View Full Version : Pay Per View is now "DIRECTV Cinema."
Stuart Sweet
05-21-09, 09:19 AM
DIRECTV is rebranding its pay-per-view options as "DIRECTV Cinema."
If you take a look here:
https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/listing/ppvMovies.jsp
You'll see that Seven Pounds, premiering this week, has a little logo identifying it as "DIRECTV Cinema."
This is DIRECTV's new branding for all Pay-Per-View movies. As far as I know it's a name change; policies will not change.
Aztec Pilot
05-21-09, 09:20 AM
I like it!
Hutchinshouse
05-21-09, 09:22 AM
Not bad. Much better than "PPV"
roadrunner1782
05-21-09, 09:24 AM
I think it's a good change. I've never really liked the term pay per view mainly because to me it has always sounded like "paper" view.:D
turey22
05-21-09, 09:26 AM
SOUNDS EXOTIC! :)
Sounds good to me... Just which they would restructure their price too. Or at least give me a 7 day rental for $5.99:)
litzdog911
05-21-09, 09:33 AM
Until they're able to cut a deal with Hollywood and change the 24-hr viewing rules, I doubt I'll be using it, even with the new name.
Wisegoat
05-21-09, 09:35 AM
Until they're able to cut a deal with Hollywood and change the 24-hr viewing rules, I doubt I'll be using it, even with the new name.
Me too. I have a 2 year old. We can't even watch an hour of CSI in one night, let alone a 2 hour movie!
Please give us 7 days!
Well isn't that GAY! Not that there is anything wrong with that :D
celticpride
05-21-09, 09:43 AM
I like the new name,but it dont matter to me anyway as i never use pay per view. (unless directv gives me a free coupon.)
tarbilly
05-21-09, 10:00 AM
What would be nice if Direc** would offer in there cinema would be what some of the hotels does is be able to watch movies that is out in theaters now or in between theater and dvd.I have rented movies in hotels thats was still in the theater and I thought it was awsome.Having said that the rental price was higher (ex. $10.99) but it would be cool to stay at home and watch than spend the gas and 3 to 4 movie ticket prices . But it just a thought maybe one day we can do that. Any Thoughts?
jbeskow
05-21-09, 10:02 AM
Me too. I have a 2 year old. We can't even watch an hour of CSI in one night, let alone a 2 hour movie!
Please give us 7 days!
Good to see we are not the only ones. We have a 8 year old (in multiple sports) and 2 year old and my wife works 12 hour shifts as a nurse switching between days and nights regularly so it can easily be a week before we are able to watch a 2 hour long movie together. Sometimes we'll start it but one of us starts falling asleep and it will be another 4 days before we get another chance to sit down and watch it together again.
I will never buy a movie through DirecTV until the movie studios lift the 24 hour expiration.
Spicoli
05-21-09, 10:03 AM
Sounds good to me... Just which they would restructure their price too. Or at least give me a 7 day rental for $5.99:)
I agree! I used to order PPV all the time, but since the price has gone up the wife and I have been going back to Blockbuster. Cheaper prices and can keep it for a longer period of time.
yep, all channels changed yesterday (5/20) at 6am.
trainman
05-21-09, 10:07 AM
Does this mean they're going to start charging $5.00 to eat popcorn during the movie?
Stuart Sweet
05-21-09, 10:09 AM
Not impossible :)
Also I expect that someone will bring a screaming child into your home and talk on his cellphone while you're watching.
Greg Alsobrook
05-21-09, 10:17 AM
I like the new name... :)
bjamin82
05-21-09, 10:18 AM
Cool... much better than PPV
dpfaunts
05-21-09, 10:19 AM
Does this mean they're going to start charging $5.00 to eat popcorn during the movie?
That would be for a small, large $7.50 but sometimes they might offer a popcorn soft drink combo. :lol:
I do like the name Cinema, much better for marketing.
Ira Lacher
05-21-09, 10:20 AM
If they can offer a cinema-like experience, the name change will be a positive. But I learned a long time ago in my career as a marketing consultant that you'd better be prepared to deliver on all the implications of a name change, or it will bite you where it hurts the most!
Call it whatever you want - I won't be using it with the 24 hour rule.
PCampbell
05-21-09, 10:29 AM
New name same show. Netflix is better for me, I dont like the 24hr limit.
bjdotson
05-21-09, 10:30 AM
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
shedberg
05-21-09, 10:34 AM
Sounds good to me. I don't normally buy though because I always have something taped I want to watch.
digitalfreak
05-21-09, 10:37 AM
yippie :rolleyes:
Herdfan
05-21-09, 10:42 AM
Until they're able to cut a deal with Hollywood and change the 24-hr viewing rules, I doubt I'll be using it, even with the new name.
Same here. Actually, after spending a winter as a full-time swim parent, there was very little time to watch movies. So there were no rentals from BB or D*.
So what happened is that now the movies I wanted to rent, are now on HBO/Starz so I can now record them and watch them as my schedule allows. If you can go 3-4 months after DVD/PPV release, then you have it made.
For much less $$$, we use Blockbuster's "Blu-Ray by mail" service. Until they make the prices competitive, I don't really care what DirectTV calls it.
DCSholtis
05-21-09, 11:01 AM
Not impossible :)
Also I expect that someone will bring a screaming child into your home and talk on his cellphone while you're watching.
