Bangor Maine HD Locals

[David MacLeod]

all LIL's (except CW14) showing in 720 or 1080 as of this morning :)
fox 22 is showing 720.
2,5,12 and wvii 7 all 1080 right now.

EDIT: looked at CW14 wrong, still 480 this morning, sorry about that.

[LameLefty]

all LIL's showing in 720 or 1080 as of this morning :)
fox 22 is showing 720, cw14 720 also.
2,5,7 all 1080 right now.

Let a Mod know via PM so they can confirm/put on the News page. :)

Congrats, bby the way. We're still waiting on CW, MyNetwork and PBS here in Nashville.

[David MacLeod]

was just checking and PBS is 1080, no MyNetwork here but hey...its all good :)
mods were notified already.

[sundude90]

I checked this morning at 6:10 and I noticed that I only could see the HD and not the SD channels anymore. I also didn't see anything about HD in the Guide.

[JoweezNutz]

[QUOTE=LameLefty;2064430]Let a Mod know via PM so they can confirm/put on the News page. :)

Why notify? The Shadow knows....

Congrats to those in Bangor...

[David MacLeod]

noticed guide description did not change either, going to reboot one unit to see if that matters.
12 has big old MPBN HD sign on it right now :)

[spaceghostinME]

Woohoo! :D

[David MacLeod]

edited original post, CW is still sd. had 2 units side-side and looked at wrong one when checking CW :(
did reverify all others, fox is 720, nbc/cbs/abc/pbs all 1080.
been comparing wabi ota vs lil-hd and its looking good, can't see any differences in quality.

rebooting units did not affect guide, nothing there (including program descriptions) designates HD. since this was just turned on this might be forthcoming still.

[sundude90]

This is odd. I have show SD Duplicates ON and I don't see my SD Local versions at all, just the HD locals. Anybody else see this?

[David MacLeod]

haven't checked, but why would they broadcast sd and hd locals?
wouldn't that, except for cw, require 2 feeds?

[sundude90]

haven't checked, but why would they broadcast sd and hd locals?
wouldn't that, except for cw, require 2 feeds?

When I talked to Directv they made is sound like there was going to be a HD Version and a SD version. They told me I couldn't get the HD because I don't have the HD Package, but I have all HD Receivers & Sat except for my R22.

Right now it looks like there is not such thing as SD except for the CW.

Could you please look and see if you are seeing the same thing please.

Are these HD locals still on the same Satellite?

[David MacLeod]

When I talked to Directv they made is sound like there was going to be a HD Version and a SD version. They told me I couldn't get the HD because I don't have the HD Package, but I have all HD Receivers & Sat except for my R22.

Right now it looks like there is not such thing as SD except for the CW.

Could you please look and see if you are seeing the same thing please.

Are these HD locals still on the same Satellite?

I can verify that the guide only shows 1 choice, is no sd/hd version.
I don't know what sat they are on, honestly cannot remember, so I can't answer the last part. sorry.

does the r22 gain them?

[sundude90]

I can verify that the guide only shows 1 choice, is no sd/hd version.
I don't know what sat they are on, honestly cannot remember, so I can't answer the last part. sorry.

does the r22 gain them?

So it looks like the channels are actually in HD now, but the the guide basically says it's SD. That's kinda weird I think.

I will call George at WVII 7 and see why FOX is only 720. I will also ask him if he knows if SD is gone now or what.

I sure wish I knew more info about what is going on.

Thanks David!

Josh

[Wisegoat]

So it looks like the channels are actually in HD now, but the the guide basically says it's SD. That's kinda weird I think.

I will call George at WVII 7 and see why FOX is only 720. I will also ask him if he knows if SD is gone now or what.

I sure wish I knew more info about what is going on.

Thanks David!

Josh

Fox and any of their properties (FX, FSN, FoxNews, FBN) are always 720p. That is the HD format they have chosen.

[Bobwhite]

Finally! Now I can watch the Celtics on ABC!

[David MacLeod]

Fox and any of their properties (FX, FSN, FoxNews, FBN) are always 720p. That is the HD format they have chosen.

I had forgotten about that, thanks.

[sundude90]

The CW 14 will not be in HD for awhile because they don't have the ability to broadcast that channel in HD Over the Air. Directv picks up all channels except for ABC 7 & FOX 22 via OTA. ABC 7 & FOX 22 are not OTA because Directv's equipment is a ABC 7's studios in Bangor.

