Power Mac G5 (yes gee five)

[firephoto]

Well all the rumors are true. Look for yourselves.
http://www.apple.com/powermac/

Looks to be an impressive machine and it's goes on sale in August. I might have to take a serious look at getting one of these. :)

[marko]

It does look like a nice machine. The higher end dual 2.0 machine seems to be priced better than the other 2 they had on the online store page. The 2.0 should ship with a default of 1 gig memory though.

I've often thought of getting a Mac, but never have because of price. Maybe when the newer processor makes its way on down the line into lower priced machine, I might consider it.

[ibglowin]

Did you see the new iChat and iSight software/hardware?

My dad who lives in San Antonio and I have been looking for awhile for a webcam but the quality of the cameras seemed to be really subpar. Now with iChat I can use my expensive DV camcorder instead!!!

Way cool Apple!

[gcutler]

It does look like a nice machine. The higher end dual 2.0 machine seems to be priced better than the other 2 they had on the online store page. The 2.0 should ship with a default of 1 gig memory though.

I've often thought of getting a Mac, but never have because of price. Maybe when the newer processor makes its way on down the line into lower priced machine, I might consider it.

I had a PowerPC based Mac a while ago and did enjoy using it. But at that point all the SW I needed to use (by contract had to use specific Brand/Version of SW) stopped getting upraded or released so ended up going back to the PC world. Make sure the SW you need is out on the MAC (and as functional)

[DenR]

Apple certainly needs this. Their market share is down to 2% and it looks like linux will overtake them in second place on the desktop next year.

[Jacob S]

I heard where Pentium 4 released the 3.2 GHZ processor. It would probably not be long for Pentium to come out with 4 GHZ to match the dual 2 GHZ processors Apple has and would pressure them to do so more quickly.

I am still waiting until they can multiply the processing power by 10 like I heard was going to happen when they start using carbon or other technology in a few years.

[gcutler]

I heard where Pentium 4 released the 3.2 GHZ processor. It would probably not be long for Pentium to come out with 4 GHZ to match the dual 2 GHZ processors Apple has and would pressure them to do so more quickly.

I am still waiting until they can multiply the processing power by 10 like I heard was going to happen when they start using carbon or other technology in a few years.

Now that the Pentium 4, 2.8GHz+ has the 800MHz front end, that should help a little.

[James_F]

Insider info from Intel says that don't get too used to the G5... ;)

[Mike123abc]

Tomshardware.com had an article on the future Intel processors yesterday. Essentially they said that Intel has not released the P5 because they had not competition at the high end processor area. AMD claims 3200+ but benchmarks like a P4 2.8. So, Intel is milking the P4 all they can.

[firephoto]

I'm sure most that will be buying a G5 won't be doing it because it's the "fastest" but more likely because it will work and be easier to use. What OS is intel going to cozy up with for their latest and greatest in the coming months years? I don't think a lot of people will be to thrilled about having a computer that won't let them do what they want to do with it (DRM) so Intel/MS on the desktop might be facing a bumpy road in the future.

A top of the line Intel box is about the same price that's been set for the G5 and depending on what they are doing the performance is similar and it sound like IBM will be making faster chips soon so I would guess there's going to be some good competition coming soon. You can't go by the benchmarks becasue they are optimized for the platform that comes out on top, but you can go by real world tests. It will be interesting to see some encoding times for video and some large (500mb?) image editing done on the G5 to see how it really does (while you're watching a dvd or something on the second monitor of course).

Apple has a good thing going and they seem to be heading in the right direction and have a great product for those who can afford it. For those who can't afford it there's another flavor of *nix out there waiting to have your name on it, and for those who don't know what *nix is you better go see if there's a security update today from microsoft.

[gcutler]

Apple has a good thing going and they seem to be heading in the right direction and have a great product for those who can afford it. For those who can't afford it there's another flavor of *nix out there waiting to have your name on it, and for those who don't know what *nix is you better go see if there's a security update today from microsoft.

Wait a minute, lets be real here. I've subscribed to Redhat's Network for being informed of security updates and patches and such and there are plenty of security holes/fixes in *nix as to make *nix not so much more special than Microsoft's offerings. To imply that *nix is not full of holes and in need of constant updates is just plain misleading. Any OS that is being probed by hackers will eventually be exposed with a hole.

Part of the issue is that the hackers hate MS, MS had the majority of machines, so when there is a security hole taken advantage of, it makes big news and also affects more people. If *nix was the leading OS, it would make the big news with it's security patches were released or holes were found. Maybe it is Negligence by MS programmers, and only human error with *nix programmers, but neither is hack proof wihout constant patching.

Here is a list of sites with lists of security holes and patches, not just Redhat.
http://www.openwall.com/linux/

http://www.suse.de/de/security/
SUSE listing just for 2003
16.06.2003 radiusd-cistron: possible remote system compromise
06.06.2003 pptpd: remote code execution
06.06.2003 cups: remote Denial of Service
27.05.2003 glibc: remote system compromise
24.04.2003 KDE: various security vulnerabilities
08.04.2003 samba: remote root access
04.04.2003 openssl: remote private-key retrieval
01.04.2003 sendmail: local/remote privilege escalation
26.03.2003 apcupsd: remote system compromise
25.03.2003 kernel: local privilege escalation (ptrace/modprobe bug)
24.03.2003 mutt: remote system compromise
21.03.2003 file: remote system compromise
21.03.2003 ethereal: local privilege escalation
21.03.2003 qpopper: remote system compromise
19.03.2003 samba: remote command execution
13.03.2003 tcpdump: remote system compromise
13.03.2003 lprold: local privilege escalation
04.03.2003 sendmail, sendmail-tls: local privilege escalation
27.02.2003 hypermail: remote system compromise
26.02.2003 openssl: remote attack on encryption
26.02.2003 libmcrypt: local privilege escalation, remote denial-of-service
18.02.2003 mod_php4: remote system compromise
18.02.2003 imp: remote system compromise
22.01.2003 cvs: remote system compromise
20.01.2003 dhcp: remote system compromise
20.01.2003 susehelp: remote command execution
14.01.2003 libpng: possible remote compromise
02.01.2003 mysql: remote command execution
02.01.2003 cups: local and remote privilege escalation
02.01.2003 fetchmail: remote compromise

[James_F]

gcutler, has microsoft gotten to you? I though you were a good little Lotus Notes fan... :p

[gcutler]

gcutler, has microsoft gotten to you? I though you were a good little Lotus Notes fan... :p

James_F, yes Lotus Notes is closest to my heart, but I also work with MS Exchange (as a close second). And I am in the beginning of my Server 2003 (and Exchange 2003) self study to get a jump on a MCSE-2003. So as you can see I'm swaying to the dark side again :D

[James_F]

LOL, I'm working on migrating our Exchange from 5.5 to 2003. I love the web client on 2003. :D

[gcutler]

LOL, I'm working on migrating our Exchange from 5.5 to 2003. I love the web client on 2003. :D

But will it run on Opera and Mozilla??? "Zac" has spoken to your CIO and that is now a requirement ;)

[James_F]

LOL, I could care less. I do think it works with Mozilla, but I'll add some code so I won't work with Opera. I don't let anyone install either of those browsers anyway. I have software that looks at what people have installed. If I catch any of them with it they are in trouble. I don't want people installing crap on my computers.