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When I got my 23, I expected it to act as a 21-700, and it did. Since the day I got it, the response to the remote has gotten worse and worse. I've tried different remotes, changed batteries, had a long talk with the 23 and nothing has helped. It seems to be getting worse. I have the 23 hooked up so that I can use it in two rooms, one above the other, and, of course, the remote is in the RF mode.
It just keeps getting worse. I've tried everything I can think of and there's really not much I can do. When I'm in the same room, the 23 acts as if it is in the IR mode. I cannot lay in bed and get it to sense the remote unless I have a direct line of sight and even then, it doesn't work as do all the other HRs I have in the RF mode.
Anybody got any thoughts? I'm tapped out.
Rich
I had issues like this until I found I should disable the (I think it's called) "light sensor" from my Sony Bravia TV - whatever it does it senses the light in the room and adjusts the TV accordingly. Since I disabled this feature my remote has been fine.
I had issues like this until I found I should disable the (I think it's called) "light sensor" from my Sony Bravia TV - whatever it does it senses the light in the room and adjusts the TV accordingly. Since I disabled this feature my remote has been fine.
All I've got are Panny plasmas and they don't affect the other HRs. Last night I was watching an episode of Dexter and when I tried to delete it, the HR couldn't recognize the signal, I could tell by the Power light not blinking when I pressed the remote buttons.
Yesterday, I reset all the remote functions and put two new 64R remotes on the 23, one for each room and it made no difference. I think I've got a bad sensor on the 23. Just my luck.
Rich
Last night the 23 wouldn't power up using the remote. The TV came on and I had to use the PWR button to turn the 23 on. Then I shut both off and hit the D*+Power button and both came on.
It's gotta be a bad sensor. I don't know what else would cause these problems. Can't be the remotes, I've tried too many.
Rich
Have you tried using your HR23 in the IR mode? This won't resolve your issue, since it appears you need RF to control it from another room. At least you can determine if it is the RF or maybe something else.
Canis Lupus
07-17-09, 02:01 PM
Any other devices in that room that could cause RF interference?
Getteau
07-17-09, 02:13 PM
I had an R15 that had similar IR issues. If I was right in front of it, the remote would work. If I got anywhere past about 45 degrees on the left or right sides, it wouldn't read. I ended up taking the front cover off and bent the IR sensor a little farther forward. That helped a little, but the sensor on that R15 never did have the wide range of sensitivity as my other receivers. In the end, I turned that one in when I upgraded to an HR21.
I had an R15 that had similar IR issues. Rich584 stated that the remote is in the RF mode, but is acting like its in IR mode. That's what is strange about it.
Have you tried using your HR23 in the IR mode? This won't resolve your issue, since it appears you need RF to control it from another room. At least you can determine if it is the RF or maybe something else.
Been thinking about it. I had it in IR a day or so ago, when I put the two new 64R remotes on it. Seemed to work all right for the short time it took to program the one remote. Been thinking that I might move it to another room and bring the 21-700 that's in that room in to replace it. In the room it would be in, there is a straight line of sight to the HR and I could use it in IR. First I gotta take it out of RF. Maybe I'll try it on the Yankees game tonight.
It's really strange how you wrote your post about the same time I decided that nobody was gonna come up with a solution so I wouldn't have to move two HRs and had decided to move the 23 if it works in IR. Convergence.
Rich
Rich584 stated that the remote is in the RF mode, but is acting like its in IR mode. That's what is strange about it.
It's more than that. Last night, I hit the power button that should have turned on the TV and the 23, and only the TV came on. Hit it again and nothing happened. Hit the PWR button and the 23 came on. New remote, new batteries. No reason for that to happen.
I'll try it in IR tonight. That means I have to bring up a stack of books to get the sensor up high enough to pick up the signal. Oh well.
Rich
Monty23
07-17-09, 02:44 PM
It's more than that. Last night, I hit the power button that should have turned on the TV and the 23, and only the TV came on. Hit it again and nothing happened. Hit the PWR button and the 23 came on. New remote, new batteries. No reason for that to happen.
I'll try it in IR tonight. That means I have to bring up a stack of books to get the sensor up high enough to pick up the signal. Oh well.
Rich
A month ago I did a direct replacement of an HR20-700 with an HR23-700. Same spot, same cables, same RF remote, same everything. Since then you almost have to point the remote directly at the HR23. I could operate the HR20 from the next room.
Any other devices in that room that could cause RF interference?
No. Good thought tho. What would cause interference? Nothing in that room, no. The 22 that I had in the same place, on the same wires, got it's RF signal with no problem.
Rich
Monty23
07-17-09, 02:58 PM
I think the HR23 is just not as sensitive with RF as some other DVR's. Probably a silly question... but did you try new batteries ?? :) RF is more sensitive to low batteries than IR is.
A month ago I did a direct replacement of an HR20-700 with an HR23-700. Same spot, same cables, same RF remote, same everything. Since then you almost have to point the remote directly at the HR23. I could operate the HR20 from the next room.
Nuts! Don't tell me it's gonna be a common problem with the 23s. Damn. I waited so long to get one and now...
Have you tried the IR? I hope that, at least, works. Sometimes I press a button and watch the power button on the front panel and it doesn't blink. What is that? I'm aiming right at it from about 6', clear line of sight and it doesn't read it.
Rich
I think the HR23 is just not as sensitive with RF as some other DVR's. Probably a silly question... but did you try new batteries ?? :) RF is more sensitive to low batteries than IR is.
Brand new Duracells. Good in the box until 2015.
Rich
Monty23
07-17-09, 03:05 PM
Nuts! Don't tell me it's gonna be a common problem with the 23s. Damn. I waited so long to get one and now...
Have you tried the IR? I hope that, at least, works. Sometimes I press a button and watch the power button on the front panel and it doesn't blink. What is that? I'm aiming right at it from about 6', clear line of sight and it doesn't read it.
Rich
I haven't tried the IR because I have a HR20 directly above the HR23 that is on IR.
It's more than that. Last night, I hit the power button that should have turned on the TV and the 23, and only the TV came on. Hit it again and nothing happened. Hit the PWR button and the 23 came on. New remote, new batteries. No reason for that to happen.There is no explanation for that, but my HR22 has done the same thing on occasion.
I haven't tried the IR because I have a HR20 directly above the HR23 that is on IR.
You might try putting the 20 on RF and the 23 on IR. My four 20-700s work quite well in the same room on RF.
There is no explanation for that, but my HR22 has done the same thing on occasion.
I tried the IR mode last night and it acted as if it was in the RF mode. I could point the remote in any direction and the sensor picked up a signal.
Solves my problem. Now all I have to do is find my spare remote expander and hook it up in both rooms and I should be all right.
What I find really hard to believe is the way the IR mode worked. I haven't tried it in years and it's hard to believe how well it worked. No matter where I pointed the remote, the 23 picked up the signal.
I've found this whole experience rather eerie.
Aside from the weirdness, I do hope the mods will let this thread continue. I'd like to see how many other folks are having problems with their 23s in the RF mode.
Thanx,
Rich
Monty23
07-18-09, 09:12 AM
You might try putting the 20 on RF and the 23 on IR. My four 20-700s work quite well in the same room on RF.
Isn't there just one channel for RF ?? I didn't think you can control two units with RF in the same room.
Isn't there just one channel for RF ?? I didn't think you can control two units with RF in the same room.
No, they are set to the RID# of the HRs and the remotes have no effect on each other. You could have ten HRs on RF in the same room and have no problems.
Rich
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