View Full Version : New Channel has been added - (Ion West)
robmadden1
03-25-09, 06:20 AM
347 Ion West
d max82
03-25-09, 07:05 AM
YaY! Incase I miss an infomercial I can watch it 3 hours later!!!!!
B. Shoe
03-25-09, 07:37 AM
Well, nothing like a few chances to DVR episodes of Quantum Leap and The Drew Carey Show! :) But I'm pretty disappointed that this channel isn't in HD! JUST KIDDING Nothing like being able to watch the P90X infomercial in high definition!
DodgerKing
03-25-09, 07:43 AM
Well, nothing like a few chances to DVR episodes of Quantum Leap and The Drew Carey Show! :) But I'm pretty disappointed that this channel isn't in HD! JUST KIDDING Nothing like being able to watch the P90X infomercial in high definition!
Big whoop for us here in LA. This is the exact same channel showing the exact same programs at the exact same time as the one we get locally (it is just a mirror or our local channel 30).
kfcrosby
03-25-09, 08:17 AM
Sad that this get classified as a new channel....
say-what
03-25-09, 08:21 AM
Why?
So now I get my local version of ion, an exact duplicate in the national version already provided and a 2nd national version of the same thing time-shifted for the west coast - none of which I ever watch. I really don't understand how ion even manages to survive.....much less deserve so much bandwidth. :)
garn9173
03-25-09, 09:29 AM
YaY! Incase I miss an infomercial I can watch it 3 hours later!!!!!
:lol:
Greg Alsobrook
03-25-09, 09:36 AM
I have edited the title of the thread to show the new channel name.
Thanks for the news robmadden! :)
Doug Brott
03-25-09, 09:48 AM
You can check out the ION Television Website here:
http://www.iontelevision.com
machavez00
03-25-09, 10:03 AM
Big whoop for us here in LA. This is the exact same channel showing the exact same programs at the exact same time as the one we get locally (it is just a mirror or our local channel 30).
The Phoenix DMA does not get the local Ion channel. We get the east coast feed when we tune to 51.
QuickDrop
03-25-09, 10:14 AM
I guess we now know where the money from the price increase went.
Doug Brott
03-25-09, 10:23 AM
I guess we now know where the money from the price increase went.
I'm not sure what the case is for this particular channel, but you do realize that some channels actually pay to be on DIRECTV (vs. DIRECTV paying for it). So it's entirely conceivable that this channel kept the price increase lower than it otherwise would have been.
Shades228
03-25-09, 10:28 AM
I figured we would start seeing a couple of west coast feeds popping up for channels that used to be in every local market and were switched to the national feed. This will still allow people who like those shows to get them on their time zone.
QuickDrop
03-25-09, 10:28 AM
I'm not sure what the case is for this particular channel, but you do realize that some channels actually pay to be on DIRECTV (vs. DIRECTV paying for it). So it's entirely conceivable that this channel kept the price increase lower than it otherwise would have been.
It was a joke.
bluegras
03-25-09, 10:29 AM
maybe they would give us qubo and ion life also.
Big whoop for us here in LA. This is the exact same channel showing the exact same programs at the exact same time as the one we get locally (it is just a mirror or our local channel 30).
I concur, this really doesn't make sense for us here in the L.A. DMA. If there going to do this they should at least give us ION east in the local line-up on channel 30 and ION west on 347. The way it is now we have two ION west feeds (or else it's simply mapped over) on both channels 30 and 347. This is as silly as receiving the the big four networks on both local spotbeams and the CONUS DNS beams in the 380s-390s here in L.A. and the New York markets.
Ridicules...:nono2:
Wait a minute, my local ION has 5 digital subchannels.
Why aren't they on the satellite? :lol:
ION West showed up in the guide (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2039005&postcount=235) when the guide was messed up on Saturday night. At the time, it was still pointed to a PPV channel. I expected to see it added by July 14th, but not this soon.
billsharpe
03-25-09, 11:22 AM
ION West showed up in the guide (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2039005&postcount=235) when the guide was messed up on Saturday night. At the time, it was still pointed to a PPV channel. I expected to see it added by July 14th, but not this soon.
The new good stuff comes in July 14th; ION gets here right away. :nono2:
hdthebest
03-25-09, 11:25 AM
Now I am happy what a day for D* this is bigger than any new HD launch. Wow having ION both in east and West versions...Ok enough with the sarcasm give us some more HD please
Whats with this July 14th date?