That's what will happen when they premiere "Drag Me To Hell" on Directv Cinema. :D
timmmaaayyy2003
05-21-09, 11:05 AM
Yay...Let the pigeons loose.:dozey:
miedwards72
05-21-09, 11:11 AM
It's just a name! Will it save me money? Will it be cheaper? You can put a turd on a tuxedo but the fact is its still a turd! :)
mx6bfast
05-21-09, 11:28 AM
These channels will still not be viewable in my guide no matter what they call it.
Jaspear
05-21-09, 11:32 AM
If they can offer a cinema-like experience, the name change will be a positive. But I learned a long time ago in my career as a marketing consultant that you'd better be prepared to deliver on all the implications of a name change, or it will bite you where it hurts the most!
So, will we now be offered movies with the same aspect ratio as seen in theaters, you know..... that "cinema like experience"?
Just wondering. ;)
Why would they change the name of something that is already an industry standard across the board? I can see people calling customer service with the following conversation:
Customer: What's this Directv Cinema thing?
CSR: It's an exciting service from Directv that allows you to rent movies for a 24 hour period right in your home.
Customer: Oh, you mean like a PPV?
It would be like GM telling people they don't sell cars, they sell GM Moving Vehicles.
In the grand scheme of things, this is very minor, but I just don't get it.
DC_SnDvl
05-21-09, 11:36 AM
WOW!!! :lol:
Great new name for same old overpriced service with only 24 hours to watch.
I'll stick with Blockbuster Blu-Rays. i have a week to watch them and I know they will be OAR.
spartanstew
05-21-09, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the info Stuart.
crabtrp
05-21-09, 11:55 AM
They can call it whatever they want. For the price they charge for an HD movie they know where they can shove it. For the price of 3 or 4 movies I can get a heck of a lot more from Netflix in a month.
zimm7778
05-21-09, 11:57 AM
yay, the changed the name. It's still a ripoff. What next? NFL Sunday Ticket Superdiehard Cinema?
Crow159
05-21-09, 12:00 PM
Why would they change the name of something that is already an industry standard across the board? I can see people calling customer service with the following conversation:
Customer: What's this Directv Cinema thing?
CSR: It's an exciting service from Directv that allows you to rent movies for a 24 hour period right in your home.
Customer: Oh, you mean like a PPV?
It would be like GM telling people they don't sell cars, they sell GM Moving Vehicles.
In the grand scheme of things, this is very minor, but I just don't get it.
Marketing
Why have PPV when you can have "Directv Cinema".
Why have DLB when you can have "Doubleplay".
Why have PC playback of shows when you can have "Directv2PC".
I'm sure they have a name for MRV just waiting in the wings.
Soon we'll have "Directv Who's Calling" for Caller ID, "Directv Two-Tuner" so we can record two shows at the same time, and "Directv Bathroom Break" otherwise known as the pause button.:D
dcowboy7
05-21-09, 12:33 PM
Now i will definately have to start ordering these non OAR movies....NOT !!!
DIRECTV's attempt at "polishing a turd"?
spartanstew
05-21-09, 12:43 PM
I think we need a few more comments on why people don't like PPV/D*Cinema :rolleyes:
I think we need a few more comments on why people don't like PPV/D*Cinema :rolleyes:
Ok, I'll start. I don't like D* PPV because... just kidding. :rolleyes:
yay, the changed the name. It's still a ripoff. What next? NFL Sunday Ticket Superdiehard Cinema?
:lol: Nice.
rajeshh
05-21-09, 12:57 PM
How about DirecTV Multiplex Cinema or DirecTV CinePlex? to imply multiple movies going at the same time?
I think we need a few more comments on why people don't like PPV/D*Cinema :rolleyes:
Why not?.In More Info it says "In the future you will need a High Speed Internet connection to access PPV with the remote control".So that means no easy access to order PPV by remote with the phone line anymore(781),Oops! DirecTV Cinema.
So you will have to order DirecTV Cinema from www.directv.com or call DirecTV and pay the phone line order fee.:confused:
spartanstew
05-21-09, 01:04 PM
Why not?.
Because there's been numerous threads on why people don't like/don't use PPV, and frankly it's been beaten to death. This thread is supposed to be about the renaming of it.
I don't use PPV either (for most of the reasons mentioned), but that doesn't mean I have to chime in on every thread related to it and rehash the points that have already been made ad nauseum. Sometimes things just need to be given a rest.
I think we need a few more comments on why people don't like PPV/D*Cinema :rolleyes:
Nah, lets have a few more comments praising how wonderful the name change is.
spartanstew
05-21-09, 01:08 PM
Nah, lets have a few more comments praising how wonderful the name change is.
Umm, the name change is what the thread's about. If you don't like the name, express your opinion on the matter. But, since according the the first post, nothing else is changing, why continue to comment on other things about this feature that have been beaten to death.
Umm, the name change is what the thread's about.
And part of the discussion is how the heavy handed policies did not change while the name did.
TBlazer07
05-21-09, 01:12 PM
The shudda called it Pay Per Brrrripppp ? Yea, I know, no brrriiipppping on PPV, I mean DirecTV Cinema ... was just kidding.
spartanstew
05-21-09, 01:13 PM
And part of the discussion is how the heavy handed policies did not change while the name did.
You think D* is going to lift the 24 hour rule? Or lower the price?
Seriously, other than complaining for the sake of complaining, what's the point?
Oh joy...another reason for Directv to add more PPV Channels. /yawn
dcowboy7
05-21-09, 01:21 PM
I think we need a few more comments on why people don't like PPV/D*Cinema :rolleyes:
ok....i dont like that basically movies start on 15 minute intervals....i would like some to start at oh lets say 9:23pm. :D
Because there's been numerous threads on why people don't like/don't use PPV, and frankly it's been beaten to death. This thread is supposed to be about the renaming of it.