[sundude90]

I have not been able to find out why the guide is saying that those channels are not HD. I am also trying to find out if SD is totally gone for this market now or what the story is with that.

If anybody finds this out before me, please let me know.

Thanks,
Josh

[flyingtigerfan]

Excellent. Congratulations, Maine types! Every time a new city gets locals I get happy, because it means at least they are continuing the rollout of new HD locals (and not just adding channels in existing local markets).

So we have hope yet.

[elguapo79]

Working here! Curious about why there is no separate feed for the SDs and if there will be. Shows that should be in HD don't have the HD logo on the guide yet. Hrrmmmm.

Any idea how long I'll have to keep the national networks now? I'm assuming that having the locals in HD now means that I will soon lose the NY and LA networks.

[MalibuRacing]

Congrats to Bangor. But it sucks to be in the Huntsville, AL DMA. Just checked, we're the top DMA (#83) without HD locals. Bangor is #153 :nono2:

I'm not sure what's the hold up, Dish has HD locals in Huntsville, and it's getting very frustrating on the wait. I haven't seen Huntsville on any upcoming list, which is even more disappointing.... :(

[TARDIS]

When I go the the CW channel 14 in the guide, my receiver goes to 720p. So it must be in HD or why else would it start swithing to 720p?

[David MacLeod]

When I go the the CW channel 14 in the guide, my receiver goes to 720p. So it must be in HD or why else would it start swithing to 720p?

make sure 480 is enabled in hd settings and you'll see it go to the 480 res.
3 HD-DVR's here and 2 tv's list it 480.
if 720 and 1080 are only things checked it will go to 720 on the front panel.

[David MacLeod]

Working here! Seems like there is no separate feed for the SDs anymore?

Any idea how long I'll have to keep the national networks now? I'm assuming that having the locals in HD now means that I will soon lose the NY and LA networks.
not sure, wlbz granted nbc east hd feed few months ago, no idea how long it will stay.

[Juppers]

Congrats to Bangor. But it sucks to be in the Huntsville, AL DMA. Just checked, we're the top DMA (#83) without HD locals. Bangor is #153 :nono2:

I'm not sure what's the hold up, Dish has HD locals in Huntsville, and it's getting very frustrating on the wait. I haven't seen Huntsville on any upcoming list, which is even more disappointing.... :(

Not quite the top, there are 4 DMAs larger than yours that don't have HD locals yet. Here in Lexington, KY (#63) we don't have HD locals or even have them announced yet. Dish Network started carrying them a few months ago.

[sundude90]

Working here! Curious about why there is no separate feed for the SDs and if there will be. Shows that should be in HD don't have the HD logo on the guide yet. Hrrmmmm.

Any idea how long I'll have to keep the national networks now? I'm assuming that having the locals in HD now means that I will soon lose the NY and LA networks.

I just talked to WVII ABC & and Directv about this. They know about this issues along with several other issues with these new locals. They are working on this and they hope to have it fixed a few days.

For the people who had HD Receivers and/or a R22 but don't have the HD Package then there is a lot of formating issues currently like with everything being stretched.

I have also asked for directv to put a banner on the bottom of the screen to notify customers about these issues. But will see if they listen or not. I suggested this because all my Non- Tech savvy neighbors have called me asking what's going on.

I suggest that everyone to email or call directv about there not being a HD and SD channel that separated & about the stretch issues if your having that.

[uscboy]

Bangor, Maine... seriously? What's next, Nome, Alaska? :lol:

Haha - jk, congrats to Bangor folks, hope they get these small issues ironed out quickly for y'all.

[David MacLeod]

what other issues are they seeing besides the guide and stretching?
been watching off and on and when I was looking things were good.

[TARDIS]

make sure 480 is enabled in hd settings and you'll see it go to the 480 res.
3 HD-DVR's here and 2 tv's list it 480.
if 720 and 1080 are only things checked it will go to 720 on the front panel.

I have all the settings for the Res from 480i to the 1080i enabled and my receiver is set to default to the native resolution. My brother stated that he is also getting the channel in 720p. So it's not just me. I have the "older" HD DVR that has the antenna input on it and is silver and grey and my brother has the "newer" black version that does not have the antenna input on it. Although now that I had more time to look at the channel, the image is stretched to fill the screen (rather annoying). I might have to shut off the 720P and 1080i options to force the image back into a normal looking imange at either 480p or i when I want to watch the channel.

