mpeg 4 local issues

[rabid_hobbit]

Ok, I've been ignoring this problem long enough, Let's see if anyone has an idea. I'm in a market that gets mpeg4 locals off the 103 sat. I'm using a 3lnb slimline dish, a zinwell 6x16 powered multiswitch, and and have an HR21, and three R22's.

Problem is, when I try to go to my sd local channels, all I get is sfss. My HD locals are fine, and all other programming off the 103 is fine. I can't understand how there can be problem only on the SD locals. Any ideas?

I've been recording off the hd local channels, but it takes up too much space with all the american idol episodes my wife wants to keep. :nono2:

[RobertE]

Ok, I've been ignoring this problem long enough, Let's see if anyone has an idea. I'm in a market that gets mpeg4 locals off the 103 sat. I'm using a 3lnb slimline dish, a zinwell 6x16 powered multiswitch, and and have an HR21, and three R22's.

Problem is, when I try to go to my sd local channels, all I get is sfss. My HD locals are fine, and all other programming off the 103 is fine. I can't understand how there can be problem only on the SD locals. Any ideas?

I've been recording off the hd local channels, but it takes up too much space with all the american idol episodes my wife wants to keep. :nono2:

Were you in a 72.5 market?

If so, do you still have the second dish in the sat setup?

[rabid_hobbit]

Were you in a 72.5 market?

If so, do you still have the second dish in the sat setup?



yes, it is market converting from 72 to mpeg 4.
no, I had a 72 dish at the old address, got the slimline dish when I moved.

[RobertE]

Have you re-run sat setup and make sure that only the slimline is listed?

[rabid_hobbit]

Have you re-run sat setup and make sure that only the slimline is listed?

It's been a while, I'll have to re-check that when I get home. The thing I don't understand, is that even if the hr21 is still set for 5lnb w/ 72 from the old address, the r22's were all new at this location, so they *should* be set for the right dish. If they're not, i'm gonna be pissed, at both the tech who installed and me for not checking sooner.

[Johnnie5000]

It's been a while, I'll have to re-check that when I get home. The thing I don't understand, is that even if the hr21 is still set for 5lnb w/ 72 from the old address, the r22's were all new at this location, so they *should* be set for the right dish. If they're not, i'm gonna be pissed, at both the tech who installed and me for not checking sooner.

Run into that all the time. If you've got any of your receivers set for 5 when it's a 3, you're going to have issues. Mainly just a random "Multiswitch Error" popping up out of nowhere and going away just as quick. If they're not set to Slim3, change them asap.

[RobertE]

It's been a while, I'll have to re-check that when I get home. The thing I don't understand, is that even if the hr21 is still set for 5lnb w/ 72 from the old address, the r22's were all new at this location, so they *should* be set for the right dish. If they're not, i'm gonna be pissed, at both the tech who installed and me for not checking sooner.

The R22s may need BBCs as well depending on which sat the locals are on. D10/11 BBCs, Spaceway 1/2 no BBCs.

If the HR still has the 72.5 set in the setup, it may be looking for the SD locals off that sat instead of 99/103.

[Tech_1438]

I can't understand how there can be problem only on the SD locals. Any ideas?

I've been recording off the hd local channels, but it takes up too much space with all the american idol episodes my wife wants to keep. :nono2:


Your SD locals went bye-bye when you moved. No 72.5 dish, no SD locals. You're stuck recording in HD.

[miketorse]

Your SD locals went bye-bye when you moved. No 72.5 dish, no SD locals. You're stuck recording in HD.

No, the OP said they had transfered to MPEG4 (and he's right). 99/103. He should now get them without a 72.5 dish.

[Tech_1438]

No, the OP said they had transfered to MPEG4 (and he's right). 99/103. He should now get them without a 72.5 dish.


Note the OPs issue is with his SD locals, he is receiving his HD/MPEG4 locals with no problems. AFAIK, DirecTV is not duplicating SD feeds as well as the HD feeds for the 72.5 transition markets. Obviously his local FOX affilate is HD and DirecTV is providing that feed via the 99/103. The OP is able to watch/record the 99/103 with his current Slimline only dish configuration. At his previous residence, he had both the Slimline and 72.5 dish, he would have been able to record American Idol in either HD or SD, which is what he is trying to do now. This is not an option because the 72.5 dish is gone. As others have already stated, the only reason he still sees the SD version in his guide, is because the technician that completed his Mover's Connect did not "repeat satellite setup" and remove the 72.5 dish from the configuration.

[carl6]

AFAIK, DirecTV is not duplicating SD feeds as well as the HD feeds for the 72.5 transition markets.

In those markets where SD locals were being provided on 72.5, DirecTV IS duplicating the SD feeds in mpeg4. The OP should be able to have both SD and HD copies of his local channels in his guide, and should be able to tune to either one, assuming his receiver is set up properly (i.e., it no longer specifies the 72.5 dish, and does specify a Slimline of some type).