I don't use PPV either (for most of the reasons mentioned), but that doesn't mean I have to chime in on every thread related to it and rehash the points that have already been made ad nauseum. Sometimes things just need to be given a rest.
OK! Sounds good! Name Change?Good!;)
Everything else?.:confused:
There's still one hair on that horse!.:beatdeadhorse:;)
The shudda called it Pay Per Brrrripppp ? Yea, I know, no brrriiipppping on PPV, I mean DirecTV Cinema ... was just kidding.
Au contraire! We ordered a movie the other day and heard the loudest brrrrippp we've ever heard on D*. It was during the end credits, so no big deal, but it can still happen on pay per view....I mean....cinema.
Surveyor40
05-21-09, 01:48 PM
Awesome name, terms not so.
jclewter79
05-21-09, 02:01 PM
D* could just do the 24 hour limt on the movies that specifically required it. That is what other providers do but, I guess they just don't care. I would go a long way toward makiing people understand it is a studio thing and not a D* thing because, on some of the movies laziness is the only reason that they have a 24 hour limit.
Stuart Sweet
05-21-09, 02:21 PM
As far as I know, per the agreements with the content providers, the 24 hour rule exists in every case.
dreadlk
05-21-09, 02:39 PM
It always amazes me how even the mega huge companies with all the "Brain's" behind them still make the same mistakes that the Mom and Pop businesses make!
Take your Mom and Pop restaurant that is not doing so well, they start to change things around grasping at a solution to increase business, they offer free soup, free deserts, they change the opening hours, bigger signs, etc. they do everything but change the lousy food which is why the people don't come in the first place. (Example taken from numerous episodes of Ramsey’s Kitchen Nightmares)
Directv is exactly the same, they are changing the name, because the "Pay" in “Pay Per View”, they figure is frightening away people!
HELLO DIRECTV :bonk1: it's not the name PPV thats the problem, it's the high prices and short viewing time that is keeping people away!
Unless it means lower prices, It won't make any difference what thay call it, it will still be too expensive.
spartanstew
05-21-09, 02:48 PM
It always amazes me how even the mega huge companies with all the "Brain's" behind them still make the same mistakes that the Mom and Pop businesses make!
Take your Mom and Pop restaurant that is not doing so well, they start to change things around grasping at a solution to increase business, they offer free soup, free deserts, they change the opening hours, bigger signs, etc. they do everything but change the lousy food which is why the people don't come in the first place. (Example taken from numerous episodes of Ramsey’s Kitchen Nightmares)
Directv is exactly the same, they are changing the name, because the "Pay" in “Pay Per View”, they figure is frightening away people!
HELLO DIRECTV it's not the name PPV thats the problem, it's the high prices and short viewing time that is keeping people away!
First off, your example makes no sense since D* is doing well. Second, you have no idea why they decided to change it to a more marketing friendly name. Is it because of the word "pay"? I doubt it. They want to identify everything they do with better nomenclature (double play, for example). I doubt it has anything to do with how well the company's doing or because people are being "frightened" away. If that were the case, nobody would call it PPV.
What amazes me is how J6P continues to jump in threads and assume they know why D* is doing things and they're ideas would always be better.
PS. No matter how much members continue to beat this horse, the prices aren't going to go down and the 24 hour limit is not going away.
hdtvfan0001
05-21-09, 03:01 PM
The new name pretty much makes sense....and taking the word "pay" obviously is a good psychological idea (from a marketing perspective anyway...).
Piratefan98
05-21-09, 03:09 PM
This is ****ing huge!!
Pass the tequila and light the cigars!
Jeff
JACKIEGAGA
05-21-09, 03:10 PM
Yes I really like the new name change
LOCODUDE
05-21-09, 03:25 PM
Not impossible :)
Also I expect that someone will bring a screaming child into your home and talk on his cellphone while you're watching.
!rollingNice one !rolling
islesfan
05-21-09, 03:52 PM
Don't care what they call it. As long as it's $6 for 24 hours, I'm not playing. HBO or DVD for me only.
digitalfreak
05-21-09, 04:24 PM
PS. No matter how much members continue to beat this horse, the prices aren't going to go down and the 24 hour limit is not going away.
...and I still ain't gonna f****** buy it. :nono:
I can remember when I got my bill every month there was a coupon for a free ppv. those were the good ol days.
dreadlk
05-21-09, 04:56 PM
Really cute how you take something out of context;)
Directv is not doing well with PPV and you know thats what I mean. And I know this how? Somebody who works for the company in a technical capacity told me that they are not very happy with the Revenue being generated by PPV, as a matter of fact it's considered one of their slowest growth areas after the dismal Games section.
So Yes they are changing the Name to get rid of the word "Pay", because they feel that people flee from the words "Pay Per View" like they do from the words "Swine Flu".
First off, your example makes no sense since D* is doing well. Second, you have no idea why they decided to change it to a more marketing friendly name. Is it because of the word "pay"? I doubt it. They want to identify everything they do with better nomenclature (double play, for example). I doubt it has anything to do with how well the company's doing or because people are being "frightened" away. If that were the case, nobody would call it PPV.
What amazes me is how J6P continues to jump in threads and assume they know why D* is doing things and they're ideas would always be better.