[sundude90]

what other issues are they seeing besides the guide and stretching?
been watching off and on and when I was looking things were good.

The biggest problem is how there isn't 2 channels, like one for HD and one for SD. There is also the problem with the format on the R22 currently. The other problems are you can't change it from 480P on receivers without the HD package which is causing lots of formatting issues there two. There is also some internal issues that can't be seen.

[LGM2007]

This is very very nice. I have been having a lot of trouble with OTA lately. Now the big question, are WLBZ and WVII broadcasting in Dolby Digital?

[sundude90]

All the resolution for ABC & FOX should be 720P and not 1080I. Also CW shouldn't be coming through as 720P which was seen by some people. And the CW shouldn't have the HD flags next to some of it programs, like it does.

[sundude90]

This is very very nice. I have been having a lot of trouble with OTA lately. Now the big question, are WLBZ and WVII broadcasting in Dolby Digital?

I am not sure about this, but will ask. I think that only some of the movies/ shows that are programed by ABC might be in Dolby Digital if it says it is at the beginning of the program.

Also NONE of the Local news is in HD!

[David MacLeod]

All the resolution for ABC & FOX should be 720P and not 1080I. Also CW shouldn't be coming through as 720P which was seen by some people. And the CW shouldn't have the HD flags next to some of it programs, like it does.

abc and fox are 720, abc has been since mid-morning. the 1080 abc was very brief during their abc morning show.
the cw was a mistake on my end, post was edited to show that, and is 480 on 3 units here.

did not notice any hd flags on cw programs, but easily could have missed that.

[LGM2007]

Only CBS is in Dolby as of right now.

[David MacLeod]

I have all the settings for the Res from 480i to the 1080i enabled and my receiver is set to default to the native resolution. My brother stated that he is also getting the channel in 720p. So it's not just me. I have the "older" HD DVR that has the antenna input on it and is silver and grey and my brother has the "newer" black version that does not have the antenna input on it. Although now that I had more time to look at the channel, the image is stretched to fill the screen (rather annoying). I might have to shut off the 720P and 1080i options to force the image back into a normal looking imange at either 480p or i when I want to watch the channel.

thats the way I'm setup too and mine are switching to 480 when I go to it. that is odd, I just checked again too to be sure.
weird :)

[sundude90]

thats the way I'm setup too and mine are switching to 480 when I go to it. that is odd, I just checked again too to be sure.
weird :)

What channel is this on? I think this maybe one of the problems also.
If you don't have the HD package you can't change this at all on any of the locals (It's not suppose to do that according to Directv)!

[David MacLeod]

What channel is this on? I think this maybe one of the problems also.
If you don't have the HD package you can't change this at all on any of the locals (It's not suppose to do that according to Directv)!

14, but I did check 5-2 also just for grins and both are 480 for me.
I do have hd package and only hd units so can't see some of the issues you do.

[sundude90]

14, but I did check 5-2 also just for grins and both are 480 for me.
I do have hd package and only hd units so can't see some of the issues you do.

Did you go in an turn uncheck 480 I & P in the menu and then try to cycle through my pressing the 'Res" button on the receiver??

[David MacLeod]

no I didn't manually try forcing res change, had no need to. later when things are not in use I'll mess with that to see what happens.

[sundude90]

What receivers do your have? Do you have native on?
please let me know how everything goes.

[David MacLeod]

all HR21-100 dvrs using native on with all res checked.
I'll test/ post this tomorrow morning.

[Bobwhite]

I'm getting all the available locals in HD except for Fox, which does not tune in, I'm just getting a Gray Screen. Am I the only one not getting Fox?

[texasbrit]

I assume in Bangor because the SD locals were on 99, when they started to deliver HD locals they removed the SD locals so there was only a need to transmit one signal per channel. This is how it also works in the markets transitioning from SD locals on the 72.5 dish also. The "SD local" is actually the HD local signal downressed to 480i (or in the case of the R22 using HDMI, 480p). The R22 will display these "16:9 SD channels" letterboxed with gray bars top and bottom. The local stations don't have anything to do with this, that's just how it is unless DirecTV changes the way the R22 works.

[David MacLeod]

I'm getting all the available locals in HD except for Fox, which does not tune in, I'm just getting a Gray Screen. Am I the only one not getting Fox?
22 comes in fine for me in 720 hd.