Whats with this July 14th date?On Saturday night, there was a guide error where the guide said "To Be Announced" for all channels on some receivers and had the date in the guide set to July 14th (see this thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=154768)). During that data glitch, ION West showed up in the guide, so I assumed it was scheduled to be added by July 14th.
OK thanks. I just rebooted my machine, all guide data was blank for me on Sat.
but since we got ION today, does that make today July 14th?
If so, I don't remember my Honeymoon in Italy. That sucks.
hbkbiggestfan
03-25-09, 04:33 PM
ION West? Who cares? Bring on WGN HD!!!
Not only is ION a waste of precious DirecTV bandwidth, it is so very much more a total WASTE of the much more rare local OTA bandwidth.
Infomercials, Grade Z reruns, and preachers. Worthless.
dodge boy
03-25-09, 06:43 PM
Sorry but I DVR Quantum Leap every night and catch reruns of Boston Legal... Not a total waste. Just because some of you don't appreciate a good channel don't bash it. It's way more usefull than say, the golf channel or some stupid "gay" soccer game, or a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. And it is way better than Fox News or Fox Business, those channels should be shut down completely.
Kheldar
03-25-09, 07:00 PM
Sorry but I DVR Quantum Leap every night and catch reruns of Boston Legal... Not a total waste. Just because some of you don't appreciate a good channel don't bash it. It's way more usefull than say, the golf channel or some stupid "gay" soccer game, or a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. And it is way better than Fox News or Fox Business, those channels should be shut down completely.
Dude, tell us how you really feel! :rolleyes:
You have a point, though.
Big whoop for us here in LA. This is the exact same channel showing the exact same programs at the exact same time as the one we get locally (it is just a mirror or our local channel 30).
I concur, this really doesn't make sense for us here in the L.A. DMA.
I know it may be hard to believe, but there is life outside of the L.A. DMA. :rolleyes: There are actually a few people that live in areas where there isn't a local ION affiliate.
So, for the few people that live outside of L.A., having 2 feeds of ION might be useful.
Sorry but I DVR Quantum Leap every night and catch reruns of Boston Legal... Not a total waste. Just because some of you don't appreciate a good channel don't bash it. It's way more usefull than say, the golf channel or some stupid "gay" soccer game, or a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. And it is way better than Fox News or Fox Business, those channels should be shut down completely.Hmm...
Something happened to this post.
It was a more interesting before editing. :lol:
Not sure that I've ever actually watched ION. :confused:
I wrote earlier in part:
I concur, this really doesn't make sense for us here in the L.A. DMA....
Kheldar responded:
I know it may be hard to believe, but there is life outside of the L.A. DMA. :rolleyes: There are actually a few people that live in areas where there isn't a local ION affiliate.
So, for the few people that live outside of L.A., having 2 feeds of ION might be useful.
No I don't find it hard to believe, and I don't think you carefully read what I wrote. My complaint was in the L.A. DMA we are now getting two channels of IONwest on channels 30 and 347 instead of a sensible east and west coast feed like other markets. I actually enjoy watching Quantum Leap on ION, it was one of my favorite shows during the late 80's and early 90's.
Brandon428
03-25-09, 07:42 PM
I wrote earlier in part:
Kheldar responded:
No I don't find it hard to believe, and I don't think you carefully read what I wrote. My complaint was in the L.A. DMA we are now getting two channels of IONwest on channels 30 and 347 instead of a sensible east and west coast feed like other markets. I actually enjoy watching Quantum Leap on ION, it was one of my favorite shows during the late 80's and early 90's.
LOL,I thought I was the only one who still watched Quantum Leap.
scottchez
03-25-09, 08:00 PM
Why in the world did they NOT put ION east and west together on the guide like Nick east and west or HBO east and west?
Sorry if this was already asked, had to ask again. Maybe DirecTV will read this and get a clue
juventuz
03-25-09, 10:13 PM
Sorry but I DVR Quantum Leap every night and catch reruns of Boston Legal... Not a total waste. Just because some of you don't appreciate a good channel don't bash it. It's way more usefull than say, the golf channel or some stupid "gay" soccer game, or a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. And it is way better than Fox News or Fox Business, those channels should be shut down completely.