[Tech_1438]

In those markets where SD locals were being provided on 72.5, DirecTV IS duplicating the SD feeds in mpeg4. The OP should be able to have both SD and HD copies of his local channels in his guide, and should be able to tune to either one, assuming his receiver is set up properly (i.e., it no longer specifies the 72.5 dish, and does specify a Slimline of some type).

Well, I cannot speak for all of the 72.5 transition DMAs, but I can speak for the Fort Wayne, IN DMA. DirecTV is most definately NOT duplicating the SD feeds in MPEG4 on the 103(a) in our DMA. In the Ft. Wayne DMA, FOX, CBS, ABC, and NBC are HD, the CW and PBS do not do HD. These six channels (4 HD, 2 SD) are the only MPEG4 local feeds provided from the 103(a), there are no SD duplicates of the 4 HD locals provided via the 103(a). The only SD versions of our 4 HD local channels are/were provided from the 72.5 satellite. I'll bet once the OP gets his dish configuration set properly to remove the 72.5 satellite and reports back, he will have the same result.

[Greyshadow2007]

In those markets where SD locals were being provided on 72.5, DirecTV IS duplicating the SD feeds in mpeg4. The OP should be able to have both SD and HD copies of his local channels in his guide, and should be able to tune to either one, assuming his receiver is set up properly (i.e., it no longer specifies the 72.5 dish, and does specify a Slimline of some type).

Carl,

Do you know of a specific DMA that is providing both HD and SD of 99/103? All markets that I've seen have followed what Tech_1438 described, with HD feeds being provided if available, and downconverted for SD-only subscribers.

[Johnnie5000]

Well, I cannot speak for all of the 72.5 transition DMAs, but I can speak for the Fort Wayne, IN DMA. DirecTV is most definately NOT duplicating the SD feeds in MPEG4 on the 103(a) in our DMA. In the Ft. Wayne DMA, FOX, CBS, ABC, and NBC are HD, the CW and PBS do not do HD. These six channels (4 HD, 2 SD) are the only MPEG4 local feeds provided from the 103(a), there are no SD duplicates of the 4 HD locals provided via the 103(a). The only SD versions of our 4 HD local channels are/were provided from the 72.5 satellite. I'll bet once the OP gets his dish configuration set properly to remove the 72.5 satellite and reports back, he will have the same result.

Basically the same in the Chattanooga market. NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox and one local PBS are HD, CW and the other local PBS (Georgia PBS)feeds are SD.

[texasbrit]

As far as I know, in all the markets where the SD locals were on 72.5, all the channels are being transmitted just once. If the local is in HD, as was posted by tech_1438, the HD channel is being transmitted by DirecTV and then downconverted by the receiver to produce an SD copy, there is no SD channel as such. That's why on the R22 SD DVR for example, the SD channels are all pillarboxed versions of the HD channels if the HD channel exists. That's also why the markets moving from 72.5 get HD locals even though many of them are small DMAs that would not normally be given HD locals before larger DMAs.

[rabid_hobbit]

The HR21 was set wrong, I changed it. I'll have to check the HR21 again when I get home to see if the sd locals have disappeared, but I know that on the R22's it only shows the HD locals, and those were on the correct dish type all along. If I ever get a weekend free, I might just go install my own 72 dish just to get rid of that darn message telling me I have less than 10% left.:nono2:

[dishrich]

If I ever get a weekend free, I might just go install my own 72 dish just to get rid of that darn message telling me I have less than 10% left.:nono2:

You DO realize that 72.5 bird is going bye-bye by the end of the year, so after that, you WON'T have any choice anyway. (hint: why DO you think they are now ONLY installing slimline/MPEG4 equipment in your market now ;) ;) )

And yes, everyone that is telling you there are NO SD duplicate feeds in MPEG4 IS correct - I have NO idea why carl6 keeps insisting otherwise - considering he is NOT even in one of these markets. :rolleyes:

[carl6]

And yes, everyone that is telling you there are NO SD duplicate feeds in MPEG4 IS correct - I have NO idea why carl6 keeps insisting otherwise - considering he is NOT even in one of these markets. :rolleyes:

I stand corrected, my apologies.

[rabid_hobbit]

You DO realize that 72.5 bird is going bye-bye by the end of the year, so after that, you WON'T have any choice anyway. (hint: why DO you think they are now ONLY installing slimline/MPEG4 equipment in your market now ;) ;) )

And yes, everyone that is telling you there are NO SD duplicate feeds in MPEG4 IS correct - I have NO idea why carl6 keeps insisting otherwise - considering he is NOT even in one of these markets. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know. I was thinking more for immediate solution than long term. Since it's so far into the american Idol season though, maybe I'll just break down and buy a dvd burner.