[Bobwhite]

22 comes in fine for me in 720 hd.

Any suggestions Dave? I hesitate to call, in case they take away my out of market network HD feeds. Right now I have both(local hd and NY hd) on all except no local fox sd or hd.

[David MacLeod]

Any suggestions Dave? I hesitate to call, in case they take away my out of market network HD feeds. Right now I have both(local hd and NY hd) on all except no local fox sd or hd.

what are you using for receiver? if its sd receiver I would not know since I don't have one.

[Bobwhite]

what are you using for receiver? if its sd receiver I would not know since I don't have one.

I have 2 hr20-700. Both hd receivers.

[David MacLeod]

I have 2 hr20-700. Both hd receivers.
are signal strengths ok on 99s? don't remember which transponder, think its in the 20 range, possibly 24. my 99s are:
1-8 : 0 26 99 0 0 0 n/a n/a
9-16: n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 99 78
17-24: 98 100 0 83 63 58 98 100
25-32: n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a

if yours are close on both t1 and t2 I don't know, maybe checking supported res screen and native settings?

[Bobwhite]

are signal strengths ok on 99s? don't remember which transponder, think its in the 20 range, possibly 24. my 99s are:
1-8 : 0 26 99 0 0 0 n/a n/a
9-16: n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 99 78
17-24: 98 100 0 83 63 58 98 100
25-32: n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a

if yours are close on both t1 and t2 I don't know, maybe checking supported res screen and native settings?

I'll check that out when I get home. Maybe a simple reset will do it.

[David MacLeod]

I wish I could give you a definitive answer :)

[Bobwhite]

I wish I could give you a definitive answer :)

Thanks for the input Dave. I'll check to see if the cable is loose, than do a reset, than check signal strength. If that doesn't work I'll give them a call.:D

[David MacLeod]

I'd check res/native settings too before doing resets. others are working so its probably not signal (I didn't catch that at first) but isolated channel issue.
reset may very well be the fix, please let us know.
have not had a chance to manually check format issues on cw yet.

[sundude90]

When I talked to Directv they said that there is suppose to be a HD channel and then the SD channel. Since I only have the SD Package, when I looked at PBS I didn't see the HD logo for that channel, so it looks like I am seeing the SD Version, but only stretched for some reason.

I am not sure exactly what is going on, because directv doesn't even know right now.

I am going out of town this evening, so I won't be able to be much of a help.

[egould]

I have been receiving WLBZ OTA for a number of years (until yesterday) and I do not ever remember seeing a Dolby Digital signal on any of their programming, even the HD. I understand that DirecTV is getting their locals at the local receive facility at Channel 7 OTA (except ABC and Fox). That would explain why Channel 2 is not DD. I think it's a station issue, not a DirecTV issue.

[sundude90]

I have been receiving WLBZ OTA for a number of years (until yesterday) and I do not ever remember seeing a Dolby Digital signal on any of their programming, even the HD. I understand that DirecTV is getting their locals at the local receive facility at Channel 7 OTA (except ABC and Fox). That would explain why Channel 2 is not DD. I think it's a station issue, not a DirecTV issue.

I could find out from ABC/ FOX WVII and WABI CBS if they broadcast in Dolby Digital or not.

I don't have a contact at WLBZ2 so I probably can't get a answer about Dolby Digital from them.

I will let you know when I find something out.

[egould]

WABI is in DD both OTA and from DirecTV. Last night American Idol was not in DD. I don't know about other Fox programming.

[David MacLeod]

not sure if this is what you guys were looking for, but on both 5.2 and 14 (CW) pressing format ONLY cycles through 480i and nothing else. just moves through pillar/crop/stretch/original styles.

this is with native on and all res checked.

with native off it will cycles though all 4 resolutions and styles for each.

[spaceghostinME]

Hmmm....I too am having the Fox issue - just a gray/black screen. I also have HR20-700s. Both are experiencing the same issue. I'll try a reset to see if that helps.

[David MacLeod]

watching 22 right now, no issues.

[spaceghostinME]

A red button reset fixed it on one unit. Waiting to try it on the other one. Its currently in use by the Mrs. :D

[sundude90]

not sure if this is what you guys were looking for, but on both 5.2 and 14 (CW) pressing format ONLY cycles through 480i and nothing else. just moves through pillar/crop/stretch/original styles.

this is with native on and all res checked.

with native off it will cycles though all 4 resolutions and styles for each.

