622 recording 'all' COPS instead of selected 'new'

[tedb3rd]

Is it just me, or are there others out there where the DVR is recording 'all' events of the show "COPS" instead of just the 'new' episodes like I have selected?

I'm recording the local FOX-5 from Atlanta locals (off the satellite) w/ViP622. (Yes--I am certain I have selected 'new' instead of 'all'.) Out of all my recording events, this is the only show where it seems to do this. I've tried deleting and recreating the event several times without resolution.

I can do a weekly timer, but I would prefer not to get the re-runs. And COPS (at least in my market) almost always shows new episodes @ 8:00 and they seem to be about 50/50 (new/re-run) for the 8:30 slot.

[RickDee]

It depends on the guide information. If the guide indicates the episode is 'new' then it will record it and sometimes even if there are multiple 'new' episodes in the same day.

[Ron Barry]

As RickDee indicated, it most likely is an issue with the guide data. Either the Original air date or the show IDs are not correct and the VIP receivers error on the conservative side and record if the data is not accurate. THe only way to get around this, is to set weekly timer as you suggested.

There are a number of threads on this subject in this forum.

[tedb3rd]

Thanks for the info. I noticed that a lot of the guide data (on other shows) had 'New' in the description when appropriate. For the COPS episodes that are new, it has that and the original air date = today. On some of the older COPS shows (where it does record when it shouldn't) is just has the year (i.e., 1989) but for episode number it reads 'n/a'... I would think they would have had a few line of code that was something like this except in their own syntax:

If (Original Air Date) <> (Today) Then
Don't Record
End If

Anyways... At least I know now I don't have a fooed receiver.

[tnsprin]

Thanks for the info. I noticed that a lot of the guide data (on other shows) had 'New' in the description when appropriate. For the COPS episodes that are new, it has that and the original air date = today. On some of the older COPS shows (where it does record when it shouldn't) is just has the year (i.e., 1989) but for episode number it reads 'n/a'... I would think they would have had a few line of code that was something like this except in their own syntax:

If (Original Air Date) <> (Today) Then
Don't Record
End If

Anyways... At least I know now I don't have a fooed receiver.

It actually never checks the air date. Just the indicator that the episode is new. And if no episode is indicated it seems to always considered it new. The actual info it checks is normally never displayed except if you get one of the test releases that they sometimes send to people who are regular beta testers and sometimes if you report a bug and then agree to test a fix for them.

[CABill]

The receiver will check the Original Air Date to determine whether to record something for a "New" timer. It needs to do so because a lot of times, it needs to be recorded on a day that isn't "today". It won't ever check the text in the description for a timer - the description content is only checked on a DishPASS.

The info that is actually checked may differ from the displayed OAD and episode number, but 99% of the time you can glean the receiver behavior from those two displayed items. There can't ever be a single field that indicates "this is THE episode that should qualify as NEW" for a timer.

The Daily Show is a frequent issue that does the same thing as described here when Episode is N/A. Even when Episode is present (correct), you would want the receiver to record an episode for a New timer on a date when OAD != Today. I'm Pacific time, so the Daily Show usually has several repeats of the previous day's show during the day, and then will air the new episode at 8PM and 11PM. I change my Timer to dead last priority because it can always be skipped for any conflict at 8PM. Sometimes, the 11PM also gets skipped, and the episode records at 5AM the next day. No matter why the 8PM showing doesn't record, you want the receiver to record THAT episode whenever it can, regardless. The 11PM showing will still be "today" for Pacific time zone, but others will be the next day - as will my 5AM recordings.

Pick some other scenario that makes you fail to get a recording. Assume no UPS and a power failure from 8PM-11PM on a Wed night causes you to miss all scheduled recordings. If any episode from one of the missed Timers will repeat in the next few days, it will automatically record for a New timer. At times, there are Sat repeats of shows - they will be used where OAD is within a few days of today (even times when OAD is "tomorrow").

Although it may be technically imprecise because other internal fields are used, you should expect the receiver to record any airing for that show if you didn't already record that episode number. The recording itself may not still be on the drive, but the History will still retain the info that you started recording show ID X, Episode Y for several days after you do record. Having a History entry of "Skipped by priority" won't prevent recording a repeat airing of that episode days later as a "New" episode. Where Episode number is N/A, there is nothing to compare to and they err on the safe side by recording it.

If OAD is farther away from today by "too much", it won't record. That will prevent recording a duplicate a week or more later than OAD. If you didn't even set a timer for some new show until after OAD, you can set one a day or two after the 1st airing of Episode 1 to get New episodes starting next Wed with #2. If #1 happens to re-air on Sat, it will also get recorded. If episode #1 re-airs an hour before the next week's #2, it gets grey as to whether it will still qualify for "New" as a timer.