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pfueri
05-07-09, 10:29 AM
Directv just replaced my old Side Car dish with a Slime Line that has only one feed horn . I thought the Slime Line had more than one feed horn .They replaced my Side Car dish because my HD locals were droping out and stutering .My signal levels on the 99 bird were in the 70s . But all the other birds signals were in the 90s . Now with the new dish all birds are in the 90s . So this is what Directv said was why I have been haveing the HD locals problem . Do you agree and when did Directv come out with a Slime Line Dish with one feed horn ?

tkrandall
05-07-09, 10:40 AM
about 9 months ago. The "Slimeline 3" gets 99/101/103, but not 110 or 119.

miketorse
05-07-09, 10:42 AM
Anything is possible with a Sidecar dish. Just see if the problems reoccur.

pfueri
05-07-09, 11:00 AM
about 9 months ago. The "Slimeline 3" gets 99/101/103, but not 110 or 119.I just checked all the satellites and I get high 90s . It says I get 110 and 119 and they are in the 90s . But I just noticed I don't get the HD channles on the 70s it shows the program guide but i only get a black screen .

evan_s
05-07-09, 11:18 AM
You probably need to go through and rerun your sat setup. A Slimline 3 will only have 1 plastic cap in the center but does actually have 3 lnbs. It is not capable of receiving 110/119 but puts 101 in it's place so the signal readings you are seeing for 110/119 are actually from 101.

DiSH Defector
05-07-09, 11:40 AM
I just checked all the satellites and I get high 90s . It says I get 110 and 119 and they are in the 90s . But I just noticed I don't get the HD channles on the 70s it shows the program guide but i only get a black screen .


A lot of the HD channels in the 70's channel range have either been migrated to MPEG4 and moved to their normal locations in the 3-digit range, or are at least mirrored into the 3-digit range. There are very few of them left.

pfueri
05-07-09, 12:10 PM
A lot of the HD channels in the 70's channel range have either been migrated to MPEG4 and moved to their normal locations in the 3-digit range, or are at least mirrored into the 3-digit range. There are very few of them left.I was able to get them (70's channels) with my old Side Car dish but not with the new Slime Line why ?

jdspencer
05-07-09, 12:16 PM
Because the side car had the LNBs to receive 110 and 119 sats where the MPEG2 HD channels reside. Your "Slimeline" 3 doesn't receiver those regardless of what the signal strength says. You need to rerun sat setup and select the correct dish/LNB.

BattleZone
05-07-09, 01:56 PM
I was able to get them (70's channels) with my old Side Car dish but not with the new Slime Line why ?

The HD channels in the 70s and 80s were the legacy, low-bit-rate, down-rezzed, MPEG2 versions coming from 110 and 119. All of those channels have been mirrored in full resolution in MPEG4 on their 3-digit channel numbers for well over a year now.

Since your new dish doesn't have LNBs to pick up 110 and 119, you can't view channels from those locations, but you haven't needed to since the MPEG4 mirrors became available.

Re-run satellite setup and choose the Slimline-3 dish. That will remove the non-working channels from your guide.

Matt9876
05-07-09, 02:10 PM
As long as you don't need the 119 signal for your local channels the slimline 3 LNB and dish is a great choice for a sidecar upgrade,Just remember to set your receiver unit to slimline 3 as well.:)

kevinturcotte
05-07-09, 02:14 PM
Go back through Guided Setup nd select Slim 3, or something similar (Mine's recording, can't check it).

jdspencer
05-07-09, 08:00 PM
It looks like the consensus is that the OP needs to re-run sat setup to select the Slimline 3 dish. :)

tkrandall
05-08-09, 01:36 PM
Yes, the "stack plan" (how the signals are packed in from the dish coming down the coax cable) is different for the Slimeline 5 and Sidecar, than it is for the Slimeline 3. (non-SWM dishes that is). So he must run set up and select the correct dish type.

The Slimline 3 is always passing signal from 101, either in Ka/Ku combinations of 99/101 or 103/101. The older dishes that can also get 110 and 119, package Ka/Ku signals as 99/101 or 103/110&119, depending on the voltage/tone signal settings sent from the receiver.

The receiver has to know what type dsish you have so as to know how to interpret the signals coming down from the dish/mutliswitch. If you have a SL3 dish and it thinks you have a SL5 or sidercar, it will not realize that when it asks for 110 or 119 signals, it will in fact be getting 101. It will also incorrectly show 110/119 located channels as available in your guide when they are not available due to your having a SL3 that can't see 110/119. You can try to tune them, but you will get whatever 101 channel that uses the same transponder on 101 as the chaanel it thinks it is getting would use on 110 or 119.