I have the same issue & have told directv this. They said this is a issue when I talked to them last night. This is one of the problems I was talking about.

[sundude90]

I have told Directv several times that they should put a on-screen message telling customers that there is some problems going on and they are being fixed, but they don't seem to want to.

[spaceghostinME]

Hmmm....I too am having the Fox issue - just a gray/black screen. I also have HR20-700s. Both are experiencing the same issue. I'll try a reset to see if that helps.

Ok, I take this back. After the reset, 22 was coming in (Seinfeld was on, not in HD, but was broadcast with pillar boxes, so seemed to be the HD feed). However, I just flipped back to see if primetime HD stuff was coming in, and I'm back to the gray screen. I'm resetting again to see if it fixes it again. Unfortunately this unit is hooked to a SD TV. The other is the HD TV...will check that later.

[spaceghostinME]

Ok, RBRed again and Fox is back again. Hopefully it stays now. It would be a paid to have to keep resetting to watch it...

[texasbrit]

When I talked to Directv they said that there is suppose to be a HD channel and then the SD channel. Since I only have the SD Package, when I looked at PBS I didn't see the HD logo for that channel, so it looks like I am seeing the SD Version, but only stretched for some reason.

I am not sure exactly what is going on, because directv doesn't even know right now.

I am going out of town this evening, so I won't be able to be much of a help.

I think you will find that there is only one channel for each station. If a station is available in HD, that's the one DirecTV transmits. If it's only available in SD then the SD channel gets transmitted.
The person you talked to at DirecTV may only understanrd the "normal" approach, not the way DirecTV does it in the ex-72.5 markets, plus your market in Bangor.

[Bobwhite]

Ok, RBRed again and Fox is back again. Hopefully it stays now. It would be a paid to have to keep resetting to watch it...

I did a RBRed and fox came on, than I watched a 30 minute show on the dvr and when I finished the gray screen was back. I did a RBRed twice more, and never could get it to tune back in. Nothing but a gray screen. I usually have "native" off, so I tried with it on, and cycled through resolution and put it on 720, still nothing. :mad::confused:

[spaceghostinME]

I did a RBRed and fox came on, than I watched a 30 minute show on the dvr and when I finished the gray screen was back. I did a RBRed twice more, and never could get it to tune back in. Nothing but a gray screen. I usually have "native" off, so I tried with it on, and cycled through resolution and put it on 720, still nothing. :mad::confused:

Yeah, same symptoms with me here. Not sure what's going on with this.

[spaceghostinME]

Yeah, same symptoms with me here. Not sure what's going on with this.

Ok, just fiddled with this some more. Not sure what this means, but maybe it'll help folks figure out what is going on. I just tried to watch the Simpsons that I had recorded from earlier today on Fox22, and at first it seemed to have the same issues as the live channel. I then skipped back and the picture came in. I then exited out of the recorded program and went to the live channel and it was coming in? Still not sure what exactly is going on, but it seems that the signal is coming in, but the receiver is having trouble showing it at times?

[spaceghostinME]

Ok, just fiddled with this some more. Not sure what this means, but maybe it'll help folks figure out what is going on. I just tried to watch the Simpsons that I had recorded from earlier today on Fox22, and at first it seemed to have the same issues as the live channel. I then skipped back and the picture came in. I then exited out of the recorded program and went to the live channel and it was coming in? Still not sure what exactly is going on, but it seems that the signal is coming in, but the receiver is having trouble showing it at times?

Ok, I think I'm just rambling at this point :sure: , but here's a little more info. On my other unit I tried going to 22 live and again, the same issue, just a black screen. I tried skipping back/forward and still just nothing. I then started to record the live program (the news) and went into the list and started watching it and it played fine. I then exited out of that and went back to the live channel and, voila, it was working.... but for how long, who knows?

[David MacLeod]

I cannot duplicate this on the 3 HR21-100 units. messed with native settings and stuff and it always works.
how are you hooked up? any receivers or switches in line from receiver to tv?
I don't know what I can do to help with this since I can't make it happen.

on the sd/hd issue everything I've read leads me to same conclusion Texasbrit stated, only 1 broadcast.

let me know what I can do to help, unfortunately, for testing, everything is working here.

[David MacLeod]

I wonder if rerunning sat setup would do anything. just tossing out thoughts right now.