PS. No matter how much members continue to beat this horse, the prices aren't going to go down and the 24 hour limit is not going away.
deweydm
05-21-09, 04:57 PM
What, Convenient but Expensive Short Term Rental was taken? ;-)
dreadlk
05-21-09, 05:03 PM
You sir may not want to beat the Horse but myself and many others will keep talking with our wallets and Boycott buying any PPV for these rip off prices.
PS. No matter how much members continue to beat this horse, the prices aren't going to go down and the 24 hour limit is not going away.
mreposter
05-21-09, 05:17 PM
The new name is nice, but I'd really prefer that ax a few of these PPV/Directv Cinema channels and add some national HDs. BBC-America is going HD this summer, that's what I really want, not a bunch of restrictive, overpriced PPVs.
coolyman
05-21-09, 05:48 PM
I think it's gay and I'm still not using it.
Aren't there more than movies on PPV.
Kinda wierd watching Wrestlemania LXXIV on Directv Cinema
looney2ns
05-21-09, 06:09 PM
Why would they change the name of something that is already an industry standard across the board? I can see people calling customer service with the following conversation:
Customer: What's this Directv Cinema thing?
CSR: It's an exciting service from Directv that allows you to rent movies for a 24 hour period right in your home.
Customer: Oh, you mean like a PPV?
It would be like GM telling people they don't sell cars, they sell GM Moving Vehicles.
In the grand scheme of things, this is very minor, but I just don't get it.
Exactly...
kevinwmsn
05-21-09, 06:18 PM
I don't get the name change either. Cable and I think Dish still call it pay per view, why call it something different? It will just call confusion for the average person. I wonder what they will call the other pay per view special events like boxing and wrestling, maybe directtv arena/coliseum? The price is way too high and the 24 hr thing turns me off. Yes I do subscribe to netflix too.
dcowboy7
05-21-09, 06:24 PM
Aren't there more than movies on PPV.
Kinda wierd watching Wrestlemania LXXIV on Directv Cinema
They only renamed the channels that show only movies.
Those other channels are still called ppv....for now at least.
Jimmy 440
05-21-09, 06:28 PM
By any other name it is still PPV ! I haven't bought a PPV in almost 7 years.
Bout time they gussied it up some I reckon, it's still PPV and I wish they would work on gettin' more national HD channels instead of screwing around with this. But hey whatever.
spartanstew
05-21-09, 07:18 PM
You sir may not want to beat the Horse but myself and many others will keep talking with our wallets and Boycott buying any PPV for these rip off prices.
And I do the same exact thing. I just don't see the point in jumping in every thread that mentions PPV and voicing all my complaints. It gets old and serves no purpose. None.
dcowboy7
05-21-09, 07:27 PM
More people have posted in this thread than have bought a ppv this month. :lol:
NOLANSKI
05-21-09, 08:11 PM
YYYYYAAAAAWWWWNNNNNN:nono:
$6?
NetFlix + BluRay= better everything.
>>>Sound<<<
>>>Picture<<<
>>>>>SELECTION<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>$$$<<<
Now what were we talking about?
Really cute how you take something out of context;)
Directv is not doing well with PPV and you know thats what I mean. And I know this how? Somebody who works for the company in a technical capacity told me that they are not very happy with the Revenue being generated by PPV, as a matter of fact it's considered one of their slowest growth areas after the dismal Games section.
So Yes they are changing the Name to get rid of the word "Pay", because they feel that people flee from the words "Pay Per View" like they do from the words "Swine Flu".
Exactly what I thought when I saw this. They are trying to soften up the words just like the politicians do(ie. torture = enhanced interrogation techniques), but it's harder to do because it directly effects the customer immediately in their pocket book. The Movie PPV costs have gotten out of control no amount of word softening will fix that. IMHO, They would be better off adding more premium channels than continuing to add more ppv channels. Waste of bandwidth if it's really doing that poorly and then also they should focus on the UFC/MMA/WWE PPV's instead of more movie ppv. As I understand it those "event" type of PPV's bring in more money for DirecTV per buy than the movie ppv's. Please correct if I'm wrong on that assumption.
Beerhouse
05-21-09, 08:34 PM
Breathtaking!
TBlazer07
05-21-09, 08:57 PM
Nahhhh, You must be brrriiippp'in me! :lol:
Au contraire! We ordered a movie the other day and heard the loudest brrrrippp we've ever heard on D*. It was during the end credits, so no big deal, but it can still happen on pay per view....I mean....cinema.
jclewter79
05-21-09, 09:10 PM
As far as I know, per the agreements with the content providers, the 24 hour rule exists in every case.
If that is true, why does E* not enforce the 24 hour rule on all movies? Sometimes it is enforced on the HD versions of a movie and not the SD version of the same movie or vice versa? Either D* does not want to take the time to sort though the difference or E* is breaking the rules? Or, maybe E* just gets a better deal from the studios?
SatliteHD
05-21-09, 09:13 PM
They took away the word "Pay" to make it look less pricey. Smart move lol.
Shades228
05-21-09, 09:25 PM
If that is true, why does E* not enforce the 24 hour rule on all movies? Sometimes it is enforced on the HD versions of a movie and not the SD version of the same movie or vice versa? Either D* does not want to take the time to sort though the difference or E* is breaking the rules? Or, maybe E* just gets a better deal from the studios?
They have enabled it so if they're not enforcing it then they're in violation of the drm agreements. That said Dish isn't known for following policies until someone takes him to court and he loses the ability to have it.
jclewter79
05-21-09, 09:29 PM
They have enabled it so if they're not enforcing it then they're in violation of the drm agreements. That said Dish isn't known for following policies until someone takes him to court and he loses the ability to have it.
