Sen.Hatch Wants to kill your PC

[bogi]

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/auto/epaper/editions/today/business_e30fd0be00efd1f4009e.html


Why do people elect these idiots? I got an idea for hatch how about we install this same idea on drivers that speed. Then we will see what happens. :(

[firephoto]

Not that it could be possibly related in anyway, but his son is one of the lawyers in the SCO vs. UNIX world.

People elect these people because they're the ones that corprate america gives them enough money to make them seem great to us in the papers and TV. :( They don't work for us, or the U.S., they work for some suits in the business world. It's all about "show me the money". :(

[RichW]

Senator Hatch is an enigma to me. For years he preached the need for a balanced budget but then supported the spending of two presidents who ran up deficits faster than anyone in history. He is supposedly for intellectual property rights (as in this scenario) but railed against Microsoft - primarily because Novel and the former Word Perfect Corporation were Utah companies. His stand in this case, I believe, is due to the campaign contributions he gets from media companies as chairman of the Senate committee responsible for copyright legislation.

As it relates to DBS, he was probably the most influential person to water down the SHVIA from McCain's initial Senate bill.

[John Corn]

Does anyone see a problem with going after the end user instead of going after the people that make this sharing software like Kazaa and Napster? If you want to dole out consequencs, fine, but wouldn't it be easier to go after the few sources than to go after the millions of end users?

[Lyle_JP]

John,

It's quite easy for those who write P2P software to shield themselves from prosecution. They can simply argue (rightly) that P2P networking has many beneficial and legal uses, and that they cannot be held responsible by those who use their software to engage in illegal activity.

It would be like suing Microsoft because someone used Word to write you death threats, or if they used Outlook to solicit sex from a minor via email.

[John Corn]

Good point Lyle, I didn't think about it that way. :shrug:

[Jacob S]

Or one could say that someone hacked your computer too or used your IP address if that is possible. I just seen this on CNN Headline News and its a bunch of bull to destroy computers like that.

[bogi]

I dont think he knows what he is doing. Almost everybody who has broadband uses p2p these days. Imagine the voter backlash when they find out that Sen,Hatch sponsored the RIAA in killing the end users computer. The only reason people vote for hatch is because he is a mormon.

[Jacob S]

They say 1 in 2 in the U.S. that have a computer download free music or software, thats around 45 million people.

[RichW]

Well I just found something that even makes P2P obsolete. There is a plugin called "streamripper" which records Internet radio streams into MP3 files. So now you can tune to your favorite winamp radio sites and record streams as high quality MP3. I am recording smoothjazz.com as I type this.

Stream ripper even parses out the songs in separate files. I don't know how the RIAA is going to stop this. Since these Internet radio sites are properly licensed for copyrighted material, stream ripper is equivalent to taping a song off an FM radio station, except that the recording is CD quality (depending upon the site). You need a broadband connection for this, but most folks involved in DLing music already have one.

[Steve Mehs]

You can do almost the samething any program that can record directly off the sound card, depending on the program it can detect stops in the audio and record it as a seperate file, most of the time they'll be wav files though. I used Roxio SoundStream to record an hour or two of the DBSTalk Holiday station during christmas time and ripped them into MP3s that are on a CD somewhere around here.

[RichW]

The great thing about streamripper is that it takes the shoutcast information as to title, artist, genre, etc and puts them into the appropriate MP3 track tags. Neat piece of programming.

[Rick_EE]

http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html

Looks like the senator is living in a glass house.

[RichW]

While I'm sure the Senator didn't violate the copyrights on purpose, it does show how pervasive the copyright legislation is - legislation that he helped draft.

More importantly, what he states is that when people cannot get satisfaction within the law, its OK to vandalize the property of those who are wronging you. Shame on Hatch - who, because of his committee position, should be supporting judicial procedure, not extolling ways of vigilante justice!

[Mark Holtz]

Two wrongs do not make a right in this case. The question is how long between the time the legislation goes into effect and a trial balloon goes up seeking the legality of the law.

[dtcarson]

Unfortunately, even though I think Lyle's point above is a valid one, and P2p is just a tool, to be used for right or wrong; that line of thinking has not stopped the 'legal' system. A gun is a tool also, and can either help feed and protect your family, or destroy a family. A gun doesn't do anything until a person pulls the trigger; P2P doesn't transfer anything until a person says 'Share these files.' You can't put anything past many lawyers these days. [Apologies in advance to any decent, justice-seeking lawyers who may read this; I'm an optimist, I know there has to be at least one out there ;0 ]

[Jacob S]

Is there software that allows you to pause and rewind just as you can with satellite tv where if there was a song that you decide you want to record you can rewind back to the beginning then stop the recording at the end of the song by editing?