[Bobwhite]

Ok, I think I'm just rambling at this point :sure: , but here's a little more info. On my other unit I tried going to 22 live and again, the same issue, just a black screen. I tried skipping back/forward and still just nothing. I then started to record the live program (the news) and went into the list and started watching it and it played fine. I then exited out of that and went back to the live channel and, voila, it was working.... but for how long, who knows?

Interesting. If you discover anything else please post, its very helpful since we have exactly the same problem. I'll try that tonight when I get home. Definitely something is not quite right. I've got two hd dvr's just like you, I haven't tried the other one yet. I would also say its getting the signal fine, but will not display it for some reason:confused:

[Bobwhite]

I cannot duplicate this on the 3 HR21-100 units. messed with native settings and stuff and it always works.
how are you hooked up? any receivers or switches in line from receiver to tv?
I don't know what I can do to help with this since I can't make it happen.

on the sd/hd issue everything I've read leads me to same conclusion Texasbrit stated, only 1 broadcast.

let me know what I can do to help, unfortunately, for testing, everything is working here.

Dave my setup is direct from sat to both receivers. No multiswitch. Four outputs from dish and four inputs to receivers for both tuners. Its seems like its and issue with the HR-20 to me, as all other stations come in fine. I put "native" on, and that just slowed down the tuning in of other channels, but still didn't tune in fox, so I turned it back off. Also I have fox res set to 720p original format, though screwing with the res still wouldn't tune it in. My tv is 720p.

[David MacLeod]

if using hdmi could you try component? wonder if it would work then.
that would narrow it down to an hdmi "issue" that may help troubleshoot it.
about the only thing I can think of, sorry.

[sundude90]

I am out of town now, so I am afraid I can't be much of a help now. Please keep me posted to what is going on.

I still seem to think that there is still a SD Feed since I didn't see the MPBN HD Logo on channel 12 at all. I really don't get this at all.

I will call George at ABC 7 on Monday or maybe when I am out of this airport.

[Bobwhite]

if using hdmi could you try component? wonder if it would work then.
that would narrow it down to an hdmi "issue" that may help troubleshoot it.
about the only thing I can think of, sorry.

I do have the connection running through an hdmi switch, but it seems odd that it would affect just that channel and none of the others. I'll try running it directly without the switch and see if that helps. Component would be quite a hassle as both tv's are wall mounted:nono:

[David MacLeod]

depending on the show MPBN might not show hd logo, been a few this morning without it and a few with it.

[David MacLeod]

I do have the connection running through an hdmi switch, but it seems odd that it would affect just that channel and none of the others. I'll try running it directly without the switch and see if that helps. Component would be quite a hassle as both tv's are wall mounted:nono:

when it shows like this have you tried just switching the hdmi switch inputs then switching back? this is why I had wondered about hdmi previously.
iirc some had reported odd issues with auto switching hdmi switches, I am using a manual/remote switch and have not had issues like this.

[seltech]

Grats Bangor, I'm jealous you guys have PBS HD, when will Portland, ME market get it? :confused:

[Bobwhite]

Ok, just fiddled with this some more. Not sure what this means, but maybe it'll help folks figure out what is going on. I just tried to watch the Simpsons that I had recorded from earlier today on Fox22, and at first it seemed to have the same issues as the live channel. I then skipped back and the picture came in. I then exited out of the recorded program and went to the live channel and it was coming in? Still not sure what exactly is going on, but it seems that the signal is coming in, but the receiver is having trouble showing it at times?

This worked for me as well. I'm still getting a gray screen when trying to tune Fox22 live, but i recorded a show, and it plays fine. Very strange:confused:

[Bobwhite]

when it shows like this have you tried just switching the hdmi switch inputs then switching back? this is why I had wondered about hdmi previously.
iirc some had reported odd issues with auto switching hdmi switches, I am using a manual/remote switch and have not had issues like this.

I actually have a manual hdmi witch with a remote as you have.

I don't know if you read my previous post, but if I dvr Fox22, then it properly records the show, but it still will not tune it live, only a gray screen:confused:

[David MacLeod]

I think its actually less of a tune issue and more of a display (for live view) issue. not sure if I explained that right.
why I'm wondering if reforcing handshake would make it work, switching input back and forth, while leaving receiver on the channel.
that make sense?

[Bobwhite]

I think its actually less of a tune issue and more of a display (for live view) issue. not sure if I explained that right.
why I'm wondering if reforcing handshake would make it work, switching input back and forth, while leaving receiver on the channel.
that make sense?