Well, maybe but that remains to be seen. You would think we would have heard something about it by now if they were not doing it right. I don't think that it is an across the board requirment yet. Just maybe easier to do it across the board.
inkahauts
05-21-09, 09:33 PM
Ok, I like the new name, but now they have to reinvent how its charged and how many programs you can see, etc...
Really cute how you take something out of context;)
Directv is not doing well with PPV and you know thats what I mean. And I know this how? Somebody who works for the company in a technical capacity told me that they are not very happy with the Revenue being generated by PPV, as a matter of fact it's considered one of their slowest growth areas after the dismal Games section.
So Yes they are changing the Name to get rid of the word "Pay", because they feel that people flee from the words "Pay Per View" like they do from the words "Swine Flu".
Then maybe the Directv executives should grow a brain and not have 30+ hd ppv channels...
freewillie
05-22-09, 03:52 AM
Any one with DVR can record the movie and watch it anytime they want too. I just purchased Quantum of solace and im still able to view it after a week later.
Unless they restructure their pricing model, I don't think the name change will prompt me to make any purchases. For the price of less than 3 movies, I get to watch as many thru NetFlix.
The limits imposed by the movie studios on Directv are just too restrictive.
MLBurks
05-22-09, 04:54 AM
I like the name change. But it's not going to make me purchase more movies than I already do which is maybe 1 every other month or so.
jdh8668
05-22-09, 06:33 AM
They can call it "Fred" for all I care. With their high price and 24 hour time period restriction, I will never be using it.
jclewter79
05-22-09, 07:45 AM
Any one with DVR can record the movie and watch it anytime they want too. I just purchased Quantum of solace and im still able to view it after a week later.
But after you begin play back for the first time, you only get 24 hours to watch it and after that time the recording becomes unplayble. This is the 24 hour limit that people are speaking of.
But after you begin play back for the first time, you only get 24 hours to watch it and after that time the recording becomes unplayble. This is the 24 hour limit that people are speaking of.
Yep.
We have a 2 year old and finding the time to watch a PPV movie is difficult enough without a 24 hour limit. Plus, for the price DirecTV charges, I can just go rent a movie from Red Box and keep it for a week. So for me this is all a big "meh."
paulman182
05-22-09, 08:33 AM
The name change makes no difference to me.
We occasionally buy a PPV because they replace the terms "go," "mail," "DVD," and "wait" with "now," and "HD."
DrummerBoy523
05-22-09, 09:15 AM
call it what they want, I'll never order one.
call it what they want, I'll never order one.
I think I may be in the same boat.
Although, I have ordered one... which I didnt pay for. (Had a nice coupon from D*) :grin:
I dont plan on ordering... specially with netflix!
Not impossible :)
Also I expect that someone will bring a screaming child into your home and talk on his cellphone while you're watching.
Umm...no one has to bring that to my house...it's a standard feature. We even have the joy of gummies stuck to the carpet and seats.
The service just isn't appealing to us as we have NetFlix available through our HTPC for about the same cost as a single PPV. With the kid's movies we easily watch 20 streamed movies a month and get the stuff my wife and I sometimes get to watch on BD. NetFlix is also the reason we've cut all premiums and the HD Extra pack...DirecTV needs to find a way to compete with that service I don't think a name change is going to do it.
man_rob
05-22-09, 10:07 AM
Reminds me of a picture I saw. It was er..um..some dog droppings, coated with rainbow jimmies, captioned, "Now With Sprinkles!"
Max Mike
05-22-09, 11:03 AM
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
And a overpriced stinker is still a stinker.
mreposter
05-22-09, 11:34 AM
When I first joined Directv back in 2000 there were plenty of PPV movie selections beginning at $1.99. Now the cheapest price seems to be $4.99. McDonalds Red Box is $1 and many drug stores and grocery stores offer $1 or $1.99 rentals. With Netflix you get a full-featured DVD with high quality picture and full surround sound with all the extras.
$4.99 or $5.99 may be a bargain compared to the cost of going to a movie theater - even matinee shows are around $7.50 these days, but PPV still feels overpriced.
Sure, the new name sounds more upscale, but it doesn't really change the actual product much. Harkening back to before the turn of the century, I remember when HBO first started running the animated HBO/neighborhood promo before the start of the 8pm movie. It added drama and anticipation to watching the movie and made it more like going out to a cool theater.
They can call it "Fred" for all I care. With their high price and 24 hour time period restriction, I will never be using it.
From the Book of Fred: "My name is not to be used in a humorous manner." :lol:
Rich
I can't order Directv Cinema because my spending limits on each receiver is set to 1 buck and i can't rember how to change it.:confused:
curbside
05-22-09, 12:01 PM
I think it's gay and I'm still not using it.
Some straight guy probably thought it up trying to hide the "Pay" part of the name. It's overpriced and I haven't used it for quite some time now.
kfcrosby
05-22-09, 12:54 PM
DIRECTV is rebranding its pay-per-view options as "DIRECTV Cinema."
