Directc Legacy Switch

[SebastianBlack]

Hello guys! Does anyone have any diagrams of installing of the DTV legacy switch coming from the 5 (non SWM) LNB?

[harsh]

Legacy switches don't work properly with the Ku/Ka LNBs.

[LameLefty]

Hello guys! Does anyone have any diagrams of installing of the DTV legacy switch coming from the 5 (non SWM) LNB?

Just run all four cables to the multiswitch, one for each input to the switch (it doesn't matter which one goes to which input in the switch.

[SebastianBlack]

I guess I did not state what I am looking for correctly. A couple of months ago there was a First Look sat the SWM configurations here on the site. Is there another First Look for the legacy switch? I saw a configuration that I believe was incorrect.

The switch does work with the 5 LNB with the four ports!

[Mertzen]

So you're looking for the manual for the SWM switch with legacy outputs?

[say-what]

I think for most, using the term legacy switches implies those switches used with the 3lnb and older dishes.

For HD, the 5lnb dishes require a wide band switch, either the Zinwell WB68 or WB168. Both of which connect the same as the SWM. 4 lines from the dish to 4 inputs and outputs run to each tuner.

The legacy switches will work with the non-SWM 5lnb dishes, but you won't get HD through them.

[bobnielsen]

Directv uses the term "legacy" to refer to older (non-MPEG4) receivers.

There are two types of switches which will work with that dish:

SWM-8, which is a SWM switch (up to 8 tuners) plus three outputs to feed legacy tuners.

WB-68, WB616 are multiswitches with outputs for 8 or 16 tuners. The WB616 is a powered switch; the WB68 is unpowered. The outputs of these will work with either newer or legacy tuners.

The four outputs from the dish connect to the main inputs. There are also flexport inputs for the 72.5 and 95 satellites. A cable should be run from one of the outputs to the input of any receivers you have (DVRs need two connections in order to use the full capability).

[BattleZone]

https://www.satpro.tv/ProductImages/wb68instalation333.gif

[SebastianBlack]

Thanks BattleZone! Do you have a diagram with the legacy?

Here is what I saw. The customer said it was working.

1. Four lines coming in from the dish>>>Four splitters on the ends of the four lines with one line from each splitter going to the inports on the legacy switch and four lines going to a 6x16>>>>One line coming from the legacy switch to a SWM8 where 4 hddvrs are connected>>>>about 14 lines going to other receivers throughout the house from the 6x16>>>
2. The 101 was coming in for SD, but the 103 was not and the 99 was skipping tranponders.

Any thoughts?

[LameLefty]

Thanks BattleZone! Do you have a diagram with the legacy?

Here is what I saw. The customer said it was working.

1. Four lines coming in from the dish>>>Four splitters on the ends of the four lines with one line from each splitter going to the inports on the legacy switch and four lines going to a 6x16>>>>One line coming from the legacy switch to a SWM8 where 4 hddvrs are connected>>>>about 14 lines going to other receivers throughout the house from the 6x16>>>
2. The 101 was coming in for SD, but the 103 was not and the 99 was skipping tranponders.

Any thoughts?

#2 is because the SWM8 requires 4 inputs - one from each line coming off the dish. Splitting the lines before the SWM8 is fine, provided you still get signals to the SWM8 from each line out of the dish.

In my case I have the 4 lines from the dish split, one leg from each going to the SWM8 and the second line going to a WB68 multiswitch. The provides full functionality for all sats on all lines.

[bobnielsen]

Thanks BattleZone! Do you have a diagram with the legacy?

Here is what I saw. The customer said it was working.

1. Four lines coming in from the dish>>>Four splitters on the ends of the four lines with one line from each splitter going to the inports on the legacy switch and four lines going to a 6x16>>>>One line coming from the legacy switch to a SWM8 where 4 hddvrs are connected>>>>about 14 lines going to other receivers throughout the house from the 6x16>>>
2. The 101 was coming in for SD, but the 103 was not and the 99 was skipping tranponders.

Any thoughts?

Get rid of the legacy switch and run one line from each of the four splitters to both the SWM8 and WB616 (matching the input port labels).

[BattleZone]

Based on your last post, I think what you are talking about when you say "legacy switch", you are really looking at another splitter, and not a switch.


These might be helpful:

http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14181&stc=1&d=1213021417

https://www.techtoolsupply.com/manuals/2swms.gif

[LameLefty]

Battlezone's top diagram is much like my own setup except that I have a 5-lnb dish and I have 4 SWM-compatible DVRs on my SWM8 and one legacy receiver (an R15) connected to the WB68. Part of the reason I have the R15 connected to the WB68 is on the off-chance the SWM or power inserter fails, at least one TV in the house will still work until I get under the house to move some cables around.

[SebastianBlack]

That is the exact setup. However do the splitters have to be power passing on both ports?

[bobnielsen]

Based on your last post, I think what you are talking about when you say "legacy switch", you are really looking at another splitter, and not a switch.


These might be helpful:


https://www.techtoolsupply.com/manuals/2swms.gif

The HRPID1422 device between the dish and the splitters is a polarity locker. Since SWMs are powered, one of these would be superfluous when power-passing splitters are used, except possibly with very long lines.