Reading the ignorance of others always makes my day a bit brighter.
skihoodoo
03-26-09, 12:02 AM
in the Portland, OR market last week our virtual ion station changed from 22 to 23 and was still the east feed then sometime this morning 23 became the west feed and 22 looks to be an HD Feed of our local ion station that launched hd yesterday ota and directv site seems to confirm this
what a waste of bandwidth.
OK well...
I think I figured it out, for the L.A. DMA anyhow...
IONeast is on channel 305; Network ID 0; Tp 8 of the 101 satellite group, CONUS beam.
IONwest is on channel 347; Transponder mapping data obviously unknown as of yet.
Local KPXN-TV Rancho Cucamonga, CA. on channel 30; Network ID 624; Tp. 8 of the satellite 101 group, CONUS beam. Has the same programming as IONwest
Though I wonder if the local station here KPXN's signal actually serves as the nationwide feed for IONwest since their signal is on a CONUS beam?
sigma1914
03-26-09, 06:02 AM
There sure are a lot of people mad over a channel. I'm sure there are channels you like that others think are a "waste."
MIKE0616
03-26-09, 06:08 AM
maybe they would give us qubo and ion life also.
If you want to get those channels, simply move to the Louisville DMA and get them, along with 3 other digital sub-channels on the local ION station. :lol:
Seriously, I may not watch much, if anything they have on their "channels", but at least I do have to say the local ION has made use of the digital waves much better than any of the other commercial OTA channels has so far (PBS was up to all 6, now back to 4 "channels" in use.) The local NBC affiliate now is running THIS and a local Weather channel, CBS is using multiple channels to cover the NCAA tourney, but all the others have their ".1" spaces being used and the others all vacant.
PS: IIRC, IONLife is allold movies, ala MGM channel and Qubo is a pretty good kids programming channel, so they do sound like they would be good adds to D* for lots of people and families.
man_rob
03-26-09, 06:42 AM
I'm sure glad they gave this channel priority over any new HD channels...:rolleyes:
With the vast majority of its schedule being nothing but infomercials, the question begs: why -- and what the heck are they thinking?
Doug Brott
03-26-09, 08:27 AM
With the vast majority of its schedule being nothing but infomercials, the question begs: why -- and what the heck are they thinking?
ION TV is very likely paying DIRECTV to be in that slot (I don't know this for a fact, BTW). So the "why" would be to help keep your bill lower .. and believe it or not some people actually watch these infomercials. If not, why else do they keep being shown?
man_rob
03-26-09, 09:01 AM
ION TV is very likely paying DIRECTV to be in that slot (I don't know this for a fact, BTW). So the "why" would be to help keep your bill lower .. and believe it or not some people actually watch these infomercials. If not, why else do they keep being shown?
This seems like a pretty far fetched theory.
Frrrunkis!
03-26-09, 10:38 AM
Sorry but I DVR Quantum Leap every night and catch reruns of Boston Legal... Not a total waste. Just because some of you don't appreciate a good channel don't bash it. It's way more usefull than say, the golf channel or some stupid "gay" soccer game, or a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. And it is way better than Fox News or Fox Business, those channels should be shut down completely.
Keith Olbermann...is that you? :grin:
dodge boy
03-26-09, 12:32 PM
Hmm...
Something happened to this post.
It was a more interesting before editing. :lol:
Not sure that I've ever actually watched ION. :confused:
Yeah after I posted it I read it and decided I didn't want to get banned.....
dodge boy
03-26-09, 12:37 PM
Keith Olbermann...is that you? :grin:
No!! Don't care for him either......... :p
I was just listing channels that I have blocked on my receivers is all....
I know a lot of people who love Fox, that's why I said that.....
In all reality I think EVERY CHANNEL should be available and EVERY CHANNEL should be HD....
I just love to rant... Because there are 2 sides to every coin and because I do watch a couple of shows on there.... When the Cleveland cahnnel (23) goes digital they can take it off the satellite then and only then.... :lol:
dhhaines
03-26-09, 01:49 PM
It does look like ION is trying to get into the game with better programming.
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/03/ion_looks_to_original_movies_t.php
I don't think I've watched this network in a couple of years though.
In all reality I think EVERY CHANNEL should be available and EVERY CHANNEL should be HD....