Yawn
runner26
05-22-09, 01:27 PM
Yeah, this has been my biggest problem with D*, I didn't care for ppv being called ppv. What a huge relief, this horrible problem has been addressed! Man, talk about re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!
dreadlk
05-22-09, 03:32 PM
:D:D:D I liked that one :lol:
Now if they can also change the Dollar Amount per movie to Credit Points per movie ;) , they can start to fool people into purchasing movies at these insanely high prices
__________________________________________________ _______
DIRECTV Cinema Presents "Slum Dog Millionaire"
Now Only 25 Credits* with a Bonus 1440 Minutes of EXTRA Viewing Time
__________________________________________________ _______
* $12 per 50 credits used will be billed to your account:
__________________________________________________ _______
Yeah, this has been my biggest problem with D*, I didn't care for ppv being called ppv. What a huge relief, this horrible problem has been addressed! Man, talk about re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!
slowmoe
05-22-09, 04:09 PM
Just another way of the man trying to get my hard earned $4.95 & more for HD:icon_lame. For my movies its Netflex all the way & D* for my regular programing.
Castlebill
05-22-09, 04:28 PM
Some marketing crud get a bonus for this "idea"?
mreposter
05-22-09, 04:29 PM
I can't order Directv Cinema because my spending limits on each receiver is set to 1 buck and i can't rember how to change it.:confused:
1. Menu button on remote control
2. Parental, Fav's & Setup
3. Parental Controls
4. Edit Settings
5. Spending
runner26
05-22-09, 04:33 PM
Great quote! I haven't heard that one before but very true.
ThomasM
05-22-09, 05:28 PM
They change the name periodically (remember "DirecTicket PPV" or "Blockbuster PPV"?) but it's still the same overpriced service that in the past at least you could watch for more than 24 hours.
But I'm not complaining....there are plenty of suckers, er I mean SUBSCRIBERS who participate which just might keep the price of the regular packages a little lower.
I will still wait until the movies show up on HBO, Cinemax, Starz or Showtime.
spiderman865
05-22-09, 07:00 PM
Could care less. I never use it.
This is ****ing huge!!
Pass the tequila and light the cigars!
Jeff
Freakin Classic!
Tequila and Cigars in huge mode!
Marcus S
05-22-09, 09:04 PM
Nice idea but it's not going to get me to purchase another PPV ever with the PPV rental limit of 24 hours. I realize that was not DirecTV's decission, but my decission remains also un-movable as long as the limit remains.
I use to do all of my movie watching on DirecTV PPV till NetFlix opened a distribution facility in GA (at the time that was the closest) in April 2003. I have not ordered a single PPV since.
DawgLink
05-23-09, 01:26 PM
I use to do all of my movie watching on DirecTV PPV till NetFlix opened a distribution facility in GA (at the time that was the closest) in April 2003. I have not ordered a single PPV since.
I am more and more becoming a Netflix Online Streaming guy but until they put more up, I prefer the PPV channels
dubber deux
05-23-09, 03:15 PM
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Did D* actually pay a consulting firm to come up with this novel idea? WTF!
It was a waste if you ask me.
I have never ordered a PPV movie. Not when I could get a cheaper and higher quality version of the same movie from Netflix or my corner Blockbuster. I refused to overpay.
But once DirecTV renamed it's Pay Per View offering "DirecTV Cinema" I'm hooked. I can't stop ordering them, the name is just so appealing. I'm going broke ordering "DirecTV Cinema" movies and I just can't stop. It's become an addiction. Damn you DirecTV Cinema!!!! :new_cussi :p
dubber deux
05-23-09, 08:08 PM
OMG are you the idiot consultant that D* paid buku bucks to so they could come up with a "magic jack" name to remedy the lack of PPV customers ? LOL j/k
(-:
mikepax
05-24-09, 04:42 AM
Good name, but as others have said...same product, different name. It's been years since I have ordered one...price, 24 hours to view. Thats why we went with Netflix.
Christopher Gould
05-24-09, 06:36 AM
this thread is a fine example of the noise to signal ratio on this site. :(
The 24-hr rule (admittedly not DirecTV 's fault) and the outrageous pricing lead me to abandon PPV or "DirecTV Cinema" in favor of a NetFlix subscription, a Blu-Ray player, and PlayOn software thru my HR20 PVR.
Now, for less than $15/month, I can watch as many movies as I want, at any time that I want, as many times as I want, from their Instant View library. I can also receive dozens of Blu-Ray and other DVD's each month and keep them as long as I want (two at a time). I hardly even watch HBO and Showtime movies anymore.
The 24-hr rule has changed the competitive landscape. It seems odd to me that I can watch any instant view movie on NetFlix as many times as I want for the one fixed monthly fee. Yet, DirecTV charges me a new fee every 24 hrs for the same thing.
It's a name change that's most likely the pre-cursor to a new marketing push. The simple fact that the name is changing is NOT the end-game, so I think it's quite amusing that folks think that the name change in and of itself is what's going to get people to purchase more PPV. I know I won't be purchasing PPV, but it's still smart of DIRECTV to try to reinvent the "service" to attract new customers, and perhaps the name change is just the tip of the iceberg and there will be other changes: 24 hour rental to 48 perhaps? Who knows ...
hdtvfan0001
05-24-09, 09:13 AM
It's a name change that's most likely the pre-cursor to a new marketing push. The simple fact that the name is changing is NOT the end-game, so I think it's quite amusing that folks think that the name change in and of itself is what's going to get people to purchase more PPV. I know I won't be purchasing PPV, but it's still smart of DIRECTV to try to reinvent the "service" to attract new customers, and perhaps the name change is just the tip of the iceberg and there will be other changes: 24 hour rental to 48 perhaps? Who knows ...
I agree with all of Drew's points, including the speculation that more changes may come.
