberately, disable it for non-Windows OSs. (There are ways around that though).
That doesn't make sense. It is web-based, so as long as you have a web browser, it shouldn't matter what OS it is running on unless they stupidly, deliberately, disable it for non-Windows OSs. (There are ways around that though).Don't assume that this is a Java viewer plug-in because it isn't. I suspect that it is closely tied to having a particular revision level of the SlingPlayer software installed as I don't get remote control with my W2K machine.
Dario33
03-06-09, 11:56 AM
I set up my DVR last night and was able to access via Slingguide just fine. However, today I am unable to access via Slingguild now that I am not at home.
Perhaps issue because I am not on my home network, but Slingguide sees my DVR as offline despite the fact that I set it up yesterday.
HobbyTalk
03-06-09, 12:13 PM
Does the internet connection test pass using SlingPlayer?
4HiMarks
03-06-09, 06:09 PM
Don't assume that this is a Java viewer plug-in because it isn't. I suspect that it is closely tied to having a particular revision level of the SlingPlayer software installed as I don't get remote control with my W2K machine.
I did not install any software. I just registered on the site, and everything runs in my browser.
kucharsk
03-09-09, 05:15 PM
That doesn't make sense. It is web-based, so as long as you have a web browser, it shouldn't matter what OS it is running on unless they stupidly, deliberately, disable it for non-Windows OSs. (There are ways around that though).
A post above mentioned it relies on ActiveX controls, which don't exist for anything but Windows.
4HiMarks
03-10-09, 08:44 AM
A post above mentioned it relies on ActiveX controls, which don't exist for anything but Windows.
True, but only IE supports them fully, and I have no trouble with it in Firefox, Opera, or Safari. I also looked at the source code, and didn't see any ActiveX. Lots of javascript, and some Flash, but nothing that appeared specific to a particular OS.
tnsprin
03-10-09, 08:46 AM
I would recommend that more discussion about the sling beta be made in this other thread.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=149656
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