Dave that makes sense to me, and I just tried it, but still no dice. As a temporary workaround, I just hit record and then played the show, and then deleted it and it now comes in live, but when I change channels it goes back to the dreaded gray screen. I'm going to try my other tv not running through the switch and see if that is the culprit. I definitely agree with you that its a "handshake" issue. It just can't seem to reestablish it.

[David MacLeod]

I was going to ask if you had another tv.
been trying to duplicate it here. I have 1 setup going through switch and another straight to tv. been messing with res and native settings and I can't get it to do this.

[spaceghostinME]

I was going to ask if you had another tv.
been trying to duplicate it here. I have 1 setup going through switch and another straight to tv. been messing with res and native settings and I can't get it to do this.

Ok, I'm still getting the issue as well, and its not an HDMI one as my second TV is an SD one connected by component cable to the HR20. I do have a multiswitch that splits to each unit. I wonder if its an HR20 vs HR21 issue? I think Bobwhite said that he had HR20s and you're using an HR21, right? I suppose we should report to DirecTV to see if they have any advice, but I just hate dealing with their tech support. Since recorded shows seem to work ok, I may just live with it for now. Keep me updated with any thoughts on getting this fixed. Thanks!

[David MacLeod]

yes, all HR21 here. could be HR20 issue since it isn't isolated to just hdmi.
I'm out of ideas then :(

[Bobwhite]

Ok, I'm still getting the issue as well, and its not an HDMI one as my second TV is an SD one connected by component cable to the HR20. I do have a multiswitch that splits to each unit. I wonder if its an HR20 vs HR21 issue? I think Bobwhite said that he had HR20s and you're using an HR21, right? I suppose we should report to DirecTV to see if they have any advice, but I just hate dealing with their tech support. Since recorded shows seem to work ok, I may just live with it for now. Keep me updated with any thoughts on getting this fixed. Thanks!

I agree it must be an HR20 issue, and also that I have no desire to spend hours on the phone with their tech support to come to the same conclusion that we already have reached. I'll live with it until they take away my N.Y. Fox, and then I will talk them into a couple shiny new HR21's:D Thanks for help from you and Dave:D

[David MacLeod]

not sure how much help I was but we did try :)

[spaceghostinME]

Well, I was out today, but the Mrs. said that both tuners downloaded an update of some sort and now the problem appears to be gone. So...it would seem that DirecTV was aware of the issue and did something to fix it. Or, it could be a huge coincidence. :D Either way it seems to be resolved for the time being so I am happy.

[sundude90]

Is the guide still messed up with no HD in it?

What issue did this update fix? What was it a software update?

[spaceghostinME]

Is the guide still messed up with no HD in it?

What issue did this update fix? What was it a software update?

I have no inside knowledge of what the update fixed, if anything for sure. The issue that I and another person were experiencing was with FOX 22 not displaying the live feed correctly. All I really know is that my wife said that the receivers in both rooms downloaded something, and after that this issue seems to have rectified itself. I suppose it could have just been a coincidence, but it seemed interesting none-the-less.

[Bobwhite]

Well, I was out today, but the Mrs. said that both tuners downloaded an update of some sort and now the problem appears to be gone. So...it would seem that DirecTV was aware of the issue and did something to fix it. Or, it could be a huge coincidence. :D Either way it seems to be resolved for the time being so I am happy.


Ditto for me as well. It tuned in just like all the other channels after that update. I'm not asking any questions as long as it continues to work.:D

[David MacLeod]

Ditto for me as well. It tuned in just like all the other channels after that update. I'm not asking any questions as long as it continues to work.:D

enjoy Fox Animation Domination tonight in HD :) :)

[sundude90]

I called George at WVII Abc 7 and he didn't hear anything from Directv about these problems. He said he has had lots of people calling him about the problems, so he called Directv and then still haven't called back. He called them last Thursday.

[sundude90]

I am home now and I don't see any fixes to these problems. There is nothing different at all. What the heck is taking Directv so long to fix these issues.

[David MacLeod]

unfortunately I don't know of anyway to find out what their holdup is.

[David MacLeod]

Mods, should these problems be moved to the appropriate thread in hd-locals issues here?
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=156335

[Doug Brott]

Mods, should these problems be moved to the appropriate thread in hd-locals issues here?
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=156335

yes