It's a name change that's most likely the pre-cursor to a new marketing push. The simple fact that the name is changing is NOT the end-game, so I think it's quite amusing that folks think that the name change in and of itself is what's going to get people to purchase more PPV. I know I won't be purchasing PPV, but it's still smart of DIRECTV to try to reinvent the "service" to attract new customers, and perhaps the name change is just the tip of the iceberg and there will be other changes: 24 hour rental to 48 perhaps? Who knows ...
Unfortunately, the 24-hr rule is not up to DirecTV. I understood this was a licensing requirement of the movie industry itelf (MPAA?). The rule does not just affect DirecTV but Dish and TiVo as well.
I haven't ordered a ppv movie in over 10 yrs, I don't even have a phone wire hooked to the pc, what ever happoned to the 2 free coupons we got ever month and you had all month to use them, back then a movie cost $2.99, but those good old days are gone.
DIRECTV is rebranding its pay-per-view options as "DIRECTV Cinema."
If you take a look here:
https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/listing/ppvMovies.jsp
You'll see that Seven Pounds, premiering this week, has a little logo identifying it as "DIRECTV Cinema."
This is DIRECTV's new branding for all Pay-Per-View movies. As far as I know it's a name change; policies will not change.
I don't care what it is called I won't participate.
Piratefan98
05-25-09, 06:08 PM
Perhaps they could re-re-brand the HD offerings as "DirecTV Turbo Cinema".
Madison Avenue Jeff
How about 'DirecTV national movie replacement channels'
dcowboy7
05-25-09, 06:50 PM
Their commercial says the directv cinema channels are like 125 thru 199....but 2 adult channels 195 & 196 still say PPV....so its not really 125 thru 199.
The Merg
05-26-09, 03:41 PM
They can call it whatever they want... My Favorites list on my receiver will still be labeled "PPV"! :D
- Merg
displacedbrett
05-27-09, 02:03 PM
Has anybody seen the new commercial spot for DTV Cinema? I don't watch enough off-kilter movies to really need NetFlix, plus with PPV (I guess I should say "Cinema" now) I can record it to my DVR and keep it forever, which is nice since I don't have a DVD burner...so anyway, I like the service....certainly much better than my old in-demand with cable.
I've got a video for this commercial posted here. (http://displacedbrett.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/jet-stream/) I also was pleasantly surprised that they used the song "Electromagnetic Superstar" by Jet Stream in the background. I live in LA and they're one of my favorite bands out here, it's good to see that they're getting some national attention.
Has anybody seen the new commercial spot for DTV Cinema? I don't watch enough off-kilter movies to really need NetFlix, plus with PPV (I guess I should say "Cinema" now) I can record it to my DVR and keep it forever, which is nice since I don't have a DVD burner...so anyway, I like the service....certainly much better than my old in-demand with cable.Unless something's changed, you really can't keep PPV on your DVR forever. The offerings have expiration dates, at which point they are deleted, and on top of that, once you pay for it and watch it the first time, you only have 24 hours for repeated viewings, at witch time you have to pay for it again.
displacedbrett
05-27-09, 02:34 PM
Hmm maybe you're right. Off the record, I did have a techie friend of mine mod my DVR box....so maybe that's why I can keep watching them?
dcowboy7
05-28-09, 09:03 AM
When u bring up the program guide & then hit the yellow button the 4th option still says "pay per view"....they didnt change it there yet.
i can live with 24 hours. But the price has to come way down. Most people I know associate "Pay Per View" with "Ripoff", and just changing the name isn't going to solve that.
Mike Bertelson
05-29-09, 05:27 AM
This isn't too bad. Anything is better then PPV. :grin:
ironwood
05-30-09, 12:47 PM
Good marketing move. Remove word PAY. Now people just think about watching movie in the Cinema instead of PAYING. Very smart.
A rip off by any name is still a rip off :raspberry I don't use it and I don't care what they call it :barf:
dubber deux
05-30-09, 09:14 PM
A rip off by any name is still a rip off :raspberry I don't use it and I don't care what they call it :barf:
X eleventy billion.
It's the customer's choice if they want to pay for it, but it is a terrible value for your dollar.
Honestly I doubt if this rebranding gimmick will do anything to increase the number of purchases.
cowboys2002
06-02-09, 03:43 PM
In over 13 years, I have purchased 3 PPV's.
I don't care what they call it. Once they added that 24 hour flag (thanks studio's) that was the final straw for me. I don't have nay movie channels either (except during free previes) and at that time, I seldom find something worthy to record.
dubber deux
06-04-09, 01:47 AM
I definitely can agree about the movie packages like HBO, STARZ, ect....except for a few things here and there, and I really had to look, (sundance and IFC had a few things too..) and the amount of repitition and lack of variety (so many stupid lame comedies) I definitely cancelled after the three free months were up. Unfortunately I believe that D* actually charged me a fee to downgrade after the three free months?!?!?!?!
CoachGibbs
06-04-09, 09:55 AM
A rip off by any name is still a rip off :raspberry I don't use it and I don't care what they call it :barf:
I couldn't possibly agree more. It really annoys me how much space is wasted on PPV, especially on D11.
Somebody is buying it otherwise they wouldn't commit so much space to it sadly. I honestly can't believe too many people pay those outrageous prices for PPV movies when there are far cheaper alternatives.
dubber deux
06-04-09, 11:09 AM
I don't doubt that in the recent past quite a few people may have bought a ppv, however the economic situation is so radically different now that I have a hard time believing that many people are using it. It appears that D* is pushing it very hard only lately (because no one is actually using it now?)
D* should look into to changing their agreement with whomever is in control of the PPV operations in Hollywood.