True, but with the large quantity 4:3 SD programming still in use for the foreseeable future, what real difference would it make for HD viewers? It still amounts to a lot of up-converted SD shows in 4:3 side-box, or worse window-box at times, whether its broadcast by the station on an HD channel or done by the HD TV set to an incoming 4:3 signal.
And I must say with HDTV sets coming down in price and more people getting them, I can't believe the trouble I'm having trying to repeatedly explain to friends and family the issue with the matte bars for 4:3 programs. They don't seem to understand and expect a full screen HD picture for everything including a lot of their favorite shows that are still only in 4:3.
Talk of "aspect ratios," and "up-converted 4:3" is like speaking Greek to a lot of them. And God-forbid don't let any show appear as window-boxed due to the original signal being in 4:3 letter-box as this particularly irks them.
Frrrunkis!
03-26-09, 05:17 PM
No!! Don't care for him either......... :p
I was just listing channels that I have blocked on my receivers is all....
I know a lot of people who love Fox, that's why I said that.....
Oh, so you're Anderson Cooper...:)
Kidding of course.
flipper2006
03-26-09, 05:18 PM
AWESOME, i cant get enough of informericals.. YAHOOOOOOOOOO!
Hutchinshouse
03-26-09, 05:48 PM
Awesome, now that this channel is off the "to-do list", perhaps DIRECTV can work on getting Trave........................................, oh never mind. I give up!
Tele-TV
03-26-09, 06:20 PM
^^ Your hilarious! when it comes to Trav.....
Besides me and 'Loudo,' I think your the most outspoken member on...... ;)
There sure are a lot of people mad over a channel. I'm sure there are channels you like that others think are a "waste."
I'm going to try to answer that. The problem with ION is that it is a BROADCAST (OTA) channel. Broadcast bandwidth is very limited, even in the largest markets, and especially in mid-sized markets (like mine) or small markets. And OTA channels get special must carry rights, forceing their way onto cable over other channels that more people desire, and now taking up two prescious slots on DirecTV (as a deal to avoid must-carrying it a hundred times across the country).
All for a channel that gets 0.0000000001 ratings. A channel that, if it competed flat-footed with channels like Nick or USA or Spike and so on, would not be thought of, and in fact, probably would have gone broke long ago.
Think of what a serious effort at "serving the public as a public trustee" could do with those hundreds of broadcast channels, rather than show Grade Z reruns, infomercials, and preachers, with no local content at all.
Shades228
03-26-09, 09:20 PM
This reduced bandwidth actually like I stated earlier. It's taking the place of the areas where the local version is no longer being carried. Now instead of having the station on spot beam transponders it's on a national feed and then reassigned into a local station number.
djzack67
03-26-09, 09:27 PM
Well at lease we got something new....LOL
dubber deux
03-28-09, 03:34 PM
I've looked at the programming content on Ion and for the most part it's wasted space.
My opinion would be to axe both Ions.
MIKE0616
03-29-09, 07:36 AM
I've looked at the programming content on Ion and for the most part it's wasted space.
My opinion would be to axe both Ions.
As others have said, there are channels they would like to see gone (they are nothing but air-pollution) that would like, I would wager.
Only solution would be to implement selective programming, you pick the channels you want and pay accordingly. Will this ever happen? Only when legislated, as its not in the interest of cable or satellite to offer it, but maybe FIOS, U-Verse, or one of the others will make the change and market swell will force the others to follow suit. The argument that it would cost more is BS. :)
A la carte channel selection, as has been explained thoroughly, will cause dozens of channels to go away and cost the customer far more. Its not BS.
In any event, in a free Market, ION ceases to exist. It is on DirecTV nationally as a part of a deal to avoid the must-carry rights that these worthless channels are given.
Of course, if we repealed must-carry and repealed retransmission concent and simply allowed cable, and DBS, to carry whatever channels can be received in a location with an antenna, without payment to anyone, as the rightly decided Fortnightly case stated, all would be well. The customer would decide in he wanted his local bandwidth clogged with non-network channels like ION, HSN, preachers, infomercials and other crud.
347 Ion West
Why didn't they put Ion and Ion West on adjacent channels?
TheRatPatrol
03-29-09, 01:04 PM
Why didn't they put Ion and Ion West on adjacent channels?
They'll probably move ION E to 346 eventually.
Jashobeam
03-29-09, 03:07 PM
I would much rather have had Qubo! We do watch ION, but Qubo is much better.
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