My bet is that they could drastically reduce the number of PPV channels in the channel line up, since they probably are no longer being purchased that often by customers.
Christopher Gould
06-04-09, 07:33 PM
I don't doubt that in the recent past quite a few people may have bought a ppv, however the economic situation is so radically different now that I have a hard time believing that many people are using it. It appears that D* is pushing it very hard only lately (because no one is actually using it now?)
D* should look into to changing their agreement with whomever is in control of the PPV operations in Hollywood.
My bet is that they could drastically reduce the number of PPV channels in the channel line up, since they probably are no longer being purchased that often by customers.
in a bad econonmic situation the ppv is cheaper than the movies. by myself it was 17.50 (6.50ticket 11.00popcorn) now figure a family of 4. the ppv is a better deal.
dcowboy7
06-04-09, 07:40 PM
(6.50ticket 11.00popcorn).
WOW $11.00 !! i would do a george costanza & smuggle in something like candys in my jacket. :D
dubber deux
06-04-09, 09:46 PM
in a bad econonmic situation the ppv is cheaper than the movies. by myself it was 17.50 (6.50ticket 11.00popcorn) now figure a family of 4. the ppv is a better deal.
I didn't say the economy was "bad", I said it was RADICALLY different.
I doubt many families are debating whether to go to the theater or watch a PPV. It is more likely they are discussing whether they will keep satellite/cable or get rid of it. :eek2::(
in a bad econonmic situation the ppv is cheaper than the movies. by myself it was 17.50 (6.50ticket 11.00popcorn) now figure a family of 4. the ppv is a better deal.
$11.00 for popcorn?
I'd figure a way to last two hours without food.
photostudent
06-05-09, 06:03 AM
I admit to being a D* fanboy from way back but in the real world have been using Red Box for the few years. The other day I went into Blockbuster, (once a partner with D*) and they had dropped their price to $2/24hr rentals including BluRay. The manager said they plan to stay in the movie rental business and will likely make further price cuts. I am afraid DirecTV Cinema rentals will be limited to those who are still buying Hummers, (nothing wrong with that).
Drklazarus26
06-11-09, 12:03 AM
Good change. Makes me wanna rent a movie. I wont but it makes me wanna.
Hutchinshouse
06-11-09, 07:40 AM
I have a quick question. Within the "guide" none of the CNMAHD or CNMA channels have the little "$" logo next to the movie title. Any reason why?
mx6bfast
06-11-09, 10:31 AM
I have a quick question. Within the "guide" none of the CNMAHD or CNMA channels have the little "$" logo next to the movie title. Any reason why?
It's a trick, you watch it, then they charge you for it.
Hutchinshouse
06-11-09, 10:39 AM
It's a trick, you watch it, then they charge you for it.
:lol:
To me it just seems like the perfect location (within the guide) to utilize the "$" logo/tag.:whatdidid
paulman182
06-11-09, 02:48 PM
I would almost bet I'll be buying a PPV this weekend since I'm getting my first 1080p set on Saturday...and no other source for 1080p.
Hutchinshouse
06-11-09, 03:56 PM
I would almost bet I'll be buying a PPV this weekend since I'm getting my first 1080p set on Saturday...and no other source for 1080p.
For the price of 22 CNMAHD movies you can buy a Blu-ray player. :D
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2890
Good luck with your new TV!
paulman182
06-12-09, 03:48 AM
For the price of 22 CNMAHD movies you can buy a Blu-ray player. :D
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2890
Good luck with your new TV!
Thanks! Actually, I think I will be buying a Blu-ray player on Sunday...but I get the TV on Saturday!
Once i get the Blu-ray, we'll see how much I still like the premiums and PPVs, since I have Netflix already.
Hutchinshouse
06-12-09, 08:16 AM
Thanks! Actually, I think I will be buying a Blu-ray player on Sunday...but I get the TV on Saturday!
Once i get the Blu-ray, we'll see how much I still like the premiums and PPVs, since I have Netflix already.
Since you're already on Netflix, you should pickup a Blu-ray player that streams Netflix. It is pretty cool.
I got the Samsung BD-P2550 a few months back. Very happy with it. Streaming quality better than I expected.
Have fun on Saturday!
Force3dFX
06-12-09, 12:02 PM
Until they're able to cut a deal with Hollywood and change the 24-hr viewing rules, I doubt I'll be using it, even with the new name.
agreed and how about redbox pricing of a buck a night
Seen that in our local wal-mart ad. To bad the brand is terrible and I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole. Magnavox :down:
For the price of 22 CNMAHD movies you can buy a Blu-ray player. :D
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2890
Good luck with your new TV!
man_rob
06-12-09, 01:41 PM
Since you're already on Netflix, you should pickup a Blu-ray player that streams Netflix. It is pretty cool.
I got the Samsung BD-P2550 a few months back. Very happy with it. Streaming quality better than I expected.
Have fun on Saturday!
Walmart also has the Samsung BD-1590 (Really a BD1600, with a slight model # change for Walmart) $238. You get the Blu-Ray Live features, Streaming Netflix, and Pandora Radio.
paulman182
06-15-09, 04:45 AM
It turns out I was too busy to do a PPV this weekend or buy a Blu-ray player, although i did get the TV.
I'll probably order the Samsung BD-1600 from BB today.
It will be interesting to compare Blu-ray with DirecTV Cinema.
mx6bfast
06-15-09, 09:15 AM
It will be interesting to compare Blu-ray with DirecTV Cinema.
Just a guess, I bet blu-ray will look better.
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